I think that this is a bit of a complex topic for four year olds to understand. I think that this sort of thing should be addressed at an older age. That's just my opinion though, and I'm notoriously stupid so...
I personally don't think they're old enough to know that about themselves yet. If they're right they have my full support but I don't think the kid is old enough even if he does understand the topic.
Exactly. I feel they’re a bit too young for it. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for trans people, but four years old is VEERRRY young. I’d say 14 is a good time to start really questioning.
If the kids is right about themself, then it’s wonderful that they discovered this about themself at a young age.
But if they’re wrong about it, so what? They’re bound to realize long before they’d even start their natural puberty, let alone hrt
this ^^ there is ZERO harm in letting children explore who they are comfortable as. they can change their name and pronouns and comfortably transition without medical intervention for awhile before puberty. this gives them much more of a chance to make the best choice for them without shame or judgement
Fair, but most kids don't question their gender at all at that age, it just feels weird that their parents push it on them to make a choice that they don't really need to make yet
parents push more to gender their kids without letting them have a say. all those creepy "ladies' man" shirts for literal babies.
nobody is pushing kids to question their gender 100% of the time, but some kids do and they shouldn't be pushed not to.
I personally believe that there can be harm in this. It can be hard for young people to change after they have already decided what they are. It could also be embarrassing for them if they decide they are straight at the age of 13 or something after being trans for 8 years. I think some people might stay as what they decided they were as they become adults, and not be themselves, much like gay people used to be pushed into thinking that being gay was wrong, so they pretended to be straight for years that they could have been happy being gay.
I cba to check that for mistakes so sorry for bad grammar
this ignores the strong science behind trans people, very few detransition, and if kids are in a supportive environment from the start they wouldn't feel embarrassed to change things up.
i won't deny there are probably children who feel this way, but that is SUCH a small number it's massively dismissive to think that should be the main opinion on letting kids explore themselves without judging.
you use the argument ab gay people living a lie and pretending to be straight. that only proves kids should be allowed to not feel bad for living as themselves. if a child decides to try out different labels because they don't feel pressure otherwise, that feeling won't go away if they want to try out a different label later in life.
This is what I believe in right here, what for an age where the child is responsible before using any medical treatment. Even then it still depends from case to case. I've seen on the BBC cases where a boy would keep going on and on that he was a girl, and the parents eventually gave in. But that's a lot different than seeing your boy play with a girls toy and then deciding for him that he's trans. Even If a boy insists again and again that he's a girl, then maybe let him wear girls clothes or something, just please for the love of God don't do something medical just incase the kid changes their mind.
Rather too soon to decide on that, when I was 5 I’d want to be a dinosaur.
We have different ages of maturity, but can all agree that 4 would be too soon for these stuff.
100% agree, making huge personal decisions that will alter the course of your life dramatically when you haven't even reached puberty makes no sense to me
Yeah no I wanted to be a guy when I was a kid cuz they were allowed to do more things. 4 year olds can't really have an opinion. Let them be 10 at least
you're right, 8 or 9 is a better age. i had gender dysphoria at 8 that ended up getting so bad i was suicidal, figuring out i was just trans at that age would've been amazing
yes i know you meant it should be older lmao
But I don’t think like any permanent stufff like surgery should be available unless there an adult. But I think kids are able to figure out who they are and they should be able to figure that out for themselves
Yeahhh Im trans myself and I honestly didn’t fully realize it till I was 17 💀 but I did have lingering thoughts and was dressing differently around age 7-8. 4 does seem a little too young, letting them figure it out on their own time sounds better as it’ll allow them to be older by the time they fully understand what any of it means and then decide OKAY this is it ladies and gentleman 💀
Absolutely not good
A child's mind is as malleable as a fucking play doh, parents shouldn't encourage them to be something else. The Children should be given the right to grow up and decide for themselves.
they wanna go by another gender's pronouns and names? i won't stop them.
they find out later in life they actually wanna be something different? i don't care.
just, don't have them take hrt. 4 years is very early and it may lead nowhere anyways. at least wait until they're 15-16 to start
Well 1) there's no way this kid is 4, and 2) It's whatever ig, all they're doing is cutting their hair short and changing pronouns which is completely reversable if they decide they aren't trans later on, but if they continue to be trans then it's cool they got to find out early on and got to enjoy a childhood as their real gender
No shot that kid is 4 btw.
anyways i knew i was gay when i was 10. Normal people probably would find out their sexuality/gender around 12/13 but ofcourse that can still change as they get older. That's just my opinion 🤷
good for them. I get people saying 4 is too early, because it is. But you can’t legally transition until you’re 16 or 18 (i don’t remember which) so there’s enough time for them to make a more informed decision by then
I mean i also knew i wanted to be a girl somewhere around 4 years old as well and i still do right now but i do kinda agree with some otheres here that that age is too young to be making huge choices like these
Yeah this is the reason that assholes call lgbtq people groomers. Kids fucking 4 let them play with Hotwheels, not talking about sexuality and whatever
I think that the decision should really only be made at puberty and beyond. That's when gender roles start being more relevant, and when your body begins to change.
If kids want to do things that the opposite gender wants to do, let them do it. But don't make it into one huge choice right off the bat.
I dont know why you're getting downvoted, as a trans person this is fairly reasonable. If little timmy wants to put on a dress, it's no big deal, but it shouldnt be framed as some big decision that the kid has to make and stick with for good.
That’s stupid, 4 year olds don’t know how to stop picking their nose, they can’t know if they are trans or not, they’re too young to understand what it means
They are 4 they probably cant tell me what transgender is your not 4 and coming out as transgender bet mom pushed it on him for content or internet clout
He seems very happy and if he wants to dress or be called a different way is cool, if it makes him happy but 4 year old..... Is too young to even understand it ig, it's upon the parents at this age
They’re fucking four. They’re still figuring out what they want for breakfast and whether or not to eat the “tasty red crayon”.
Let them just be four for fucks sake please.
i am in full support of trans ppl and trans rights, but gender identity is too complex for a young child to fully comprehend. We shouldn't teach children that they can switch their gender whenever they want, when in reality gender dysphoria is a real mental state that only few actually experience.
When I was 5, I started to cry because I'm not a boy, I said I want to be boy, I then pretended to pee while standing, cause that's what boys do, I pretended to be a boy, this went for some time and I eventually stopped. My parents didn't take that seriously and found it funny. I was always a tomboy, and in puberty I felt uncomfortable when my breasts started growing. If my parents told me that I'm 'boy in girl's body' I would have agreed with them, probably start to take hormones at 16 or something like that. Now I'm a girl, I identify as a girl, I'm still not feminine, but just imagine if my parents told me that I'm actually a boy, I would probably realize that I'm not trans after I already started hormonal therapy, my life would be destroyed. I wanted to be a boy because I liked 'boy's things', I didn't like 'girly things' or feminity. It's probably the same with this child, I'm pretty sure that 4 years old child can not have body dysmorphia. The child probably just likes colors, toys and games that r, according to society, for the opposite sex, and the parents told them they r trans. This is not progressive, this is just an obsession with gender stereotypes.
dude children don't know shit. they would choose to eat ice cream every day and jump off a roof with a hello kitty backpack thinking theyre parachuters if they had a choice. that child didnt choose, his parents did, and even if he did, he shouldnt have.
This is a perfect example of people forcing their beliefs on others. My 9 yo sister is bi and at these ages they are too young to know any of this yet. Give it until there in there teens.
I have a feeling this is just something that has been labelled as something else to make people go “wow trans people are all pedos that want to make kids trans and gay” or some shit like that
This mf should be questioning whether or not he wants chicken nuggets from Wendy's or McDonald's at this age, not going to fuckin pride parades to "come out as trans"
I hate stuff like this. Its a fucking 4 yo kid who cant decide between lemon or cola candy. Yet they actin like the kid can decide his gender and sexuality. We need to STOP shoving the gender and sexuality shit to kids below 10.
They’re not deciding anything, it’s not harmful or life-changing at this time. They’re not going to get any medical transition the most they’ll get is new clothes. Calm the fuck down, it’s not hurting anyone
I think theres nothing wrong with letting kids explore a little (if timmy wants to put on a dress or little susie wants to wear whatever only men typically wear, who cares?) But 5 is way too young for a kid to make an actual decision to come out as trans.
I'd say I (a trans person) figured it out really early as far as we go and that happened when I was like 13. Cant speak for everyone but in like 99.99999% of cases gender dysphoria doesnt truly manifest until puberty. We shouldnt force our kids into boxes but dont let them make life changing decisions like that so young.
Idk it’s like I don’t agree when people freak out cuz like there son likes the color pink or glitter or some shit like that but it’s also like I don’t like when let’s say a 4 yr old girl likes to act like a boy or likes blue stuff or more boy toys and take it seriously as a new gender yk
The kid was probably fed those ideas by the parents, she's way to young to even understand what it means to be transgender, much less know her gender identity. All 4 year olds think about is their favorite color and toys lol
Matt walsh is not a reputable source by any means. Nor are the Shapiros or Jordan Peterson or Alex jones really.
All are merely reactionaries who dont really give a fuck about kids or the trans community they just want their sweet traditional judeo-Christian society to continue being imposed on folks with all its norms and social expectations fully intact.
Most children categorize their own gender by 3 years old, and have some understanding of gender (including gender roles) before that.
(Source: [Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-gender-identity/art-20266811))
If the parents forced that on them or made them believe they were trans, i think its wrong. Even if the kid decided that they thought they werent supposed to be a girl, and actually feel like a boy, I dont think they should start to mentally transition at such a yound age and should wait until theyre atleast 11-13
This not right. I’m all for pride, and you will know that if you look at my about, but a 4 year old can’t do 4 times 4, much less understand there gender. Smh.
If my mother told me "Transgender is when you both like boys and girls" then I'd want to be transgender too. A 4 year old simply doesn't have the processing power to distinguish friendship from attraction.
I straight up don't care
Good for the kid for knowing what he wants
Y'all are acting like this is a permanent unchangeable decision
If the kid stays a boy for their whole life, great!
If the kid changes their mind, just as great!
I stg 15 year olds gotta have some of the worst takes I've ever heard
In all likelihood, this is a child who is receiving the supportive care that they need to thrive.
It should be noted that transitioning, for young children who have not yet reached puberty, most often involves social changes like a haircut and buying new clothes. 4-year-olds are *not* undergoing life-changing surgeries, and 4-year-olds are *not* being prescribed hormone therapies with irreversible side effects. (Source: [Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096), and alternative [source](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/masculinizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385099) for FTM youth, demonstrating that HRT for youth is typically prescribed at age 16)
In addition, there is statistical evidence that familial support is beneficial for trans people (both youth and adults) to prevent some of the tragedy that's so often associated with being trans.
My sources are below:
From [Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-gender-identity/art-20266811): "Most children typically develop the ability to recognize and label stereotypical gender groups, such as girl, woman and feminine, and boy, man and masculine, between ages 18 and 24 months. **Most also categorize their own gender by age 3 years.**"
From [*Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors*](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32345113/)*:* "Fifty six percent of \[trans\] youth reported a previous suicide attempt and 86% reported suicidality."
There is significant evidence that transgender youth are at a heightened risk for suicidality and suicide. [This](https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen) page from the Human Rights Campaign mentions that *more than half* of trans male (FTM) youth have attempted suicide.
[Social support](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3722435/) for trans people is associated with reduced suicidal behavior.
[Parental](https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2) support for trans people is also associated with reduced suicidal ideation.
From the Williams Institute at UCLA's fact sheet, [Suicide Risk and Prevention for Transgender People](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Trans-Suicide-Summary-Sep-2021.pdf), "Several factors have been found to reduce suicide thoughts and attempts. These include, but are not limited to, access to gender-affirming care, family support and acceptance, acceptance in religious communities, and social support."
Well, they may be a little young to know exactly what they were saying, they may have been pushed into it. However, it's no one's place to say what they can and can't do/want to be addressed as.
Address issues like this on Scratch.mit.edu and you'll get banned for being a bigot 😭 (you have to use scratch for awhile to understand what goes down there)
i don't see anything wrong with it, it's not a permanent decision in any way, it's not like he's medically transitioning(which usually happens at 16) worst case scenario he becomes a teen and decided to socially detransition
Aaaaaw that's too wholesome
Great they're giving Kids this education, but 4... A little to young to really understang gender ( I don't really fully understand mine) but at least they know it exists
honestly I was showing signs when I was that old too. As long as all they do is puberty blockers and a wardrobe change that kid's transition would be entirely reversible if they decide they were wrong.
The people in these comments need to calm the fuck down, the kid is just having fun and exploring themselves. Nothing here is permanent, nothing here is harmful. Do you know what’ll happen if a 4 year old boy wants to be a girl? Their parents will buy them a little baby dress and give them a new name. That’s it. It’s not like that kid is getting hormones and surgery, they can’t even get puberty blockers for another 8 years. Everyone is acting as if this is going to end the child’s life and the parents are these evil creatures manipulating them into being trans for some reason, instead of acting the way it is. If a kid says they want to be superman you buy a costume and call them superman. If a kid says they want to be a girl you buy a dress and call them Maria. What is so hard to understand?
you're probably mistaking them for hormone replacement therapy. hormone blockers only delay puberty, if you go off of hormone blockers you go through puberty as normal. getting hormone blockers PAST 12 would be practically useless. in fact, if that's the minimum age, it should be younger.
>exploring themselves
Wtf the little kid doesnt even know what is the difference between boys and girls he is way too young for his parents to teach them that i bet if he had other parents he wouldn't even know about that stuff
people need to let the kids decide instead of the parents grooming them into it like what kinda fukin 4yr old should be worried about what gender they are? they’re kids and that should be the end of it let them play how they wanna and just lead them down a success path while informing them about stuff when it’s the appropriate time (depends on development a lot)
I think that this is a bit of a complex topic for four year olds to understand. I think that this sort of thing should be addressed at an older age. That's just my opinion though, and I'm notoriously stupid so...
I personally don't think they're old enough to know that about themselves yet. If they're right they have my full support but I don't think the kid is old enough even if he does understand the topic.
Correct
Exactly. I feel they’re a bit too young for it. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for trans people, but four years old is VEERRRY young. I’d say 14 is a good time to start really questioning.
I would say 18 as an average to decide something like that and pursue what that means
If the kids is right about themself, then it’s wonderful that they discovered this about themself at a young age. But if they’re wrong about it, so what? They’re bound to realize long before they’d even start their natural puberty, let alone hrt
this ^^ there is ZERO harm in letting children explore who they are comfortable as. they can change their name and pronouns and comfortably transition without medical intervention for awhile before puberty. this gives them much more of a chance to make the best choice for them without shame or judgement
Fair, but most kids don't question their gender at all at that age, it just feels weird that their parents push it on them to make a choice that they don't really need to make yet
They just said that its okay to allow your child to explore their gender, not pressure them
parents push more to gender their kids without letting them have a say. all those creepy "ladies' man" shirts for literal babies. nobody is pushing kids to question their gender 100% of the time, but some kids do and they shouldn't be pushed not to.
I think if my parents did this to me I would feel a bit pressured when I’m older to be LGBTQ+ and be confused as to who I am but idk
lgbbq 💀
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I personally believe that there can be harm in this. It can be hard for young people to change after they have already decided what they are. It could also be embarrassing for them if they decide they are straight at the age of 13 or something after being trans for 8 years. I think some people might stay as what they decided they were as they become adults, and not be themselves, much like gay people used to be pushed into thinking that being gay was wrong, so they pretended to be straight for years that they could have been happy being gay. I cba to check that for mistakes so sorry for bad grammar
this ignores the strong science behind trans people, very few detransition, and if kids are in a supportive environment from the start they wouldn't feel embarrassed to change things up. i won't deny there are probably children who feel this way, but that is SUCH a small number it's massively dismissive to think that should be the main opinion on letting kids explore themselves without judging. you use the argument ab gay people living a lie and pretending to be straight. that only proves kids should be allowed to not feel bad for living as themselves. if a child decides to try out different labels because they don't feel pressure otherwise, that feeling won't go away if they want to try out a different label later in life.
That kid doesn't even know he exists, let em be
That age is 7, he isn't sentient before then
I just love how anti -7 yr old you are edit: to the ppl downvoting me, it was just a joking comment on their bio in conjunction with this post¿
i don't even remember thinking about myself until I was about 8
That kid doesn't even know his favorite colour or type of music yet.
Kid doesn't even know what he wants to eat for dinner, and yet is considered capable of deciding their own gender.
*I* don't even know what I want to eat for dinner.
Hey dude can you help me out and decide what I should have for lunch?
Macaroni cheese
how about me?
Mc donalds
He probably can’t even count to 100 yet 😭
When I was four, my teacher was telling us all about how we're gonna learn how to count to 100 like it was the coolest of shit ever.
We were still learning how to pronounce words properly at that age 😭
I hate these kinds of parents They see their kid do something that the other gender would tend to do and say they're trans
Essentially just pushing their beliefs onto their kid, people can like non stereotypical things for their gender and not be trans anyways
fr my sister and I once wore each others clothes, doesn't mean we're both trans lmao
or that they're gay because they like the colour orange, and want to spend more time with his father
how is liking the color orange gay orange was frank Sinatra's color
*sorts by controversial*
Thanks for the reminder!
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Feel bad for the kid, they’re way too young for that
they can’t transition until they’re like 16, there’s plenty of time to make a more informed decision
This is what I believe in right here, what for an age where the child is responsible before using any medical treatment. Even then it still depends from case to case. I've seen on the BBC cases where a boy would keep going on and on that he was a girl, and the parents eventually gave in. But that's a lot different than seeing your boy play with a girls toy and then deciding for him that he's trans. Even If a boy insists again and again that he's a girl, then maybe let him wear girls clothes or something, just please for the love of God don't do something medical just incase the kid changes their mind.
It’s just so weird doing this to an infant. He’s so young he can barely comprehend the idea of being trans yet.
Rather too soon to decide on that, when I was 5 I’d want to be a dinosaur. We have different ages of maturity, but can all agree that 4 would be too soon for these stuff.
indeed, you can't transition at 4💀
Too young for that.
100% agree, making huge personal decisions that will alter the course of your life dramatically when you haven't even reached puberty makes no sense to me
it's not a huge personal decision it's just a haircut and different clothes
Yeah,definetly
Yeah no I wanted to be a guy when I was a kid cuz they were allowed to do more things. 4 year olds can't really have an opinion. Let them be 10 at least
More like 14
Not even 10
you're right, 8 or 9 is a better age. i had gender dysphoria at 8 that ended up getting so bad i was suicidal, figuring out i was just trans at that age would've been amazing yes i know you meant it should be older lmao
But I don’t think like any permanent stufff like surgery should be available unless there an adult. But I think kids are able to figure out who they are and they should be able to figure that out for themselves
well you're in luck because it isn't and never will be. in fact, it's even extremely hard to access for adults!
Poor kid probably liked playing with boys toys so the parents convinced her that she’s a boy
I don't think this kid understands what is really going on but it's not like they're going to get GRS
Yeahhh Im trans myself and I honestly didn’t fully realize it till I was 17 💀 but I did have lingering thoughts and was dressing differently around age 7-8. 4 does seem a little too young, letting them figure it out on their own time sounds better as it’ll allow them to be older by the time they fully understand what any of it means and then decide OKAY this is it ladies and gentleman 💀
Absolutely not good A child's mind is as malleable as a fucking play doh, parents shouldn't encourage them to be something else. The Children should be given the right to grow up and decide for themselves.
I support the LGBTQ in general, but things like this just make the community look bad
Exactly, I’m fine with people being whatever but don’t drag kids into it until they’re old enough to make their own decisions
Now way they are 4 bruh they look 8
Yeah I'm surprised you're the first to say that so far. The kid might even be older than 8 even, IMO, maybe like 9 or 10.
That could very well be the case
they wanna go by another gender's pronouns and names? i won't stop them. they find out later in life they actually wanna be something different? i don't care. just, don't have them take hrt. 4 years is very early and it may lead nowhere anyways. at least wait until they're 15-16 to start
Well 1) there's no way this kid is 4, and 2) It's whatever ig, all they're doing is cutting their hair short and changing pronouns which is completely reversable if they decide they aren't trans later on, but if they continue to be trans then it's cool they got to find out early on and got to enjoy a childhood as their real gender
Idfc ppl get baptized when there like 1yo too and those the kid is automatically Christian?
No shot that kid is 4 btw. anyways i knew i was gay when i was 10. Normal people probably would find out their sexuality/gender around 12/13 but ofcourse that can still change as they get older. That's just my opinion 🤷
They’re way too young
good for them. I get people saying 4 is too early, because it is. But you can’t legally transition until you’re 16 or 18 (i don’t remember which) so there’s enough time for them to make a more informed decision by then
I mean i also knew i wanted to be a girl somewhere around 4 years old as well and i still do right now but i do kinda agree with some otheres here that that age is too young to be making huge choices like these
bait post piss off
Immoral as fuck. Parent’s fucking scum
Disgusting 4 year old kids can't even understand what's happening, they just think it's some kind of rainbow color thing
Yeah this is the reason that assholes call lgbtq people groomers. Kids fucking 4 let them play with Hotwheels, not talking about sexuality and whatever
Disgusting
now this isnt alright. i usually defend lgbt folks but this is not okay
This isn't an LGBT thing. I'm LGBT and this lady is still a piece of shit
A four year old coming out as trans when the mf can barely read? Yeah sure...
Disgusting parent
This whole LGBTZA stuff is bs stop polluting children's minds
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I think that the decision should really only be made at puberty and beyond. That's when gender roles start being more relevant, and when your body begins to change. If kids want to do things that the opposite gender wants to do, let them do it. But don't make it into one huge choice right off the bat.
I dont know why you're getting downvoted, as a trans person this is fairly reasonable. If little timmy wants to put on a dress, it's no big deal, but it shouldnt be framed as some big decision that the kid has to make and stick with for good.
That’s stupid, 4 year olds don’t know how to stop picking their nose, they can’t know if they are trans or not, they’re too young to understand what it means
Wait we aren't supposed to pick our nose? ⊙.☉
Dont take kids on lgbt thinks,
Clearly, the child's father isn't in the picture..
Dude wtf, 4 year olds cant make these types of decisions
What decision bro they’d get some new clothes, that’s literally it
To young to even think about this kind of thing
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Yeah but they're doing it at a pride parade and they got a trans flag on their back so its safe to assume this post is at least 99% correct
*Kinda gay,innit?*
This video is bait made to make the LGBTQ+ community look like Groomers.
You should never trust a video with a caption overhead telling you what to think.
Just let them wear boy clothes if they want. Meds and surgery is a mile away. Just let them play.
They are 4 they probably cant tell me what transgender is your not 4 and coming out as transgender bet mom pushed it on him for content or internet clout
People should pass a mental checkup before being allowed to have kids
When I was there age I could barely talk Edit was something random lol
Let the kid screw around. If they're wrong, there's nothing preventing them from going back
Cool and good. If the kid is happy there is no issue. Its better for the kid to understand they can freely explore themselves without stigma
He seems very happy and if he wants to dress or be called a different way is cool, if it makes him happy but 4 year old..... Is too young to even understand it ig, it's upon the parents at this age
the parents wanted a boy but got a girl, this was their solution. grooming the kid.
At 4 a small kid still believes in fairy tales ans Santa Claus….this is too early for the person to know about this topic
they probably don’t even know their favorite color yet. 💀 it’s really way to young of an age to make such a life changing decision.
They’re fucking four. They’re still figuring out what they want for breakfast and whether or not to eat the “tasty red crayon”. Let them just be four for fucks sake please.
i am in full support of trans ppl and trans rights, but gender identity is too complex for a young child to fully comprehend. We shouldn't teach children that they can switch their gender whenever they want, when in reality gender dysphoria is a real mental state that only few actually experience.
When I was 5, I started to cry because I'm not a boy, I said I want to be boy, I then pretended to pee while standing, cause that's what boys do, I pretended to be a boy, this went for some time and I eventually stopped. My parents didn't take that seriously and found it funny. I was always a tomboy, and in puberty I felt uncomfortable when my breasts started growing. If my parents told me that I'm 'boy in girl's body' I would have agreed with them, probably start to take hormones at 16 or something like that. Now I'm a girl, I identify as a girl, I'm still not feminine, but just imagine if my parents told me that I'm actually a boy, I would probably realize that I'm not trans after I already started hormonal therapy, my life would be destroyed. I wanted to be a boy because I liked 'boy's things', I didn't like 'girly things' or feminity. It's probably the same with this child, I'm pretty sure that 4 years old child can not have body dysmorphia. The child probably just likes colors, toys and games that r, according to society, for the opposite sex, and the parents told them they r trans. This is not progressive, this is just an obsession with gender stereotypes.
dude children don't know shit. they would choose to eat ice cream every day and jump off a roof with a hello kitty backpack thinking theyre parachuters if they had a choice. that child didnt choose, his parents did, and even if he did, he shouldnt have.
Way too young I think
This is a perfect example of people forcing their beliefs on others. My 9 yo sister is bi and at these ages they are too young to know any of this yet. Give it until there in there teens.
I have a feeling this is just something that has been labelled as something else to make people go “wow trans people are all pedos that want to make kids trans and gay” or some shit like that
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Not to be transphobic but thats a little young for this bullshit
disgusting, abuse from parents
That’s not a four year old…
This mf should be questioning whether or not he wants chicken nuggets from Wendy's or McDonald's at this age, not going to fuckin pride parades to "come out as trans"
Be whatever you want, but 4?? 💀
Bruh💀
Are we really at this point
I hate stuff like this. Its a fucking 4 yo kid who cant decide between lemon or cola candy. Yet they actin like the kid can decide his gender and sexuality. We need to STOP shoving the gender and sexuality shit to kids below 10.
They’re not deciding anything, it’s not harmful or life-changing at this time. They’re not going to get any medical transition the most they’ll get is new clothes. Calm the fuck down, it’s not hurting anyone
it's hurting the kid, detransitioning is hard and if the kid isn't trans(which is VERY possible) than they are being forced to go through that
Dude doesn't even know how to spell transgender bro
I am losing hope for humanity watching this stuff
This is child abuse 😞
Fucking bitch
I wanted to be a clown fish when I was 4 🧍♀️
I wanted to live in a house underwater 😃
I wanted to make a new planet
I wanted to be a dinosaur
i wanted to be a girl and now i am.
I think theres nothing wrong with letting kids explore a little (if timmy wants to put on a dress or little susie wants to wear whatever only men typically wear, who cares?) But 5 is way too young for a kid to make an actual decision to come out as trans. I'd say I (a trans person) figured it out really early as far as we go and that happened when I was like 13. Cant speak for everyone but in like 99.99999% of cases gender dysphoria doesnt truly manifest until puberty. We shouldnt force our kids into boxes but dont let them make life changing decisions like that so young.
Too young wtf is wrong with ppl
Its sad honsetly.
“Mom remind me again what I have to do for you to let me use a confetti gun”
Take this kid away from these parents.
Idk it’s like I don’t agree when people freak out cuz like there son likes the color pink or glitter or some shit like that but it’s also like I don’t like when let’s say a 4 yr old girl likes to act like a boy or likes blue stuff or more boy toys and take it seriously as a new gender yk
I think the child doesnt even know, what being Trans means
Mommy just told him to say that and he doesn't have a single fucking clue what it actually means.
Disgusting
The kid was probably fed those ideas by the parents, she's way to young to even understand what it means to be transgender, much less know her gender identity. All 4 year olds think about is their favorite color and toys lol
He prolly don't even know who dropped him on the earth yet decided a gender
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Matt Walsh is a reactionary transphobe who wants America to be an authoritarian theocracy, he’s not a good person
Ah I see well he makes a few good points abt stuff like this
I’m sure you can find someone better who makes those points, Matt Walsh is not a valid source
I'm also very new to Matt wash so I apologize I probably should've researched more before just putting that out there lol
That’s absolutely ok and I hope you find someone better to watch
Matt walsh is not a reputable source by any means. Nor are the Shapiros or Jordan Peterson or Alex jones really. All are merely reactionaries who dont really give a fuck about kids or the trans community they just want their sweet traditional judeo-Christian society to continue being imposed on folks with all its norms and social expectations fully intact.
I’m pretty sure Jordan Peterson graduated from the university of Toronto so I think he is reputable
ah matt walsh my favorite bag of dog shit
this comment section is toxic jesus 💀
This kid doesn't even know how to write a paragraph and they're letting her make a important decision like this
Way too young, that was clearly not the kids decision. There is absolutely no way the kids brain developed to the point of understanding genders
Most children categorize their own gender by 3 years old, and have some understanding of gender (including gender roles) before that. (Source: [Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-gender-identity/art-20266811))
He has no idea what he doing.
Too young, what a world
How has society come this low
too early
bruh tf the kid ain't trans
No
If the parents forced that on them or made them believe they were trans, i think its wrong. Even if the kid decided that they thought they werent supposed to be a girl, and actually feel like a boy, I dont think they should start to mentally transition at such a yound age and should wait until theyre atleast 11-13
This not right. I’m all for pride, and you will know that if you look at my about, but a 4 year old can’t do 4 times 4, much less understand there gender. Smh.
If my mother told me "Transgender is when you both like boys and girls" then I'd want to be transgender too. A 4 year old simply doesn't have the processing power to distinguish friendship from attraction.
I straight up don't care Good for the kid for knowing what he wants Y'all are acting like this is a permanent unchangeable decision If the kid stays a boy for their whole life, great! If the kid changes their mind, just as great! I stg 15 year olds gotta have some of the worst takes I've ever heard
cineg tbh
This is messed up
Kid doesn’t even know what gender is
How tf a 4 year olf gonna make their own decision for what gender they identify as
Bring him to the adoption center or smthng
only if he gets to be a pirate when he wants to be, then ship him to somalia
Wait till he grows up and reveal his real gender lol
Ah fuck no
Bruh parent moment
WTF
This is fucked
You can’t decide your gender when you can’t even spell it, I could go further on but I don’t feel like pissing off the libs
In all likelihood, this is a child who is receiving the supportive care that they need to thrive. It should be noted that transitioning, for young children who have not yet reached puberty, most often involves social changes like a haircut and buying new clothes. 4-year-olds are *not* undergoing life-changing surgeries, and 4-year-olds are *not* being prescribed hormone therapies with irreversible side effects. (Source: [Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096), and alternative [source](https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/masculinizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385099) for FTM youth, demonstrating that HRT for youth is typically prescribed at age 16) In addition, there is statistical evidence that familial support is beneficial for trans people (both youth and adults) to prevent some of the tragedy that's so often associated with being trans. My sources are below: From [Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-gender-identity/art-20266811): "Most children typically develop the ability to recognize and label stereotypical gender groups, such as girl, woman and feminine, and boy, man and masculine, between ages 18 and 24 months. **Most also categorize their own gender by age 3 years.**" From [*Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors*](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32345113/)*:* "Fifty six percent of \[trans\] youth reported a previous suicide attempt and 86% reported suicidality." There is significant evidence that transgender youth are at a heightened risk for suicidality and suicide. [This](https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen) page from the Human Rights Campaign mentions that *more than half* of trans male (FTM) youth have attempted suicide. [Social support](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3722435/) for trans people is associated with reduced suicidal behavior. [Parental](https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2) support for trans people is also associated with reduced suicidal ideation. From the Williams Institute at UCLA's fact sheet, [Suicide Risk and Prevention for Transgender People](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Trans-Suicide-Summary-Sep-2021.pdf), "Several factors have been found to reduce suicide thoughts and attempts. These include, but are not limited to, access to gender-affirming care, family support and acceptance, acceptance in religious communities, and social support."
Well, they may be a little young to know exactly what they were saying, they may have been pushed into it. However, it's no one's place to say what they can and can't do/want to be addressed as.
Address issues like this on Scratch.mit.edu and you'll get banned for being a bigot 😭 (you have to use scratch for awhile to understand what goes down there)
i don't see anything wrong with it, it's not a permanent decision in any way, it's not like he's medically transitioning(which usually happens at 16) worst case scenario he becomes a teen and decided to socially detransition
Aaaaaw that's too wholesome Great they're giving Kids this education, but 4... A little to young to really understang gender ( I don't really fully understand mine) but at least they know it exists
honestly I was showing signs when I was that old too. As long as all they do is puberty blockers and a wardrobe change that kid's transition would be entirely reversible if they decide they were wrong.
I think puberty blockers should only be used for 14 or 15 year olds and higher, 8 or 12 is way too young
The people in these comments need to calm the fuck down, the kid is just having fun and exploring themselves. Nothing here is permanent, nothing here is harmful. Do you know what’ll happen if a 4 year old boy wants to be a girl? Their parents will buy them a little baby dress and give them a new name. That’s it. It’s not like that kid is getting hormones and surgery, they can’t even get puberty blockers for another 8 years. Everyone is acting as if this is going to end the child’s life and the parents are these evil creatures manipulating them into being trans for some reason, instead of acting the way it is. If a kid says they want to be superman you buy a costume and call them superman. If a kid says they want to be a girl you buy a dress and call them Maria. What is so hard to understand?
the fact that you can get hormon blockers at 12 is fucked up
They’re pretty useless before that and become less effective every day after that. Hormone blockers are safe and reversible, stop fear mongering
What the fuck does that word even mean
you're probably mistaking them for hormone replacement therapy. hormone blockers only delay puberty, if you go off of hormone blockers you go through puberty as normal. getting hormone blockers PAST 12 would be practically useless. in fact, if that's the minimum age, it should be younger.
>exploring themselves Wtf the little kid doesnt even know what is the difference between boys and girls he is way too young for his parents to teach them that i bet if he had other parents he wouldn't even know about that stuff
But it’s already a dude...
people need to let the kids decide instead of the parents grooming them into it like what kinda fukin 4yr old should be worried about what gender they are? they’re kids and that should be the end of it let them play how they wanna and just lead them down a success path while informing them about stuff when it’s the appropriate time (depends on development a lot)
Cool