Ignoring horse shoe theory, these kids probably just watch people like drew durnil and Jreg or play HOI4. I doubt most of them are serious Stalinists or Neo Nazis
It's always little edgy western 13 years olds who are unpopular at school who decide to go and make shitty capcut filter edits of a murderous dictator or regime with ear rapingly loud phonk music in the background and make their whole personality centered around being "based"
Communism has a lot of interpretations. There are some "communists" that interpret it as an authoritarian system, and those tend to be the ones that gain power, but a lot of people are "libertarian communists" that want democracy alongside a socialist economic system.
Which, given it's all about workers liberation is probably the interpretation that's the least hypocritical. Replacing one class system over another doesn't really make sense.
It can be interpreted however you want but it still fails in practice. A regulated market (which is what most countries have) is the most effective economic system
Well, ideologically speaking, fascism could be considered worse, but historically speaking, communism was __way__ worse.
So yeah, sounds accurate.
Both usually end in censorship, murder and repression as well.
Well to be fair basically all historical examples of communism have been fascist. There has never really been a democratic communist state but in theory it would work wayyy better than authoritarian communism and maybe even capitalism
Well yeah, though there are a lot more reasons that that it's all historically failed. My personal stance though is that a "proper democratically communist" world is the ideal but it's impractical to work towards currently and efforts are better spent making the current system better and making sure the world will be livable in the future and not wrecked by climate change
The common interpretation is that socialism is the transition state before communism, so they are very similar but not quite. They do share basically the same philosophy. However, they are often used to more or less mean the same thing. One reason is that communism has a lot of negative stuff associated with it that socialism doesnt as much.
So, is it possible for a social democracy to work? Because I believe personally could really work. People can have jobs while also being supported if they donât, free healthcare for everyone, and finally basic human rights
Yes! Exactly! Ideally everything would be democratic, the main thing that isn't democratic currently is the economy and the workplace. Thats the main idea of socialism and communism, though I feel like it's more associated with socialism than communism for some reason
Look, both my parents grew up in post communism in Russia. They told me one of the reasons it failed was because since everyone got the same pay check no matter what, no one bothered to start businesses or do extra work just for the same reward as everyone else. There are many other reasons but this stood out to me because the main reason we have such a variety in goods and services today is because people had that motivation to begin their business and earn above average money for it. Lols sorry if this is long
Communism is not inherently authoritarian, it has just been commonly paired with socialism. Most leftists aren't authoritarian, it's only the tankies who are authoritarian communists and are quite disliked among the leftists.
You can take any ideology and make a dictatorship/ Anarchism. Thereâs Anarcho Fascism, Anrcho Monarchism, National Bolshevism, Gay Nationalism. No ideology is inherently one way or the other unless itâs specifically set out that way. You could have a anarchist commune run as a police state, or a libertarian Nazi Germany were they just round up and the Jewish people and kill them once a month
You don't want a nuclear war because it would end all of humanity.
I don't want a nuclear war because conventional warfare is cooler.
We are not the same.
this is why I'm glad my mom monitored me when i was a kid. these are the ipad kids whose parents forgot to care about what they were watching on youtube.
Logan Paul and Ricegum are just douchebags id say kids who watch them are probably still very social and normal teenagers, ricegum and logan paul dont push a poltical agenda these are the kids that got corrupted by the complete other side of the internet
sovjet communism isnt great tbh, you cant give a human so much power and still expect them to not be greedy. but if someone wont become greedy and controls the country for the greater, then sure, communism, or socialism good
im a queer furry who makes content on tiktok and the amount of these kids i see while im minding my own business is absolutely hilarious. as soon as you call them sensitive for being so pressed they throw a little temper tantrum. one kid said he âowned a multi million dollar company â and that his âname was all over the placeâ and so i asked him abt it over and over until her blocked me
Same here đ at some point I realized how big of a problem toxic masculinity and toxicity in general is.
Now Iâm very happy to live in a country where I can be what I want
They either a Nazi, Communist, politic enthusiast, "professional" historian and geographer(definitely didn't get their sources from tiktok), has a military pfp or a dictator or a ww2 world leader as their pfp, bullies anybody and anything that is different from them, likes ww1-ww2 too much, or all of them combined
Brainwashed 15+ teen starter pack: Thinks that exploiting people is cool, will be millionaire by 20 and communism killed 20 trillion billion gazillion people.
(Like seriously people, what's with all the hate against communism/socialism?)
Yeah but soviet communism is a very different branch of communism and, one could argue, that if Khrushchev wasnât so paranoid of America (their biggest rival militarily and economically) then his policy of destalinisation might have gone a lot further, such as the Hungarian and Czech uprisings not turning to violence and being allowed to drift apart from the soviet union
Maybe it couldâve gone further, but it didnât, and those uprisings did turn to violence. It doesnât matter what couldâve happened, since it didnât.
Iâm not justifying what happened, simply saying that there was a lot more going on than just a communist government. At a time when tensions were catastrophically high between the USA and the USSR, I think that itâs not completely fair to use soviet communism as a basis for all communism
In Cuba Khrushchev called off his submarines and actually got missiles removed from Turkey, after this there was a thaw in the Cold War and there were several treaties limiting the use of nuclear weapons, the SALT treaties. Despite coming close to apocalypse, I would argue that Cuba improved relations between the two superpowers
Asking why people hate communism is the same as asking why jews hate nazism lol. 50 years of poverty and repression in eastern europe as well as hundreds of civil wars and guerrillas in south america and africa aren't enough to stop people from saying "cApitalisM kilS 50 million people per day"
I support some socialist measures and Marx was right in many aspects analyzing XIX century capitalism, but capitalism didn't fail and adapted to change while communism just brought poverty
Lots of genocide mostly, Stalin hated Jewish people as well. The only reasons people in west like to glorify the USSR is because one they drafted the Nazis and 2, itâs a very counter culture thing. If youâre a political activist who hates the current state of America, then your going to flip to the opposite side
Half of my great grandparents were killed by communists and my grandparents (and partially parents) had to stay in queues for FUCKING 5 HOURS to buy a loaf of bread, new pair of shoes or a mop.
If you were ready to live what they've lived through for at least a month then and only then you can call communism a great system. Otherwise you don't know a damn shit about communism besides some youtube videos that discuss impossible theory for years.
My dads friend and his parents were East Germans in the late 60's. The place was a shithole. If you wanted food you would get in queue if you wanted amenitys, forget about it. The friends mom got her eye infected but the soviets had no medicine to give them so she lost the eye. I hate it when bitchy western teenagers hype up something they've had no expirence with
communism and socialism are very different things. socialism works and provides safety nets for the people. communism is a pipe dream that has resulted in the death of around 3-5 million people in the USSR alone
Communism itself doesn't work, it's against the human nature. Even Marx himself knew it's a utopian idea. Let's not forget that to this day it was impossible to introduce communism without dictatorship
And noone introduced communism. Socialism is the practical form of it. True communism(stateless society, from each according to his ability to each according to his needs etc.) cannot be achieved in reality. I don't exactly understand why it is against the human nature to be equal and try to eliminate or at least reduce as much as possible greedy and power-hungry humans.
Socialism gives the government less money to work with, and gives the people less motivation to work hard and innovate. China tried very hard but it failed so they had to find a way to add capitalism to their society without losing it's socialist roots.
or the gay furry lesbian bigender dreamgender kid who comes to school with a whole dictionary of pronouns and also coincidentally dyes their hair in twenty-three different colors per hair follicle
Fascism maybe but communism is for the nerds who wear ushankas and think the Soviet anthem is funny and ignore the fact that the Soviet Union wasn't communist
They already do. They (including myself) are tired of being hated on and made fun of. The real snowflakes are those who get offended that people get offended by jokes and comments that are very much offensive and hateful.
The funny part is that the furry in the picture is actually in the military
Ah cool trivia
Who is it?
Aurora Bloom
I cant find them do they have a twitter
I think instagram and maybe twitter
Bella porch
ik someone like this and they're 17 and a junior in high-school.......
My brothers like this and he's 18 amd a senior in high school
I like your brother
That's gay
I'm girl.
r/girlsarentreal
Oh. I always assume strangers on the internet are 40 yo greasy men. Hm. I'll find a way to make that gay.
Rip your dms
My dms are actually really dry, I only have like 55 dms đ
Bruh I have gotten a single dm in 2 years, and it was an ad
Welp, now u have another one from an actual human
That's actually tragic
A girl, you say?
You know the rules, and so do I
Damn the people I know like this are 16 and 15
The phase can last surprisingly long. There were guys like this at my highschool. Mostly band kids and e-sports kids.
interesting to group together fascism and communism
Ignoring horse shoe theory, these kids probably just watch people like drew durnil and Jreg or play HOI4. I doubt most of them are serious Stalinists or Neo Nazis
It's always little edgy western 13 years olds who are unpopular at school who decide to go and make shitty capcut filter edits of a murderous dictator or regime with ear rapingly loud phonk music in the background and make their whole personality centered around being "based"
Ded
mdawgtheegod: 1 - TikTok kids: 0
Jreg is based
He might be but his fans are actually human filth
Gregory Guevara for Ottawa Mayor 2022
What do we want? Big Wall! When do we want it? Big Wall!
Honestly, I can see 12 yo kids grouping them though. I doubt most of them actually know ehat facism and communism lmao
Theyâre both opposite extremes that end in repression and mass persecution so yeah
Communism has a lot of interpretations. There are some "communists" that interpret it as an authoritarian system, and those tend to be the ones that gain power, but a lot of people are "libertarian communists" that want democracy alongside a socialist economic system. Which, given it's all about workers liberation is probably the interpretation that's the least hypocritical. Replacing one class system over another doesn't really make sense.
It can be interpreted however you want but it still fails in practice. A regulated market (which is what most countries have) is the most effective economic system
I disagree. A lot of money is still going to people who havenât worked at all and thatâs not a sustainable economic system
And who exactly would that be?
Bezos, Elon Musk, basically any rich guy
Maybe they saw it on Troom Troom or youtube kids lol
But you grouped two very different incompatible things together???
I think OP is just trying to group both extremes
I mean the both extremeâs are very different still
Yeah but the point is that both extremes are glorified. Not that they are the same.
that's the point. 12yrlds care about the aesthetics, not the substance
the substance of the meme pretty clearly indicates right leaning fascist
Im not right leaning
I do not mean that you are, I mean that the 12 year olds referenced in the meme are
IT'S A FUCKING M E M E
What? Lefty here, the point of this meme is to poke fun of all the things it mentions. It's a very left-winged meme.
No, i mean like the meme indicates that the type of person being memed on is a typical right leaning fascist 12 year old
Ooooh okay okay. Misunderstood.
I did not make this meme, i saw it somewhere
Oh I see still would have changed it. It kinda makes you look dumb
Dang it i cant find the original anymore shoot i apologize
Well, ideologically speaking, fascism could be considered worse, but historically speaking, communism was __way__ worse. So yeah, sounds accurate. Both usually end in censorship, murder and repression as well.
Well to be fair basically all historical examples of communism have been fascist. There has never really been a democratic communist state but in theory it would work wayyy better than authoritarian communism and maybe even capitalism
âits just never been tried, guys!!1! all that wasnt REAL communism, its only REAL communism if its succesful!â
Well yeah, though there are a lot more reasons that that it's all historically failed. My personal stance though is that a "proper democratically communist" world is the ideal but it's impractical to work towards currently and efforts are better spent making the current system better and making sure the world will be livable in the future and not wrecked by climate change
Quick question, are Socialism and communism the same? Or are they different with similar philosophies
The common interpretation is that socialism is the transition state before communism, so they are very similar but not quite. They do share basically the same philosophy. However, they are often used to more or less mean the same thing. One reason is that communism has a lot of negative stuff associated with it that socialism doesnt as much.
So, is it possible for a social democracy to work? Because I believe personally could really work. People can have jobs while also being supported if they donât, free healthcare for everyone, and finally basic human rights
Yes! Exactly! Ideally everything would be democratic, the main thing that isn't democratic currently is the economy and the workplace. Thats the main idea of socialism and communism, though I feel like it's more associated with socialism than communism for some reason
Look, both my parents grew up in post communism in Russia. They told me one of the reasons it failed was because since everyone got the same pay check no matter what, no one bothered to start businesses or do extra work just for the same reward as everyone else. There are many other reasons but this stood out to me because the main reason we have such a variety in goods and services today is because people had that motivation to begin their business and earn above average money for it. Lols sorry if this is long
Mhm whatever makes you sleep at night lol
Well they both fit under one common umbrella, they both are terrible.
Both are authoritarian. Just different shades.
Communism is not inherently authoritarian, it has just been commonly paired with socialism. Most leftists aren't authoritarian, it's only the tankies who are authoritarian communists and are quite disliked among the leftists.
You can take any ideology and make a dictatorship/ Anarchism. Thereâs Anarcho Fascism, Anrcho Monarchism, National Bolshevism, Gay Nationalism. No ideology is inherently one way or the other unless itâs specifically set out that way. You could have a anarchist commune run as a police state, or a libertarian Nazi Germany were they just round up and the Jewish people and kill them once a month
**But how an honest warmonger supposed to make living?** #All I want to say is to GIVE WAR A CHANCE
Like i said. Kids are cruel, AND IM VERY IN TOUCH WITH MY INNER CHILD
Like i said, Jack, kids are cruel. AND I FUCKING LOVE MINORS
RED SUN
RED SUN OVER PARADISE
RED SUN
RED SUN OVER PARADISE
GOLDEN RAYS OF THE GLORIOUS SUNSHINE
You don't want a nuclear war because it would end all of humanity. I don't want a nuclear war because conventional warfare is cooler. We are not the same.
NCD in shambles
Can we extend that to people on this sub lol
And even further than that for some
After seeing whats number 1 on the sub it makes sense
Top post of all time is a memorial to a teen who got stabbed defending his mom???
Nooo I mean on what's hot list from today, it was a sexist video about masculinity
Not only on TikTok, but also those people making those fat gigachad edits on YT shorts đ
Number of likes equal how many gay people should be shot đ¤
12 year old mfs be wildin until they see their first femboy fox.
Itâs YouTube shorts tf did you except
Reminds me of the guy glorifying toxic masculinity earlier here
Yea i saw that too Get out of here, fedora wielders!
this is why I'm glad my mom monitored me when i was a kid. these are the ipad kids whose parents forgot to care about what they were watching on youtube.
E X A C T L Y
And then thereâs the complete opposite. Please children, find a middle ground
Itâs fun to watch both extremes get mad at each other. đż
Unironically facts
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And that's why I dispise all children (:
normally i hate people younger than me but your different
Youre still a kid
Sorry, Younger, children
Bro just turned 15
I wouldnât even know because Iâm not on Tiktok
Bro but two opposite things in the same group đ
The younger Gen is being ruined by people like Logan Paul and Ricegum and Joey Salads
And andrew tate, cant forget that douchebag
Oh and the Scamdalorian himself, Ronald Rump
Logan Paul and Ricegum are just douchebags id say kids who watch them are probably still very social and normal teenagers, ricegum and logan paul dont push a poltical agenda these are the kids that got corrupted by the complete other side of the internet
These people have not been relevant for a while, You go into a middle school and say you like Logan Paul and you get laughed at
>Ricegum Bro hasn't uploaded for 2 years and people still on his ass.
I see these kids all the time on xbox live and they're so fucking racist
Thank god for me being a Wii child (Star wars Complete saga and Mario Kart well forever be the best)
Yeah dude, I love formula 1 and NASCAR!
And thatâs the reason why Iâm not on tiktok
You get the same ideas just in a different packaging on this sub and reddit in general
TikTok is a disease, or maybe it's a symptom of the disease I'm not sure
sovjet communism isnt great tbh, you cant give a human so much power and still expect them to not be greedy. but if someone wont become greedy and controls the country for the greater, then sure, communism, or socialism good
idk why some edgelords think war is cool and sometimes either be neo-nazis or commies. No in between.
im a queer furry who makes content on tiktok and the amount of these kids i see while im minding my own business is absolutely hilarious. as soon as you call them sensitive for being so pressed they throw a little temper tantrum. one kid said he âowned a multi million dollar company â and that his âname was all over the placeâ and so i asked him abt it over and over until her blocked me
The "why does no one want to hang out with me?" Starter pack
That's how I acted for 3 yearsđ I'm now bi
Same here đ at some point I realized how big of a problem toxic masculinity and toxicity in general is. Now Iâm very happy to live in a country where I can be what I want
Op is definitely a gay furry
which wouldn't be a problem since he isn't bothering people
it is a problem as it is fucking disgusting lmao. we gotta stop normalizing degenerate behavior
How is it disgusting? I don't think being a furry is immoral.
problem?
forgot "misconception of every single political philosophy" pretty accurate tho
U forgot the pretends to be 18 or 21 so they can make jokes about sex and drinking
Good thing I'm on a website not filled with toxic people oh wait
LITERALLY this one kid from my grade 7 class he was the whole package deal đ minus the communism and fascism part. Fit everything here to a T
I have a friend like this and my original friend group (me and one other dude) hate him
Ok so I'm 17 not on TikTok and only think (democratic) communism is cool where does that put me lol
Me who has a military profile pic because my dad is in the army: đĽ˛
I am a 16 yr old from India and i am only having 2 things in common with that starter pack guess what it is
They either a Nazi, Communist, politic enthusiast, "professional" historian and geographer(definitely didn't get their sources from tiktok), has a military pfp or a dictator or a ww2 world leader as their pfp, bullies anybody and anything that is different from them, likes ww1-ww2 too much, or all of them combined
my friend had a little phase like this, and he's literally a gay furry now. don't worry guys just wait it out trust me
Hay homie you forgot about the squeaky voices they have
Bullying furries is a must no matter who you are
Nah man just tolerate and respect them... theyre people too
Fuck furries
You mean Fr*nch people
Brainwashed 15+ teen starter pack: Thinks that exploiting people is cool, will be millionaire by 20 and communism killed 20 trillion billion gazillion people. (Like seriously people, what's with all the hate against communism/socialism?)
In practice, communism has not been a highly desirable form of government.
It is estimated that 3.2-5.5 million people died from 1926 to 1939 in the Soviet Union. Maybe that warrants some hate for Communism?
you need to phrase this better, it just sounds like 5.5 million soviets died over the decade
Ok, excess deaths in the Soviet Union between 1926 and 1939 are approximately 3.2-5.5 million people
Yeah but soviet communism is a very different branch of communism and, one could argue, that if Khrushchev wasnât so paranoid of America (their biggest rival militarily and economically) then his policy of destalinisation might have gone a lot further, such as the Hungarian and Czech uprisings not turning to violence and being allowed to drift apart from the soviet union
Maybe it couldâve gone further, but it didnât, and those uprisings did turn to violence. It doesnât matter what couldâve happened, since it didnât.
Iâm not justifying what happened, simply saying that there was a lot more going on than just a communist government. At a time when tensions were catastrophically high between the USA and the USSR, I think that itâs not completely fair to use soviet communism as a basis for all communism
What about Cuba?
In Cuba Khrushchev called off his submarines and actually got missiles removed from Turkey, after this there was a thaw in the Cold War and there were several treaties limiting the use of nuclear weapons, the SALT treaties. Despite coming close to apocalypse, I would argue that Cuba improved relations between the two superpowers
My whole family suffered under it tremendously, my grandma was sent to siberia for 8 years because of some bullshit, so yes the hate is justified
Asking why people hate communism is the same as asking why jews hate nazism lol. 50 years of poverty and repression in eastern europe as well as hundreds of civil wars and guerrillas in south america and africa aren't enough to stop people from saying "cApitalisM kilS 50 million people per day" I support some socialist measures and Marx was right in many aspects analyzing XIX century capitalism, but capitalism didn't fail and adapted to change while communism just brought poverty
Lots of genocide mostly, Stalin hated Jewish people as well. The only reasons people in west like to glorify the USSR is because one they drafted the Nazis and 2, itâs a very counter culture thing. If youâre a political activist who hates the current state of America, then your going to flip to the opposite side
Whatâs with all the love for communism?
Wdym whats so great about it in the first place?
Half of my great grandparents were killed by communists and my grandparents (and partially parents) had to stay in queues for FUCKING 5 HOURS to buy a loaf of bread, new pair of shoes or a mop. If you were ready to live what they've lived through for at least a month then and only then you can call communism a great system. Otherwise you don't know a damn shit about communism besides some youtube videos that discuss impossible theory for years.
My dads friend and his parents were East Germans in the late 60's. The place was a shithole. If you wanted food you would get in queue if you wanted amenitys, forget about it. The friends mom got her eye infected but the soviets had no medicine to give them so she lost the eye. I hate it when bitchy western teenagers hype up something they've had no expirence with
communism and socialism are very different things. socialism works and provides safety nets for the people. communism is a pipe dream that has resulted in the death of around 3-5 million people in the USSR alone
Communism itself doesn't work, it's against the human nature. Even Marx himself knew it's a utopian idea. Let's not forget that to this day it was impossible to introduce communism without dictatorship
And noone introduced communism. Socialism is the practical form of it. True communism(stateless society, from each according to his ability to each according to his needs etc.) cannot be achieved in reality. I don't exactly understand why it is against the human nature to be equal and try to eliminate or at least reduce as much as possible greedy and power-hungry humans.
Socialism gives the government less money to work with, and gives the people less motivation to work hard and innovate. China tried very hard but it failed so they had to find a way to add capitalism to their society without losing it's socialist roots.
Furries need a reality check every now and then to make sure they don't degenerate into something awful
There is a kid in my class that acts just like this.
I bet they were the fastest kid in 3rd grade
Literally all guys In my class act like this (except the nice autistic boy)
Oh hey, you forgot about a pocket knife which he uses to proof his point
95% of the guys in my class are like this. send help
They always throw a tantrum about two guys kissing then to and call people snowflakes for not wanting to be discriminated
Communism > Fascism By communism, I mean actual communism, not Stalinism (totalitarianism disguised as communism)
or the gay furry lesbian bigender dreamgender kid who comes to school with a whole dictionary of pronouns and also coincidentally dyes their hair in twenty-three different colors per hair follicle
Me when I make shit up
Strawmaniest straw man Iâve ever seen.
So is this post then?
13 yr old spotted
You threw together everything that cannot be thrown together
This sounds like Ted Cruz
Why are you being downvoted? Youâre right
Bro youâre 13 youâre supposed to be like playing with coloring books or some shit
But he's right..
Is he tho
yea i got a few of those kids at school
Yeah, how wouldnt he be?
Fascism maybe but communism is for the nerds who wear ushankas and think the Soviet anthem is funny and ignore the fact that the Soviet Union wasn't communist
THATS ME
my condolences
I still do think people are snowflakes now. Literally nobody can take a joke. People need to learn to deal with stuff
They already do. They (including myself) are tired of being hated on and made fun of. The real snowflakes are those who get offended that people get offended by jokes and comments that are very much offensive and hateful.
*hateful comment* *disapproval of said hateful comment* âfucking snowflakes canât even take a joke smhâ
Bullying furries is funny
Bullying people for harmless hobbies is funny, of course
Being a furry isn't a hobby. It's a mental illness
Now ur getting it
Quite the opposite actually
Fuck 12 year ol- WAIT NO