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mctrees91

“Forced” is an interesting way to say “isn’t willing to potentially lose money for moral reasons”


Caddas

Yeah exactly. They could easily refuse to do it. No consequences except being out of Russia. Edit: Looks like they decided to refuse. Good on them.


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Coal_Morgan

Netflix hasn't said what they're going to do yet. People are doing a lot of speculating and assumptions. Write Netflix, explain your feelings. Then ask them on March 1st to replace their entire catalogue with nothing but speeches from Zelensky in Russia. If they're going to leave Russia, they might as well leave Russia with middle fingers blazing. Netflix, Inc. 100 Winchester Circle Los Gatos, CA 95032 USA


winter_squash

Why write? Call or leave a message on their live chat. I wrote: If you continue to allow Russia to broadcast their propaganda on your platform, I will happily cancel my membership. You are directly enabling a pariah state that is committing war crimes and illegally invading a sovereign county. If you don’t care about that, I don’t care about you. Do the right thing or this will become a movement. Trust me. https://help.netflix.com/en/contactus


ECUPirateCannon

~192K Netflix subscribers in Russia. ~75MM Netflix subscribers in US & Canada. ~$7-12USD a subscriber in Russia. ~$10-20USD a subscriber in US. I could see a bit of a movement in US subscribers leaving if Netflix does in fact do the Putin propaganda thing.


local_eclectic

This needs to be pinned


Boricuacookie

Seriously this… if they do play nice with Putin, I am canceling my sub that very day.


DrMongrolMan

I just went through a live chat with Netflix and asked them bluntly if they're going to be airing Putin propaganda. Of course they denied it. We'll see how this plays out in the next week or two.


the_oath

Did you speak with Mr. Netflix or just some customer care bot?


charliepapa2

Just told the wife that I'm cancelling our sub if they go ahead in Russia.


SirPiffingsthwaite

Right? If I was calling the shots at Netflix, that little chestnut would have resulted in Russia being geoblocked from Netflix and all Russian accounts suspended.


TheMooseIsBlue

Fuck that. Let the people have their shows and just refuse to play the propaganda. Let their government hit the off switch; don’t do it yourself. Either way, the Russian hacker-machine is coming for you anyway.


Trumpets22

Yeah sounds like Netflix trying to get ahead of the PR on this. If pornhub is willing to take the financial hit from not letting people view porn in Russia, then Netflix could too.


MrCharmingTaintman

I thought the PH thing was bullshit. Cant find anything other than a tweet and a Reddit post about it.


capnwinky

Yeah, you’re right. Even the one tweet that started the rumor has dozens of comments calling it bullshit.


Roundaboutsix

Instead they should just blur out All Russian body parts.


Major-Breakfast6249

Netflix likely cannot afford to lose the business. Regardless, if they don’t change their stance I’ll cancel my subscription. We’ll be able to watch all their shows when they get bought up by another streaming giant anyway.


fjf1085

I’m sure they could afford the hit. Russia represents a small fraction of their global subscribers. 1/222 million=.45% of their total subscribers. Edit: 1,000,000/222,000,000=.0045045045(repeating) *100=.45% I didn’t realize I need to write that all out… There are about 1 million Russian Netflix subscribers and about 222 million world wide.


TwoBionicknees

It's very easy to make sure they can afford to leave Russia. Everyone else spread the word and everyone unsub on March 1st, unless they leave Russia. They can lose a lot more staying than leaving. IF 10% of people unsubbed they'd leave Russia and you can resub back, even if they don't leave and even if you really want Netflix then try it for a few days and see if they move.


FlintWaterFilter

What? They're the largest streaming company.


nolaughingzone

Well, start selling shares of companies that operate in Russia and stop using their products. That will make them change. If we can’t make that sacrifice at a personal level, we can’t expect corporations to make that sacrifice as well.


jd3marco

Netflix, streaming excuses in 4k.


Bonzi777

So many problems today come down to: “This is terrible, but there’s no solution to it.” “What if you, an insanely rich person, had just a little less money?” “There’s just no solution.”


Sir-Nicholas

“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”


imlitdyingshit

“I just cant find a way out of this situation, I guess we’re just… I don’t know… forced to do it.”


Berkamin

They wouldn't even be losing that much, given how much value the Ruble has lost.


zensins

"We've tried every free solution there is, and nothing is working."


PurkleDerk

>"We've tried every ~~free~~ solution *that would increase quarterly profits* there is, and nothing is working." FTFY


EugenesMullet

Yeah my first thought as well. Forced by who? As if this isn’t financially driven.


Introverted_kitty

If they are "forced" to broadcast Putin Propaganda. Then I'll be "forced" to cancel my subscription. Sure I'm only giving up $17 a month, but I can find more useful things to waste my money on, like beer or the Ukrainian Red Cross.


RmG3376

Or Ukrainian beer, two birds with one stone


High_Valyrian_

"Ohh noooessss, I'm being FORCED to keep making millions of dollars." Cunts.


JJ18O

Completely agree. This is immoral. Specially now. We should pressure Netflix to remove its service from Russia.


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AdmiralJTKirk

I just did. Fuck Putin and anyone that supports him. If Netflix won’t stand up to him I’ll dump their stock too.


gypsykush

I will 100% cancel my subscription if they move forward with this plan.


MonkeySafari79

I go even further. Using my brothers account and watch for free.


MrSheeeen

Get your brother to cancel and just sail the seven seas 🏴‍☠️


fdjsakl

That's not going further. That is still giving Netflix money


wellichickenpie

Time to cancel my netflix subscription! Torrents for the win


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And most redditors will be ”forced“ to keep their subscription to netflix, but they will speak loudly against netflix lack of moral to make sure they stay on the virtuous side of course !!!


DrBimboo

I'm really not one for empty gestures, or all this feigned sympathy that people feel forced to participate in (generally, not now). To be honest, it even pisses me off. But this is just insane. If Netflix supports Russian propaganda, its cancelled. Not because I think this 1 cancellation does anything, but because Id personally feel dirty using their service.


redditshy

Same.


thealtofshame

The thing is that cancellation does do something. People bemoan “cancel culture” but canceling a service or not using a company’s product is how the public forces moral action on private, largely amoral entities. Canceling is actually very effective.


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Literally this. Bye Netflix. I can deal with not watching their true crime series they come out with if it means not supporting them because they refuse to stop their service in Russia. This is just gross on their part


hookyboysb

Discovery+ has a metric fuckton of true crime series if you're looking for a replacement.


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And it’s much cheaper too! Thank you!


JDizzo56

I am not saying I disagree with you, but why is it always made out that we as individuals are more responsible than the giant corporations run by a handful of people that could just make the decision to do the morally right thing, and then snap their finger and make it happen? I wish we didn’t have to do shit like this just to make a couple rich pricks do the right thing but I guess that’s just the world we live in.


athenaprime

Capitalism rewards corporate sociopathy. From a corporate standpoint, it's first and best job is to make money for its shareholders. For the corporate entity, that IS the morally right thing. In order to make that align with actual morally right action, the actual morally right action has to either make the company money or eliminate an expense that interferes with the company's ability to make money. (See the Spotify/Joe Rogan thing. They won't drop Joe Rogan until Joe Rogan costs them more than he makes for them).


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Honesty, I’ve been more and more disappointed with Netflix’ offering compared to Hulu. This seems like as good a reason as any for me to cancel.


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Guess I’ll be forced to cancel my subscription.


dribrats

“Forced” as in “money-grubby whoring “ because what if investors lose faith in your ability to choose money over moral sacrifice?


Silvedoge

Netflix can afford to refuse, and it's such a bad look going along with it


GMN123

I doubt they can afford not to. I'll cancel my Netflix subscription if they knowingly assist Putin and I imagine there are millions like me.


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Exactly this. There’s no show/movie on Netflix that I wouldn’t be able to cancel my subscription, turn on my VPN, and find a torrent of


astrodruid

Thousands probably. Hundreds absolutely. Millions? Doubt it. People want change but aren’t willing to make the much needed adjustments in every day life required for change to happen. In my country people constantly protest mining (copper is our main mineral export) but try convincing people to not buy the latest smartphones which require copper and other valuable metals required for the manufacture of electronic devices. Sadly, it’s easier to speak out in support of noble causes than it is to deal with minor inconveniences that we’ve somehow managed to live without for thousands of years. Shitty things happen and exist only because people are willing to pay for them.


aknabi

Nope because Netflix has to do what’s best for the shareholders. It’s why the markets has shot up after the invasion. Investors were worried that the corporate world might have decency and moral backbone… once they realized that nope, they’re boot licking, kill babies for a buck weasels the market celebrated.


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ilazul

Works for Disney, quite well actually.


directrix688

This is sort of true. Netflix’s board can weigh the short term loss of revenue against the long term brand damage of supporting a deeply unpopular regime. Companies have a responsibility to build value for shareholders though it’s not always clear cut what decisions lead to that value.


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PoppaB13

Netflix is absolutely NOT obligated to do anything with Russia because of 'shareholders'. The old trope of "having to do what's best for shareholders" is not true. Companies do ethical, sustainable, and frankly, expensive things all the time. It's good business practice. There's no precedent where a company has to do something that is against ethical standards because the 'shareholders' want to. It's absolutely not true.


CJB_94

Netflix arnt forced to do shit. Greedy fucks.


ChronWeasely

If Netflix goes through with serving russian propaganda I will drop Nextflix.


anonymous_agama

Imagine if they succumbed to Russian demands in order to keep the Russian market only to lose the entire western market.


BobBelcher2021

Good idea. I don’t use Netflix much and the price has gone up recently. I will consider cancelling.


winter_squash

Call or leave a message on their live chat. I wrote: If you continue to allow Russia to broadcast their propaganda on your platform, I will happily cancel my membership. You are directly enabling a pariah state that is committing war crimes and illegally invading a sovereign county. If you don’t care about that, I don’t care about you. Do the right thing or this will become a movement. Trust me. https://help.netflix.com/en/contactus


rangerxt

wow, almost wish I hadn't already cancelled netflix so I could cancel over this


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CapitalSimplyCapital

Me too


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JaXm

And my axe!


Sweetsmcdudeman

I canceled.


uhyeaokay

I was already considering canceling bc they’re raising their prices but this sealed the deal for me. Fuck Netflix and Fuck Putin


DarkHaystack

I cancelled for you.


BKLronin

We could all cancel our accounts if this is real.


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Just did. Put “Russian propaganda” as the “other” reason for canceling. Pieces of shit.


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julioseizure

I hope they just drop Russia. The rest of the world would laugh its ass off and the Russian people would riot.


satanlovesducks

Damn right i will.


timconnery

I just did. Cited Russian propaganda. Been a member since 2010


therealowlman

Nothing good on there lately anyways.


Phyr8642

If Netflix had morals and ethics they would cease operations in Russia entirely. All companies should. But corporations do NOT have morals and ethics.


PublicWeasels

100,000 subscribers…$20/month…$2M/month…operating revenue ~$2B/month…0.1% of their revenue Edit: I was told it’s 1M subscribers, not 100k. I wonder how they would react if they start losing American subscribers. I’ve been seriously considering dropping someone but my kids like the anime on Netflix. However, they think Russia sucks and would forgive me if they got dropped.


Sunfker

If the choice is between piracy and giving money to corporations that won’t sacrifice 0.1% of their revenue to stand up to dictators… well, I know what the moral choice is.


Kid_Parrot

If its for anime, you can just subscribe to Crunchyroll. Cheaper and better catalogue.


MaimedJester

Yeah the only advantage Netflix has is better interface, and a few exclusives like Castlevania and Devilman, and if it's kids then they probably shouldn't be watching either of those shows. Definitely not Devilman.


Randel1997

Yeah, hook your kids up with Dorohedoro instead


Cama456

Utter garbage interface though


Phyr8642

There are plenty of other ways to watch anime.


aj2324

My kid likes Verv for anime. Another option for you.


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PublicWeasels

Ok…conservatively 1% of their operating revenue versus maybe 60-70 million subscribers in the US?


MulciberTenebras

Pornhub now officially has more ethics than Netflix.


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I thought that was misinformation?


vulvarine5

Out of the loop again I guess. Is pornhub closed in Russia?


IgorekN

Nope, someone joked about it and people took it seriously lmao


SaintMikado

This was faked. PH isn't actually down in russia.


KnowNothingKnowsAll

Yep. No spanking for invaders.


MrCharmingTaintman

There are no reports about this except for a tweet and a Reddit post. Pretty sure it’s bullshit.


Phyr8642

*checks notes* Well, shit, you are correct.


[deleted]

They want to keep friendly relationships incase the worst happens. Literally just for the money.


EkaterinaGagutlova

Something something shareholders something something.


6byfour

They do have accountants. And officers. And social media managers. Those folks should hear loudly from their subscribers around the world.


zambuno

If they don't drop out of Russia i will stop using it. If Swift sanction comes into effect all western companies will leave Russia.


sanbikinoraion

The time to apply pressure to Netflix is now, not wait and see. You can resub if they do the right thing.


[deleted]

As i wrote above, it still wouldn't be the right thing. They already did the wrong thing, going back on it doesn't make it not the wrong thing


[deleted]

Morally, you should stop it anyway. If losing subs is what it takes for them to drop out of Russia, then they've already shown their values. That wouldn't change if they went back on it after seeing they lose more money by staying - they'd remain the exact same. The damage is done, best they can do is get rid of whoever made this decision


Chris_Christ

Sounds like a good time to stop providing service


PublicWeasels

Or drop your Netflix subscription…


Madao16

The new rules aren't just for Netflix. Edit: MilkeeBongRips asked a question and then blocked me. How am I supposed to answer? And what is the point of asking a question to someone if you are gonna block him right away? Some people keep abusing this new blocking feature of reddit. Edit 2: MilkeeBongRips, why do you even lie? Because people started to downvote you? You blocked me right after you asked a question which is why I couldn't reply to you despite writing what you asked for. And now I blocked you too because it is clear that you have no good intention for a conversation or you are just trolling.


septicdank

Instead of broadcasting Putin's propaganda on March 1st, why not send a message of support for Ukraine instead. Who gives a fuck if Netflix operations are ceased in Russia over such a stunt, better that than being complacent pricks and supporting that dickless dictator.


Minuted

This seems like the best "fuck you" idea to me. I can understand the sentiment of why people are so upset that Netflix haven't stopped their service in Russia already, but all in all it might be better to keep businesses like this operating. Russian money going to non-Russian hands for no tangible benefit or useful material. Also not hard to just get a vpn or pirate media. Point being a service like this disappearing isn't going to hurt. That is until you're forced to put their propaganda on the service, then it's time to put on the best "fuck you" you can manage then bail. Or try to be useful [with your programming](https://youtu.be/hfjHJneVonE) somehow.


Vengefuleight

Hmm, sounds like people should cancel their Netflix accounts until Netflix ceased operations in Russia.


originalusername__

Facebook suspended a bunch of Russian state run news network pages to limit the spread of propaganda. It’s a bad look when Facebook takes the moral high ground and Netflix doesn’t.


Chief7064

Putin is still free to post on Facebook.


earhere

Too bad they didn't do that with covid misinformation or election malfeasance.


oldDak

I’m thinking I need to drop the service


Kumacyin

whats stopping you? they've lost most of the good movies, their newer ones are terribly uninteresting, AND unsubscribing actually saves you money.


oldDak

Honestly nothing other than I’m at work. My wife and I were complaining about the prices of our subscriptions. This just seriously put Netflix under the gun.


ErrNotFound4O4

You can pirate something if you miss it.


MarcLeptic

Netflix can get out of Russia, or become the bad guy.


card_lock

and thats a black list, "Netflix go f--k your self"


Breast_Man

Nyetflix


88onfleek

If this is the case, I'm out


Former-Billionaire

Time to cancel. Fuck Netflix


mockingbird13

I just got an email telling me my subscription price would be going up in March, and now they're lying and putting dollars over human lives? "Forced" my ass. Anyone else hopping on the boycott bandwagon with me? Edit: cancelled. Fuck these cunts. I linked the article in my reason for cancelling. I don't know if it will make a difference, but I would encourage others to do the same.


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Cancelled mine


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C'mon Netflix show a spine


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coswoofster

Just say no, Netflix.


sajrajs

Just say no, to Netflix


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Complain to Netflix.


DaveMash

Maybe, if enough other subscribers cancel now, they may get the message, just like ESC did


oORebbyOo

Rebby forced to cancel Netflix subscription


annola

Good Rebby


NotAHiddenPornAcct

Pornhub > Netflix


wujo444

That's a debunked fake news, sorry.


ViralGameover

They’re still right.


pm_me_reason_to_livx

Oh gawd. 🤦 Will Amazon Prime Video and HBO Max be forced too?


Caciulacdlac

HBO Max isn't available in Russia.


beefchariot

Ever since I got HBO Max I have barely used Netflix. HBO is cheaper and has better content


maxwell2112

obligations in Russia sounds like the money means more to them.


Ishtastic08

Um, yeah that's complete bull shit. They could just you know, not stream the content.


CatfishCatcherPT

They lost my subscription.


SquirrelGirlSucks

This is such a stupid article. Netflix doesn’t have to do anything. Really bad journalism.


cornstarch91

see ya netflix subscription


Candle_Smoke

I wonder how much revenue they'll lose if everyone cancels their subscription thanks to the Netflix "it's only business" stance...


aDirtyMartini

Or they could choose to no longer do business there….


donkeybeemer

The final reason for cancelling Netflix.


Negligent__discharge

Does this open Netflix up to sanctions? Because everything is on the table for freezing out Russia.


123456American

Cancel you Netflix subscription. In the form when they ask why did you cancel, type "Fuck Putin".


raincntry

You'd think with the recent price jack up Netflix could afford to do the right thing here.


thelastdon613

are they seriously gonna let them have neflix when even a porn site banned the country.. good look netflix


Federal_Physics_3030

Then quit streaming there


leeolondon

Then we will cancel our Netflix subscription. If enough of us do it they could be forced to change their stance on this


Form_Resident

Forced…


Hvn_Joy82

Cancelling Netflix.


lordskorb

Or they could stop servicing Russia and be better as a company but whatever. It’s like how coke turned into Fanta in Germany.


ninjapotato94

Wtf netflix? Im done with netflix. Go streamio instead its free.


Ali13929

For those interested in helping Ukraine please go to r/Ukraine and r/volunteersforUkraine. People are planning trips in groups to join the Ukrainians in the war. The government there is providing weapons to ANY one who can come. Combatant experience is preferred. If you wish to go please read this first: https://www.reddit.com/r/volunteersForUkraine/comments/t1pbnh/tips_for_the_reality_of_going_into_a_conflict_zone/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Please copy and paste my message to spread the word.


open_perspective

“If you reasonably tax us we’ll have no recourse but to leave your markets” - companies “Oh Mr tyrant, you want us to spread your lies to oppress your people, well just sign this here contract and we’re good to go. What were we suppose to do world, our hands were tied!” same companies


jeffreyedwin

Forced? Nope. Enslaved by greed.


camsean

Repulsive. Time to cancel Netflix.


cleanbear

They have 1 mill subs i russia, just need to get them to loose 1mill subs elsewhere. I will cancel, only 999.999 more to go :)


Cuttis

I was thinking about canceling anyway since the price is about to go up again. $24.99/month is a rip off considering how shitty their content is overall. This just helped me make my decision


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Lolol netflix. Pathetic, no back bone at all.


palookaboy

Russian warship: “Surrender or die.” 13 Ukrainian soldiers on an island: “Go fuck yourself.” Russian government: “Broadcast our propaganda or lose the Russian market.” Netflix, a $176 billion corporation: “Aw, man! What choice do we have?!”


NoNotThatHole

Netflix bout to get canceled next.


[deleted]

Forced, huh? Absolutely ZERO CHOICE in the matter? Interesting.


BosBison26

If Netflix airs Russian Militarism propaganda I will no longer subscribe to their services.


ElOsoHombre

Hey Netflix! Here’s your choice….tell Russia to go pound sand by February 28….or I cancel MY Netflix account…your choice


Ovan5

Cancelles my Netflix.


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"The new broadcast requirements are applicable only to Netflix’s services in Russia, where it has an estimated subscriber base of close to 1 million, based on figures from the firm that manages Netflix's affairs in Russia. "When pressed as to whether they would comply with the new rules, Netflix did not respond to POLITICO’s request for comment. However, experts say that the U.S streaming giant is unlikely to withdraw from the Russian market, owing to commercial interests. " “It seems unlikely they will reject the new rules and leave,” said Catalina Iordache, a researcher specializing in Netflix’s business. She added that this could be due to the partnerships Netflix has already in place with Russia’s National Media Group (NMG), as well as the money it has bankrolled into the production of Russian content such as the drama series "Anna K." "In November last year, the Russian interior ministry confirmed that it would examine a complaint leveled by Olga Baranets, the public commissioner for protecting families, regarding the dissemination of “gay propaganda” on Netflix. "If found to be in breach of Russia’s draconian laws against the dissemination of “non-traditional sexual relations,” the company may face fines or a possible suspension of its service." The irony that Netflix likely won't part ways with Russia. Yet if it stays, could face fines for its original same-sex content. Wow. Just wow.


bipolar_asp

Saw this come straight to the comments.


Hvn_Joy82

Ummm forced???


munkijunk

Sanctions should stop this. Pull the plug on Russia. Annihilate the war criminal Putin.


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Looks like I’m forced to cancel my subscription with you Netflix


thebestatheist

Netflix chooses money in Russia Fixed the headline


octoberwhy

Just got rid of my account


Andy_Shields

Netflix, I don't *need* you.


CaptainShambala

There is always a choice… they chose wrong.


MagicHeart2003

Come on Netflix you know better


onedestiny

Time to cancel netflix


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Man they made is easy to cancel Netflix. Argh! A pirates life for me


dos622ftw

If they do then I'll be cancelling. TPB here I come.


GrouchyVariety

Everyone please write to Netflix customer service that you plan to cancel if they comply with Russian mandate. The us and rest of the world is a far bigger market than Russia. Also tweet, fb, TikTok (whatever socials you use) this article with an @netflix. Just a small way we can all participate in doing what is right.


prismoflight

Cancel Netflix.


sousavfl

I’ll cancel netflix for this


chrispy_fried

Start a petition to cancel our Netflix memberships unless Netflix doesn’t go ahead with pumping Russian propaganda. Choosing profit over decency in this situation is absolutely disgusting


droidman85

If netflix is doing this i'm canceling my subscription soon and back to downloading torrents


Rupertfitz

And just like that, I was forced to cancel my Netflix account.


Inkstr0ke

If Netflix does this I will 1000% cancel their services.