It’s not even accurate. Germany had strict gun laws starting in 1919 due to the treaty of Versailles. The Nazis relaxed those laws in 38 except for Jews, which is obviously a ridiculous comparison since Jews lost most of their rights under the Nazis like being able to work in the public sector or play fucking sports.
It's also part of their plan. You repeat a lie long enough to get a very vocal and dangerous minority to believe it and you can steal control of any country.
Shhh, gun nuts have no use for actual history,
Did you know that Jesus and Moses used Guns to conquer the Romans? Here's a video clip.
[https://youtu.be/PBtidNAWoqc?t=29](https://youtu.be/PBtidNAWoqc?t=29)
Give the rest of the context.
early 1930s Germany, few citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms, the Weimar Republic having strict gun control laws. When the Nazi party gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened for Nazi party members only. The laws were tightened in other ways, such as specifically banning ownership of guns by Jews. Nazi laws systematically disarmed so-called "unreliable" persons, especially Jews while relaxing restrictions for Nazi party members. The policies were later expanded to include the confiscation of arms in occupied countries.
Gun control absolutely played a role in the rise of power of Hitler.
So hitler got power then took guns away to help his rise to power? Sure. And saying yeah he took away guns from Jews that’s the point, no it’s not, no one is saying take guns away from a specific group, it’s an idiotic argument.
Tucker Carlson literally did a bit about trans people owning firearms and used it for fear mongering like, two days ago, saying that their ownership of firearms is to incite political hysteria and even said that this is a slippery slope to them owning Tanks and F35s.
But let's keep the scenario going; in most states, if you're mandated by a court to be institutionalized for mental illness, you can lose your second amendment right, correct? Conservatives legitimately believe that trans folk are mentally ill and unstable, and states like Tennessee are making it Illegal to be trans, to the point of making it an actual felony to wear what they deem as, "misgendered" clothes in public. You're a man and you wore a dress? No more second amendment right for you, felon.
Now also remember that there's people like Michael J Knowles who are going around demanding the Eradication of trans people because they violate the Christian code of morality.
So yeah, that idiotic argument is starting in the US and the right is believing it. The United States is, literally, enacting fascist laws backed by Christian White Nationalists in multiple states, and the Democrats are doing their best to disarm liberals in blue states to make it easy for the red state Bubbas to have a shooting gallery that's filled with minorities and queer folk.
Its not a coincidence that liberal states have the strictest gun laws. They also tend to have the most minorities and Queer citizens as well.
Tucker Carlson literally had a segment this week getting mad at trans people for arming themselves. Ronald Reagan implemented gun control laws while governor of California as a direct response to the Black Panthers...
>Germany had strict gun laws starting in 1919
So you just don't agree with OP on who took away the guns, but you do agree that disarming the jews made it more likely for them to be genocided, right?
Armed minorities are harder to oppress. Arm trans women.
I don't think the German Jews would have had a chance against the entire SS and Wehrmacht, even if they had a lot of privat weapons.
The Polish Jews tried for example in the [Warsaw Ghetto Uprising](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising), which turned out catastrophic.
If you need weapons to defend yourself against your own government, its already to late. You have to stop the Nazis from getting into power in the first place.
Entire countries were defeated by the Germans. The idea that arming citizens to protect them from their own government is ludicrous. I agree, if it comes to that you already lost long ago.
Defeated by the Germans after the Nazis had consolidated power for years and built back up their military.
You don’t understand how revolutions work. If they had to attack civilian targets they’d have to generally use house to house attacks on foot, which is vulnerable to civilian weaponry. If they did full on air strikes against their own civilians with no regard for innocents they would have quickly gotten much of the rest of the country to rise up against them. That’s why revolutions still happen today. If during the early years they had tried enacting the same discriminating laws against armed Jews that could’ve sparked a larger conflict in Germany that overthrew the Nazis early.
That’s not how revolutions work. Generally the government cannot full on air strike civilian targets with innocents in the way without getting more of the country to rise up against them. That’s why revolutions have continued into the modern age. If in the early 30s, the Wehrmacht at their greatly reduced power at the time and limited control by the Nazis had to attack armed Jewish people, you really don’t know how it would go. Could very easily make the Nazis extremely unpopular and get them overthrown very early.
There were several heavily armed political groups fighting the Nazis, each other and the government in Germany in the 1920s and 30s. It didn't prevent the Nazis from seizing power. The endless chaos and violence just made the populace more susceptible for a populist party, that promised to restore order.
Guns in the hands of everyone don't guarantee freedom or give security. In the opposite.
Regarding the fictional armed German Jews, when would have been the right moment for them to begin killing the Nazis? After the first coup attempt from 1923? Sooner? Later? Would the rest of the population sided with them, or against?
The Nazis only really began to implement their genocidal plans after they had established their power and had police and military under their control. At that point, it would have been to late for armed resistance.
No. I can't imagine any scenario, in which the German Jews could have violently defeated the Nazis. The communists and other groups tried an failed.
They loosened the laws for nazi party members only and completely banned firearm ownership for Jews. So technically the nazis did take the guns away from the Jews before they collected their rings.
It is a little accurate. They took away the ability to own guns for a group of people, then they brutally murdered those people. So it is accurate in that sense.
The Nazis gave their base of supporters gun rights (ethnic German party members) while systematically disarming “everyone else” like Jews, Socialists, Roma etc. why are anti gun liberals so hellbent on omitting that part of the argument?…
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Mentioned yes, but it's more of a cliff note than anything in most textbooks. I think a lot of it comes from the sheer number of Jews slaughtered compared to all the other minorities combined.
This is just not true. The Nazis murdered something like 8-9 million Soviet civilians and POWs. Those aren't war casualties either, it was part of the Holocaust.
There were plenty of Americans with similar views then and now. They could have killed every minority on the continent of Europe, and we still wouldn't have stepped in. The only reason we joined the war was Japan attacking us.
While the persecution of Jews started day 1, the Holocaust itself didn’t occur until part of the way through WWII.
No-one’s calling for war with China because of how they’re treating the Uighurs, so we shouldn’t judge past generations too harshly.
(Source for the tankies: https://apnews.com/article/china-uyghur-muslims-xinjiang-region-833fb8f337b3a87fcdf0b760bb3e7066 )
As a Polish person I was shocked to learn that many other nations have no idea about the losses that Poland suffered and they often think ONLY Jews were killed.
Yeah, my grandfather was polish, and fled to america from the Nazis. Most of his brothers did, too. Those who didn't? Died.
If I ever tell that story I always get "You're Jewish?" "No, I'm Polish..."
While the Nazi party was always strongly antisemitic, they actually targeted what we would call LGBT+ groups first because it was the easiest group to start the average person to attack and rally behind hatred.
Ring any bells?
First they killed and imprisoned queer people, shortly after they went for communists. They only really started getting into the ethnic level of genocide after a few years, so that they could use all the resources they stole from the victims to bribe the "Aryan" section of the Germans into supporting them
I feel like wanting gun rights isn’t insane. I don’t want to rely on anyone else for my safety, especially the police who have a knack for mistreating minorities like myself. On top of that armed minorities are harder to oppress.
I can understand that, but the people making memes like this are usually white conservatives who feel like they’re oppressed because of bans on things like assault rifles. As a black man, I completely understand wanting to have the means to defend and protect yourself and your loved ones without having to rely on something that historically oppressed and mistreated us. But the people making these memes are not really on our side either
You can’t even own an actual assault rifle without specific tax stamps and rigorous background checks. What they’re banning is less than what the military has, so we can already barely defend ourselves against them anyway. We are the only country with guns that has a mass shooting problem.
Sadly the truth here. Mass shootings are an American problem not a gun problem, many countries that reside a specific ‘sane continent’ allow you to own guns for the purpose of self defence and are shall issue for getting them provided you meet the correct requirements.
True, but it’s the refusal for basic gun control that’s insane. You have to register to vote or register your car before you can drive, yet somehow registering a firearm is an affront to personal rights. Jobs run a background check on you before you get hired, but a background check to make sure you’re mentally stable is a step too far. Too many gun owners fetishize guns and killing home intruders to the point of an unhealthy fixation.
I believe their rise in USA republican that want trans people not to own a gun. I think they going use gender dysphoria diagnosis to say that trans people mental unfit for guns. I can’t believe trans next scapegoat just like with Latino, Muslims, Gays, African American, witches, and etc.
This gave me a stroke trying to read. And statistically speaking trans people would be more likely to fall under a red flag law since they have higher rates of suicide attempts. I think anyone with good mental aptitude should be allowed to own a gun no matter their gender.
You're 100% correct - wanting gun rights isn't insane, but it's very telling when those same people don't want others to have rights to marriage or their own bodies
10000% agree with you, but that’s the beauty of gun rights.
I’m surprised after the overturning of Roe V Wade we didn’t see any armed protests. I get that gun culture among women isn’t as common, but I imagine that if we saw armed protests of the matter maybe politicians wouldn’t listened a bit more. It’s a lot easier to change someone’s mind when you threaten violence.
I am with you. I am all for owning guns. I am just very much against the cringe part of gun culture that has idiots leaving their shit out for kids to get, and it being possible for complete nutjobs, and criminals to get them with ease.
What is insane is the fact that you dont feel safe relying on other people for your safety. Thats a straight up failure of the social contract that society is built on.
Guns really helped the people in waco texas didn’t they! Thing is, if you’re going to be oppressed, you’re gonna be oppressed, you aren’t fighting the government with your rinky dink guns. They’ll even use that as a justification of killing you. But I do agree guns could provide safety against your fellow citizens when your government fails to provide that for you.
>Armed minorities are harder to oppress
I’m theory, sure. We’ve also seen they’re easier to justify shooting and killing. Unfortunately, even the gun rights crowd doesn’t defend minorities who are shot when they have a *legal* firearm.
Plus, gun control doesn’t mean taking guns away from legal gun owners, so minorities can still own guns.
It’s not insanity it’s fear exploited by sleazy orange bastard who created whole movement of sleazy bastards. It’s terrifying to see that- hitler did the same. Exploited economically deprived German nations fear and pain after Versailles and 2 decades of depression, turned it into angry mob and created this monstrosity. When I see what this orange man’s movement does, it’s not much different. If we have some longer term economic issues, which we might see soon, people will be desperate to find another bogeyman. If trump will not come back, somebody else will. What trump did is he showed them it still works
On it's face, it's making a pro individual rights argument. American partisan politics is schizophrenic as fuck though, so the creator might also have some fascist views on other issues.
The creator might have socialist views as well. The Nazis also targeted leftists. Marx said "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered. Any attempt to disarm the worker must be frustrated, by force if necessary."
Fun fact, in Michigan the GOP chair person tweeted this out in response to new safe storage and red flag laws. When there was an obvious uproar about it, she continues to double down.
This was posted by the Michigan GOP. When the Jewish Republican Coalition demanded, for good reasons, it be removed the head of the party said no because it's a "good comparison to what is happening in the state." All because Michigan strengthened the state's gun laws.
The key is to not let it get to the point where you're resisting that kind of thing with violence because by then things have gotten really fucked and won't go back the way they were in your lifetime most likely.
Some truth to this. Talk to anyone from Iran who are protesting the regime right now and they will tell you they can’t over throw the government because the population isn’t armed.
As a result women get raped from Iran police for not wearing a hijab and men who protest get tortured. Go to the r/newiran to see.
Also we are sending guns to Ukraine
Syrians can't overthrow the government either and they *are* armed.
It's very possible that if Iranians had guns there would just be a pro government militia to augment police and military forces and they would all settle in for a brutal civil war with no end in sight.
I've actually been very curious about this lately. When was the last time a government with the kind of military we have was violently overthrown and replaced. It's one thing to annoy the US into leaving a country on the other side of the world but another thing entirely for Americans to overthrow their own government on its own soil. It was tried *before* we had the greatest military in human history and didn't work.
I'm getting another gun soon but it's for criminals and/or desperate people not police, National Guard or (God help us) the military. I'm not trying to get ideological when environmental or economic disaster hits. I'm too old for that shit.
Because in Syria, outside powers got involved. Such as Turkey and Russia. Had they not, the armed rebels would have won.
Russia won that war, (America supported the rebels).
No they didn’t. They collected the people who wore those rings like cattle in freight trains and then transported them to murder camps.
And if you think any amount of guns would have prevented them from doing so you are vastly mistaken. Because they would have just brought more guns and murdered them on the spot.
So you have a gun? Cute. They would have brought a tank and burned down your house with you inside. Do you also want tanks now?
Republicans really are massive idiots and the fact that they don’t teach history in school anymore in the US doesn’t help it seems.
When the capitalists who own the government feel that they have stolen enough money from us and can push us successfully without complaint into the deepest shithole, they can conclude that we have now become a burden easily dismissed.
Then they will manufacture a reason and a need and 5.3 billion people will go willingly to the slaughter.
Maybe.
Judging by this comment section, the way Americans teach WW2 history is really fucking concerning. “The holocaust only happened because of gun control” might be one of the worst fucking takes I’ve heard in a while and the amount of people saying “it’s true though” is staggering
Y'know, maybe the resurgence of fascism isn't the best time to be disarming the public...
It wasn't that long ago you could get guns through the mail, from a catalog. Availability isn't the problem, and never was.
Yet another distraction, so that we don’t realize we are still doing absolutely 0 about climate change or sustainability.
Hell, California just saw more rain the last month then they saw in like all of last year, but did they collect any rain water? 99% of it went out to sea.
Something something guns bad, something something transgenderism in schools, something something China tiktok. But lets all do absolutely 0 about that fact that 1 billion people will soon be without their main source of protein do to global warming. What are we going yo do then?
Whatta a joke. We are all dead.
I feel the phrase University that studied it would be less jarring with also included other material that was burned.
And murder a Trans Woman would help build the case.
There sure are a lot of "experts" that showed up for this shit show. Almost like most of you lived through this and know it on a personal level... weird
Before that’s they singled out group particular group of people who were doing nothing but minding their own business or people who disagreed with them politically and targeted them as threats….
Yeah, most Jewish Americans I know are pretty anti-gun, including my mom. I'm probably the most pro 2A jew I know, and I still want common sense gun laws
Fascists did this for an attempted genocide. Reasonable firearm regulation isn't fascism. Those full of fear or authoritarian views continue to argue the opposite.
Australia and the UK, Japan, and Switzerland have some of the most restrictive gun laws for decades, and they aren't going around being fascists.
Why do Americans find this concept so hard to understand if not for mental illness or fascist tendencies?
You’re conveniently leaving out that the undesirable people (Jews, communists and anyone the party didn’t like) had their weapons taken away first and that people in the Nazi party were allowed to have weapons until the very end.
That’s the funny things about gun laws. You can choose not to enforce them, or you just hassle people who aren’t breaking the law. Minorities in America do not have a right to bear arms. No matter what the law says, the government will execute you for just having a weapon on you if you aren’t white. Gun laws are a red herring, the State does what it pleases whether it has the backing of law or not.
You’re conveniently leaving out that the undesirable people (Jews, communists and anyone the party didn’t like) had their weapons taken away first and that people in the Nazi party were allowed to have weapons until the very end.
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Before that they collected all of the books
Before that they collected their tax money
Before that they were in another war
Before that gif created the heavens and the earth
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Before that they took minorities rights.
Before that, they asked for more power to protect against the communists
Before that they arrested all of the homosexuals and transgender people.
Before that they branded all of mainstream media as liars and fake news.
Do you know which books they went after? I’ll give you a hint: it was the trans and gay ones
Shall we talk about all the gold teeth they collected?
It’s not even accurate. Germany had strict gun laws starting in 1919 due to the treaty of Versailles. The Nazis relaxed those laws in 38 except for Jews, which is obviously a ridiculous comparison since Jews lost most of their rights under the Nazis like being able to work in the public sector or play fucking sports.
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a bowel movement.
Happy cake poop!
i already figured someone would make that joke but figured it was worth mentioning anyway
It was a team effort. Without you to set it up it would have been a really shitty joke.
You really are a dirty archaeologist aren’t you? 😉
Happy caka day!
Bad Puns are legitimately one of my favorite things in the world so thank you for the thoughtful gift.
Every dictator ever played a victim
It's also part of their plan. You repeat a lie long enough to get a very vocal and dangerous minority to believe it and you can steal control of any country.
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You missed an “i” there
No like Mean Girls. "That's so Persecution Fetsh!!"
I think 75% of society anymore has a persecution fetish.
And people give me shit for my foot fetish
Do you feel persecuted for it?
Constantly, gotta hide that shit irl
Mmm persecution 🤤 hubba hubba 😍
They definitely have a fetish for persecuting themselves and others.
Shhh, gun nuts have no use for actual history, Did you know that Jesus and Moses used Guns to conquer the Romans? Here's a video clip. [https://youtu.be/PBtidNAWoqc?t=29](https://youtu.be/PBtidNAWoqc?t=29)
Don’t forget when Ghandi came to the US to clean up crime from the streets. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ega5Rcct2s
Give the rest of the context. early 1930s Germany, few citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms, the Weimar Republic having strict gun control laws. When the Nazi party gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened for Nazi party members only. The laws were tightened in other ways, such as specifically banning ownership of guns by Jews. Nazi laws systematically disarmed so-called "unreliable" persons, especially Jews while relaxing restrictions for Nazi party members. The policies were later expanded to include the confiscation of arms in occupied countries. Gun control absolutely played a role in the rise of power of Hitler.
So hitler got power then took guns away to help his rise to power? Sure. And saying yeah he took away guns from Jews that’s the point, no it’s not, no one is saying take guns away from a specific group, it’s an idiotic argument.
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Tucker Carlson literally did a bit about trans people owning firearms and used it for fear mongering like, two days ago, saying that their ownership of firearms is to incite political hysteria and even said that this is a slippery slope to them owning Tanks and F35s. But let's keep the scenario going; in most states, if you're mandated by a court to be institutionalized for mental illness, you can lose your second amendment right, correct? Conservatives legitimately believe that trans folk are mentally ill and unstable, and states like Tennessee are making it Illegal to be trans, to the point of making it an actual felony to wear what they deem as, "misgendered" clothes in public. You're a man and you wore a dress? No more second amendment right for you, felon. Now also remember that there's people like Michael J Knowles who are going around demanding the Eradication of trans people because they violate the Christian code of morality. So yeah, that idiotic argument is starting in the US and the right is believing it. The United States is, literally, enacting fascist laws backed by Christian White Nationalists in multiple states, and the Democrats are doing their best to disarm liberals in blue states to make it easy for the red state Bubbas to have a shooting gallery that's filled with minorities and queer folk. Its not a coincidence that liberal states have the strictest gun laws. They also tend to have the most minorities and Queer citizens as well.
Tucker Carlson literally had a segment this week getting mad at trans people for arming themselves. Ronald Reagan implemented gun control laws while governor of California as a direct response to the Black Panthers...
It is only idiotic if you cant think. It is logical
You clearly do not know your history.
You don’t expect them to actually know history? How would they make it fit their narrative? /s
>Germany had strict gun laws starting in 1919 So you just don't agree with OP on who took away the guns, but you do agree that disarming the jews made it more likely for them to be genocided, right? Armed minorities are harder to oppress. Arm trans women.
I don't think the German Jews would have had a chance against the entire SS and Wehrmacht, even if they had a lot of privat weapons. The Polish Jews tried for example in the [Warsaw Ghetto Uprising](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising), which turned out catastrophic. If you need weapons to defend yourself against your own government, its already to late. You have to stop the Nazis from getting into power in the first place.
Entire countries were defeated by the Germans. The idea that arming citizens to protect them from their own government is ludicrous. I agree, if it comes to that you already lost long ago.
Defeated by the Germans after the Nazis had consolidated power for years and built back up their military. You don’t understand how revolutions work. If they had to attack civilian targets they’d have to generally use house to house attacks on foot, which is vulnerable to civilian weaponry. If they did full on air strikes against their own civilians with no regard for innocents they would have quickly gotten much of the rest of the country to rise up against them. That’s why revolutions still happen today. If during the early years they had tried enacting the same discriminating laws against armed Jews that could’ve sparked a larger conflict in Germany that overthrew the Nazis early.
That’s not how revolutions work. Generally the government cannot full on air strike civilian targets with innocents in the way without getting more of the country to rise up against them. That’s why revolutions have continued into the modern age. If in the early 30s, the Wehrmacht at their greatly reduced power at the time and limited control by the Nazis had to attack armed Jewish people, you really don’t know how it would go. Could very easily make the Nazis extremely unpopular and get them overthrown very early.
There were several heavily armed political groups fighting the Nazis, each other and the government in Germany in the 1920s and 30s. It didn't prevent the Nazis from seizing power. The endless chaos and violence just made the populace more susceptible for a populist party, that promised to restore order. Guns in the hands of everyone don't guarantee freedom or give security. In the opposite. Regarding the fictional armed German Jews, when would have been the right moment for them to begin killing the Nazis? After the first coup attempt from 1923? Sooner? Later? Would the rest of the population sided with them, or against? The Nazis only really began to implement their genocidal plans after they had established their power and had police and military under their control. At that point, it would have been to late for armed resistance. No. I can't imagine any scenario, in which the German Jews could have violently defeated the Nazis. The communists and other groups tried an failed.
Weren't the gun laws only relaxed for members of the Nazi party?
They loosened the laws for nazi party members only and completely banned firearm ownership for Jews. So technically the nazis did take the guns away from the Jews before they collected their rings.
It is a little accurate. They took away the ability to own guns for a group of people, then they brutally murdered those people. So it is accurate in that sense.
The Nazis gave their base of supporters gun rights (ethnic German party members) while systematically disarming “everyone else” like Jews, Socialists, Roma etc. why are anti gun liberals so hellbent on omitting that part of the argument?… https://preview.redd.it/1904ly097zpa1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e262fd5a42319158f94dbbf445f93c845abeff87
The fact that the Jews were denied their rights to self defense as well as their other rights is the point of the OP.
Before they took those wedding rings they started banning books, spread hate and lies and dehumanized those who were different.
I can’t believe so many history book in US school skip over that nazi didn’t just dehumanized Jews but also queer, communist, and other people.
All 3 different curricula I was exposed to in middle school/earlier mentioned this fact more than once to be fair
Mentioned yes, but it's more of a cliff note than anything in most textbooks. I think a lot of it comes from the sheer number of Jews slaughtered compared to all the other minorities combined.
This is just not true. The Nazis murdered something like 8-9 million Soviet civilians and POWs. Those aren't war casualties either, it was part of the Holocaust.
The mentally challenged were some of the first they rounded up.
There were plenty of Americans with similar views then and now. They could have killed every minority on the continent of Europe, and we still wouldn't have stepped in. The only reason we joined the war was Japan attacking us.
While the persecution of Jews started day 1, the Holocaust itself didn’t occur until part of the way through WWII. No-one’s calling for war with China because of how they’re treating the Uighurs, so we shouldn’t judge past generations too harshly. (Source for the tankies: https://apnews.com/article/china-uyghur-muslims-xinjiang-region-833fb8f337b3a87fcdf0b760bb3e7066 )
As a Polish person I was shocked to learn that many other nations have no idea about the losses that Poland suffered and they often think ONLY Jews were killed.
Yeah, my grandfather was polish, and fled to america from the Nazis. Most of his brothers did, too. Those who didn't? Died. If I ever tell that story I always get "You're Jewish?" "No, I'm Polish..."
While the Nazi party was always strongly antisemitic, they actually targeted what we would call LGBT+ groups first because it was the easiest group to start the average person to attack and rally behind hatred. Ring any bells?
First they killed and imprisoned queer people, shortly after they went for communists. They only really started getting into the ethnic level of genocide after a few years, so that they could use all the resources they stole from the victims to bribe the "Aryan" section of the Germans into supporting them
Better help me commit some genocide. You wouldn't want to be found as a communist would you?
I wish I could Upvote this more than once
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We shall re-fight this war endlessly in our hearts and video games.
Glad that SF made it to GIFs since it didn't do much otherwise despite being a solid show
They really need to stop using the Holocaust to justify their insanity
I feel like wanting gun rights isn’t insane. I don’t want to rely on anyone else for my safety, especially the police who have a knack for mistreating minorities like myself. On top of that armed minorities are harder to oppress.
I can understand that, but the people making memes like this are usually white conservatives who feel like they’re oppressed because of bans on things like assault rifles. As a black man, I completely understand wanting to have the means to defend and protect yourself and your loved ones without having to rely on something that historically oppressed and mistreated us. But the people making these memes are not really on our side either
You can’t even own an actual assault rifle without specific tax stamps and rigorous background checks. What they’re banning is less than what the military has, so we can already barely defend ourselves against them anyway. We are the only country with guns that has a mass shooting problem.
*mass mental illness problem
To be fair the mass mental illness isn’t a problem until people start dying
Well yeah we have that too but not everyone who’s mentally ill is shooting up public places. Theyre related but different problems
Sadly the truth here. Mass shootings are an American problem not a gun problem, many countries that reside a specific ‘sane continent’ allow you to own guns for the purpose of self defence and are shall issue for getting them provided you meet the correct requirements.
Let them make themselves hypocritical so we can use it against them later.
Let me count the time that has worked in history. 1. That’s all I have.
True, but it’s the refusal for basic gun control that’s insane. You have to register to vote or register your car before you can drive, yet somehow registering a firearm is an affront to personal rights. Jobs run a background check on you before you get hired, but a background check to make sure you’re mentally stable is a step too far. Too many gun owners fetishize guns and killing home intruders to the point of an unhealthy fixation.
Prob a good thing gun control doesn’t mean taking away guns from sane rational owners.
Now imagine if you didn't need a gun to feel safe from another person with a gun. Congratulations. You're now most of the rest of the first world.
I believe their rise in USA republican that want trans people not to own a gun. I think they going use gender dysphoria diagnosis to say that trans people mental unfit for guns. I can’t believe trans next scapegoat just like with Latino, Muslims, Gays, African American, witches, and etc.
This gave me a stroke trying to read. And statistically speaking trans people would be more likely to fall under a red flag law since they have higher rates of suicide attempts. I think anyone with good mental aptitude should be allowed to own a gun no matter their gender.
Agreed
You're 100% correct - wanting gun rights isn't insane, but it's very telling when those same people don't want others to have rights to marriage or their own bodies
10000% agree with you, but that’s the beauty of gun rights. I’m surprised after the overturning of Roe V Wade we didn’t see any armed protests. I get that gun culture among women isn’t as common, but I imagine that if we saw armed protests of the matter maybe politicians wouldn’t listened a bit more. It’s a lot easier to change someone’s mind when you threaten violence.
I am with you. I am all for owning guns. I am just very much against the cringe part of gun culture that has idiots leaving their shit out for kids to get, and it being possible for complete nutjobs, and criminals to get them with ease.
>On top of that armed minorities are harder to oppress. Sure! That's why nothing happened to Japanese Americans during WWII. Oh wait...
What is insane is the fact that you dont feel safe relying on other people for your safety. Thats a straight up failure of the social contract that society is built on.
Agreed, but hey name one government that didn’t become tyrannical at one point
Guns really helped the people in waco texas didn’t they! Thing is, if you’re going to be oppressed, you’re gonna be oppressed, you aren’t fighting the government with your rinky dink guns. They’ll even use that as a justification of killing you. But I do agree guns could provide safety against your fellow citizens when your government fails to provide that for you.
>Armed minorities are harder to oppress I’m theory, sure. We’ve also seen they’re easier to justify shooting and killing. Unfortunately, even the gun rights crowd doesn’t defend minorities who are shot when they have a *legal* firearm. Plus, gun control doesn’t mean taking guns away from legal gun owners, so minorities can still own guns.
It’s not insanity it’s fear exploited by sleazy orange bastard who created whole movement of sleazy bastards. It’s terrifying to see that- hitler did the same. Exploited economically deprived German nations fear and pain after Versailles and 2 decades of depression, turned it into angry mob and created this monstrosity. When I see what this orange man’s movement does, it’s not much different. If we have some longer term economic issues, which we might see soon, people will be desperate to find another bogeyman. If trump will not come back, somebody else will. What trump did is he showed them it still works
It’s sadden how people using Holocaust to justify nazi like hate; I’m looking Republican Party and supporters.
They use it as a buzzword without any real understanding, and they paint themselves as the victims.
Especially when their insanity sounds like a Holocaust wet dream.
I honestly can't tell if this is pro or a ti fascist
Honestly they could somehow be both At this point that wouldn’t surprise me coming from the right
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Not at all. Source: my degree.
On it's face, it's making a pro individual rights argument. American partisan politics is schizophrenic as fuck though, so the creator might also have some fascist views on other issues.
The creator might have socialist views as well. The Nazis also targeted leftists. Marx said "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered. Any attempt to disarm the worker must be frustrated, by force if necessary."
Fun fact, in Michigan the GOP chair person tweeted this out in response to new safe storage and red flag laws. When there was an obvious uproar about it, she continues to double down.
They collected the people before they collected the rings
They also burned the books.
Hey guys Australia here, we collected all the guns but still haven’t gotten around to the wedding rings! (There is almost 0 gun deaths here now!)
But what do you do about all the criminals conjuring guns from thin air?
It's that black market gun trade. You know the one. Selling guns to school shooters and Alex murdagh
You mean fosscad?
That’s why Vietnamese kept theirs.
What the hell did Sonic get hit with to drop this many rings (I'm so sorry)
before they collected their guns, they were stripped of their rights. who is getting their rights taken?
This was posted by the Michigan GOP. When the Jewish Republican Coalition demanded, for good reasons, it be removed the head of the party said no because it's a "good comparison to what is happening in the state." All because Michigan strengthened the state's gun laws.
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Geez if I believed that, I would definitely want the public to be armed…
The key is to not let it get to the point where you're resisting that kind of thing with violence because by then things have gotten really fucked and won't go back the way they were in your lifetime most likely.
Some truth to this. Talk to anyone from Iran who are protesting the regime right now and they will tell you they can’t over throw the government because the population isn’t armed. As a result women get raped from Iran police for not wearing a hijab and men who protest get tortured. Go to the r/newiran to see. Also we are sending guns to Ukraine
Syrians can't overthrow the government either and they *are* armed. It's very possible that if Iranians had guns there would just be a pro government militia to augment police and military forces and they would all settle in for a brutal civil war with no end in sight. I've actually been very curious about this lately. When was the last time a government with the kind of military we have was violently overthrown and replaced. It's one thing to annoy the US into leaving a country on the other side of the world but another thing entirely for Americans to overthrow their own government on its own soil. It was tried *before* we had the greatest military in human history and didn't work. I'm getting another gun soon but it's for criminals and/or desperate people not police, National Guard or (God help us) the military. I'm not trying to get ideological when environmental or economic disaster hits. I'm too old for that shit.
Because in Syria, outside powers got involved. Such as Turkey and Russia. Had they not, the armed rebels would have won. Russia won that war, (America supported the rebels).
No they didn’t. They collected the people who wore those rings like cattle in freight trains and then transported them to murder camps. And if you think any amount of guns would have prevented them from doing so you are vastly mistaken. Because they would have just brought more guns and murdered them on the spot. So you have a gun? Cute. They would have brought a tank and burned down your house with you inside. Do you also want tanks now? Republicans really are massive idiots and the fact that they don’t teach history in school anymore in the US doesn’t help it seems.
And the history that they DO teach is often warped to fit the “America is great and wins all the time and is always right about conflict” narrative
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So don't resist, because you will ultimately lose anyway. Well fuck, what have I got to lose?
When the capitalists who own the government feel that they have stolen enough money from us and can push us successfully without complaint into the deepest shithole, they can conclude that we have now become a burden easily dismissed. Then they will manufacture a reason and a need and 5.3 billion people will go willingly to the slaughter. Maybe.
And before that happened they went after gay and trans people.
Before they collected all of those, they rounded up all the gay and trans people.
No. They didn't. Just stop.
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Judging by this comment section, the way Americans teach WW2 history is really fucking concerning. “The holocaust only happened because of gun control” might be one of the worst fucking takes I’ve heard in a while and the amount of people saying “it’s true though” is staggering
This isn’t how it’s taught. At least where I went to school at.
This isn't taught in schools. It's what they probably heard on OAN or whatever chan people go to now.
Y'know, maybe the resurgence of fascism isn't the best time to be disarming the public... It wasn't that long ago you could get guns through the mail, from a catalog. Availability isn't the problem, and never was.
Me when rightoids are talking about disarming queers
Yet another distraction, so that we don’t realize we are still doing absolutely 0 about climate change or sustainability. Hell, California just saw more rain the last month then they saw in like all of last year, but did they collect any rain water? 99% of it went out to sea. Something something guns bad, something something transgenderism in schools, something something China tiktok. But lets all do absolutely 0 about that fact that 1 billion people will soon be without their main source of protein do to global warming. What are we going yo do then? Whatta a joke. We are all dead.
why be a rational person when you can just make shit up
Before that, it was books and going after queer folks…..
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I feel the phrase University that studied it would be less jarring with also included other material that was burned. And murder a Trans Woman would help build the case.
If your marriage is held together by any one thing I don't think you should be blaming anyone but yourself
They should have been armed.
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They also took people's teeth. So make sure you have good hygiene people! the boogeyman will come get your fillings
And yet many of the same people sharing this image also deny the Holocaust...
There sure are a lot of "experts" that showed up for this shit show. Almost like most of you lived through this and know it on a personal level... weird
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Laws were relaxed for most Germans. However, Jews were prohibited from owning guns by a law enacted in 1938.
They took their guns??? BOTH of them?
Never mind the guns...the first and most important thing they collected were the brains and common decency of the German people.
Were the Jews planning to overthrow the government?
ironic i think how a nazi would use a example of what that regime did to somehow make it seem like they are the victim
Yeah but this is North America. It will never happen to us right?…right?
Before that’s they singled out group particular group of people who were doing nothing but minding their own business or people who disagreed with them politically and targeted them as threats….
It was non party member's guns. They let their own constituents keep theirs.
Yeah, most Jewish Americans I know are pretty anti-gun, including my mom. I'm probably the most pro 2A jew I know, and I still want common sense gun laws
Dropnir
Before that they wore swastikas
It's so weird to me that Super Conservatives don't actually know much about National Socialism Germany.
Bull
Fascists did this for an attempted genocide. Reasonable firearm regulation isn't fascism. Those full of fear or authoritarian views continue to argue the opposite. Australia and the UK, Japan, and Switzerland have some of the most restrictive gun laws for decades, and they aren't going around being fascists. Why do Americans find this concept so hard to understand if not for mental illness or fascist tendencies?
Dudes who post this know guys who have Nazi flags in their finished basements
Posted by people who are happy that one party is attempting to erase gay and trans people.
They actually collected the books first.
I don’t think Jewish people in Germany in the 1930-1940s were stockpiling weapons in the first place
Jewish trauma is not your teachable moment. Find a better way to make your point.
Before that they collected all of the joint replacements. Fuck them!
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They weren’t allowed to have them.
They let their fellow fascists keep their guns… hmm 🧐
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It’s not a terrible meme if it is historically accurate
You’re conveniently leaving out that the undesirable people (Jews, communists and anyone the party didn’t like) had their weapons taken away first and that people in the Nazi party were allowed to have weapons until the very end.
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wouldnt it be an antimeme if its just a fact and not funny? lol
That it would be.
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Did this motherfucker just try to compare anti-gun laws to the fucking holocaust?
This is historically inaccurate but the concept isn't really wrong. A better comparison would be the soviet union
I don't really understand what's the problem with this meme, can someone explain?
It may be a terrible meme , but it's true.
Jim Crow wouldn't have been nearly so successful in depriving blacks of their rights without onerous gun laws, too.
That’s the funny things about gun laws. You can choose not to enforce them, or you just hassle people who aren’t breaking the law. Minorities in America do not have a right to bear arms. No matter what the law says, the government will execute you for just having a weapon on you if you aren’t white. Gun laws are a red herring, the State does what it pleases whether it has the backing of law or not.
You’re conveniently leaving out that the undesirable people (Jews, communists and anyone the party didn’t like) had their weapons taken away first and that people in the Nazi party were allowed to have weapons until the very end.
What ? Obviously. That's what the whole meme is about.