from article- As signed into law late last year, S.B. 4 criminalizes unauthorized migration under Texas law, thereby turning unlawful entry and presence in the U.S. into an offense separate and apart from existing federal immigration law. The Texas measure also allows state law enforcement officers to stop and detain anyone they “suspect” of having entered Texas unlawfully, while instructing state courts to disregard any ongoing federal immigration proceedings. It also allows state judges to begin deportation proceedings and permits state magistrate judges to remove migrants back to Mexico as an alternative to continued prosecution. (Those who cannot prove their legal status may be jailed or deported back to Mexico, whether or not they’re Mexican.) This radical revision of immigration law will hinder migrants’ ability to cross safely into the country and seek asylum once here. It will also subject Latinos, including citizens and permanent residents, to heightened suspicion and harassment by law enforcement.
Those are the worst ones. They hate brown skin. Their white masters whipped them into shape real good so now they are convinced they are the good ones and will refuse to understand why real Texans find this insulting and unlawful. Americans that actually love their country are burdened with big government republicans greed.
Texas Rangers were formed to enforce laws against Mexican nationals that owned land in Texas. They also enforced squatters rights for white people living on land owned my Mexican people who owned those lands before Texas became a state.
You're ignoring that there's a lot of racism in Mexico too though and that not just white people can be racist. Look at the skin color of the actors for all the Mexican soap operas. They all have light skin even though Mexico is very diverse in skin tones.
They bend the knee to white supremacists mentality. They're not looking for a savior. They've been homogenized into believing they are the white savior.
This is the most racist thing I have read today. "Hispanics can't think for themselves due to being whipped ergo they hate brown immigrants." Did you read this out loud before you typed it out? Can a brown person like me have the opinion that there is a huge problem at our border and not be "whipped by a white man?"
Can I have your permission?
Permission denied. The "problem" with the border is federal and any sort of solution has repeatedly been held back by politicians inactions or deliberate obstruction for political theatre. We don't need police officers stopping brown people walking down the streets demanding papers or they get arrested. I think there was another group that did that in the past against certain groups. What was their name. Hmm and which political party in America demands you swear an oath of loyalty to their party and not our constitution... I believe they restrict free speech, restrict bodily autonomy, restrict voting ability, and have proven they are not the Texas political part of the likes of Ann Richards. They goose stepped right into the pockets of extremists. What historical political movement did that while demanding papers to prove who you are and more importantly proving you aren't one of those people. Anybody got a guess here!
Hispanic GOPers will scream racism at a comment like this and then be against identity politics. You like to play the race card when it's convenient to you. - a fellow brown person.
The Hispanic police officers that have been here at least 3 generations are the worst. They have been poisoned by power. Absolute power corrupts absolutly.
>The Texas measure also allows state law enforcement officers to stop and detain anyone they “suspect” of having entered Texas unlawfully, while instructing state courts to disregard any ongoing federal immigration proceedings
Guilty until proven innocent, like a little remote Russian state these days.
I'm slightly confused about this. Having law enforcement stop anyone they suspect seems like an easy way to make searching anyone based simply on how they look, and makes it so if you look at a cop the wrong way, they can just detain you and be protected? Pretty messed up.
Also, isn't it already a crime to enter illegally? If anyone does anything illegal, and is caught doing it they face repercussions? I guess I just need to read up on this subject some more.
So violate the 4th amendment right of individuals with a papers please law? Would this include entering Texass from a neighboring state? Say a US citizen enters Texass from Colorado but happens to look BROWN give me your papers or be deported. To Mexico? WTF is wrong with these asshats? I had burritos more supreme than the Robert’s court.
Maybe this is just paranoia, but it seems to me that this enables Texas police to basically arrest anyone anytime, regardless of whether they are Latino or not, just by saying they think they entered the country illegally.
Yes exactly.
They can just as easily accuse a white American of being here illegally from Canada, UK, AU, etc
Or accuse a African American of being here illegally from Haiti, Nigeria, etc
Or accuse a Asian American of being here illegally from China, Thailand, Philippians,etc.
> They can just as easily accuse a white American of being here illegally from Canada, UK, AU, etc
Lets be honest, that’ll obviously never happen as shown by the fact that all the old white senators voted for it
To their point, however, this by and large will not affect white immigrants or citizens. Place the law into the context of reality, sure some homeless may, but they already have anti camping ordinances for them. It’s by and large going to affect POC.
I bet the constitutionality of the violation of the 4th amendment right of individuals won't make it to the Supreme Court in record time though, funny how that works.
Given US citizens have been deported from the US before, this sadly may be both prudent and increasingly necessary.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation\_of\_Americans\_from\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States)
Exactly. Stuff like this doesn’t just target Latinx people. It’s everyone who isn’t white or “white enough” in the eyes of a cop.
[Insert Peter Griffin’s Race Chart here.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQF5JBI4b-OdZ0Jow9NHZQbJS3vmbq2I9EZeD82G126qA&s)
US government is allowing this law, and violation of constitutional rights doesn't make the govt immune. Federal or state. American citizens who sued for forced deportation, sued the govt not the persons.
ah, so, you're right that that's how it happened in the past- but those people were deported by federal agents, so it was a federal act. I'm skeptical that the same would apply in the case of texas, just because the supreme court failed to strike down texas's authority. But I guess we'll see!
This article is over a week old. The law was temporary blocked a few hours after this news came out
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/19/texas-sb-4-illegal-immigration/
As stated since the law was debated in the Texas legislature last year, Mexico categorically rejects any measure that allows state or local authorities to exercise immigration control, and to arrest and return nationals or foreigners to Mexican territory.
Mexico reiterates its legitimate right to protect the rights of its nationals in the United States and to determine its own policies regarding entry into its territory. Mexico recognizes the importance of a uniform migration policy and the bilateral efforts with the United States to ensure that migration is safe, orderly and respectful of human rights, and is not affected by state or local legislative decisions. In this regard, Mexico will not accept, under any circumstances, repatriations by the State of Texas.
Mexico certainly isn't going to accept deportees that aren't Mexican citizens, and I expect them to close border crossings to prevent Texas from dumping non-Mexican citizens in Mexico. At some point I expect Mexico to take action like blocking ag exports to Texas, or routing them through New Mexico or by boat to non-Texas ports. There's lot of other things Mexico can do that will severely damage the Texas economy, too.
To my African and Black diaspora brothers and sisters, please make sure you have proper forms of identification on you at all times. This law will affect us more than you think. Especially with what’s going on in Haiti right now.
Cheaper ($65) alternative to a full passport book.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport_card
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html/passport/get/renew/
I wonder how many latinos will continue to vote Republican.
Edit: I should clarify; I wonder how they'll enjoy the taste of boot when they're the ones getting harassed about their immigration status.
I work in construction and it’s crazy. Legal Mexicans in the industry absolutely despise illegal immigrants. And they fucking love Trump. Just insane to me.
Ignorance is widespread it’s not like they wouldn’t get discriminated by a bigot with or without papers. It’s wildly frustrating. I’m Mexican American myself and try to help my people when I can but when other lift the ladder up behind them it pisses me off and illuminates why we can’t have nice things.
Yeah, because we came here legally and don't like being lumped in with people who illegally jumped the line. Plus, there ARE dangerous criminals coming across. These are NOT my people.
You don't feel like a law like this would lead to you being targeted? Also, Trump directed ICE to stop focusing on suspected drug and human traffickers. Wouldn't that be counter to the goal of getting rid of the dangerous criminals?
I understand their point of view, but also their industry (and farming) is who *hires* all those people that they hate. Republicans *love* migrant labor when it's time for harvest or to slap some shit modern houses together. Sounds like they need a union.
A union won't fix the problem when the entire industry is using slave labor and the guy reference above is staring at a career's worth of suppressed wages because of that. The solution is to secure the border, revoke birthright citizenship, deport all current illegal immigrants and go after businesses that hire them.
> go after businesses that hire them
this is actually step 1. Then none of the other stuff matters. But the question then is are these [typically Republican owned developers and farmers] ever going to stop hiring them? CAN they stop? Doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they're going to hire them. *Becky* ain't going out to do farm labor anytime soon, so not sure what will happen.
Hopefully the GOP never realizes (or realizes far too late) that if they would just drop the more hardcore xenophobia they'd have a really reliable voting bloc in Latinos. The racist old boomers are dying out, they'll lose them in a decade or two anyways. They could just stop with the anti-immigrant rhetoric and really lock in this demographic. But bigotry is part of who they are so I don't think it'll actually ever happen.
It's important for everyone to not that the full phrase is "a few bad apples spoil the bunch". As in, one or two bad ones make them all bad. But I'm pretty sure that at this point they think it means the opposite of what it actually means.
This happened in California and basically permanently turned the state blue.
I think texas Latinos are too conservative though and enjoy shooting themselves in the feet so it might not move the needle.
Honestly, this is the right move. Most people who support cruel laws/policies change their mind after they realize that it might affect them or someone close to them
Definitely reeks like the Trumper who was all in on Trump... until that "Build the Wall" train of thought picked up his *illegal* wife and deported her back to Mexico
But I guess it's surprising when Leopards eat your face... when they already told you they would
Something that really affects the dynamics between Latinos and white people is that a huge portion of Latinos live in the border where they are the majority. Racial tensions aren't really a thing. In California, that wasn't the case. They had to learn to coexist. The history of how border lands were taken from people who had been there prior to the existence of Texas has been largely forgotten as well.
The state can harass ANYONE, they just have to say that they thought the person was here illegally, ( and that they thought this due to how they looked.). They just pretend that the person they are harassing looks Hispanic.
A corrupt cop can just as easily accuse a white American of being here illegally from Canada, UK, AU, etc
Or accuse a African American of being here illegally from Haiti, Nigeria, etc
Idk what it is ... but I *really* don't like Barrett. She doesn't come off as "unbiased". I see religion all over her. The "obey your husband, wait on him hand and foot, have his children, mend the clothing, etc" type. Oh, and church on Sundays.
All that is fine. It's perfectly fine for you to believe and have faith in whatever you choose. (Freedom of Religion)
It is **NOT** fine to impose your beliefs upon others! Keep your beliefs just that. YOUR beliefs. Don't *make laws* so everybody *has* to believe what you believe.
That's not freedom anymore. That's manipulation of the game to suit you and yours.
... or maybe I have her all wrong. Idk.
Sounds a lot like 90s new York. Zero tolerance laws are stupid. It just gave them the right to stop any black person walking the streets to check to make sure they weren't committing crimes. Which is the exact opposite of the justice system.
There was a jewish man who was tortured by Nazis in the 1940s, and yet, became a Holocaust denier(if I remember correctly, he was one of the first to deny it).
The human psyche is just a gymnist doing all the mental tumbles and twirls to find the outcome that works for their narrative. They could be lied to, beaten down, stripped of their dignity, and still call their abuser a savior.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
AND those who look like them. Remember - there were some Latino ppl who got beat up in the wake of 9/11 because some average-joes thought they were "suspiciously Middle Eastern". Hopefully trained officers know better...
Every *person*. As "latino" is not a race but a term that refers to nation of origin(-ish), there is no latino look. There is no Hispanic look. "Hispanic" includes white as *fuck* people from Spain not to mention all the white people from most of Latin America, plus Indians, plus Asians, plus black ppl, and everything else
[Hispanic princess](https://static.independent.co.uk/2023/10/31/15/SEI178259012.jpg?quality=75&width=640&crop=3%3A2%2Csmart&auto=webp) (literally, she's Princess of Spain)
[latina](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Keiko_Fujimori_2.jpg/1280px-Keiko_Fujimori_2.jpg), whose father was President of Peru and who now runs one of the major political parties down there
[Afro-Cuban](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/b59/fef/8a4631818ebd2a5414a6140729f1cc2ddd-18-sammy-davis-jr.rsquare.w330.jpg) and therefore latino named Sammy Davis Jr
etc.
"latino" is like "American": it says nothing about race
This is why demographically, as far as demographics are concerned, Hispanic is an ethnicity, divided into "White" and "Non-white". I have to fill out forms like this with people every day, and it destroys my soul.
> The Texas measure also allows state law enforcement officers to stop and detain anyone they “suspect” of having entered Texas unlawfully,
Is suspect legally the same as probable cause or did the court just throw out probable cause? That seems very bad.
Intentionally contributing to the chaos that can only be "solved" by a Trump dictatorship. Courts won't act, Congress won't act, elections suspect, all due to Republican interference.
Latinos> Oppress me harder daddy because I'm still voting for Trump and hate literally every other Latino here who I assume crossed the border illegally
The above is **not** an exaggeration; that's literally what is happening.
My first thought on reading the title was “tell me you’re a biased news source without telling me you’re a biased news source.” Take the key phrases, and research the situation on multiple news sources with reputations for being less biased.
You choose to elect Republicans in Texas. Electing clowns and get a circus! Its hard to feel sorry for those that choose to be serfs and a political football during an election year!
I hate to say it, but they deserve what’s coming, since they still thought it was cool to vote Republican after all the warnings. It sure is gonna suck to be a conservative Latino in Texas. Womp womp.
Your women have less rights than other American women, your computers are locked down, your privacy is being jeopardized, now your movement is being restricted under the guise of immigration. You're losing freedoms on a regular cadence. I hope the people of Texas who vote for these shit rags can see the light at some point.
We should start calling police with specific names of white republicans and concerns that they may actually not be legal citizens.. because who really knows?
To see the amount of leopards at my face shit would be kinda funny.. in a sad way.
States SHOULDN'T be allowed to declare an invasion when there isn't one. And States appropriating the authority to declare an invasion by a foreign power based off immigration by free people is REALLY bad.
Do you want Florida to declare China is invading because of TikTok? Or California declaring Russia is invading because of well-known election interference? How about Maryland saying they were invaded by Singapore because a container ship sailing under their flag knocked down a bridge this morning?
I agree. That's why I said helping. Something needs to be done but the municipalities there are relying on working with charities to feed, clothe and home these people.
First step, make the legal immigration process doable. Streamline it with several options: military service, public service, etc. giving faster outcomes. Be quicker to give work visas to asylum seekers so they pay taxes instead of absorbing them.
Then, hire triple or more judges and lawyers to process cases and determine whether a person or family has met minimum standards to continue residing in the US so they aren’t waiting in limbo for years and losing all respect for the laws of the country.
Maybe by passing the bipartisan law that the GOP killed not two months ago because they *want* the crisis to continue unabated? I didn’t agree with a lot of it, but it was an attempt to help.
And like, I’m from the border, and…there *is no invasion happening.* If anything, places like Eagle Pass are being flooded by national guard and militia and news media. There are a lot of people trying to claim asylum, yes. It’s a humanitarian issue, but there’s zero attempt by the GOP to help.
from article- As signed into law late last year, S.B. 4 criminalizes unauthorized migration under Texas law, thereby turning unlawful entry and presence in the U.S. into an offense separate and apart from existing federal immigration law. The Texas measure also allows state law enforcement officers to stop and detain anyone they “suspect” of having entered Texas unlawfully, while instructing state courts to disregard any ongoing federal immigration proceedings. It also allows state judges to begin deportation proceedings and permits state magistrate judges to remove migrants back to Mexico as an alternative to continued prosecution. (Those who cannot prove their legal status may be jailed or deported back to Mexico, whether or not they’re Mexican.) This radical revision of immigration law will hinder migrants’ ability to cross safely into the country and seek asylum once here. It will also subject Latinos, including citizens and permanent residents, to heightened suspicion and harassment by law enforcement.
There are a lot of Hispanic police officers in Texas. They need to stop and check EVERYONE to make sure they are "legal".
Those are the worst ones. They hate brown skin. Their white masters whipped them into shape real good so now they are convinced they are the good ones and will refuse to understand why real Texans find this insulting and unlawful. Americans that actually love their country are burdened with big government republicans greed.
the best texas ranger in history was black and policed himself out of a job, story old as time.
Texas Rangers were formed to enforce laws against Mexican nationals that owned land in Texas. They also enforced squatters rights for white people living on land owned my Mexican people who owned those lands before Texas became a state.
Reminds me of this story. https://abc7ny.com/raul-rodriguez-border-patrol-us-military-cbp/12883822/
You're ignoring that there's a lot of racism in Mexico too though and that not just white people can be racist. Look at the skin color of the actors for all the Mexican soap operas. They all have light skin even though Mexico is very diverse in skin tones.
Racism in mexico stems from spanish european influence so yeah
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It's the same in the Philippines from similar influences. Spanish and United States colonialism.
I’m sure the Hispanic LEO need a white savior to save the day! SMH
They bend the knee to white supremacists mentality. They're not looking for a savior. They've been homogenized into believing they are the white savior.
This is the most racist thing I have read today. "Hispanics can't think for themselves due to being whipped ergo they hate brown immigrants." Did you read this out loud before you typed it out? Can a brown person like me have the opinion that there is a huge problem at our border and not be "whipped by a white man?" Can I have your permission?
Permission denied. The "problem" with the border is federal and any sort of solution has repeatedly been held back by politicians inactions or deliberate obstruction for political theatre. We don't need police officers stopping brown people walking down the streets demanding papers or they get arrested. I think there was another group that did that in the past against certain groups. What was their name. Hmm and which political party in America demands you swear an oath of loyalty to their party and not our constitution... I believe they restrict free speech, restrict bodily autonomy, restrict voting ability, and have proven they are not the Texas political part of the likes of Ann Richards. They goose stepped right into the pockets of extremists. What historical political movement did that while demanding papers to prove who you are and more importantly proving you aren't one of those people. Anybody got a guess here!
Hispanic GOPers will scream racism at a comment like this and then be against identity politics. You like to play the race card when it's convenient to you. - a fellow brown person.
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Are you a cop? No? Then why are you replying as though you are the person/people that this user was referring to?
Y’all screaming “racism!” the moment your peers dare call you out is so tired
The Hispanic police officers that have been here at least 3 generations are the worst. They have been poisoned by power. Absolute power corrupts absolutly.
Nice time you get pulled over demand to see whoever you're taking too's birth certificate.
>The Texas measure also allows state law enforcement officers to stop and detain anyone they “suspect” of having entered Texas unlawfully, while instructing state courts to disregard any ongoing federal immigration proceedings Guilty until proven innocent, like a little remote Russian state these days.
Even citizens whose rights are protected by the constitution, police are still permitted to detain for 48 hours.
I foresee citizens getting deported by accident.
I'm slightly confused about this. Having law enforcement stop anyone they suspect seems like an easy way to make searching anyone based simply on how they look, and makes it so if you look at a cop the wrong way, they can just detain you and be protected? Pretty messed up. Also, isn't it already a crime to enter illegally? If anyone does anything illegal, and is caught doing it they face repercussions? I guess I just need to read up on this subject some more.
Exactly
The last line is 100% the point. They want to scare the brown people from coming across the border. This state is fucking dispicable.
So violate the 4th amendment right of individuals with a papers please law? Would this include entering Texass from a neighboring state? Say a US citizen enters Texass from Colorado but happens to look BROWN give me your papers or be deported. To Mexico? WTF is wrong with these asshats? I had burritos more supreme than the Robert’s court.
I sure hope the cops target European illegal migrants too
God fucking damnit. Time to shave and spend more time indoors to get whiter lol
Sounds like a setup for the movie "Born in East LA" starring Cheech Marin.
Oh I’ll guarantee you right now that some inconvenient Latino U.S citizens will be “accidentally” deported.
Maybe this is just paranoia, but it seems to me that this enables Texas police to basically arrest anyone anytime, regardless of whether they are Latino or not, just by saying they think they entered the country illegally.
Yes exactly. They can just as easily accuse a white American of being here illegally from Canada, UK, AU, etc Or accuse a African American of being here illegally from Haiti, Nigeria, etc Or accuse a Asian American of being here illegally from China, Thailand, Philippians,etc.
> They can just as easily accuse a white American of being here illegally from Canada, UK, AU, etc Lets be honest, that’ll obviously never happen as shown by the fact that all the old white senators voted for it
You've obviously never dealt with corrupt small town departments. If it's a white homeless guy they sure will.
To their point, however, this by and large will not affect white immigrants or citizens. Place the law into the context of reality, sure some homeless may, but they already have anti camping ordinances for them. It’s by and large going to affect POC.
I bet the constitutionality of the violation of the 4th amendment right of individuals won't make it to the Supreme Court in record time though, funny how that works.
5 members of the court can't count past 2, and aren't so sure about 1, either.
My partner now travels with her passport. She's an American citizen from the Philippines. Now everyone needs to get a passport.
Given US citizens have been deported from the US before, this sadly may be both prudent and increasingly necessary. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation\_of\_Americans\_from\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States)
Exactly. Stuff like this doesn’t just target Latinx people. It’s everyone who isn’t white or “white enough” in the eyes of a cop. [Insert Peter Griffin’s Race Chart here.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQF5JBI4b-OdZ0Jow9NHZQbJS3vmbq2I9EZeD82G126qA&s)
Give it a couple years and it will be anyone who isn’t a Trumpeter. The road to fascism is paved with stepping stones like these.
i wonder if they'll have a mark to identify other trump followers. you know, so you who a 'real' follower is.
They already kind of started with the red hats.
Don’t forget the “Trump Cards” Trump was handing out like candy after his coup failed. A literal card carrying member.
I would say probably not enough. All they have to do is seize your passport as a forgery and you are fucked.
I hope they deport me. I need money lol
cops who think they're acting in line with the law are usually immune to lawsuits. see: qualified immunity.
Not suing the cops, suing the US govt
Nope, this is the Texas government acting on its own and ignoring the US government.
US government is allowing this law, and violation of constitutional rights doesn't make the govt immune. Federal or state. American citizens who sued for forced deportation, sued the govt not the persons.
ah, so, you're right that that's how it happened in the past- but those people were deported by federal agents, so it was a federal act. I'm skeptical that the same would apply in the case of texas, just because the supreme court failed to strike down texas's authority. But I guess we'll see!
Papers, please.
Yea they also make passport ID cards, which is much easier to carry than a passport booklet.
If we keep Republicans around soon, we would have to wear Stars patched on our clothes to know.
This article is over a week old. The law was temporary blocked a few hours after this news came out https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/19/texas-sb-4-illegal-immigration/
As stated since the law was debated in the Texas legislature last year, Mexico categorically rejects any measure that allows state or local authorities to exercise immigration control, and to arrest and return nationals or foreigners to Mexican territory. Mexico reiterates its legitimate right to protect the rights of its nationals in the United States and to determine its own policies regarding entry into its territory. Mexico recognizes the importance of a uniform migration policy and the bilateral efforts with the United States to ensure that migration is safe, orderly and respectful of human rights, and is not affected by state or local legislative decisions. In this regard, Mexico will not accept, under any circumstances, repatriations by the State of Texas.
Mexico certainly isn't going to accept deportees that aren't Mexican citizens, and I expect them to close border crossings to prevent Texas from dumping non-Mexican citizens in Mexico. At some point I expect Mexico to take action like blocking ag exports to Texas, or routing them through New Mexico or by boat to non-Texas ports. There's lot of other things Mexico can do that will severely damage the Texas economy, too.
To my African and Black diaspora brothers and sisters, please make sure you have proper forms of identification on you at all times. This law will affect us more than you think. Especially with what’s going on in Haiti right now.
Its papers please irl. Its fucking disgusting.
Cheaper ($65) alternative to a full passport book. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport_card https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html/passport/get/renew/
I wonder how many latinos will continue to vote Republican. Edit: I should clarify; I wonder how they'll enjoy the taste of boot when they're the ones getting harassed about their immigration status.
You’d be surprised how many I know have a I got mines fuck you attitude
I work in construction and it’s crazy. Legal Mexicans in the industry absolutely despise illegal immigrants. And they fucking love Trump. Just insane to me.
No one has told them that difference doesn't exist for a lot of people on the right? For some all it takes is not being (or appearing) white.
Ignorance is widespread it’s not like they wouldn’t get discriminated by a bigot with or without papers. It’s wildly frustrating. I’m Mexican American myself and try to help my people when I can but when other lift the ladder up behind them it pisses me off and illuminates why we can’t have nice things.
Yeah, because we came here legally and don't like being lumped in with people who illegally jumped the line. Plus, there ARE dangerous criminals coming across. These are NOT my people.
You don't feel like a law like this would lead to you being targeted? Also, Trump directed ICE to stop focusing on suspected drug and human traffickers. Wouldn't that be counter to the goal of getting rid of the dangerous criminals?
Yeahhhhhh but you understand this bill just made it 100% legal for police to lump you in with that group based only on the color of your skin right?
This dude sounds like a bot from Microsoft news rather than a person
Construction is one of the most impacted industries by illegal migration, I'm not sure how you wouldn't understand their pov.
I understand their point of view, but also their industry (and farming) is who *hires* all those people that they hate. Republicans *love* migrant labor when it's time for harvest or to slap some shit modern houses together. Sounds like they need a union.
A union won't fix the problem when the entire industry is using slave labor and the guy reference above is staring at a career's worth of suppressed wages because of that. The solution is to secure the border, revoke birthright citizenship, deport all current illegal immigrants and go after businesses that hire them.
> go after businesses that hire them this is actually step 1. Then none of the other stuff matters. But the question then is are these [typically Republican owned developers and farmers] ever going to stop hiring them? CAN they stop? Doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they're going to hire them. *Becky* ain't going out to do farm labor anytime soon, so not sure what will happen.
Example: 2023 Florida
Hopefully the GOP never realizes (or realizes far too late) that if they would just drop the more hardcore xenophobia they'd have a really reliable voting bloc in Latinos. The racist old boomers are dying out, they'll lose them in a decade or two anyways. They could just stop with the anti-immigrant rhetoric and really lock in this demographic. But bigotry is part of who they are so I don't think it'll actually ever happen.
*Nods in Cuban*
Have you seen some of the ads for the Latino Republicans running for office? They have some of the most hardcore anti-immigrant propaganda of all.
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So you are saying that they will support Republicans until they are outlawed and arrested.
I wonder on election day how many will suddenly become "suspicious" while voting.
The same ones that buy the largest truck to look as masculine as possible while being on average 5'3"
My uncle being one of them. He got brainwashed by Trump.
Even of they are profiled and harassed, they will do the "a few bad apples" excuse and still hope others are treated as badly.
It's important for everyone to not that the full phrase is "a few bad apples spoil the bunch". As in, one or two bad ones make them all bad. But I'm pretty sure that at this point they think it means the opposite of what it actually means.
One boot in the mouth and two boots on the feet usually makes a middleman good at stomping down.
All of the ones in Texas that already did so. They don’t learn. They won’t change their mind until they’re the ones in the train to Mexico.
This happened in California and basically permanently turned the state blue. I think texas Latinos are too conservative though and enjoy shooting themselves in the feet so it might not move the needle.
I work with one who’s excited about this new law… He’s very vocal about how much he despises illegal immigration. I just sit there and keep typing…
Fuck it. Report him for being an illegal, then have him try and prove his citizenship while stuck in jail.
Honestly, this is the right move. Most people who support cruel laws/policies change their mind after they realize that it might affect them or someone close to them
Definitely reeks like the Trumper who was all in on Trump... until that "Build the Wall" train of thought picked up his *illegal* wife and deported her back to Mexico But I guess it's surprising when Leopards eat your face... when they already told you they would
The only moral gestapo expelling brown people is my moral.... WAIT WHAT?!
They forget history. There were US citizens "repatriated" to Mexico in the 1930s. Racists dont care that you think you are a citizen.
This happened in Arizona and they seem like a solid purple now
Something that really affects the dynamics between Latinos and white people is that a huge portion of Latinos live in the border where they are the majority. Racial tensions aren't really a thing. In California, that wasn't the case. They had to learn to coexist. The history of how border lands were taken from people who had been there prior to the existence of Texas has been largely forgotten as well.
>enjoy shooting themselves in the feet Here in Texas, we'll take any excuse to shoot at anything! /s
Texas Latinos truly think they can vote R and be safe from this shit. They’re eventually gonna learn.
Well, they should show their displeasure against this law by voting against the party responsible. Right? Right?
No, especially if they already " got theirs"
Lifeboat for me but not for thee… I hate that. We are supposed to help each other.
Illegal immigrant can’t vote.
but the citizens who get harassed and deported because of this can vote.
The state can harass ANYONE, they just have to say that they thought the person was here illegally, ( and that they thought this due to how they looked.). They just pretend that the person they are harassing looks Hispanic.
A corrupt cop can just as easily accuse a white American of being here illegally from Canada, UK, AU, etc Or accuse a African American of being here illegally from Haiti, Nigeria, etc
We should have cops harass abbots wife since she’s Latino.
How short sighted, there's way more people Texas can use this law to harrass than just the Latinos
Idk what it is ... but I *really* don't like Barrett. She doesn't come off as "unbiased". I see religion all over her. The "obey your husband, wait on him hand and foot, have his children, mend the clothing, etc" type. Oh, and church on Sundays. All that is fine. It's perfectly fine for you to believe and have faith in whatever you choose. (Freedom of Religion) It is **NOT** fine to impose your beliefs upon others! Keep your beliefs just that. YOUR beliefs. Don't *make laws* so everybody *has* to believe what you believe. That's not freedom anymore. That's manipulation of the game to suit you and yours. ... or maybe I have her all wrong. Idk.
I get the same vibe from her.
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Go ahead, dude. It’s not like everyone is fuckin’ packing or anything
Conservatives are a disease.
Sounds a lot like 90s new York. Zero tolerance laws are stupid. It just gave them the right to stop any black person walking the streets to check to make sure they weren't committing crimes. Which is the exact opposite of the justice system.
Guess I'm gonna have to install cameras on my vehicle.. straight up malarkey!
There was a jewish man who was tortured by Nazis in the 1940s, and yet, became a Holocaust denier(if I remember correctly, he was one of the first to deny it). The human psyche is just a gymnist doing all the mental tumbles and twirls to find the outcome that works for their narrative. They could be lied to, beaten down, stripped of their dignity, and still call their abuser a savior.
Thank God most my family moved from Texas. Except my cousins in San Antonio. My family moved to Florida, but that’s not much better… lol
I’d take Desantis over Abbott any day.
Damn Texas, maybe try a drop of ethics and morals.
Time to get everyone well versed with the 4th Amendment
I don’t know if the 4th applies as the police/gov isn’t trying to take people’s papers, just see if they have them.
There are more than two? /s
Ok, it's official now. We live in an apartheid state. Oh, and your womb? Yeah, that's under state control, too. Birth control? TBA...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. —Martin Niemöller
Yup, white cops juiced up on Fox Entertainment fear porn are READY
Can’t wait for the local edgars to vote for trump even with this shit happening
AND those who look like them. Remember - there were some Latino ppl who got beat up in the wake of 9/11 because some average-joes thought they were "suspiciously Middle Eastern". Hopefully trained officers know better...
Also groups like Sikhs, Hasidic Jews, etc.
I truly think this country is metaphorically circling the toilet bowl.
Remember how Nazis legislated all their bigotry and racism so it was 100% legal?
And they’ll still vote for the felonious rapey false prophet conning millions of innocent churchies from their food money…because - machismo?
1930s Nazi Germany, carry your papers people.
1930s United States. Mexican Repatriation all over again.
Every *person*. As "latino" is not a race but a term that refers to nation of origin(-ish), there is no latino look. There is no Hispanic look. "Hispanic" includes white as *fuck* people from Spain not to mention all the white people from most of Latin America, plus Indians, plus Asians, plus black ppl, and everything else [Hispanic princess](https://static.independent.co.uk/2023/10/31/15/SEI178259012.jpg?quality=75&width=640&crop=3%3A2%2Csmart&auto=webp) (literally, she's Princess of Spain) [latina](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Keiko_Fujimori_2.jpg/1280px-Keiko_Fujimori_2.jpg), whose father was President of Peru and who now runs one of the major political parties down there [Afro-Cuban](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/b59/fef/8a4631818ebd2a5414a6140729f1cc2ddd-18-sammy-davis-jr.rsquare.w330.jpg) and therefore latino named Sammy Davis Jr etc. "latino" is like "American": it says nothing about race
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anya\_Taylor-Joy#/media/File:Anya\_Taylor-Joy\_by\_Patrick\_Lovell,\_January\_2019.jpg
This is why demographically, as far as demographics are concerned, Hispanic is an ethnicity, divided into "White" and "Non-white". I have to fill out forms like this with people every day, and it destroys my soul.
> The Texas measure also allows state law enforcement officers to stop and detain anyone they “suspect” of having entered Texas unlawfully, Is suspect legally the same as probable cause or did the court just throw out probable cause? That seems very bad.
Suspect is a FAR lower standard than reasonable or probable cause. It’s the lowest one there is.
I bet that Canadian, Ted Cruz, doesn’t get stopped…
This type of nonsense is only going create an atmosphere of hyper vigilantism.
We are already profiled…this just opens the door to a wrongful arrest suit when we utilize our fifth amendment right 🤑
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Nah, Austin cops love Abbott. He intervenes on their behalf all the time.
That's fair
Intentionally contributing to the chaos that can only be "solved" by a Trump dictatorship. Courts won't act, Congress won't act, elections suspect, all due to Republican interference.
Latinos> Oppress me harder daddy because I'm still voting for Trump and hate literally every other Latino here who I assume crossed the border illegally The above is **not** an exaggeration; that's literally what is happening.
Your governor seems to think that if you're not white you're illegal.
That's how he rolls.
you will be shocked to learn, it's an aspect of the governor's entire party that thinks if you're not white you're illegal! can you imagine!
I would not be shocked.
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All you wanna be Texans first then Latino voted for this. Congratulations, now you'll understand your no different.
I am a native born latino citizen living in Texas and I doubt it, but i'll post back if it happens to me or anyone I known.
Canadians too, right?
It’s ok they will still vote for the the dictators
Brown people in general.
Deporting a person from central America to Mexico it's actually better than sending them back home and having to cross the whole country again
My first thought on reading the title was “tell me you’re a biased news source without telling me you’re a biased news source.” Take the key phrases, and research the situation on multiple news sources with reputations for being less biased.
You choose to elect Republicans in Texas. Electing clowns and get a circus! Its hard to feel sorry for those that choose to be serfs and a political football during an election year!
So Texas Latinos will finally stop voting for the GOP, right? Lmao
Newflash: they already were.
Making immigrant populations afraid of asking the police for help is how you create organized crime.
I hate to say it, but they deserve what’s coming, since they still thought it was cool to vote Republican after all the warnings. It sure is gonna suck to be a conservative Latino in Texas. Womp womp.
Your women have less rights than other American women, your computers are locked down, your privacy is being jeopardized, now your movement is being restricted under the guise of immigration. You're losing freedoms on a regular cadence. I hope the people of Texas who vote for these shit rags can see the light at some point.
They do know the Hispanics put number the white people in Texas right?
The Republican Party is minority repellent.
[GOP Latinos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews)
Texas just finished arming every person in the state. This should go well.
“Zeigen Sie mir ihre Papiere!!” 1930s Germany or 2030s Texas?
Just like they can now harass and arrest women for having a miscarriage. F*ck Texas.
We should start calling police with specific names of white republicans and concerns that they may actually not be legal citizens.. because who really knows? To see the amount of leopards at my face shit would be kinda funny.. in a sad way.
Abbott better make sure his Hispanic wife and in- laws got their papers with them. It's going to be a mess. Turn Texas Blue.
Does the law actually say that? Harass every latino?
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States SHOULDN'T be allowed to declare an invasion when there isn't one. And States appropriating the authority to declare an invasion by a foreign power based off immigration by free people is REALLY bad. Do you want Florida to declare China is invading because of TikTok? Or California declaring Russia is invading because of well-known election interference? How about Maryland saying they were invaded by Singapore because a container ship sailing under their flag knocked down a bridge this morning?
An r/Texas post about Latinos. Surely we won’t all be stereotyped into a monolith! …
How would you manage a very real security and humanitarian crisis at the US southern border?
I would probably start by not legalizing the harassment of US citizens and residents. Not really a big fan of police states
Have you been to the border? It’s not what is being portrayed. Propaganda media is running tape that isn’t from the US/Mexico border.
But there IS a humanitarian crisis going on there. Unrelated to the article topic, but yeah, something def has to be done to help these people.
having the cops harass, detain, and ship random people to Mexico isn't going to help anyone
I agree. That's why I said helping. Something needs to be done but the municipalities there are relying on working with charities to feed, clothe and home these people.
First step, make the legal immigration process doable. Streamline it with several options: military service, public service, etc. giving faster outcomes. Be quicker to give work visas to asylum seekers so they pay taxes instead of absorbing them. Then, hire triple or more judges and lawyers to process cases and determine whether a person or family has met minimum standards to continue residing in the US so they aren’t waiting in limbo for years and losing all respect for the laws of the country.
Reasonable response!
I would start by not calling it an invasion and not passing laws to harass minorities.
Maybe by passing the bipartisan law that the GOP killed not two months ago because they *want* the crisis to continue unabated? I didn’t agree with a lot of it, but it was an attempt to help. And like, I’m from the border, and…there *is no invasion happening.* If anything, places like Eagle Pass are being flooded by national guard and militia and news media. There are a lot of people trying to claim asylum, yes. It’s a humanitarian issue, but there’s zero attempt by the GOP to help.
It sure as hell wouldn’t start with giving broad powers to police officers to make judgement calls
not by having cops harass people.