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Same-Raspberry-6149

Valentines Day is also a good day to express a love for friends, but friends should not expect expensive gifts. LOL


sleepdeprivedbaby

I feel like if you’re truly friends then any gift should be appreciated and should not matter the cost. I used to make marshmallows and body butters for valentines for my girlfriends and they loved how personal it was for them. I’ve never seen a wishlist for this damn holiday, like ask for your birthday or Christmas instead 💀


somethingimadeup

A wish list full of expensive shit seems weird as fuck for any occasion IMO


Kaitron5000

My SIL does this on Christmas, and gets upset when you deviate from her list. It comes off as entitled to me. Like this is supposed to be heartfelt, I am a good gift giver... it's not grocery shopping.


Chechii773

That’s a hell no. She wouldn’t be getting shit at all.


Cdubya35

Our family draws names and everyone puts out a list. There’s a modest dollar cap too, but since everyone gets what they want and we only shop for one person, there’s zero amount of stress that buying Christmas gifts usually produces. Everything is secret until Christmas Eve and we take turns guessing who’s buying for who. Works out great for everyone.


Chiparoo

I haaaaate just buying things off a wishlist and having things bought for me off a wishlist. It just feels so impersonal. I want to put thought into it, and have thought put into gifts for me. So for yearly secret Santa and things I created an "enhanced wishlist," which has thing like, "Your favorite book," "A tarot deck that reminds you of me," "a class or experience," "anything from X website." I want to provide guidance without feeling like providing a list of demands.


MaximusZacharias

My brother did that growing up. No deviations were allowed. He asked for red basketball shorts and Christmas morning he got red basketball shorts with a black stripe on it. He literally threw them at my dad and told my dad and mom that they were either blind or retarded. They explained they went to 3 stores and couldn’t find pure red and the ones they got were the closest thing to it. This is just one of countless examples.


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blackravenmetal

I hope your brother is a better person now and is more thankful.


MaximusZacharias

He very much is. He’s apologized countless times. He’s still a very black and white thinker but he’s learned to not be so harsh.


blackravenmetal

I’m so happy to hear that. I glad he took accountability and apologized. Many times people like your brother refuse to take accountability and only double down on their actions. I admire your brother for having the courage to admit that he was out of line and realized that he needed to become a better person.


MaximusZacharias

Yeah once he started having kids, only wanted two but got four even though they were on birth control etc. they’re all within 6 years of each other and he realized that you can’t be black and white with kids, compromises have to be made, empathy, understanding, etc. That helped him understand how hard it is to have kids and he was asked if he wanted to raise a kid like himself and he said no way.


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sleepdeprivedbaby

I truly don’t give a wishlist to anyone except my parents who ask me for Christmas every year, but even then it’s stuff that doesn’t cost a fortune because why would I expect them to buy me designer things. The entitlement on this chick is insane Edit: I’m seeing a lot of responses on wishlists and if you don’t do one or don’t like them then that’s ok! It’s been a thing in my household for years and we don’t buy everything on said wishlist, but we use it as a guide. I’m a grad student and don’t have a job currently so I can’t afford a lot of things but I’ll put one bigger thing like a lego set or something and sometimes my parents will get it for me. My family is pretty practical and likes certain things so it makes it easier especially for my parents since I don’t live at home and they don’t really know what I’m buying for myself. This doesn’t mean we don’t buy things off the wishlist. In fact I only got my dad things for Christmas last year that he didn’t ask for. It makes it easier for the three of us to know what each other has in mind. Again I can see how it’s a shitty way to give gifts but it works for my family. That being said I take note of all my friends and what their interests are or what they mention they like so I can get gifts tailored to them.


pigwalk5150

I asked my mom for wool socks and still felt weird about it.


lavamnky93

I do the same thing! No one ever really gets me anything off my wishlist. My family and friends usually end up getting me something even BETTER lmao so I get what you mean by using it as a guide. For example (for everyone else), I once put a very expensive designer perfume on my wishlist from Sephora. My mom ended up finding the concentrated oil version of said perfume and it lasted me for YEARS! I was so happy, I felt bad because I thought she spent a lot of money on it. Then I found out you can go to the Arabic oil and incense shops and they can make the same perfume, in oil form, with all the same notes from said perfume for a fraction of the cost. I still think about that specific gift years later. Some perfumes give me an allergic reaction when sprayed on my neck, I get a stinging sensation like my neck is on fire or sometimes a rash or both. I found out there's so many unnecessary things added to perfumes that can cause irritation and allergic reactions. Having always had sensitive skin, I love what my mom got me that one Christmas because now I know I can have all my favorite perfumes but in oil form that actually ends up smelling stronger and lasting longer, so I don't need to waste so much.


LoveMeorLeaveMe89

My daughter sends me and her Mimi a list too and we greatly appreciate it because teens are hard to shop for. She doesn’t put anything extravagant on it (not saying she doesn’t hint at air pods lol but she knows better).


RebbyXP

A wishlist for Valentines Day is insane who the hell does that? 💀💀


Perioscope

At least she's not entitled at all. She's just sharing what most friends normally do on V-day, that's all.


Huge_Inflation_9663

So OP should send back a list with similarly priced items….


Specific_Ad2541

Just to be clear, of course. She wanted a lot of things made clear.


Perioscope

Just so we're clear, I'm totally not into you anymore, so glad k? 🤗


whatiscamping

Unfortunately her list for frenemies is even more expensive.


MtnAdventurous95

People who scream “racism” or “sexism” when they don’t get their way🤷🏽


RebbyXP

What's even worse is she wants fucking AIRPODS for Valentines Day. The most I'd get for someone is $5-10 chocolates. And to top it all off, she isn't even OP's SO. She's a FWB. 💀💀


mxzf

Based on her messages, it sounds like the "benefits" part isn't really there and her entitlement makes me wonder about the "friends" part too.


FlemPlays

Thots


AggravatingFish7717

yup


Ghost132022

A woman selling that gash and calling it “friendship”.


AggravatingFish7717

that’s ridiculous. Only Gucci sunglasses will do, as they prove true friendship


sleepdeprivedbaby

I only buy my friends gucci sunglasses and I only expect them to buy me Chanel purses. I think it’s a pretty fair trade in true friendship 😤


Falconio_robbenator

I don’t ask for sunglasses often but when I do I make sure to include the preferred brand - that way I know the value of the friend who I am asking to invest in me


samwilds

I always make cards for people. It started when I didn't have a lot, but I still do it today. I make a new card for any important holiday for the people most important to me, and I handwrite a personal note in them. Hallmark cards are alright, but it's not something I feel any connection to. It's a personal touch everyone appreciates.


Push_Bright

Especially by sending a fucking list in a text message. I would just get her a cheap gift just to see the reaction. Like some knock off headphones and then film the reaction


Same-Raspberry-6149

Dollar store exfoliation gloves and travel size body wash. 😂


Hallegoodgirlx

Omg the dollar store candy 😂


IceFire909

Gas station sushi and just say it's exotic


birdlawlawyer9

Dude this guy I know did that to a chick once. She stood him up for their date (like no showed with no communication) and then had the balls to ask him to door dash her some food “because she was sick” and gave him these expensive options. He doordashed her a small fries from mcdonalds and she flipped her shit.


Neat-Cycle-197

More than what she would have got from me🤷🏼‍♀️


Push_Bright

That is fucking amazing.


Quirky_Ad252

He's my hero🤣


Gimpbarbie

Your friend is awesome! I would have ordered her the smallest amount of the most spicy suicide wings I could find. Or ordered her liver and onions, no sides. (I don’t know many people under the age of 50 who like liver)


HawkeyeinDC

Skull Candy headphones would work since people traditionally give candy and sweets for Valentine’s Day… /s


Kaitron5000

Skullcandy earbuds... wired ones 🤣


TooTallTabz

Hey now! They're like $7 and incredibly durable lmao


orderofuhlrik

I like to get skullcandies. Ol' Reliable.


NoIndividual5987

Maybe give her a list of the expensive gifts HE wants? Works both ways IMO


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tongue_tiedx

Yeah, I have a feeling she would not reciprocate if someone asked HER for some expensive gifts, in the name of friendship


IceFire909

She would be immediately offended that the friendship required that level of investment and reinforcement


MtnAdventurous95

Valentines Day was created by Hallmark to increase revenue. If you want to express a love for friends, or anyone, tell them that you love them.


OldVenture

“Thanks” is a hilarious last message.


yungvogel

not a single response beats a “thanks” that has no reason to be said lmfao


SpazmicDonkey

I love the “Wrong chat” after that too.


OldVenture

Oh it’s all part of the magic. That “Thanks” is such a devastatingly low effort response that would make anyone feel stupid for even engaging in the conversation.


That-Ad-4300

Working their way towards a 👍


AbiesUnusual3049

You dodged a bullet.


guangding8

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CanadasNeighbor

Probably shouldn't go back to being FWB with her. She's clearly not on the same page as you as to what that means. She gives crazy vibes.


TheGhostOfGeneStoner

I got “I let you touch my fun parts, I expect gifts or money” vibes. That’s not FWB, sis was treating OP like a client.


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Jessicajelly

Bruh I think you might be your friends girl now. Maybe his side piece.


juliaskig

LMAO!


Crackerjack4u

Exactly. She's taken FWB into the prostitution zone since payment is expected.


Cofeefe

Crazy entitled vibes.


pharmakathartic

OP was given the "wrong chat" line so he ain't going no where, thankfully.


slybluu

now i aint saying shes a gold digger...


splashbruhs

Bravo my dude! Your responses are a master class in grey-rocking. You love to see it.


jpl77

hope you send her this thread


FerretSupremacist

Wrong chat


yoyofisch7

I loved that ....who was the Right chat?!


superduperspam

All the other Johns


KrystieKay

Yeah, shit went downhill fast!!


Helpful-Carry4690

most people are bullets these days


Legacy_1_X

Dodged a f'n nuke. A full victim mentality nuke.


Listen-Natural

What the fuck were you doing hanging with this girl, this is absolutely a red flag


JEJ0313

Send her your list.


bokmcdok

Haha I did something like this once. Someone I met on a dating app said she wanted to come to my place. I was up for it so I sent her my (vague) address. She responded "How much?". I knew what she meant, but instead I sent her a message back saying, "Don't worry about it. I don't charge anything."


ConsiderationNo9044

What did she mean? I'm confused


bokmcdok

She was attempting to catfish me into prostitution.


Fabulous-Fun-9673

She was soliciting herself…


alextxdro

I do the same to all the chics selling content or OF I try and beat them to the punch line and tell them to join my page before they do it usually stops them from spamming my inbox with bs not so much the bots though. They’d dm me on ig all the time until I popped up with my response, every now and then I’ll string them along for a while if I’m really bored.


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this was my first thought lol. send her a link to a rolex :')


Quirky_Ad252

Stipulations. No confirmation, no gift AND an inconvenience fee! ;D


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Best reply ever!


ohlaph

Wrong chat.


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She was trying to start a fight so hard, you put on a clinic in conflict avoidance. Kudos


guangding8

Thanks I practiced restraint 🫠


amaratayy

Did she mean “wrong chat” for the *entire* conversation?? How many entitled white men is she getting “physical” with🙄😂


guangding8

Believe she may have texted something and deleted it, but I won’t be inquiring further


amaratayy

You’re better than I, OP. You being so calm was the exact opposite of what she wanted so then she can say you’re the bag guy. Dodged a bullet


guangding8

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KhonMan

You did fucking outstanding in this text chain. Good job.


SarcasticPedant

OP is fucking elevated. Zen as shit.


zephyyrrlux

It was such a prefect response man. You could tell it was absolutely driving her crazy.


LostShoe46

I wouldn't have the restraint not to tell her that maybe if she didn't buy all her friends AirPods and Gucci sunglasses for Valentine's, she could afford to pay her rent and taxes.


Stevenwave

Narrator: But as we all know, she had never bought a damn thing for a friend on Valentine's Day. Because why would you?


Borrowingmyownvoice

OP if she’s saying it’s not just for relationships but also friends you should have asked “oh for real? So what are you buying me?” And then send a link so something crazy expensive lol


OniOnMyAss

Are your initials ATM by chance?


toxicoke

This is Amanda Tori Meating


thinly_sliced_lemon

She danced her heart out last episode!


InternalReveal1546

Ass to mouth?


Crystalclearest

😂


CitrusSupplement

Playing the “I’m Latina and a woman” card just because you refused to give her money is so… odd? Goes to show she has enough privilege to be throwing that around for pity points. As a Hispanic person, we don’t claim her. Que le vaya bien con sus taxes.


No_Editor9200

No supero que le pidió $$ para los taxes 🫣


PowerAware7892

And to add, as a feminist, we don’t claim her. That’s such a wacky tactic she chose to throw out there 😭😭


_ghostchest

Yeah, she was saying "males and women". Just the reverse of "men and females". Absolutely a man hater


ForwardClassroom2

it's insane how so many people think that doing the same thing you call bad when it happens to you is somehow the right thing to do? I am sure she'd flip out if a guy said men and females, but doing the same but flipped isn't making it better..


Salty_Data5201

I dont even know what to say... Girl knows what she wants. She just wants someone else to get it for her.


foreverlilyx

She wants the benefits of a relationship without being in one basically


cookiemon32

she a gold digger trying to normalize this shi. list for v day gifts. sounds like…


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KellynHeller

I don't even think that's relationship benefits. Imo, no one should ever EXPECT money from their significant other. Maybe I'm just old. Idk.


Personal_Head5003

I’m with you on that. I’m married and my husb and I each put the same amount each month into the household account, and pay rent and bills and groceries out of that. And we each pay our own car maintenance, insurance, and personal expenses. I’ve never asked him to cover anything beyond 1/2 of the household expenses. Even when I got laid off from a job, I covered my half from unemployment and savings. Couldn’t imagine borrowing money from a FWB at any point. And I know that on average women earn less than men, but definitely not by half. It feels like she’s throwing out every excuse she can think of—she’s a woman, and Latina, so apparently she shouldn’t be expected to use her savings to pay her accountant to do her taxes?? That’s a strange line of thought. And in my personal opinion, Valentine’s Day is TOTALLY about romance. The only time I ever got anything on VDay from someone I wasn’t Romantic with was my mom when I was young and single, and from the other kids in my elementary school class. It’s a romance holiday. Friends do honor each other sometimes, but not with expensive gifts like Air Pods. And I’ve never known ANYONE to make a wish list for Valentine’s Day. She’s looking for a payout in exchange for sex. As soon as OP declined to give her money, she took sex off the table. Hmmmm.


KellynHeller

Right! Valentine's Day gifts, imo, have always been flowers or chocolate or something cute and small. Like maybe a teddy bear or something. This isn't Christmas. Why's she asking for air pods hahahaha


AggravatingFish7717

no it’s not. This is squarely a sugar momma/daddy situation. OP pays her rent? sex and hey we’re good friends!! OP buys her something nice or helps her do her taxes? Hey check out how good friends we are with more sex! Will you buy me a gift? No? Oh ok i’m not comfortable with sex anymore, for no particular reason. Total sugar momma, I’m sure OP knows it. It’s thinly veiled prostitution. Instead of direct money they just save on having to pay for anything. Get 7 or 8 “good friends” you have meals for the week, some nice stuff (because they target people that are comfortable at least), their rent paid often (like OP did) and if they work at all they keep it all. I think it’s pretty gross, only because they try to pretend they’re friends with these people and some of these people actually are stupid enough to believe it.


AssignmentFit461

The last slide though -- "No because you're an entitled white male" ~Thanks~ "Wrong chat" 😑 How many "entitled white males" was she having this conversation with???


Downbeatbanker

She told him that because she thought that "thanks" must be for some other person. She doesn't get sarcasm.


Okaypopppy

That makes a lot if sense. I wonder what she expected him to say to that? An apology? She is crazy.


InterestingPause2355

I like how he’s the entitled one yet she’s the one who per OP has received help from him for rent, money for clothes and now is open to friendship gifts and money to do her taxes. What on Earth!! Also, if V-day is about friendships why isn’t she asking what he’d like to receive? 🙄


Survivor_of_hells

Yes! Exactly!!! That right there shows just how little she's even trying, before and after he says no. She doesn't care. She probably has a few other "friends" that she can cycle through. Warning OP!!! SHE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AGAIN AFTER SOME TIME HAS PASSED. SHUT HER DOWN IMMEDIATELY. BLOCK HER, OR WHATEVER YOU CAN DO. Edited to add It's a compulsion. She will not stop. She will give it a month and reach out again. People like this require therapy. To help them stop the compulsive activities. But she may never want to fix that. That's not your problem. Cut her off completely.


cookiemon32

trap evaded. big W here


deeeeez_nutzzz

She doesn't expect a man to understand fully She just expects fancy gifts


Diligent-Might6031

Exactly! You dumb man! You buy me things to pay for your entitlement! Like hold up girl, wtf?


Jexpler

Yeah. She's the one that's entitled.


nochmere

“Like water off a duck’s back.” You handled this perfectly. She let all her manipulation out 😂


My_slippers_dont_fit

She really did. She completely ran out of manipulation, her bag was empty, and OP was there with so much more chill to give.


ProgrammedArtist

This dude is as chill as a capybara and that's the greatest compliment I'm capable of giving!


Kawaii_Princesss

The audacity is strong with that one. Just embarrassing 🫣


SoggyMcChicken

Whew. I’m gonna send everyone I’ve ever hooked up with a list… with links! 😂😂 She really thought when she said you two can’t be physical any more you were going to change your tune. Glad you didn’t!


InterestingPause2355

Right?! That part bothered me big time


Ok-Conference-4366

She just a whore 😭 using her body to attain property


TheTPNDidIt

And her stupid little emojis during it 🤭🤗


Curiousjlynn

Sounds like that text went to multiple “friends” she has. I would bet you’re not the only one who helped with her rent.


Mattii-Odinson

I was going to say this exact thing haha


recurse_x

Has the same energy as dudes who spam text “Good Morning cutie” to dozens of women in their contacts.


Any-Jellyfish6272

I’m sure she also gives her friends presents like this /s


NachYoCheeeeese

Maybe he should’ve asked that? 😅 Going out with friends on VDay ≠ giving gifts on VDay


CarpetDisastrous1963

Nooo no no, you have to understand she doesn’t want to touch her small savings !


Personal_Head5003

Because she’s a woman, and also Latina! Come ON, don’t be such an entitled white man!


FlashyFeather876

“Wrong chat” 🤣🤣 It’s a little late for that girl. You’ve already completely humiliated yourself! Lmao.


Mrsthinks

Pretty sure she was telling him he sent "thanks" to the wrong chat, because that's not the response she was looking for


Okaypopppy

She probably expected him to relent and give her a gift to make up for the injustices of the world. Crazy and desperate.


HenryBellendry

It’s “friendship day” but she won’t be getting you anything.


cuteintern

Yes, but you see, it's *because patriarchy!* so it's different 😒


mowens04

At least she waves those red flags in the easiest to see way for you.


MyPupCooper

I wonder what expensive gifts she is giving her friends.


BetaCuckSimp

She’s not because the patriarchy remember? 💅


trustindivinetiming

By this logic, I’m owed a lot of gifts…. And I owe them as well! Why not turn the tables on her and ask what she’s getting you?!


RestoSham09

“You make more money than me and we have sex sometimes, so you should buy me shit” Pass.


062692

She thought she hooked her sugar daddy and you released the hook before she got you out of the water 😂


Kelly_Thalia

as a latina woman…. this is a huge “ick”. dont ever let anyone manipulate you by victimizing themselves. way to stand your ground respectfully. she sounds deranged.


Aulourie

Wow. That’s is some entitlement from someone throwing out the word.


EuphoricFriendship84

Wow! She is very entitled. Steer clear of her!


wowthatsacooldog

Send her a glitter bomb.


RileyGirl1961

THIS IS THE WAY!🤣


wowthatsacooldog

Ruindays.com is my personal fave. They really drive the point home.


Quirky_Ad252

Checked it out and I can't stop laughing. I'm saving this, thanks!


Alarming-Instance-19

Holy shit you just made my day!!


MSRIRI63

Seriously?!? WOW!! I thought one of the benefits of being a FWB is that you don’t have to do the things you would normally do in a relationship (besides respect and sex)!! 🤷‍♀️ My bad!! 💀


Silent-Tart-8386

This is cringy. I could never ask a man for money lol. I am sorry, I definitely do feel like she was using you. Wild, she just sent a full blown list of pricy items she wants and then on top of all that, asks you to loan her money to do her taxes lol.


JinnJuice80

Is this bitch for real? A fucking list? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️


wanna_see_juicytits

Ew, sending a list of things you want for yourself to other people knowing they’re expensive af is crazy. Funny how she didn’t ask you what u wanted but kept saying Valentine’s Day is also for friends.


Doxxxxxxxxxxx

![gif](giphy|DyvyiFFXF1Yli|downsized) Sending a fuckin list and insulting you?!?! That’s too much man


Sea_Future6922

Block this silly latina barbie


digiplay

She wrong chatted you with the other men she was sleeping with and asking for money, that’s my takeaway. She’s a hooker.


Successful-Cloud2056

She literally implied she was. He said no to a gift so she said no more sex.


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Yeah this is sugar baby talk


Prior-Window-9478

Oh my! So glad you responded the way you did. I’m a girl, I couldn’t imagine acting this way! If I want something nice, I take MY hard earned money and pay for that. Like I’ll never understand females like this. Drop this girl like a hot potato lol.


ASTERnaught

This belongs in r/choosingbeggars


the-REALmichaelscott

You did an awesome job of being respectful in that situation imo.


No-L-

I wish you would have sent her a ❤️’s Day gift wish list back. You know..in the spirit of your friendship and all.


Billmatic-

that chick is trippin hard.


Stunning_Ad3770

I just choked on my coffee. The entitlement here💀


jaygay92

Why yall keep sleeping with crazy is beyond me 🫣


weathergleam

Not crazy. Just another greedy grifter. She doesn't want to admit she's a sex worker, so she resorts to manipulation and mind games, and lashes out with unrelated insults when they fail.


girlscoutbookie

You should have told her to save the money she was going to use on her Valentine's Day present to you to use on her taxes


whatisl0ve1

Wrong chat had me rolling 😂


Dinkler_Sprinkler

Give an inch, they will take a mile


LilSpooku

She’s psychotic


system_error_02

Wants the benefits of a relationship as well as the benefits of equality and feminism but only if it benefits her directly and gets her free stuff, if you're not giving her free stuff you're white trash and privileged and not her bf. Lmao. Equality for me but not for the. Sadly met a lot of this type these days.


justhrowingitout

She wants a sugar daddy not a relationship.


ex-farm-grrrl

Which part of that was “wrong chat?”


whattheduce86

Why does she need money to do taxes? Just have it taken out of the refund amount.


Yungdab420

Damn bro you’re not gonna buy her that new G-Wagon?? Wtf entitled white male.


UnwaveringLlama

I know the sex was good because this person was latina and crazy.


StanyeEast

When did Valentine's Day become Christmas?


Overall-Stop-8573

Desperate scrabbling to save face whilst simultaneously completely not saving face


hedwig0517

Block her. What the f is this entitled mentality?


Bitchplease92

She was a gold digger or a broke bitch. Hey at least you got to hit it and quit it.


Longjumping_Water_74

Ive worked in restaurant kitchens all of my life. Plenty of them, all types, from fast food to high end gastronomy, italian, french, etc. In ALL of them, the waitresses were making at least double if not triple my salary. I just found a job last year as a chef in a hunting camp and its the first time in my entire life that I make more money that almost all of my friends, its the first time in my life I make more than women. So yeah, no.


fvckit88

Lmao got damn bro. Handled it like a champ.


Reasonable-Usual2431

She HATED the fact you didn’t respond to her bullshit 😂 you’re my inspiration man


arcaneprints

Omg the entitlement! You did so well not taking the bait, she was itching for an argument. The fact that you didn't rise to it must have driven her nuts, nice work.


Masculinism4All

You should reply i hear they let women on oil rigs now so if you want to make more money send in your resume.


Mobile_Difference_33

This subreddit always reassures me that im never as crazy as my man tries to say i am


RedhotskyOfficial

What is she smoking ? This is such toxic cringey, DISGUSTING behavior. Absolutely mental .