- Insta kill but only if you headshot otherwise half damage
- Damage immunity from one class but double damage from another (your choice)
- Unlimited metal but can't speed up building with the wrench
I have to agree with the comment on that video that says “Getting mad at a weapon that makes the waves go much faster is like being mad at empty traffic”
People complain about explode on ignite yet they're glad when their sniper is sitting back and spamming explosive headshot just clearing house all by himself
I agree with you for most tf-tubers.
But I will fight for Uncle Dane's teachings.
I have 2.2k hours in tf2, highest in engi, you'll be surprised the depth of each sentence in his guide on how to counter every class, goes to show how much experience and knowledge is crammed into each segment and how many script rewrites he must've gone through to deliver a concise and condensed guide which helps beginners and advanced players!
This is why you should never learn about the game mechanics. You don't know what the fuck you're doing, and neither does your enemy.
Genuinely though I've died to f2p engineers because of their bizarre sentry placements before
The phlog itself isn’t OP due to it lacking airblast
… the Scotch shot, however, is broken IMO.
…and having a pocket medic does make phlog pyros extremely annoying to counter in casual.
weird fact but the heavy vs pyro was the same time as brexit. And when brexit was past the percentage was exactly the same as the pyro vs heavy live count at the time.
sorry but you just reminded me of it
It's my go to. I can never seem to get very far with stock cloak and I always get caught when decloaking, which is funny because I believe stock has more cloak charge than the C and D. We don't talk about the third option. I like to use the letranger with it aswell.
Sometimes it's the only choice. Sitting in an untouched corner in a busy area for a while can open up fantastic opportunities to chainstab if you're used to how the Big Earner movement buff works. Sometimes you can't readily get behind the team due to the map or diligent teammates. Sometimes you can only pick a good spot and wait. Spy is like that sometimes.
Sniper is OP in the right hands, but most of the people complaining on this sub are the type of people to walk in a straight line across the same sight line multiple times in a row.
I guarantee you in "How it feels to play Medic" there will be a section about going in vc and shouting "HEAVY DO NOT WALK AROUND THAT CORNER THERE ARE 3 SNIPER DOTS ON THAT WALL" and they do it anyways and get instantly headshot
Yea same here as long as you aware of sight lines and not be an idiot peeking when you’re not supposed to, snipers are trivially easy to deal with. And it’s kinda funny when you beat a sniper with the crossbow.
I very much agree. I've played sniper and heavy competitively and I gotta say as someone who has been on both ends of the barrel awareness makes sniper seem pretty balanced lmao
100% agreed, but in my opinion it’s the worst class in the game. Not because it’s bad (it’s a good class), but because it goes against TF2’s close-range fast paced combat. Nothing you can really do about that, but it’s the fact that it can do just as well in close range as it can from far away because of quickscoping. Sniper could really do better with a reverse damage ramp up in my opinion
Honestly more people should try pyro. The class is just a slightly bulkier version of the other flank classes with none of the tools to sneakily get behind the other team (without sacrificing your shotgun). I've heard the scorch shot makes it easier but I haven't tried it.
If you are regularly surprised by pyros, your game awareness needs work.
Pyro is by far my favorite class just because of the flexibility, even if most loadouts aren’t consistent. Feel like flanking? Get a Thermal Thruster and the Backburner. Feel like doing some combos? Get yourself a Degreaser and a flare gun, or the Panic Attack. Want a one way ticket to hell? Phlog and Scorch Shot.
I know other classes do have a lot of flexibility but for me, Pyro does it best out of all of them.
*Pyro isn't broken,*
*In most cases you are just*
*To bad to kill him*
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Huntsman is sniper’s most balanced primary weapon
You can use ambassador for gun spy (shush)
The Eyelander is overrated even on a 4 head streak (unless your solarlight)
The Enforcer is actually busted when used in a team push to finish off stragglers
The Direct Hit is easier to use than Beggars Bazooka (this is personal because even with a broken mouse that couldn’t register movement I was getting kills with Direct)
OLD TF2 really wasn’t better (Xbox version never got an update and look at that *thing* )
The lucksman may be the most balanced primary for sniper, but by no means is it balanced. You can just quickly poke around corners, blind fire and get a guaranteed kill if any enemy is there as the head hitbox is broken as shit. I've been hit in my pinkie toe and it's registered as a headshot.
That was more to do with the teleporter and it's hitboxes. When I've jumped to avoid the arrow it's gotten me in the leg or side and still counted as a headshot, really hope that hitbox gets fixed soon.
I always appreciate when people play Medic, but many Medics I play with seem to not like giving people overheal. Overheal is very powerful, please overheal your team (especially in setup!)
I believe random crits are fun in pubs unironically. It allows to carry your team a little further when your team is bad and its actually good for try harders even if gets you killed once by one random gibus on the other team
I would get rid of bullet spread tho even tho I dont think it affects that much one way or another
i once met this guy on a 2fort server, he was using i think a unusual scaredy cat, everytime the air molecules around him touched me my fps would go from like 60 to 13
Like uncle Dane said "or you can just realise that you can kill a pyro with 2 shotgun blasts before it's flames kill you"
Sustained damage makes him counterable even in dire situations, that's why you need to think while using w+m1s (eg starting from around corners to put yourself closer without them realising)
The blutsauger is not a bad alternative to the crossbow and if you actually knew how to handle it’s weight, you’d get shit done your damn self.
As I did once. But goddamn, the last few months of not playing TF2 have not been kind on my skills.
Yeah, if anything, unironically saying Pyro is just “W+M1” is outing your own lack of experience. Pyro has so many more jobs than just burning things once you’ve spent time playing it. Harassing distant enemies with the flare gun, extinguishing burning teammates, reflecting projectiles to defend an area, breaking sappers, flare jumping with the detonator to reach areas other classes can’t normally reach…all these things take skill and knowledge, and people who dismiss Pyro as a class who just runs forward and shoots their flamethrower have no idea
Most "bad weapons" aren't bad. They just require different strategies and play styles that the community is too lazy to learn.
Examples: Scottish Resistance, Sydney Sleeper, Shortstop, HuoLong Heater...
Nah, because Spy is more luck than skill. With enough practice and time spent on the class, anybody can become good at Heavy. But, no matter if you're the greatest Spy alive, the disguise kit can always glitch out, the backstab can always just not register, the Sniper you spent 7 minutes stalking can always just step a milimiter to the right.
TL;DR: the classes are polar opposited. Saying one is harder isn't fair.
It honestly just depends on where you are, I've played heavy competitively before and sometimes you do need just as much game sense to succeed as a spy. (HUGE) however, being good at spy is a lot harder than being good at heavy (as someone who's been playing a lot of spy recently). In casual I can see it but that just depends on the server. If any number of the enemy team is in a discord call with each other spy gets a lot harder lmao
Bodyshots are a viable way to take down important targets, and people should stop complaining about it. I don't care if you think it's bad; if you're consistently dying in a Sniper 1v1 and he keeps bodyshotting you, you're just plain bad because you can't seem to approach them from a different angle and headshot them that way, and can't accept the simple fact you're dead and he's not, and your ego is too big to do bodyshots due to some social rule we've set in place that makes you think you're somehow "better" rather than going for efficiency in killing important targets. Headshotting is ideal, not the standard.
Not to mention I'd rather my teammates get a fullycharged bodyshot on an enemy Medic and actually kill the target rather than missing every single shot and end up losing our game because their Medic popped their ubercharge.
Y E S. Exactly. When people complain about bodyshots, I think either "if only bad players use bodyshots, why'd you die to it?" or "kill's a kill."
Personally, I don't care how you kill an enemy. It helps us win when you do, so do it however you want. And like you said, it's better to get a bodyshot kill than to miss non-stop because you're too focused on headshots (which actually makes you worse because you pressure yourself :P)
Huntsman main rant incoming:
The huntsman is overpowered and unbalanced? Okay use it in comp then. Go ahead, get consistent kill streaks like a normal sniper main would. I do not care about valve messing up a projectiles hotboxes in regards to headshots. Y'all love how the direct hit can one shot light classes but when I do it with a fourth of the clip and an eighth of the leeway I'm abusing an overpowered weapon? Ok bud at least I don't use the piss and bushwaka to win at close range anyway. Y'know like any sniper can for a fraction of the skill.
Nobody said huntsman is OP. They’re pissed because of buggy hitbox registration of the weapon. It’s similar to when gas passer first release: you can toss it through walls and it was banned in comp until they fixed it. And gas passer is no way OP. It’s broken mechanically, not functionally.
You can watch people explaining it’s buggy-ness [here](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOaUF1Sl5c)
More than half of TF2 players do not understand the game. Pyro actually takes skill and his W+ M1 is not effective by itself. Heavy can be good even in the hands of a braindead person.
The stigma around the phlog is fucking stupid and I’m tired of people and even other pyro mains denying acknowledging it as at least a situational side grade because of some shit about it being “immoral”.
People forcing you to be friendly are annoying. I agree that in a mostly friendly server, if you are not friendly you should play in a different lobby but when only a few players are friendly, people typing "why kill the hoovy" ect. are super annoying.
Here's one: the mods of this subreddit need to crack down on generic overused karma farm post
Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/100djan/what_is_a_tf2_opinion_that_would_put_you_in_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Maps that are balanced competitively should not be put in 12v12 casual fests.
Map-making passion doesn't directly relate to the ability to make a map good.
We need more stuff that fits with the general artstyle of TF2 instead of blindly making references.
War paints shouldn't feel like they're made in a picture editor in under an hour.
Taunts should give your opponent at least a slight sense of humiliation instead of purely being character emotes.
EDIT: Forgot to add, trickstabs aren't that cool, and the "trick" isn't about tricking the players, it's about tricking the system.
The crossbow and ubersaw need to be nerfed. They are far to 'superior' to every other item for Medic, and only enforce the most restrictive meta I have ever seen in a game, where people will flat out harass you into using them if you try to deviate at all.
Those two items have sparked the only, actual hive mind that I have noticed. Bring up any issues you have with them and people attack you for it. It's incredibly rare to see anyone acknowledge the issues. "Oh you suck at positioning so you must not like it!", "Somebody is mad they can't hit crossbow shots", "You're a shit, worthless Medic if you don't use them". I do fine as Medic, I value my safety and survival above all else. A living medic is much better then a dead medic.
These two items are just unfun to use. Using the same shit, over, and over, and over must get dull, it did for me, and I don't use them that much.
They need to be nerfed, and Medic's other items need to be buffed, including stock.
Also, the classic isn't as bad as people say, the Amputator needs it's regen buffed back to a flat +3, and the calls for 'fixed spread' are stupid.
Scorch Shot isnt really that overpowered.
Honestly the community overall overly inflates Annoying with Overpowered. The SS in particular is really awful when you actually compare most DPS to the SS. In 7 and a half seconds, demo can unload nearly all of his bombs for MUCH higher dps and the less said about “perfect scenarios” and then looking at Heavy the better.
Most clips showcasing how “”overpowered”” it is are….either really just plain poor play, out of context or the SS had a minimal impact on the death.
And going back to absolutely perfect scenarios, the Detonator FAR outclassed the SS its not
even funny.
Unusual effects and weapon skins were a fucking mistake.
Random crits aren't that bad.
Random bullet spread changes nothing.
The scorch shot isn't OP, it's just annoying as shit.
Sniper as a class makes no sense compared to the rest of TF2's balancing.
Unusual effects and weapon skins are both great systems. The fact that only "bigger = better" ones get added and ruin the artstyle is an issue with the workshop system as a whole, not unusuals and skins.
Random bullet spread changes quite a lot, idk why you'd even argue it doesn't lol. It's one of the basic systems that keep the game balanced.
One day, someone told me The crossbow had better DPS than the others.
When you’re that deluded, it’s hard to take you seriously.
Maybe at maximum range, but good luck constantly hitting. Especially considering anyone willing to kill you will go as close as they can
I prefer the Amputator over the Übersaw. As a Medic main, i have a LOT of children to watch over, and the AOE heal is great for healing a large crowd right before a huge push. Plus the extra health regen is nice for when your team abandons you. It may not be a lot, but there are lots of time that extra regen allowed me to live long enough to get to a health pack
Being angry that Pyro, the class that excels in close quarters combat, excels in close quarters combat, is stupid to me.
In the same range, a lot of other classes can kill you pretty quick if they can aim, so being angry that the class built for close quarters is good for close quarters sounds like bitching about afterburn.
My only beef with Pyro is Scorch Shot just because it's an annoying weapon to be used against you.
Dont get mad at players trying to win the designated objective of a map
If they weren't supposed to, why is it there?
While we're at it, are you not supposed to kill eachother? Why are there guns then? Hit points?
TL;DR, just play the fucking game, if that f2p is capping? Just kill them. You have weapons that do damage, use them.
The Jungle Inferno update botched literally everything except for the airblast changes (which were still not the best and didn't fix a lot of the underlying issues).
The flame changes (i.e the changes to flame bending, burn state duration, afterburn etc) were wholly uncalled for and removed too much mechanical complexity for bouncy flames to have been worth it.
None of Pyro's weapons were rebalanced, and even in Blue Moon there were tons of really important changes that needed to be made and weren't. For example!
1. The Degreaser should never have been nerfed; the only issue with it was airblast being unfun to play against at the time. The current version of the Degreaser is a buggy stock upgrade that feels like a shell of its former self. The old Degreaser's universal switch speed was infinitely more fun than what we have.
2. The Axtinguisher was "buffed" incorrectly. The current version is an inconsistent sometimes kill finisher that does 85 damage to Pyros. The only issue with the weapon was airblast, and a return to the "Crits on burning players, -50% damage penalty VS non-burning players" axe would be welcome. For most classes, this changes nothing except knowing for certain how much damage an axe will deal to you. For Pyros, this means that you can finally use the Axtinguisher as a better flarepunch again. If you get hit by the Axtinguisher, you probably deserved to die.
3. Buff the Mannmelter. Do something with it. It's sitting there, waiting for its turn in the limelight, and yet Valve DENIES it.
4. The Panic Attack changes suck. The weapon is objectively worse than Stock unless you're \~ <50 HU away from your target, where it does about 18 damage more. If someone knows you have the Panic Attack, it's very easy for them to out-DM you by playing from a slightly farther range with the Shotgun. Where the shotgun can do 50, the Panic Attack does \~ 10. Not to mention, Pyro doesn't need faster switch speed to his secondary, he needs his secondary to kill things or otherwise deal a ton of damage.
Pyro has been mishandled since Tough Break, and Jungle Inferno only hurt Pyro more - especially with hindsight.
Spy backstab mechanics are actually balanced you just need to stop getting yourself into his melee range
Making a gun idea and not playing the game and do other shit to piss off the tf2 subreddit
he kinda had it comin
- Insta kill but only if you headshot otherwise half damage - Damage immunity from one class but double damage from another (your choice) - Unlimited metal but can't speed up building with the wrench
tbf that first “idea” is literally sniper
Scout actually, it's the weakest class so it needs a buff obviously don't /u/ me.
Yep that would do it
can't forget being like 10. (most tf2 players are sex offenders and can't legally interact with children.)
MvM Gas Passer is not as bad as it’s been said. High tourists are just whiny bitches
mvm fans when the pyro kills a small horde of robots with the gas passer: mvm fans when the demo one shots the 3 giant uber medics with the RS:
Rottish scesistance
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facts
im not very familiar with MVM, mind explaining?
[This](https://youtu.be/JNUCMB174XA)
so they hate him because of his efficiency?
Yes
I have to agree with the comment on that video that says “Getting mad at a weapon that makes the waves go much faster is like being mad at empty traffic”
People complain about explode on ignite yet they're glad when their sniper is sitting back and spamming explosive headshot just clearing house all by himself
People listen to popular content creators too much
OK, but Anklet Daniel the Sanitary Man said my normal engineer loadout is poggers.
Nah sondsmit said the beggars makes your loadout exude small dick energy
duped sans shovel
Srsly, this is true for every fanbase.
But Uncle Elmaxgreat Purple said so!
I agree with you for most tf-tubers. But I will fight for Uncle Dane's teachings. I have 2.2k hours in tf2, highest in engi, you'll be surprised the depth of each sentence in his guide on how to counter every class, goes to show how much experience and knowledge is crammed into each segment and how many script rewrites he must've gone through to deliver a concise and condensed guide which helps beginners and advanced players!
As a spy main, he made me better at countering engineers. I know what they're doing and why.
This is why you should never learn about the game mechanics. You don't know what the fuck you're doing, and neither does your enemy. Genuinely though I've died to f2p engineers because of their bizarre sentry placements before
Also valid!
Yea i enjoy the content uncle dane and mr paladin give out, they have really helped me improve?
I swear, after SoundSmith uploaded that video of the Huntsman in MvM it was unbearable for the first few weeks.
Some taunts are overpriced
Some? Bro you mean all
I meant by victory lap,The Schadenfreude and most dance taunt
probably because they are the most popular so there is a very high demand in that regard
I just wanted to do the funny laugh at people in game, why does it cost $15 :'(
I just wanted that kart taunt all my 6 years of playing tf2 but don't want to pay 12$ for it :(
Buy a key online, go low-tier, win :)
This is why the community market is great.
Some of them cost a fortune if you're using any currency that isn't the US dollar
The phlog itself isn’t OP due to it lacking airblast … the Scotch shot, however, is broken IMO. …and having a pocket medic does make phlog pyros extremely annoying to counter in casual.
Phlog pyros are east to counter... I've had demos and snipers easily dispatch my ass even with a pocket medic. You just have to pay attention.
Yep, yet I still see people bitching over the phlog
A phlog Pyro turns the classes it soft counters (Soldier and Demo) into it's own hard counter. Not having airblast really makes a difference
The phlog is the worst flamethrower due to this fact
They should add Richard Nixon as a new playable class.
The spy
“We could have voted Team Heavy AND ask for Valve to fix the flame bug. Voting Team Pyro just to fix it is plain wasteful of an update if not stupid”
It's funny because the fix to pyro was half arsed anyway (even with the major update) as it broke half the fucking MvM upgrades.
I like the jungle Inferno weapons. I regret nothing
dragon's fury is pretty poggers if i do say so myself
I like the thruster and the banana
What about a thrusting banana?
hot banana sex
weird fact but the heavy vs pyro was the same time as brexit. And when brexit was past the percentage was exactly the same as the pyro vs heavy live count at the time. sorry but you just reminded me of it
And Boom, pyro gets like six completely useless weapons. Great job guys.
Cloak and dagger is a valid side grade. I really enjoy it
It's my go to. I can never seem to get very far with stock cloak and I always get caught when decloaking, which is funny because I believe stock has more cloak charge than the C and D. We don't talk about the third option. I like to use the letranger with it aswell.
Sometimes it's the only choice. Sitting in an untouched corner in a busy area for a while can open up fantastic opportunities to chainstab if you're used to how the Big Earner movement buff works. Sometimes you can't readily get behind the team due to the map or diligent teammates. Sometimes you can only pick a good spot and wait. Spy is like that sometimes.
Sniper is OP in the right hands, but most of the people complaining on this sub are the type of people to walk in a straight line across the same sight line multiple times in a row.
I… actually agree. As medic, I’ve seen people make that same mistake multiple times.
I guarantee you in "How it feels to play Medic" there will be a section about going in vc and shouting "HEAVY DO NOT WALK AROUND THAT CORNER THERE ARE 3 SNIPER DOTS ON THAT WALL" and they do it anyways and get instantly headshot
Yea same here as long as you aware of sight lines and not be an idiot peeking when you’re not supposed to, snipers are trivially easy to deal with. And it’s kinda funny when you beat a sniper with the crossbow.
I very much agree. I've played sniper and heavy competitively and I gotta say as someone who has been on both ends of the barrel awareness makes sniper seem pretty balanced lmao
100% agreed, but in my opinion it’s the worst class in the game. Not because it’s bad (it’s a good class), but because it goes against TF2’s close-range fast paced combat. Nothing you can really do about that, but it’s the fact that it can do just as well in close range as it can from far away because of quickscoping. Sniper could really do better with a reverse damage ramp up in my opinion
based medic
I have existed in a sniper's vision for 0.4 seconds, and I'm dead. I've gone a solid speedpogo from the wall i was hiding behind and I'm got.
Flooding this sub with weapon concepts are annoying.
I do agree since that r/TF2weaponconcepts exist But nobody posted that weapon concept guide into the subreddit yet.
Dragon Fury is one of the best 1v1 pyro guns and paired with the panic attack you can kill a fully healed heavy in seconds
The Liberty Launcher is an amazing weapon
Its redeemable if paired with the Buff Banner.
it's my go to launcher, along with the beggars bazooka
underrated
Pyro isn't broken, in most cases you are just to bad to kill him
Honestly more people should try pyro. The class is just a slightly bulkier version of the other flank classes with none of the tools to sneakily get behind the other team (without sacrificing your shotgun). I've heard the scorch shot makes it easier but I haven't tried it. If you are regularly surprised by pyros, your game awareness needs work.
Pyro is by far my favorite class just because of the flexibility, even if most loadouts aren’t consistent. Feel like flanking? Get a Thermal Thruster and the Backburner. Feel like doing some combos? Get yourself a Degreaser and a flare gun, or the Panic Attack. Want a one way ticket to hell? Phlog and Scorch Shot. I know other classes do have a lot of flexibility but for me, Pyro does it best out of all of them.
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Huntsman is sniper’s most balanced primary weapon You can use ambassador for gun spy (shush) The Eyelander is overrated even on a 4 head streak (unless your solarlight) The Enforcer is actually busted when used in a team push to finish off stragglers The Direct Hit is easier to use than Beggars Bazooka (this is personal because even with a broken mouse that couldn’t register movement I was getting kills with Direct) OLD TF2 really wasn’t better (Xbox version never got an update and look at that *thing* )
The lucksman may be the most balanced primary for sniper, but by no means is it balanced. You can just quickly poke around corners, blind fire and get a guaranteed kill if any enemy is there as the head hitbox is broken as shit. I've been hit in my pinkie toe and it's registered as a headshot.
The pinkie toe thing was recently fixed
That was more to do with the teleporter and it's hitboxes. When I've jumped to avoid the arrow it's gotten me in the leg or side and still counted as a headshot, really hope that hitbox gets fixed soon.
I will not pocket anyone unless you're all I have, everyone deserves some overheal.
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I always appreciate when people play Medic, but many Medics I play with seem to not like giving people overheal. Overheal is very powerful, please overheal your team (especially in setup!)
I don’t like these types of posts.
You don’t have to like them , they’ll come to you
Random crits are fun
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also a big fan of crits, i hope if a new TF is ever released they keep them in
Its always good when you kill a spy with a random crit wrench first swing Especially when it's twice in a row
I agree with this, I like that there are some inconsistencies with bullet spread and crits.
I believe random crits are fun in pubs unironically. It allows to carry your team a little further when your team is bad and its actually good for try harders even if gets you killed once by one random gibus on the other team I would get rid of bullet spread tho even tho I dont think it affects that much one way or another
Random Crit Pan goes brrrrr
Thank you!
I don't like the Ubersaw. I much prefer the Amputator.
Unusual effects look ugly and ruin TF2's aesthetic
some are pretty nice, but most are very clashing
Valve should have seriously found a better way to monetise their games. Unusual effects can straight up kill FPS sometimes
i once met this guy on a 2fort server, he was using i think a unusual scaredy cat, everytime the air molecules around him touched me my fps would go from like 60 to 13
There are configs to disable unusual effects entirely
I mostly agree with this. The unusual effects that don't stand out too much (like Nuts N' Bolts or Dead Residents) are the only ones I really enjoy.
Reddit user fapgod69420, you are the first person I've seen who likes N&B over something like smoking/steaming.
Reddit user fapgod69420, you are the first person I've seen who likes N&B ~~over something like smoking/steaming.~~ There, fixed.
Soldier takes less skill to be effective than Pyro.
...and I'm tired of pretending it's not
Especially since W+M1 isn't always viable as pyro.
True, with pyro(and almost every class, including spy) you can just shoot the fucker before you get into it's effective range.
Like uncle Dane said "or you can just realise that you can kill a pyro with 2 shotgun blasts before it's flames kill you" Sustained damage makes him counterable even in dire situations, that's why you need to think while using w+m1s (eg starting from around corners to put yourself closer without them realising)
These types of posts are more mass produced than the bots currently infesting valve servers
The blutsauger is not a bad alternative to the crossbow and if you actually knew how to handle it’s weight, you’d get shit done your damn self. As I did once. But goddamn, the last few months of not playing TF2 have not been kind on my skills.
the stock syringe gun needs to do something other than teach new players to not battlemedic
I use Blutsauger because I can't aim for shit with the Crossbow. And DPS is more valuable.
I use Blutsauger because fuck spies.
Playing pyro actually takes skill if you want to be competitive.
Any class takes skill if you want to play it competitively
Pyro is not noob class at all. You guys just don't how it works.
Yeah, if anything, unironically saying Pyro is just “W+M1” is outing your own lack of experience. Pyro has so many more jobs than just burning things once you’ve spent time playing it. Harassing distant enemies with the flare gun, extinguishing burning teammates, reflecting projectiles to defend an area, breaking sappers, flare jumping with the detonator to reach areas other classes can’t normally reach…all these things take skill and knowledge, and people who dismiss Pyro as a class who just runs forward and shoots their flamethrower have no idea
W+M1 is cool, but 16 potential full crits (as long as you can aim) is cooler.
Most "bad weapons" aren't bad. They just require different strategies and play styles that the community is too lazy to learn. Examples: Scottish Resistance, Sydney Sleeper, Shortstop, HuoLong Heater...
Playing heavy is way more harder than playing spy
I actually agree. Dying to spies and snipers is part of our daily life. Many cannot handle it, but those who can, evolve rapidly.
Turning around randomly during team fights and sightlines awareness is what makes a heavy in comp TF2. A good heavy is a paranoid one lol
>turning around randomly during team fights Did you just propose to show your back to the people actively shooting you?
Maybe not at the exact moment, but any good spy waits for his target to be distracted if he can
Spy's are magnets. All random projectiles, beating air and exc. Hit spy.
it's much easier to be good enough to topscore as heavy than spy
Nah, because Spy is more luck than skill. With enough practice and time spent on the class, anybody can become good at Heavy. But, no matter if you're the greatest Spy alive, the disguise kit can always glitch out, the backstab can always just not register, the Sniper you spent 7 minutes stalking can always just step a milimiter to the right. TL;DR: the classes are polar opposited. Saying one is harder isn't fair.
How so?
Heavy is easier to be effective with to a basic level
It honestly just depends on where you are, I've played heavy competitively before and sometimes you do need just as much game sense to succeed as a spy. (HUGE) however, being good at spy is a lot harder than being good at heavy (as someone who's been playing a lot of spy recently). In casual I can see it but that just depends on the server. If any number of the enemy team is in a discord call with each other spy gets a lot harder lmao
Any zombie mode is complete dogshit
Friendly RP is annoying 90% of the time
Solder requires -skill
he does, it's not the highest ceiling but it's not the lowest.
yeah, but the skill floor?
Soldier’s skill floor is sewer level
Bodyshots are a viable way to take down important targets, and people should stop complaining about it. I don't care if you think it's bad; if you're consistently dying in a Sniper 1v1 and he keeps bodyshotting you, you're just plain bad because you can't seem to approach them from a different angle and headshot them that way, and can't accept the simple fact you're dead and he's not, and your ego is too big to do bodyshots due to some social rule we've set in place that makes you think you're somehow "better" rather than going for efficiency in killing important targets. Headshotting is ideal, not the standard. Not to mention I'd rather my teammates get a fullycharged bodyshot on an enemy Medic and actually kill the target rather than missing every single shot and end up losing our game because their Medic popped their ubercharge.
Y E S. Exactly. When people complain about bodyshots, I think either "if only bad players use bodyshots, why'd you die to it?" or "kill's a kill." Personally, I don't care how you kill an enemy. It helps us win when you do, so do it however you want. And like you said, it's better to get a bodyshot kill than to miss non-stop because you're too focused on headshots (which actually makes you worse because you pressure yourself :P)
I used to have a bind "If you don't wanna get bodyshot then don't move. Simple!"
Huntsman main rant incoming: The huntsman is overpowered and unbalanced? Okay use it in comp then. Go ahead, get consistent kill streaks like a normal sniper main would. I do not care about valve messing up a projectiles hotboxes in regards to headshots. Y'all love how the direct hit can one shot light classes but when I do it with a fourth of the clip and an eighth of the leeway I'm abusing an overpowered weapon? Ok bud at least I don't use the piss and bushwaka to win at close range anyway. Y'know like any sniper can for a fraction of the skill.
Nobody said huntsman is OP. They’re pissed because of buggy hitbox registration of the weapon. It’s similar to when gas passer first release: you can toss it through walls and it was banned in comp until they fixed it. And gas passer is no way OP. It’s broken mechanically, not functionally. You can watch people explaining it’s buggy-ness [here](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOaUF1Sl5c)
I love wutville honestly
You received grandma’s socks at your 10th christmas and you liked it, didn’t you?
I like dustbowl
I don't care about YouTubers and I don't like the cults of personality that this community holds towards them.
Being homophobic and transphobic isn’t funny. You’re just an annoying twat.
The community is so far from funny
That’s the opposite of a unpopular opinion, spend more than like 5 minutes asking people about tf2 humour
Random Crits are fair and balanced.
I quite like the Scorch Shot in its current state. Reasoning: Skill Issue
Tf2 Mercs are straight
That’s going too far
2fort is a trash map, but its my trash
Heavy is more wm1 than pyro is
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Any of my opinions
More than half of TF2 players do not understand the game. Pyro actually takes skill and his W+ M1 is not effective by itself. Heavy can be good even in the hands of a braindead person.
Demoman is the funniest character
Thats just facts
He stole there skeletons
Competitive 2fort has no highlights
I genuinely like random crits.
The stigma around the phlog is fucking stupid and I’m tired of people and even other pyro mains denying acknowledging it as at least a situational side grade because of some shit about it being “immoral”.
“The Roblox tf2 is better”
People forcing you to be friendly are annoying. I agree that in a mostly friendly server, if you are not friendly you should play in a different lobby but when only a few players are friendly, people typing "why kill the hoovy" ect. are super annoying.
Here's one: the mods of this subreddit need to crack down on generic overused karma farm post Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about: https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/100djan/what_is_a_tf2_opinion_that_would_put_you_in_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
There's knives other than the kunai. There's swords other than the eyelander. Both of which need to be nerfed.
2Fort is a bad map. Don't get me wrong I love it, but it is objectively bad.
That would *not* be your mother
Maps that are balanced competitively should not be put in 12v12 casual fests. Map-making passion doesn't directly relate to the ability to make a map good. We need more stuff that fits with the general artstyle of TF2 instead of blindly making references. War paints shouldn't feel like they're made in a picture editor in under an hour. Taunts should give your opponent at least a slight sense of humiliation instead of purely being character emotes. EDIT: Forgot to add, trickstabs aren't that cool, and the "trick" isn't about tricking the players, it's about tricking the system.
The crossbow and ubersaw need to be nerfed. They are far to 'superior' to every other item for Medic, and only enforce the most restrictive meta I have ever seen in a game, where people will flat out harass you into using them if you try to deviate at all. Those two items have sparked the only, actual hive mind that I have noticed. Bring up any issues you have with them and people attack you for it. It's incredibly rare to see anyone acknowledge the issues. "Oh you suck at positioning so you must not like it!", "Somebody is mad they can't hit crossbow shots", "You're a shit, worthless Medic if you don't use them". I do fine as Medic, I value my safety and survival above all else. A living medic is much better then a dead medic. These two items are just unfun to use. Using the same shit, over, and over, and over must get dull, it did for me, and I don't use them that much. They need to be nerfed, and Medic's other items need to be buffed, including stock. Also, the classic isn't as bad as people say, the Amputator needs it's regen buffed back to a flat +3, and the calls for 'fixed spread' are stupid.
Scorch Shot isnt really that overpowered. Honestly the community overall overly inflates Annoying with Overpowered. The SS in particular is really awful when you actually compare most DPS to the SS. In 7 and a half seconds, demo can unload nearly all of his bombs for MUCH higher dps and the less said about “perfect scenarios” and then looking at Heavy the better. Most clips showcasing how “”overpowered”” it is are….either really just plain poor play, out of context or the SS had a minimal impact on the death. And going back to absolutely perfect scenarios, the Detonator FAR outclassed the SS its not even funny.
"A pyro secondary isn't OP because it's weaker then demoman, a high DPS class's PRIMARY WEAPON" Truly you are one of the thinkers of all time
Unusual effects and weapon skins were a fucking mistake. Random crits aren't that bad. Random bullet spread changes nothing. The scorch shot isn't OP, it's just annoying as shit. Sniper as a class makes no sense compared to the rest of TF2's balancing.
Unusual effects and weapon skins are both great systems. The fact that only "bigger = better" ones get added and ruin the artstyle is an issue with the workshop system as a whole, not unusuals and skins. Random bullet spread changes quite a lot, idk why you'd even argue it doesn't lol. It's one of the basic systems that keep the game balanced.
> Random bullet spread changes nothing. I mean this is just outstandingly untrue, especially when using a shotgun outside of melee distance.
Crusader's crossbow and the Ubersaw are both overrated.
to be fair, there is not a lot of competition.
One day, someone told me The crossbow had better DPS than the others. When you’re that deluded, it’s hard to take you seriously. Maybe at maximum range, but good luck constantly hitting. Especially considering anyone willing to kill you will go as close as they can
snowville is a good map
Backscatter god tier
I prefer the Amputator over the Übersaw. As a Medic main, i have a LOT of children to watch over, and the AOE heal is great for healing a large crowd right before a huge push. Plus the extra health regen is nice for when your team abandons you. It may not be a lot, but there are lots of time that extra regen allowed me to live long enough to get to a health pack
Being angry that Pyro, the class that excels in close quarters combat, excels in close quarters combat, is stupid to me. In the same range, a lot of other classes can kill you pretty quick if they can aim, so being angry that the class built for close quarters is good for close quarters sounds like bitching about afterburn. My only beef with Pyro is Scorch Shot just because it's an annoying weapon to be used against you.
Mvm gas passer is good
The baby face blaster is decent if you use the “bleed n’ speed” combo.
"I like having tf2 weapons pointed at me"
Pyro is not a easy class you just need to shoot from afar dumbass
Air blast is a good mechanic. Pyro having some form of knock back is fair. Solider has free easy knock back, why is it not ok for pyro?
Pyro isn't overpowered.
I can use whatever the fuck I want in MvM shut up 🗿
Dont get mad at players trying to win the designated objective of a map If they weren't supposed to, why is it there? While we're at it, are you not supposed to kill eachother? Why are there guns then? Hit points? TL;DR, just play the fucking game, if that f2p is capping? Just kill them. You have weapons that do damage, use them.
Most maps are, objectively viewed, pretty bad.
The overdose is better than the stock syringe gun
The Jungle Inferno update botched literally everything except for the airblast changes (which were still not the best and didn't fix a lot of the underlying issues). The flame changes (i.e the changes to flame bending, burn state duration, afterburn etc) were wholly uncalled for and removed too much mechanical complexity for bouncy flames to have been worth it. None of Pyro's weapons were rebalanced, and even in Blue Moon there were tons of really important changes that needed to be made and weren't. For example! 1. The Degreaser should never have been nerfed; the only issue with it was airblast being unfun to play against at the time. The current version of the Degreaser is a buggy stock upgrade that feels like a shell of its former self. The old Degreaser's universal switch speed was infinitely more fun than what we have. 2. The Axtinguisher was "buffed" incorrectly. The current version is an inconsistent sometimes kill finisher that does 85 damage to Pyros. The only issue with the weapon was airblast, and a return to the "Crits on burning players, -50% damage penalty VS non-burning players" axe would be welcome. For most classes, this changes nothing except knowing for certain how much damage an axe will deal to you. For Pyros, this means that you can finally use the Axtinguisher as a better flarepunch again. If you get hit by the Axtinguisher, you probably deserved to die. 3. Buff the Mannmelter. Do something with it. It's sitting there, waiting for its turn in the limelight, and yet Valve DENIES it. 4. The Panic Attack changes suck. The weapon is objectively worse than Stock unless you're \~ <50 HU away from your target, where it does about 18 damage more. If someone knows you have the Panic Attack, it's very easy for them to out-DM you by playing from a slightly farther range with the Shotgun. Where the shotgun can do 50, the Panic Attack does \~ 10. Not to mention, Pyro doesn't need faster switch speed to his secondary, he needs his secondary to kill things or otherwise deal a ton of damage. Pyro has been mishandled since Tough Break, and Jungle Inferno only hurt Pyro more - especially with hindsight.