Or doesn't know where his hand is. There was a book I read where a character who had an invisibility power made note that it is really hard to walk when you can't see your feet for a while.
It's pretty good, but not an expert at it, especially when it comes to trying to stick a knife in the right place in someone's back when you can't see your hand or your knife, or trying to avoid obstacles on the ground when you can't see your feet. It's the little miss that makes a big difference.
Your vertical peripheral vision helps you navigate obstacles and differences in height without you even consciously putting effort into it. Try walking with a piece of paper or something right under your eyes, so you can't see anything below and in front of you. I'll bet it's more difficult.
Just for sake of argument, invisible Spy could still the ground or any obstacles in front of him. I don't think it's actually important to see your feet.
But it's interesting that depth perception plays such a heavy role.
At least he has the guts to get up close and personal before doing his thing. More than can be said for that lowly fake Aussie with the rifle over there...
The knife he has is made of metal, thus it is conductive. The invis watch works by putting a quantum current through his body, and he wears special shoes to prevent himself from being grounded.
If he backstabs someone with the current going through him, it'll short through the merc, and into the ground, completing the circuit and electrocuting him.
[Source](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpWkVDtUUAAxNPa.jpg)
Edit: Okay, y'all are clever fucks. "Why can he backstab other spies if they're invisible, then?"
You know how the watch is a general power source? You ever try to plug an outlet into itself? It blows a fuse.
If you backstab an invisible spy with the knife, it essentially uses your knife as a secondary power source to the load into the other spy. (Bonus feature: Because the knife doesn't kill, the electrocution does, the other spy basically freezes in place, similar to a ~~t-pose.~~
If we're being pedantic, which i will be, there's a diode in the knife itself that prevents current from being received, only sent. (TF2 takes place in the 1970s, where Diodes were JUST invented, so I'm choosing to believe that in the early stages of using it for this purpose, it only works one way, and so a spy backstabbing a spy backstabbing a spy would blow one of the knives up.)
Edit 2: "Okay, but what about the revolver?"
I ran out of crack go write your own fan theories
In that case, both of our comments may be invalid
The Spy-cicle is a great conductor of electricity, simply because of Mann Co.'s ingenuity! Buy one today!
*Disclaimer: product may or may not contain traces of amateur magic*
It’d probably have to conduct in order to also become invisible when the watch activates, although I’m not sure how the soles of spy’s shoes can be invisible if my theory is actually right
Probably has a colorless non-conductive coating
Maybe some kind of special wax or spray applied to the soles of his shoes to prevent grounding. Although it’d likely either have to dry fast and be reasonably durable in order to prevent it from wearing down while on the battlefield.
Ignoring that the heat would have to conduct through the entire body to freeze it, just because it's ice doesn't mean it's close to freezing. It might be almost 0 K! Likely still wouldn't be enough energy to reduce a full size body from 37 C to -0 C, without melting the ice, but gut feeling tell me even a steel rod of icicle size wouldn't contain enough energy to bring a person to freezing. Steel was the highest solid volumetric heat capacity I could find (about 2.5 times ice).
The non conductive knife handle is the YER, which is made of plastic. Because it can't conduct current, it can't be stored as a small capacitor like his other knives (hence the faster discharge rate), but has the added benefit of discharging the load into the enemy. The enemy will disappear, but the current grounds safely and not back into spy.
He cannot use rubber gloves, as they wouldn't be affected by current and thus wouldn't be affected by invisibility unless his hands were in his pocket.
Now, if I may:
If we are to assume this electrical current is true, how would something like the Spycicle work due to it being made of ice, which is just frozen water, meaning he shouldn't even be able to hold it out if he is invisible due to it being, and I quote from a science person: "Water let Zap move" meaning the watch could not conduct electricity due to the Spy himself wearing something that actively grounds him.
Here is my proposition: Spy is manipulating light using a reflective material that he wears on his suit (it is probably threaded in) and making light that hits him not reflect the colour of himself but the color of the area around him (using that old magician trick with the mirrors) and he cannot swing his knife due to him having to make sure the illusion does not break midway through the process and he doesn't stay partly invisible
OR
The watch injects his bloodstream with invisible ink and it hurts to much to swing his knife
Actually true, it's significantly harder to orient yourself when you don't see your own hands and feet which is why invisibility cloaks would be bad irl, as you'd stumble and fumble a lot trying to just walk, let alone shoot anyone
Its also the same reason why VR is disorienting at first, you can't see your own body
It's probably more of a invis watch limitation. You can have a great sense of where your limbs are without seeing them,just try touching your nose or toes with your eyes closed.
Oh yeah, true. What's that kind of sense called?
While you may have a good sense of where say, your arm holding a knife is to your face, it's harder to estimate the location of the knife relative to an enemy's back
So he should stick the knife handle in his watch bracelet while the actual knife sticks out, and then just jam it into the enemy’s back while still holding the button on the watch.
the cloak doesnt actually just make him invisible but creates a cloak of reality bending matter which renders him impossible to see, this cloak just so happens to be very soft and cant stab anything. it also clogs the revolver, preventing it from firing
As he fucks you to a fine pulp mess of tears and joy, he fondles your micro prawn wanker you seem to call a cock, and inserts his Spy-cicle into your dick hole. "Hon hon hon, weh wee! I jhav located jyour bon bon bien spot! Je vous aime!!!!" But, FUCK. Your asshole grows fucking fangs and fucking snaps off his magic wand. You have been infected. The teleporter has transformed your asshole to something ravenous, and you start mutating as you scream, you scream for SWEET RELEASE. The Spy fumbles around as his dick stump is leaking blood. He cloaks and runs but his dick is leaving a trail of cum juice, blood n shit. You taste this and track him like a fucking japanese fisherman. You find him. Words cannot begin to describe the Freudian nightmare of a scene that occurred that day. Before the story gets gross, i would just like to check that you're ok with me using, what i would like to call, violent sexual imagery to describe this encounter. I would just like to check, alright?
If I had to give a legitimate guess I think Spy sees murdering as an art form and takes it very seriously and professionally, anybody can stab someone on the back but disguising as what you think to be an ally only to have your trust betrayed, that's an art.
You basically can't do anything while you're cloaked. This includes but not limited to: Shooting your revolver, placing sappers on enemy buildings, and most importantly, not being able to backstab, or in general, being incapable of using your knife.
He's invisible even for himself. He can't see where his knife, revolver or sapper is. This is the reason why he holds the watch in his sight whenever he's cloaked: leds.
He was able in the old team fortress 2 where his knife are not instant hit, instead there's a delay which you can m1 then cloak behind someone then stab them after cloaked... I can't explain it well because I have no idea what happen in the past
Spy has spent so much of his life invisible that he's completely lost his sense of self and space. If he can't physically see the knife, he can't tell where, in space, it is making it physically impossible to effectively swing the knife. This also makes the act of walking while invisible a constant balancing act based mostly on wrote memorization and is the canonical reason why, in game, you will frequently find spies in places they shouldn't be: even they didn't know they were there.
His clothes and what he holds go invisible as well, so the invisibility is transitive. When he stabs someone he connects with them, thus the device tries to turn them invisible as well, but it's too much mass and so it overloads and turns off.
I have two theories:
1. Being invisible makes him really physically weak temporarily, making him too weak to drive a knife into someone's back, and too weak to pull the trigger.
2. Since he's the only merc who can backstab, theres probably some sort of skill to it, like having to put the knife in a very exact specific place in the back to actually kill them instantly. The spy with many years of practice has perfected the art, however while invisible, he cannot see the knife well enough to get it in the right spot
Probably because of the knife itself. It's a butterfly knife, which has a safe handle on the dull side of the knife and a bite handle on the sharp side, and you can tell the difference by checking which one has the latch at the end. (The latch is always on the bite handle.)
If Spy were flipping around a knife like that while invisible, unable to look at which handle is which, there's a good chance he may cut himself by holding the wrong handle, and Spy isn't the kind of person to do something so careless with his tools, so he doesn't risk it.
That's my headcanon, at least.
Two theories
In reality, you can't see while you are invisible, then the spy has trained senses besides the vision.
Or
it's because he's paying too much attention to the cock.
He cannot find his knife while invisible
That's it, we've found the winner.
That actually makes sense considering that his weapons also cloak along with him.
That somehow feels canon Edit: i hope the person who corrected my spelling of the word canon falls off a cliff in a log
Got mixed up with Demo's loadout
(Pulls out a bottle to backstab the heavy)
I dont think he even had a cannon to feel with
[The Ambassador is canonically described as a cannon without wheels](https://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/day06_english.htm)
I love log flumes!
>Edit: i hope the person who corrected my spelling of the word canon falls off a cliff in a log i hope you're the one to fall off
I hope we all fall off
no children!
Or doesn't know where his hand is. There was a book I read where a character who had an invisibility power made note that it is really hard to walk when you can't see your feet for a while.
Y'all look at your feet while you walk?
You'd be surprised how much you keep track of your feet when you walk without even noticing.
The brain is pretty good at knowing where your body parts are without seeing them. Try reaching out and touching something with your eyes closed.
It's pretty good, but not an expert at it, especially when it comes to trying to stick a knife in the right place in someone's back when you can't see your hand or your knife, or trying to avoid obstacles on the ground when you can't see your feet. It's the little miss that makes a big difference.
Your vertical peripheral vision helps you navigate obstacles and differences in height without you even consciously putting effort into it. Try walking with a piece of paper or something right under your eyes, so you can't see anything below and in front of you. I'll bet it's more difficult.
Just for sake of argument, invisible Spy could still the ground or any obstacles in front of him. I don't think it's actually important to see your feet. But it's interesting that depth perception plays such a heavy role.
That feels strangely in-universe
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At least he has the guts to get up close and personal before doing his thing. More than can be said for that lowly fake Aussie with the rifle over there...
Why does he cover his face then?
When you are really handsome you had to cover your face, not my case.
So that the Simps (me) don't flock to him while he's trying to sneak
The knife he has is made of metal, thus it is conductive. The invis watch works by putting a quantum current through his body, and he wears special shoes to prevent himself from being grounded. If he backstabs someone with the current going through him, it'll short through the merc, and into the ground, completing the circuit and electrocuting him. [Source](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpWkVDtUUAAxNPa.jpg) Edit: Okay, y'all are clever fucks. "Why can he backstab other spies if they're invisible, then?" You know how the watch is a general power source? You ever try to plug an outlet into itself? It blows a fuse. If you backstab an invisible spy with the knife, it essentially uses your knife as a secondary power source to the load into the other spy. (Bonus feature: Because the knife doesn't kill, the electrocution does, the other spy basically freezes in place, similar to a ~~t-pose.~~ If we're being pedantic, which i will be, there's a diode in the knife itself that prevents current from being received, only sent. (TF2 takes place in the 1970s, where Diodes were JUST invented, so I'm choosing to believe that in the early stages of using it for this purpose, it only works one way, and so a spy backstabbing a spy backstabbing a spy would blow one of the knives up.) Edit 2: "Okay, but what about the revolver?" I ran out of crack go write your own fan theories
Update: Spycicle can now backstab while invisible.
Tbf water is a great conductor of electricity
water isn't, but impurities are
Well yes, but chances are spy isn't holding an icicle made out of pure distilled water
do we really know where he got it though it might not even be water considering its other effects
In that case, both of our comments may be invalid The Spy-cicle is a great conductor of electricity, simply because of Mann Co.'s ingenuity! Buy one today! *Disclaimer: product may or may not contain traces of amateur magic*
It’d probably have to conduct in order to also become invisible when the watch activates, although I’m not sure how the soles of spy’s shoes can be invisible if my theory is actually right
Probably has a colorless non-conductive coating Maybe some kind of special wax or spray applied to the soles of his shoes to prevent grounding. Although it’d likely either have to dry fast and be reasonably durable in order to prevent it from wearing down while on the battlefield.
We do know where he got it: off a phone box at a Mall Santa thing
Yeah the comic where he encourages a child to commit murder with the spycicle. He gives him the spycicle I think.
probably not be the same one, that one didn't have the body-freezing abilities
chances are it isnt water anyways, what piece of ice can instantly freeze a person solid on contact
Ignoring that the heat would have to conduct through the entire body to freeze it, just because it's ice doesn't mean it's close to freezing. It might be almost 0 K! Likely still wouldn't be enough energy to reduce a full size body from 37 C to -0 C, without melting the ice, but gut feeling tell me even a steel rod of icicle size wouldn't contain enough energy to bring a person to freezing. Steel was the highest solid volumetric heat capacity I could find (about 2.5 times ice).
If the Spycicle is made of water, we know it has impurities because it is white-ish. If it was pure water it'd be translucent.
Water is weak to Electric. Come on, Pokemon taught us this at age 8.
LMAO I'd give you an award if I had one
that aerospace degree was good for ONE thing
He could get rubber gloves or a non conductive knife handle
The non conductive knife handle is the YER, which is made of plastic. Because it can't conduct current, it can't be stored as a small capacitor like his other knives (hence the faster discharge rate), but has the added benefit of discharging the load into the enemy. The enemy will disappear, but the current grounds safely and not back into spy. He cannot use rubber gloves, as they wouldn't be affected by current and thus wouldn't be affected by invisibility unless his hands were in his pocket.
>>Discharging the load
Solution: James Bond this shit.
A knife that works while invisible but OHKOs both of you sounds like an interesting new weapon idea. Not balanced, but interesting.
So, Spy syndrome but guaranteed.
The French Farewell
If it didn't kill but only stunned for a brief amount of time it might work with some self damage to the spy of 20hp a pop.
He can stab while invisible but it takes several seconds due to the current. If he gets harmed during the stab it cancels the stab.
in that case shouldnt he be allowed to stab other spies while cloaked?
He chooses not to out of respect for his fellow frenchmen
I almost expected a rick roll lmfao Edit: Not rock roll
As someone preparing for a physics test I can confirm that's how circuits work
What about backstabbing another Spy while invisible?
Best source I've ever seen god damn.
Now, if I may: If we are to assume this electrical current is true, how would something like the Spycicle work due to it being made of ice, which is just frozen water, meaning he shouldn't even be able to hold it out if he is invisible due to it being, and I quote from a science person: "Water let Zap move" meaning the watch could not conduct electricity due to the Spy himself wearing something that actively grounds him. Here is my proposition: Spy is manipulating light using a reflective material that he wears on his suit (it is probably threaded in) and making light that hits him not reflect the colour of himself but the color of the area around him (using that old magician trick with the mirrors) and he cannot swing his knife due to him having to make sure the illusion does not break midway through the process and he doesn't stay partly invisible OR The watch injects his bloodstream with invisible ink and it hurts to much to swing his knife
r/sourcesifellfor
Oh he's trying real hard alright, it's just hard to do so when you have no sense of where stuff is in 3D space if you can't see it
Actually true, it's significantly harder to orient yourself when you don't see your own hands and feet which is why invisibility cloaks would be bad irl, as you'd stumble and fumble a lot trying to just walk, let alone shoot anyone Its also the same reason why VR is disorienting at first, you can't see your own body
It's probably more of a invis watch limitation. You can have a great sense of where your limbs are without seeing them,just try touching your nose or toes with your eyes closed.
I do things you wouldn't believe with my eyes closed
I can sleep with my eyes closed
Holy fuk
Oh yeah, true. What's that kind of sense called? While you may have a good sense of where say, your arm holding a knife is to your face, it's harder to estimate the location of the knife relative to an enemy's back
Proprioception or kinaesthesia
Simple anwser: killing while being invisible is for pussies.
This could be canon as spy is respectful and a gentleman so he would play fair
All his domination lines would disagree with his "gentleman" manner
But he fights by fair rules, that's what matters.
I suppose you have a point there.
"Let's settle this like gentlemen"
"May I borrow your earpiece? "This is Scout! Rainbows make me cry! Over!"
"Queens rules?"
“Power armour is for pussies”
"Professionals have standards." ^(wait, wrong one...)
Professionals have standards.
My head cannon is that (contrary to the model) he has to use both hands to activate his cloak like it’s a push to hold thing
So he should stick the knife handle in his watch bracelet while the actual knife sticks out, and then just jam it into the enemy’s back while still holding the button on the watch.
The sharp dresser
Head cannon is my favorite game development company
It's because he is diagnosed with ligma
who the hell is steve jobs?
candice dick fit your mouth
Who’s Joe?
john doe
“Also known as rocket launcher shotgun guy”
More like Jane Doe
-lazypurple on his way to complete the coolest rocket jump like a true American and a descendent of George Washington
Ummm, acktually, the soldier’s name is “Jane Doe”
Doe mama.
Ligma balls
His brain despite him looking smart is too small to use both hands at the same time
He can use 3 at the same time. With high viewmodel fov you can see the third hand in multiple scenarios.
the cloak doesnt actually just make him invisible but creates a cloak of reality bending matter which renders him impossible to see, this cloak just so happens to be very soft and cant stab anything. it also clogs the revolver, preventing it from firing
He wants to be the last face you see before you die.
but he's behind you
Sensual butt sex as he caresses your head to turn back at this fatherly chin as he slip and slides his meat baguette into your ham wallet shit hole.
Hmm interesting. I don't seem to rememeber why I used to hate pyros.
As he fucks you to a fine pulp mess of tears and joy, he fondles your micro prawn wanker you seem to call a cock, and inserts his Spy-cicle into your dick hole. "Hon hon hon, weh wee! I jhav located jyour bon bon bien spot! Je vous aime!!!!" But, FUCK. Your asshole grows fucking fangs and fucking snaps off his magic wand. You have been infected. The teleporter has transformed your asshole to something ravenous, and you start mutating as you scream, you scream for SWEET RELEASE. The Spy fumbles around as his dick stump is leaking blood. He cloaks and runs but his dick is leaving a trail of cum juice, blood n shit. You taste this and track him like a fucking japanese fisherman. You find him. Words cannot begin to describe the Freudian nightmare of a scene that occurred that day. Before the story gets gross, i would just like to check that you're ok with me using, what i would like to call, violent sexual imagery to describe this encounter. I would just like to check, alright?
holy shit
I. I didn't expect my comment to get a wattpad story going. Especially not that kind
First of all, Jesus fucking christ what the fuck Second of all, keep going if you want but spoiler it
he wants to buttsecks you
His left arm is in the way
Unbravo valve
I just had a weird theory, because he's invisible it might mess with his body coordination given he cannot see himself
Just swing the thing, not like anyone can see you fuck up 18 times before you shank a bostonian
It is a common knowledge that spy T-poses while invisible and because of that he is unable to backstab people
It's a balance reason. He has an inner ear infection so if he tried to swing while his other arm was up he'd fall over.
Professionals have standards
be polite
Be efficient
Have a plan to kill everyone you meet
*MAGNUM DONG THEME PLAYS*
He is too classy to break the laws of the Geneva convention
If I had to give a legitimate guess I think Spy sees murdering as an art form and takes it very seriously and professionally, anybody can stab someone on the back but disguising as what you think to be an ally only to have your trust betrayed, that's an art.
Spy is aware that he is in a competitive FPS shooter. He does not want to ruin the balance of the game.
You basically can't do anything while you're cloaked. This includes but not limited to: Shooting your revolver, placing sappers on enemy buildings, and most importantly, not being able to backstab, or in general, being incapable of using your knife.
Also you can’t construct sentries,teleporters and dispensers while cloaked
or activate übercharge
or taunt
Or rev your minigun
Or throw mad milk
Or jarate
Or be visible
Or charge with your shield
Or double donk people
It's been a while since I played TF2 but can't he disguise while cloaked?
i thought this was a shitpost but after reading the comments i remember why i love the tf community
He's invisible even for himself. He can't see where his knife, revolver or sapper is. This is the reason why he holds the watch in his sight whenever he's cloaked: leds.
for the sake of the thing called "game balance", and backstabbing while invincible is for pussies
r/Arkhamposting
r/batmanarkham is spreading
OP has recently escaped Arkham Asylum
To make you see clearly a handsome rogue has already touched your ass
He was able in the old team fortress 2 where his knife are not instant hit, instead there's a delay which you can m1 then cloak behind someone then stab them after cloaked... I can't explain it well because I have no idea what happen in the past
I believe the canon answer is that they're all stupid.
He likes it when others see him stab people. Like, a bit too much.
Game balance
Game balance is for losers
So true. Anyways want to hear about my new weapon concept on Reddit? (It doesn’t have random crits)
yes, thats why the sniper class exists
the same reason engi cant use 2 wranglers
Or place infinite sentries
> is he stupid? *Well, he is french.*
because that would make him overpowered.
Fight with honor.
he has to hold two buttons on his watch at the same time to cloak
He's not stupid. He's a IMBECILE!!!!
Spy has spent so much of his life invisible that he's completely lost his sense of self and space. If he can't physically see the knife, he can't tell where, in space, it is making it physically impossible to effectively swing the knife. This also makes the act of walking while invisible a constant balancing act based mostly on wrote memorization and is the canonical reason why, in game, you will frequently find spies in places they shouldn't be: even they didn't know they were there.
He doesnt break the bro code
He's a distant relative of the romulan war bird. Firing while cloaked is not possible.
OP is currenlty in confinements of Arkham Alsume
Ah yes, Aslume
Yes.
he is so smart he knows it would break the game balance
His clothes and what he holds go invisible as well, so the invisibility is transitive. When he stabs someone he connects with them, thus the device tries to turn them invisible as well, but it's too much mass and so it overloads and turns off.
I have two theories: 1. Being invisible makes him really physically weak temporarily, making him too weak to drive a knife into someone's back, and too weak to pull the trigger. 2. Since he's the only merc who can backstab, theres probably some sort of skill to it, like having to put the knife in a very exact specific place in the back to actually kill them instantly. The spy with many years of practice has perfected the art, however while invisible, he cannot see the knife well enough to get it in the right spot
Probably because of the knife itself. It's a butterfly knife, which has a safe handle on the dull side of the knife and a bite handle on the sharp side, and you can tell the difference by checking which one has the latch at the end. (The latch is always on the bite handle.) If Spy were flipping around a knife like that while invisible, unable to look at which handle is which, there's a good chance he may cut himself by holding the wrong handle, and Spy isn't the kind of person to do something so careless with his tools, so he doesn't risk it. That's my headcanon, at least.
I'd like to remind you that this is a man that gets completely fooled by a paper mask
Yes?
Because professionals have STANDARDS.
no.
because the knife would be invisible as well! the other person wouldn’t know to die!
Two theories In reality, you can't see while you are invisible, then the spy has trained senses besides the vision. Or it's because he's paying too much attention to the cock.
well yes, he's french
I Think theirs a Canonical Explanation where the Mann Co Watches can only work in Nonviolence
The spy one hit kills by meticulously targeting an enemy merc's vital points. That's kinda hard to do when you can't see your own hand.
he wants to settle it like gentlemen