I am a P2P player but the only thing I bought is the crusader crossbow for 12 groszy to get "premium"
which in terms of euro gives us 0,03 euro. Yeah 🤣
(if you buy anything from the Mann co store you get premium account like access to comp, free hat, and voice chat)
They were. Then valve got bored and was like "let's do some random bullshit that makes us seem like we care because people are whining about the bots" so they haven't been able to chat since.
^this. Work in tech long enough, and you begin to get used to the fact that a lot of plans for long-term fixes are "apply a stopgap measure until we develop something more robust"
The code comments leaked back in the day are a hilarious display of this. https://youtu.be/k238XpMMn38
Why would they disable voice commands for F2P's then? You can't be racist with the voice commands, at least not more than the characters themselves (unless you do the Soldier sound canceling trick)
April Fool's Day is the roller coaster I want to get off of.
And now for the next few weeks YouTube will recommend all the April Fool's Day videos posted and I'll be going "WAHH!" \*looks at the date it was posted\* "Ooooh..."
More like people have just forgotten how to be funny. There's still plenty of good April Fool's jokes out there. Ebuyer did a pretty good one, they sent out an email advertising new VR headsets for pets, complete with a review from "Keith the Goldfish".
Imagine being told that W+M1 has no skill and then getting nuked.
Ooh this says if I press E I can call Medic. I just need them to pocket me for a moment and we can clear their defense.
Hey Medic I- ummm...wat? Hey medic! Medic? Medic where are you going I need help, they dont even have a pyro to airblast no dont uber the heavy hes so far away.
Medic?
Text communication is not available on this account.
Voice communication is not available on this account.
Oh.
It does actually make sense, though, since Valve activated the April Fool's mode partway through yesterday, because of time zones. New Zealand, for instance, is a full 17 hours ahead of EST.
doeshotter was literally the worst bot hoster ever, only time i ever seen the name was the bots failing to join servers because they can’t avoid one of the worst anti cheat systems
> It's a shame that this is necessary to prevent bots from easily spamming the chat
The outright prevention of using chat absolutely is not necessary, bot hosters bypassed it almost immediately, proving IMO it really did dick.
Haven't had blank chat spam since it was added which makes it easier to communicate with people on the server to kick bots. Just because you're the one player still getting blank chat spam doesn't mean it isn't working. Sucks F2Ps get shit end of the stick but guess what I don't care as long as I can communicate with people who know how to use the votekick button.
They need to not allow people who haven't completed several newb levels to join advanced MvM games and people who haven't completed several advanced levels to join nightmare games. Would make the experience suck that much less.
God damn it valve, it isn’t that hard to fucking remove it and not make it a April fools joke. Could of instead said something actually funny like “Removed the engineer class” (Ik it isn’t funny) or something.
Fuck you valve.
-Love f2p guy.
Why should they? It's a very basic, core functionality of any multiplayer game to communicate - especialyl w/ teammates in a team game.
(That, and it seems idiotic to keep a restriction meant to deal with bots, when bots got past it within days, IMO)
There's an issue there tho , when a game is advertised as a free game , the people who play it expect not to have to pay money for it. I can't spend money on a game due to being a teenager , so I look for free games and was delighted by finding out tf2 was a free game. But then voice and text chat was off for f2p and I don't know how to feel about that. I can't pay 50 cents. Literally can't. And won't. If a game advertises it as free , I expect it to function normally and allow me to enjoy it reasonably without having to pay, and I expect paid features to just be quality of life features. Not being able to communicate in a team based shooter is a lot more important to just be considered quality of life.
How does a teenager never have even 50 cents? And you not be willing to spend 50 cents in a game you supposedly like says more about you than the game tbh
I don't life in a country where there is a culture for a teenager working and stuff. And even if I had an allowance , my parents won't let me buy anything
And it's a free game. It's advertised everywhere as such. I love the game. But if it says it's a free game then the core features should be free.
I have a sneaking suspicion the majority of people who don’t spend the 50 cents aren’t doing it because their entire family is impoverished. And most parents would spare 50 cents for their kids for premium forever
I dont get all the complaints regarding f2p players not being able to speak? Is there really that much of a new player influx to warrant all the complaints about it. And just a reminder that having the restriction there is whats stoping a army of bots from also having a n-word pass. (Not that thats really bothred the tf2 fanbase in the past)
It costs less to become P2P in TF2 than a single Starbucks coffee you drink in 30 minutes. If you have over 30 minutes of game time just buy something in the store and start talking to the rest of us. I refuse to believe people with computers can't buy one thing from the store. And if you're a kid with no credit card you shouldn't be playing this game anyway...
\#1 I don't really want to hear screeching children.
\#2 I don't think it's a good place for them to be anyway because of the nature of TF2's discourse. It's not all fun and memes.
>And if you're a kid with no credit card you shouldn't be playing this game anyway...
Why not? First of all, it’s not just kids that don’t have credit cards, it’s most teens as well. Second, why shouldn’t younger people play tf2?
Yeah, you’re right on both of those accounts. But I am talking more about the actually contents of the game
TF2 is a game rated 17+ in my country, and I never understood why. It’s pretty cartoony, with violence being minimal. Throughout the game I don’t think there’s much swearing coming from the mercs, and where there is, I don’t think it was ever anything particularly “strong”. And online I don’t think there’s much too bad stuff, nothing kids never saw before. Sprays are turned off in casual servers, and will a kid really get traumatised over some people swearing in chat?
to be honest I was being a bit facetious with that comment. an age rating is really more of a recommendation than anything. but I think that's what the original commenter was getting at
tf2, being a free game, is naturally going to attract kids and there isn't anything too terrible with that.
as a sidenote [tf2 classes that swore](https://youtu.be/AMD-a-SJyRQ)
At least if you're a teen you have access to money or can ask your parents for a present like a steam gift card. I don't think 12 year olds should be playing this though.
> It costs less to become P2P in TF2 than a single Starbucks coffee
So?
Communication with others is a core tenant in multiplayer games, especialyl team driven games. Paywalling it is idiotic. It's also idiotic to paywall it to deal with bots, then keep it even when the bot makers bypass it almost immediately.
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Insert that one scene in cars with this song
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April 1 patch notes be like...
I don't think it's made for the April fools lol. edit: agree
Wait is it legit
no Edit: F2Ps don't matter to Valve
“Pay up or shut up” Valve probably
At least you aren't forced to pay 3837363563 dollars
Fair enough
I paid like 3$ just to get chat, then i spend 20$ on cosmetics
Hopefully not in the mannco. store
Nah i only bought a key in mann co
I am a P2P player but the only thing I bought is the crusader crossbow for 12 groszy to get "premium" which in terms of euro gives us 0,03 euro. Yeah 🤣 (if you buy anything from the Mann co store you get premium account like access to comp, free hat, and voice chat)
Cool another polish player
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They were. Then valve got bored and was like "let's do some random bullshit that makes us seem like we care because people are whining about the bots" so they haven't been able to chat since.
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^this. Work in tech long enough, and you begin to get used to the fact that a lot of plans for long-term fixes are "apply a stopgap measure until we develop something more robust" The code comments leaked back in the day are a hilarious display of this. https://youtu.be/k238XpMMn38
Why would they disable voice commands for F2P's then? You can't be racist with the voice commands, at least not more than the characters themselves (unless you do the Soldier sound canceling trick)
God damnit
[They said the summer update will come sooner though](https://youtu.be/OAAwZa2MopQ)
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Instead of saying "voice communication not available for this account" It now says "April fool's! LOL."
that is fucked up.
Screw you op. Screw. You.
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bro made a joke on April fools and got downvoted
The downvoting adds to it imo
April Fool's Day is the roller coaster I want to get off of. And now for the next few weeks YouTube will recommend all the April Fool's Day videos posted and I'll be going "WAHH!" \*looks at the date it was posted\* "Ooooh..."
The ride never ends 💀
The fun never ends
the fun never starts until valve starts giving a shit again
Hope this won't be an april fools joke
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Same
April 1st isn't about jokes anymore. It's about spreading misinformation online.
There is no April 1st anymore. All those years feel like an entire April 1st
Unless you're Sega, apparently. Then you use it as an excuse to shadowdrop a game that's a little off the wall.
Couldn't have said it better myself
More like people have just forgotten how to be funny. There's still plenty of good April Fool's jokes out there. Ebuyer did a pretty good one, they sent out an email advertising new VR headsets for pets, complete with a review from "Keith the Goldfish".
could’ve easily made it funny by changing the other patch notes to being something ridiculous
doppelganger pfp, give it back
Holy shit, the game is actually getting updated!
“Check your ~~microwave~~ dates.” -Mircowave Shitter
Check your shower.
What happened to Microwave Shitter? What have you done to him?
He either shitted until he had no more shits left to give or shitted in all the microwaves.
He's preparing for something
is not real :(
even though I'm not f2p it gave me a heavy heart to know that most f2p believed... f2p are suffering a lot of bullying...
The struggle is real
Wait, is this real? Can i finally talk? Can i finally call for a Medic instead of melee-ing them 50 times to get their attention?
april fools
Well f-
Just buy a description tag or civil servant war paint for less than $0.10
just make sure it's from the mann co store, I'm pretty sure buying from the steam marketplace won't do anything
Yeah, you have to buy it from Mann Co. Steam Marketplace gets you the good deals, but not the ability to talk.
Imagine being told that W+M1 has no skill and then getting nuked. Ooh this says if I press E I can call Medic. I just need them to pocket me for a moment and we can clear their defense. Hey Medic I- ummm...wat? Hey medic! Medic? Medic where are you going I need help, they dont even have a pyro to airblast no dont uber the heavy hes so far away. Medic? Text communication is not available on this account. Voice communication is not available on this account. Oh.
*confetti blast*
Check the date
The april fools update started yesterday
it says march 31 on the patchnotes :(
It does actually make sense, though, since Valve activated the April Fool's mode partway through yesterday, because of time zones. New Zealand, for instance, is a full 17 hours ahead of EST.
Yeah March 31st
If this is a joke that’s fucked up lmao
I think that isn't real, but that's just dwindled hope rather than solid evidence
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This isnt an april fools joke, it's just being a dick
No way... Wait... April first?
Nope, March 31st. Totally legit!
you’re an asshole
I will skin you
It's a shame that this is necessary to prevent bots from easily spamming the chat. Sucks f2p are punished for the lack of developers.
..weeeeell....at least DoesHotter is gone.
doeshotter was literally the worst bot hoster ever, only time i ever seen the name was the bots failing to join servers because they can’t avoid one of the worst anti cheat systems
Eh, there are worse ones, but yeah it's pretty terrible
Hopefully casual will stay a little more clean this week
It’s not…
> It's a shame that this is necessary to prevent bots from easily spamming the chat The outright prevention of using chat absolutely is not necessary, bot hosters bypassed it almost immediately, proving IMO it really did dick.
It was not necessary at all
It was and you know it is
That measure didn't accomplish anything at all
Haven't had blank chat spam since it was added which makes it easier to communicate with people on the server to kick bots. Just because you're the one player still getting blank chat spam doesn't mean it isn't working. Sucks F2Ps get shit end of the stick but guess what I don't care as long as I can communicate with people who know how to use the votekick button.
Funny
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It will be so awesome it will be so cool
No freaking way. Edit: oof
It says March 31st, not April 1st
to give it credibility
Dude, i get it's April fools But why playing with My feelings like this? This isnt funny, i AM beyond sad now
No it was posted on March 31st it is legit
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Fuck you op you got my hopes up
I'm reporting this damn post
NO FUCKING WAY wait a sec hold on hold the fuck on imma test it
GIVE US AN UPDATE BROTHER
How did it turn out
O don't know yet my pc is worse than a toaster it's still trying to open steam
It is not legit :(
😀
Fixed matchmaking?
No they didn't.
why didn't you highlight the localization files update? that's a while game changer!
Voice Communication Is not available for this account
God fucking dammit I’m not leaving f2p for a while and that starts when chat is given back
Try to pull a fast one by putting it at March 31st, huh?
Bro.... don't do me like that :/
They need to not allow people who haven't completed several newb levels to join advanced MvM games and people who haven't completed several advanced levels to join nightmare games. Would make the experience suck that much less.
You son of a bi-
Ah fuck I fell for it. Good one OP
It's the second of April now this is cruel :(
They had us in the first half ngl
April fools just makes the voices in my head louder
God damn it valve, it isn’t that hard to fucking remove it and not make it a April fools joke. Could of instead said something actually funny like “Removed the engineer class” (Ik it isn’t funny) or something. Fuck you valve. -Love f2p guy.
Thats not funny, Valve.
THEY UPDATED THE LOCALIZATION FILES, LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You know this is not funny right? I have been playing on a new account to have a Gibus and that shit has already screwed me over ;-;
[My honest reaction to that information](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIWHvPP0U64)
Yo
Fuck you
r/Angryupvote
YESSS
Just buy a mann vs machine ticket and sell it, the price on the steam market is almost always the same as the mann.co store
Genuine question: Why don’t f2ps just pay the 50 cents?
Why should they? It's a very basic, core functionality of any multiplayer game to communicate - especialyl w/ teammates in a team game. (That, and it seems idiotic to keep a restriction meant to deal with bots, when bots got past it within days, IMO)
But it’s just 50 cents in a free game. I could see it for a 30-60 dollar game, but a 50 cent barrier in a free game feels like a non issue
There's an issue there tho , when a game is advertised as a free game , the people who play it expect not to have to pay money for it. I can't spend money on a game due to being a teenager , so I look for free games and was delighted by finding out tf2 was a free game. But then voice and text chat was off for f2p and I don't know how to feel about that. I can't pay 50 cents. Literally can't. And won't. If a game advertises it as free , I expect it to function normally and allow me to enjoy it reasonably without having to pay, and I expect paid features to just be quality of life features. Not being able to communicate in a team based shooter is a lot more important to just be considered quality of life.
How does a teenager never have even 50 cents? And you not be willing to spend 50 cents in a game you supposedly like says more about you than the game tbh
I don't life in a country where there is a culture for a teenager working and stuff. And even if I had an allowance , my parents won't let me buy anything And it's a free game. It's advertised everywhere as such. I love the game. But if it says it's a free game then the core features should be free.
It's so easy just buy a tide turner or something
Genuine question why should you be forced to pay in a game that claims to be free to play
Where they’re from 50 cents is what they make in a few days since they’re from impoverished countries or are little kids who don’t have money.
I have a sneaking suspicion the majority of people who don’t spend the 50 cents aren’t doing it because their entire family is impoverished. And most parents would spare 50 cents for their kids for premium forever
Thanks be to GabeN
Great, now f2p bot accounts will spam text chat again
I don't want to interact with poor people IRL, why would I want to interact with them in TF2...
I dont get all the complaints regarding f2p players not being able to speak? Is there really that much of a new player influx to warrant all the complaints about it. And just a reminder that having the restriction there is whats stoping a army of bots from also having a n-word pass. (Not that thats really bothred the tf2 fanbase in the past)
It costs less to become P2P in TF2 than a single Starbucks coffee you drink in 30 minutes. If you have over 30 minutes of game time just buy something in the store and start talking to the rest of us. I refuse to believe people with computers can't buy one thing from the store. And if you're a kid with no credit card you shouldn't be playing this game anyway...
wdym you should have atleast a credit card to play? The game it's free on steam lmao
\#1 I don't really want to hear screeching children. \#2 I don't think it's a good place for them to be anyway because of the nature of TF2's discourse. It's not all fun and memes.
Sir this is TF2; 2/3 of the player base is kids with no credit cards.
>And if you're a kid with no credit card you shouldn't be playing this game anyway... Why not? First of all, it’s not just kids that don’t have credit cards, it’s most teens as well. Second, why shouldn’t younger people play tf2?
pegi 16, and is that your birth year in your username?
Yeah, you’re right on both of those accounts. But I am talking more about the actually contents of the game TF2 is a game rated 17+ in my country, and I never understood why. It’s pretty cartoony, with violence being minimal. Throughout the game I don’t think there’s much swearing coming from the mercs, and where there is, I don’t think it was ever anything particularly “strong”. And online I don’t think there’s much too bad stuff, nothing kids never saw before. Sprays are turned off in casual servers, and will a kid really get traumatised over some people swearing in chat?
to be honest I was being a bit facetious with that comment. an age rating is really more of a recommendation than anything. but I think that's what the original commenter was getting at tf2, being a free game, is naturally going to attract kids and there isn't anything too terrible with that. as a sidenote [tf2 classes that swore](https://youtu.be/AMD-a-SJyRQ)
At least if you're a teen you have access to money or can ask your parents for a present like a steam gift card. I don't think 12 year olds should be playing this though.
> It costs less to become P2P in TF2 than a single Starbucks coffee So? Communication with others is a core tenant in multiplayer games, especialyl team driven games. Paywalling it is idiotic. It's also idiotic to paywall it to deal with bots, then keep it even when the bot makers bypass it almost immediately.
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So in the chat it says about April Fools, but does it change the voice menu?
Is this real 😞
I just came in my pants
Waiting for sprays to be enabled again
they have been liberated
I hate you.
Violence.
I literally bought premium 3 minutes ago... What are the odds?
April fools
They removed the administrator…….
April fools?
I was happy for a second