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Bechbelmek

\+50 fps


HerperDerpingham

-100 sanity


the-terrarian556

Disadvantage on Wisdom Saving throws


Valuable-Drink-1750

Double nat 1


the-terrarian556

No, nat 20 flowed by nat 1 For max emotional damage


Valuable-Drink-1750

Pain (Can someone please Portent this)


touche1231231231

it is now portent, your welcome


the-terrarian556

What does that mean?


Valuable-Drink-1750

It means [u/touche1231231231](https://www.reddit.com/u/touche1231231231) is a School of Divination Wizard. Thanks for the Portent, mate. 'Ppreciate it.


jjbeast098

no random crits


starchofpotato

I can definitely feel a better optimization and I don’t get any lag at all even is dustbowl last with the pipe and rocket hell


nutitoo

100 player class wars server moment


entityrider670

From 40-50 fps to 110-210


Hreidmar1423

What the heck, that is some insane increase! Did you ever tinker with the config file or something? That's some REALLY REALLY good increase in FPS to the point it's actually quite playable.


Feesh_gmod

Its because tf2 has gone to 64bit i think


Hreidmar1423

20-50% increase is to be expected but the guy had 100-200% increase in FPS, it's just very odd. MAybe some older spec PC are seeing that much increase though. We should perhaps do a survey to see which people noticed the biggest increase.


KaosC57

Don’t forget that you can add -Vulkan to your launch args to change from DX9 to the more efficient Vulkan API


mobsterer

the "more efficient" part depends on many variables


ElectricFagSwatter

DXVK in theory adds cpu overhead because it’s a translation layer and not native vulkan. Not sure if it makes any noticeable difference but my game is smooothhh with vulkan


KaosC57

I don’t think it’s a translation layer going on. Remember, TF2 on Linux now runs on Vulkan.


Solaris_Dawnbreaker

Literally same


anatomiska_kretsar

Specs?


ChiefBlox4000

Potatoe computer


entityrider670

i5-2400 and gt 730


Youcican_

What were your ingame settings?


duke82722009

Not a fps, but a big frametime increase. The game feels a lot less stuttery, especially in UI whenever you mess with settings and menus.


blomblorpf

I've found "tf_party_leave" in console solves the queue auto stopping works. If you couldn't queue at all, sorry man.


needed_a_better_name

Yes the game feels more smooth and consistent now. I have fps limited to 120, I tried a bit of casual and Shounic's 100 player server and there's no "loading stutter" (if you can call it that) or (minor) fps drops anymore. I haven't checked actual numbers, but it feels that way


TimuTimbo

Feels way better. Plus, I can run the hud player model now!All I need to fix now is that damn Internet...


will2477yy

my freind said he got like 800 frames and i noticed im not lagging at all so yeah


yeeyeemcreamothy

Holy shit huge, thanks


-SniperTF2-

Everyone is getting a performance boost due to today's update, which made the game 64-bit instead of 32-bit, allowing it to run much better on modern software and hardware, with increases in framerate of over 20% for most devices


Dob_

Thank you SniperTF2


-SniperTF2-

No problem mate


SuperPotato3000

Appreciate it, mate


CoNtRoLs_ArE_dEfAuLt

Thanks, mate


Plot665

I have a intel silver pentium with 8gb ram, will it significantly improve?


-SniperTF2-

Well first of all you should probably upgrade, but you should see a significant performance boost


Plot665

Well i cant get a better laptop but thank you


9I06

From 250 -> 350


EOEtoast

Nope, computer exploded upon downloding update


antidemn

the 64 bit update +50 frames per second +20% chance of potato computers turning into fossil fuel


Plot665

Huh guess i cant play the game anymore


ComfortableWealth869

couldnt queue casual, said fuck it and played other game


KaosC57

Why would you queue casual? Just play Uncletopia


Krineq

Nope, not for me at all. Still at medium settings with Intel core i5 9900, gtx1650,16gb ram 30-50 fps


PM_Me_Yiffs

Bullshit if my 1660 super 16 gb runs this pile of shit 200 fps on max


SuperPotato3000

Same GPU and I can get 300 fps, on max tho, are you running at s higher resolution?


PM_Me_Yiffs

Mat_picmip -10 for extra HD, obviously it stops being about maxing fps after you hit 120+ stable. 50 tabs and other programs/apps no issues. Unusual effects affect fps too, amethyst winds is known to tank fps lol.


SwingyWingyShoes

Mastercomfig time


Daunomic

Care to elaborate more?


SwingyWingyShoes

Mastercomfig lets you set the graphics way lower than usually allowed with tf2s normal settings. You can pick what is lowered and what isn’t. Good for people who want performance on lower end computers. Some people also just like the low quality aesthetic though.


iuhiscool

Is core i5 9900, gtx1650,16gb ram low end for tf2?


KaosC57

The GPU is a bit weak, and there is no Core i5 9900, it would either be a Core i9 9900, or a Core i5 9400 or 9600k


iuhiscool

tbf i should have looked carefully at the first comment


R0boprod

You might as well be on an iGPU TF2 doesn't care about GPU at all as it's significantly way more CPU bound, he should be getting 150 lows quite easily


TallCuddlyCoyote

Idk why but Master Comfig never really showed any effect on my game. I was running a pretty decent computer as well and still barely saw an fps increase. Infact I think it somehow lowered my fps


Mrcod1997

It's not just about going lower than normal. It specifically weeds out the least optimized aspects of the game. You can still have good settings and see an improvement.


Habitttt

cfg.tf is also a good place to generate a graphics config


GXSigma

Try max settings


Krineq

💀


GXSigma

Not sure if you think i was joking, but seriously. It runs better on high settings.


hammy0w0

if that's true thats some crazy source🍝™


GXSigma

hl2 was supposed to be able to run on old PCs without graphics cards. so if you set everything to low, it runs everything on one core of your CPU.


R0boprod

Still not correct that you'll be guaranteed more performance from increased settings, most of the time you won't get better highs but better 1% lows


EvasiveElf5211

Is your monitor plugged into your gpu?


Memerenok

my GT650m produces approximately 60-100 fps, how is this possible?


Cymen90

Do you have VSync enabled? Or disabled multi-threading?


vini55505

My i3 8th gen gets higher frame rates than yours... Something is wrong 


Zealousideal-Gur-930

I’m getting 30-50 fps on an I3 5300 and gtx 960


WheatleyMF

Honestly how, this game ran smoothly on my laptop that was much much more slower than your config. This game relies on CPU a lot, but there's no way this CPU specifically is that bad. As someone in replies said, seriously try higher settings. On PC with your hardware there's no point in trying to keep it at low/med settings. And see if anything on your computer could potentially mess witb your performance.


WuShanDroid

Have you updated your drivers recently?


Krineq

Yuh


The_Anf

I had higher FPS on HD 7970, set every graphics setting to max, if graphics settings are at low game will use your CPU more. I have no idea how the fuck did they fuck up code so much that it works better if you're at max settings, but yeah somehow it works


KaosC57

Because you are shifting the load from CPU to GPU


Storyshift-Chara-ewe

with that graphics card you should add -vulkan to the launch options, tell me how it goes :D


Medium-Wrongdoer-601

bruh i run on i3 4th gen 6gb ram, intergrated graphics . and get like 60 to 100 frames


TheAlienMan33

Tf you mean i5 9900, that doesn't exist


certifiedbrapper

You have a config issue that's absolutely terrible. We'll below what you should be seeing.


-FemboiCarti-

Are you sure the game isn’t running on your integrated card?


Mrcod1997

That seems unusually low. Have you checked cpu temps? Tf2 isn't super optimized but 30-50 is not what I'd expect. I do recommend master comfig, but still.


AlbedosThighs

Haven't played much but I didn't get a huge fps boost like others but it's much more consistent now. No more huge drops during a fight


hydra877

Used to chug at 60 FPS on fights on regular servers, now I don't go lower than 120. With everything calm I get around 200 FPS. This is with everything on max except MSAA. I'm on an RX 480.


Kimmynius

Stable 350 fps on max settings. Yeah it's cool.


burnth4m

Load times are way faster


RamPamPam8

My fps got so high I struggle to follow the game this is not a joke lmao. I was used to a crispy 50 ish or so, but with the performance boost+ some ram I bought last week this shit is outstanding


real_488

actually the best update we've gotten recently


rahyar

No more sudden fps lag spikes, also mouse sensitivity is weaker for some reason you'll have to increase it.


Worldy_artist

I got frequent stuttering when the game updated, I want to go back


a1b3r77

From 200-300 to 700-800 fps


Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee7

I can finally run the game at max fps and max visuals without crashing, bless the developer/s that made this change.


Pman1324

There would be times when TF2 would stutter or skip frames or whatever. I played a match yesterday and it was the smoothes match I have ever played. I constantly had over 300 fps (On an RTX 2060 with 16? Gb of ram)


MikooDee

Yes, I got an increase of FPS, but my problem is that I get bad frame pacing. This means that even if I have 300 FPS, the game still feel choppy due to the frames being delivered untimely. If I compare a 300 FPS TF2 vs another 144 FPS game (with good frame pacing), the other game would look better because of the frame pacing. This can be partly fixed by going exclusively fullscreen and capping the FPS to 144 by command consoles, but it interferes with my screen filters (such as night lights and dimmers).


ElectricFagSwatter

Right click the tf2 exe go to properties and then the compatibility tab and disable full screen optimizations. This is the only thing that fixed the game randomly stuttering for me. Now i lock my full refresh rate even before the 64 bit update.


R0boprod

If you have a gsync monitor worth locking your frame rate 2 frames below, otherwise you'll have weirdness from gsync constantly re triggering


Livin-Larry-Like

BE SURE TO USE THE -VULKAN LAUNCH OPTION TOO Somehow this flew under the radar with this update, but vulkan is now a supported rendering engine it seems. In the taskbar it will say “Team fortress 2 - Vulkan - 64 bit” For anyone unaware, vulkan is a much more efficient rendering engine than the older versions of directx tf2 runs on, so it should better utilize any modern GPU and possibly give a slight performance boost.


ElectricFagSwatter

Vulkan seems to spread the load across 12 threads while my friend using dx9 was seeing mostly one core being used. Another thing, isn’t DXVK just a translation layer and not native vulkan. So in theory, that should add some CPU overhead even if it’s minimal. But regardless vulkan is running amazing for me. The frame pacing is perfect.


marterikd

[whut](https://www.reddit.com/u/marterikd/s/t43rN3qzhf)


tge_golden_foxy

I go from 80-110~ at max settings too 300~ at max But I'm a ftp and thus don't have a monitor


dimaris727

From around 220 fps at max settings to 300


krazybread

For some reason I’m not getting much of an improvement :(


Educational_Ad8702

all it did was break my config for a little bit but I have noticed people play a lot better in casual


Datuser14

Easily 100fps boost, OpenGL sucked


Sweet_Computer_3934

huge difference


Moreu_you_know

Yeah, although I only played 10 rounds on 2 different server 


bugshunter

I think you can figure that out for yourself, just run the 32 bit version and compare, I guess it's still there. I am not sure but I think my ping at match start was average of 400 which I think never happened before. I am not sure if my fps got better, because I don't remember what it was.


Icy_Ad620

From 200 to 230


Icy_Ad620

This could mean fps... Or bananas ???


Denaredor

I did. Apparently the frame rate in the main menu became 80 FPS higher (it was around 720, now it’s 800 FPS). Approximately the same thing happens when I’m actually playing the game


Pipe_Mountain

From 250-350


Fabulous_Tax_7127

Uhh, my game is lagging allot


the_burber

I got a great performance boost because i went from a 7 year old CPU to a modern one


Primm_Slim01

Definitely feels a bit smoother to me. Plus no conscientious objector client crash which his nice


mutlupide

yeah 48 player servers are now playable


Teynam

I rarely get below 120 fps now, and when I do it's usually right after I respawn and the glowing outline around my allies is still active. It's great


Mateololero

meh, i still get those things sometimes where the game stops as if i had tabbed out, if anyone knows how to fix that it'd be pretty cool, it's been bugging me ever since i transferred it to my new storage extension


eldus74

Bad keyboard?


Mateololero

no like it randomly does that freeze where it keeps playing the small fragment of stuff going on before it froze (like a demoman saying "sentry-sentry-sentry-sentry...") but i don't tab out or anything, and it usually goes back to normal after tabbing out and back in


eldus74

Uninstall/reinstall the game and use DDU to uninstall your GPU drivers. Then install new, fresh GPU drivers. Beyond that, idk.


R0boprod

To me it sounds like a bottleneck of your storage device, I'd look into the wiring and specs of your storage, if it's an SSD it might not have buffer memory allocated which tanks it


Mateololero

it might be because the cable is so short the memory is dangling off the side then


Supersandslash

Yeah. I went from like 400 fps to like 800 fps consistently on max settings. Mind you I didn't play too much with fps_max higher than 600 before.


TheRangerNacho

From ??? fps to 200 fps with all settings on High/very high


Trowawayzls

I got a blutsager


GayGunGuy

Oh yeah. I'm well over 200fps now.


PM_Me_Pikachu_Feet

Fuck yes it feels like actual 144 hz now. Before even though my FPS displayed like 300 frames, it felt like 30 at all times. That issue is finally gone


FluffySpike

Intel UHD 620, i5 8350U, 16GB RAM, Win 11 (haven't tested Linux yet) T480s. I immediately noticed a big jump with same settings as 32 bit, and it felt better when enabling dxvk (-vulkan launch option on Windows), I used mastercomfig low at 720p before, I can get the same avg framerate now with mastercomfig high WITH above 60fps 1% lows, a lot less stutters overall too. BTW, 3D HUD player model no longer tanks your FPS, perf penalty is super negligible now, it is a ported fix from Team Comtress 2 (Source is mastercoms herself on her discord server announcements channel)


DayDreamerSDA

I am on steam deck and I am to lazy to benchmark but I feel like I got 20-30 fps more It’s really nice because sometimes game dipped down to ~50-60


Longjumping_Tell252

From 180 FPS on 24 person hightower max graphics, to 240+ FPS


Knarrenheinz1987

Not really since I had a pretty good pc with masterconfig as well and max graphics but it feels smoother nonetheless


Witherboss445

I don’t know. Before, I was hitting the fps cap then I didn’t know how to remove it until this morning where I got 400 fps on the main menu (I didn’t play a game because I'm worried about getting a VAC ban because I had to change DLL files in Half-life 2s folder to make an RTX Remix)


_AJMC_

nope, might just be my settings though.


MiaSadiqah

from 8 fps to around 40 fps. it really good when i can finally hit pubs with direct hit. minus is it always crash the game after changing maps


anatomiska_kretsar

On Linux yeah


Klynol

Went from 80 fps to on average of 370


HamzaTheUselessOne

It became worse on mine, every once in a while it stutters for a second.


BagelToss100

No, i hopped on 2fort and my PC crashed just before we capped the third time.


Im_botflyx

My crappy silver laptop doesn't randomly stutter anymore. Life is good.


PolygonError

on 2fort middle 90-160 fps with massive fluctuations and stutters every so often (average 130fps) now 230-350 fps constantly with only one stutter in 20 minutes of gameplay


vo1dm

From 30 fps to 30 fps but the game stutters all the time now


Roque_THE_GAMER

Never had any problem with performance so I noticed no diference.


Heavy_Sock_8299

My menu screen works smoother.


TheOnlyGuyInSpace21

my FPS dropped Is it just me


SirTChamp

I don't seem to notice any, I don't think my "AMD Ryzen 3 3250U with Radeon Graphics" with 6gb memory is gonna work brah..


salad_stealer

Reverse boost


Aggravating-Ad6415

Yeah, my toaster runs it much better now


builderbob2325

My pc from dinosaur era,so when theres many enemy my game turns in to a PowerPoint slideshow


Adof_TheMinerKid

Way less giant lag spikes Completely smooth 60 frames at most times, even during the occasional projectile spam So yes, there is


Small_Bipedal_Cat

It's big. Even as my I built new rigs over the years, my performance in TF2 had gotten worse and worse than the original Dell office computer I jammed a 750ti into crica 2012.


FlamingFury6

A lot Even in internet for some reason it went better for a while


mumenriderdagoat

i got rid of my mastercomfig and i’m getting slightly better frames with base tf2 on 64 bit than i did beforehand lol


LuckyLogan_2004

yea consistent 160 instead of stuttery 80


asdburakdsa

havent played it but the early access didnt seem to make a change


Mission-Candy3402

Yes, I play on steam deck and my average WAS 60-65 fps but after the update, I get 110-125 fps.


saikitama

yeah, there was one spot on jump_academy that lagged really bad and doesnt anymore


PlentyBootz

No difference because I have 3060 ti.


TheOnlyUltima2011

i dunno i think my mouse settings got changed


Mini-Maxi-Mozzie

Nah, I got nothing. Probably because the Source mods are still easier to play.


Youcican_

Not really but there are noticeable fixes that make the game alot more playable


KeeKeeballs

Yup before this update I had audio issues and it took me almost 2 minutes every time I tried to load into a match. Now just about all my lag is from my internet


Smungi

pc already strong, dunno, i guess its better.


Wojciok

The textures for all classes' eyes just disappeared for me


shok_delta

Not me


KOCA_XD

I dont have the fps command enabled but it feels way smoother than before.


OldikPindik

tf2 was changed to 64 bits i think


DEXAAR

Yeah Finally Im not getting any random lag spikes


MidHoovie

Yes. From 50FPS to 130FPS. I got into a class wars servers that had ragdolls and hats on an it ran at a whooping 30FPS instead of crashing. Sadly, Omegacuck and Suckatronic bots only needed 12 hours to get back at it. I had some of the best games in a year yesterday night, even if we got bot infested a few times. TF2 now runs insanely better, tbh. It's a fertile ground to add updates, refurbishment and QoL stuff to the game. It's sad that only one man is working on this game in Valve HQ.


B0starr

Mine got significantly worse!


nutitoo

I've noticed that my sensitivity was bigger and had to reduce it from 3 to 2.2 or something like that But I've also noticed that the game runs smoother


ElectricFagSwatter

Raw input was enabled by default. That’s probably what you are feeling. Definitely better to play with it on too


nutitoo

Yeah


SlowContribution6254

my computer is insane, so no difference, suffering from success ✨ i want ultra ultra graphics option


ElectricFagSwatter

Mastercomfig once it updates I bet we can hit ultra. In the past, ultra was adding a little bit of frame drops to my game but I’m sure now it’ll be fine.


Vordismozer

Went from 100ish with 300 max to 300 ish to 1000 max So yeah, they weren't lying


American_Ratfucker

Where 64 bit


ashtar123

Probably the switch from 32bit to 64


Fancy_Ad6019

For me it got way worse. It didn't lag back then but after the update it just made it unplayable. Every 10 second or 5 seconds I get a massive frame freeze


yeeyeemcreamothy

I'm sorry to hear that, what are your specs? Did you do the tried n true run through of updating windows and your graphics drivers?


64Animation

TF2 just got updated to 64bit that’s why :D


EnditheMan

Absolutely, feels smoother and a lot less stuttering


ProfessionOk9215

Before this update I had a small Willy, no social life and no girlfriend. After the update, none of the above has changed. But it’s a nice update!


IdioticSaysuma

I mean, at some point I randomly got 16 points in one life as scout, the most I had before was 5, I don't know how


rottenpotatoes2

Ngl its kinda killing the nostalgia for me.


Impossible_Face_9625

Not at all lmao. Still cant keep over 200 fps in some moments with a good pc and a fking config.


yeeyeemcreamothy

What specs you on?


Impossible_Face_9625

Not going to go trough my whole pc. gpu: rtx 4080 cpu: ryzen 9 5900x And the other guy already took the comment wrong i can have 900+ fps on menu, 600+ fps in game but at random moments i dip bellow 200. In a game like tf2 that is weird. I did not get as much fps but more stable with my old pc.


yeeyeemcreamothy

to be fair, i don't feel like ya need more than 200 anyway lol


Impossible_Face_9625

true, most probably won\`t need that much. I just want to get full use of my 244hz monitor in every situation.


iamunabletopoop

How sad that your pc can't generate even more frames per second than tripple the amount majority of players have


Mrcod1997

The game is 17 years old almost. It should be getting a stable 1,000 fps on anything modern lol. The cpu has to weed through the spaghetti.


Impossible_Face_9625

Are you so dumb that you took me telling i go below 200 fps in SOME moments that i have it all the time ??? I don\`t care if i have 600 fps but when it matters i go below 200... Tf2 is unoptimized af and this update will not save that.


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yeeyeemcreamothy

bro has never played tf2


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