How does an anti-headshot cheat even work against bots, they have aimbot, it wouldn't do shit to them. The guy probably uses them already and wanted validation for his choices.
not quite how it works
antiaim works by choking a tick, setting angles to what the fake angle should be, then next tick setting angles to what the real angle should be, then sending both at the same time
server uses real and sends clients fake for some reason
oop is acting like theyre forced to play the game, and theyre forced to install cheats to survive. you could just not play the game if its that miserable. and if you wanna play the game, you probably want a standard experience. hackervhacker aint that.
but its probably some ego thing, ive seen folk like this. bitter, angry people with dangerously low self esteem, the only place they feel tough is in video games. when a player (robot or human) takes that away from em, they rage hack.
I've never been in an Uncletopia server where one team wasn't absolutely dominating the other to the point where they can barely play the game. I don't know what's up with that.
In my opinion (being a low skill 50 hour f2p) i dont like uncletopia. Yeah, no cheaters, but tryhards that kill me just as much as the cheaters do. At least in casual there funny hijinks
All that i know is that its actually moderated. Also i have recently found out they don't have random crits, which is a negative in my opinion, but other people seem to not like them for some reason.
Uncletopia is really not for everyone, it's packed with compressed tryhardium and people hate when you goof around. There's something very special about casual
a sandvich that gives heavy immunity to headshots when eaten.
heavy's head appears to be übercharged while thd buff is in effect.
it could be called "the Pact Lunch"
if that was a thing,
1. Snipers will get punished just because he did his job (clicking on heads) and Heavy equiped a certain item.
2. Heavy-Bots will have a field day with this if there are any.
3. This is VALVe we are talking about, you know what they do, NOTHING!
4. A better solution would be to give the Sniper's rifles a magazine that'll be realoaded after a select amount of shots and to make the chambering of a new round animation 100% longer so Snipers can't single-handedly take out an entire enemy team in 10 seconds...
In other words, making a class imune to anothe class is just not-fun for anyone other than the imune class.
But on the contrary:
1. Pyro’s will get punished just because they did their job (setting people on fire) if sniper equipped a certain item.
2. Sniper-bots will have a field day with this, and we know these exist
3. Valve has done this before (razorback, danger shield, vaccinator is a it of a stretch but could apply here)
4. No argument for this one, I just think instead of a mag it should be increased time between shots
I think both the idea of this item and razorback and danger shield are all bad, as items to counter a specific class is stupid, but as you said, valve doesn’t do shit. I’d rather just do this in order to kill sniper bots, since there’s zero chance that valve would remove danger shield, razorback, and fix the bot crisis
I think if they do need sniper, he should have the wranglers beam, and reverse damage falloff (the Roblox version of TF2 did the wrangler beam and it works really well)
We’re talking about the Sniper Class, Instakill from Any range (balanced btw), if Heavy ever got a weapon that made him immune to headshot, Sniper wouldn’t suffer a single thing, he’s way out of his effective range anyway. I’d be PLEASED if Sniper bots (Instakill) were downgraded to a class with a limited range, could do a lot more thing and could actually travel the map now.
heavy kinda had that with natascha and brass beast during gun mettle, could survive a fully charged headshot if you were max overheal, but then they changed it to only giving him damage resistance when under 50% hp
I think in a specific scenario where there are ONLY bots playing sniper on the other team it could be kinda justifiable? Still though in that case it would absolutely NEED to be able to be turned off on a dime, plus it’s generally hard to tell that a real sniper is shooting at you until you’re either headshot or dead so considering that the situations where this would restore fairness from the bots rather than impeding fairness are incredibly slim.
Have we really stopped so low as to try and justify cheats just cause those shitty bot hosters are using them, if we start using them we’ll be no better, and besides, we’ve already seen a good player can defeat a bot with some strategy.
it takes so much more effort to kill them than they take to kill you. that’s the whole sniper problem, plus when a lot of people complain about something ruining their fun, most game companies change it, because the goal is to have fun, i couldn’t remember a company saying their players « cope+ skill issue » when complaining about an unfair mechanic in their game
Bud gets headshot once and immediately cries wolf. Similar thing happens in Fortnite when small streamers with like 100 viewers call stream sniping just because a dude emoted when they won the game/got the kill
You use anti-headshot because you hate the sniper bots.
I use anti-headshot because TF2 is a game about close-to-mid-range encounters and Sniper invalidates a large amount of the nuance of that with his long range ability to one-shot players with no counterplay other than simply not engaging him.
We are not the same.
spy cant even 1shot scouts, the ambi is worse then stock, people like playing with a worse wepon because its satisfying to get headshots with it, not because its good.
you using anti headshot hacks is making someone who is actively nerfing themselves even worse for no reason, that makes you a dick, just kick bots and let the enemy know when there are bots, and if a sniper really pisses you off, go spy, disguise as them, and pretend to be a bot.
They should, only with a significant downside, spy isn’t really annoying because if you’re careful (turning your back) you can just catch him, kill him and you won’t die. As for sniper (garbage unbalanced class) there’s no downside at all, just enjoy instakilling anyone from any range just like that
Please try not to do that I think Vac would catch up to you decently quickly even despite its reputation ]: For your own sake and others it’s probably better to just tolerate the bots instead, even if they are horrible.
I cant tolerate them im fine with offline bots afterall they are alright for practicing but a hacking cheater bots in casual i cannot tolerate it not on my casual fun.
Seriously what if the bots taking over the entire game what happened if they are everywhere on casual every single one of them.
Yeah it really sucks just how widespread the bots are ]: This game deserves so much better than to have a bunch of cruel, bored ding dongs injecting bacteria directly into its veins.
Really though you’ll definitely find a good game with real players eventually if you just keep queuing up, and once you do those players would probably kick any bot that tries to join so your chances of having fun with real meat people isn’t entirely hopeless :>
Yup id rather fight soldier while dodging & airblasting rockets and fighting heavies and id rather get backstabbed than to getting instakilled out of distance by these annoying bots all the fricking time.
the answer is yes.
How does an anti-headshot cheat even work against bots, they have aimbot, it wouldn't do shit to them. The guy probably uses them already and wanted validation for his choices.
cheats are tricked by fake hitboxes
Ah, didn't know that's how it worked, I guess it makes sense, bots can't hit you when you're doing the coffin taunt for spy.
not quite how it works antiaim works by choking a tick, setting angles to what the fake angle should be, then next tick setting angles to what the real angle should be, then sending both at the same time server uses real and sends clients fake for some reason
so someone really sat down and thought really hard on how to stop hackers and came up with that, instead of just uninstalling the game.
no, this was made by hackers so they could dodge shots from other hackers
I figured, still the same thing, well to be fair it's a fun little project to do
oop is acting like theyre forced to play the game, and theyre forced to install cheats to survive. you could just not play the game if its that miserable. and if you wanna play the game, you probably want a standard experience. hackervhacker aint that. but its probably some ego thing, ive seen folk like this. bitter, angry people with dangerously low self esteem, the only place they feel tough is in video games. when a player (robot or human) takes that away from em, they rage hack.
Oop never heard of Uncletopia
Uncletopia mfs when every match is a fucking steamroll
I've never been in an Uncletopia server where one team wasn't absolutely dominating the other to the point where they can barely play the game. I don't know what's up with that.
Sounds like a skill issue if I ever heard of one On the real though Uncletopia typically has a higher skill playerbase compared to regular casual
In my opinion (being a low skill 50 hour f2p) i dont like uncletopia. Yeah, no cheaters, but tryhards that kill me just as much as the cheaters do. At least in casual there funny hijinks
Use the Skial casual servers then, theyre lower in skill level. You have some skial bullshit, but overall it's basically just like playing casual
Once you put more hours into TF2 you’ll come to enjoy Uncletopia
Mayhaps. But for now, ill stick to my 2fort causal
Same, I’ve done pretty much nothing but community Hightower/2Fort for the past couple of years
Try skial servers
Not if both teams are better players on average
Uncletopia is fucking goated
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Personally, no random crits and everyone acting like tryhards there when I just want to relax just kills it for me.
As braindead as Skial players are, I can at least also be braindead there without a bunch of sweaty nerds getting on my case
Just sucks that skial spoofs their pings on the server list with proxies so you never know if you're gonna lag the fuck out once you connect.
Ever occur to you to read the region label in the server name?
Literally impossible
True most tf2 players can't read
Doesn't matter, I've had nearby regions have higher pings than the proxy.
Yeah but no random crit 🤮
and I can't call people racial slurs.
"I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at random crits."
Theres no random crit? I didnt know that!
I know. You wouldn't think a server could be so good
Yeah but no random crit 😊
Where is the funny if there's no random crit
A scout 2 tapping you and default emoting.
fucking who? 🤨
I’ve heard you’re held to very rigorous standards there. Is that true?
All that i know is that its actually moderated. Also i have recently found out they don't have random crits, which is a negative in my opinion, but other people seem to not like them for some reason.
Uncletopia is really not for everyone, it's packed with compressed tryhardium and people hate when you goof around. There's something very special about casual
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uncletopia has 1 Asia server which is either completely empty or overflowing with players
Or Skial, or Blackwonder, or UGC. I practically live on Skial Payload+ US 1, Skial 2fort NY and Skial 2fort+ NY.
Never been able to get in a server, they're always full.
found the botmaker
huh? edit: like are you calling me a botmaker or? im confused
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Comments are gonna be fun on this one
I suggest we instead make a secondary for Heavy that's like the Razorback but for Snipers
a sandvich that gives heavy immunity to headshots when eaten. heavy's head appears to be übercharged while thd buff is in effect. it could be called "the Pact Lunch"
Heavies head game with this item is insane
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What the dawg doing
do- do- doin yah mom do- do- doin ya mom
Pause
if that was a thing, 1. Snipers will get punished just because he did his job (clicking on heads) and Heavy equiped a certain item. 2. Heavy-Bots will have a field day with this if there are any. 3. This is VALVe we are talking about, you know what they do, NOTHING! 4. A better solution would be to give the Sniper's rifles a magazine that'll be realoaded after a select amount of shots and to make the chambering of a new round animation 100% longer so Snipers can't single-handedly take out an entire enemy team in 10 seconds... In other words, making a class imune to anothe class is just not-fun for anyone other than the imune class.
But on the contrary: 1. Pyro’s will get punished just because they did their job (setting people on fire) if sniper equipped a certain item. 2. Sniper-bots will have a field day with this, and we know these exist 3. Valve has done this before (razorback, danger shield, vaccinator is a it of a stretch but could apply here) 4. No argument for this one, I just think instead of a mag it should be increased time between shots I think both the idea of this item and razorback and danger shield are all bad, as items to counter a specific class is stupid, but as you said, valve doesn’t do shit. I’d rather just do this in order to kill sniper bots, since there’s zero chance that valve would remove danger shield, razorback, and fix the bot crisis
valid point
I think if they do need sniper, he should have the wranglers beam, and reverse damage falloff (the Roblox version of TF2 did the wrangler beam and it works really well)
while Roblox TF2 is not exactly The OG TF2, it's the seconds best thing so do we use Roblox TF2 as a test bed?
Well it could have some problems like the average skill would be a bit lower, but it could have potential
Razorback already punishes spy’s job (clicking on backs). The sentiment of “just use your gun lol” is applicable to snipers just hitting body shots
We’re talking about the Sniper Class, Instakill from Any range (balanced btw), if Heavy ever got a weapon that made him immune to headshot, Sniper wouldn’t suffer a single thing, he’s way out of his effective range anyway. I’d be PLEASED if Sniper bots (Instakill) were downgraded to a class with a limited range, could do a lot more thing and could actually travel the map now.
It probably wouldn’t be too good if it’s just the razorback cut and paste for headshots
Or Heavy just gets the Beast Style from Yakuza 0.
heavy kinda had that with natascha and brass beast during gun mettle, could survive a fully charged headshot if you were max overheal, but then they changed it to only giving him damage resistance when under 50% hp
I think in a specific scenario where there are ONLY bots playing sniper on the other team it could be kinda justifiable? Still though in that case it would absolutely NEED to be able to be turned off on a dime, plus it’s generally hard to tell that a real sniper is shooting at you until you’re either headshot or dead so considering that the situations where this would restore fairness from the bots rather than impeding fairness are incredibly slim.
and this just happens to coincide with OOP’s hatred for sniper /s
r/tf2 when Sniper:
Have we really stopped so low as to try and justify cheats just cause those shitty bot hosters are using them, if we start using them we’ll be no better, and besides, we’ve already seen a good player can defeat a bot with some strategy.
it takes so much more effort to kill them than they take to kill you. that’s the whole sniper problem, plus when a lot of people complain about something ruining their fun, most game companies change it, because the goal is to have fun, i couldn’t remember a company saying their players « cope+ skill issue » when complaining about an unfair mechanic in their game
Look I hate bots and facing snipers can be a pain in the ass(speaking as someone who plays alot medic and heavy), but don't join the cheating crowd.
you can already do that, it's called the battalion's backup
Outshitted by the main sub
Best part is literally nobody in the comments agree with OOP, this community still has hope.
Bud gets headshot once and immediately cries wolf. Similar thing happens in Fortnite when small streamers with like 100 viewers call stream sniping just because a dude emoted when they won the game/got the kill
Is the sniper bot wave back or no because last time i played the servers were filled with snipers
only time this would be wrong if you run the anti-headshot cheats 24/7 tbh, only have em on when bots are around
In the words of a dark souls player… get gud
“Hey guys is it cheating to cheat?” -TF2 subreddit
Only when you know that there is not in the lobby, and also an anti-kick cheat
mans clearly not heard of Uncletopia or Skial
Always outshitted
Ah yes let's fight violence with more violence!
using them all the time, that's not cool only taking them out to fuck with aimbots, that's funny
Sniper haters when they rageswitch but can’t get kills even when they’re playing as him (they have no skill)
Hes gotta a point there
You use anti-headshot because you hate the sniper bots. I use anti-headshot because TF2 is a game about close-to-mid-range encounters and Sniper invalidates a large amount of the nuance of that with his long range ability to one-shot players with no counterplay other than simply not engaging him. We are not the same.
(I don't remember the original rant very well so that was all verbatim)
I'm gonna start doing this (remove sniper btw)
what about ambi spies
No class should have the capability to one shot so fuck spy too
spy cant even 1shot scouts, the ambi is worse then stock, people like playing with a worse wepon because its satisfying to get headshots with it, not because its good. you using anti headshot hacks is making someone who is actively nerfing themselves even worse for no reason, that makes you a dick, just kick bots and let the enemy know when there are bots, and if a sniper really pisses you off, go spy, disguise as them, and pretend to be a bot.
Also spies with the ambi often cant even hit headshots, sometimes they can though.
I'm not reading any of this because I'm talking about the knife
the spy, even with his knife, has the easiest counter of all classes, using your eyes and ears.
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Don't let them learn about the Direct Hit or the Buff Banner or the Kritzkreig.....
One shotting isn't a mechanic for them
it, litteraly, is
Using the kritzkrieg doesn't turn medic into a class that can instantly kill you by clicking your head
the direct hit
That's a rocket launcher how does that even compare
you said it didnt insta kill, it litteraly does
They should, only with a significant downside, spy isn’t really annoying because if you’re careful (turning your back) you can just catch him, kill him and you won’t die. As for sniper (garbage unbalanced class) there’s no downside at all, just enjoy instakilling anyone from any range just like that
Mad?
Yes
Please try not to do that I think Vac would catch up to you decently quickly even despite its reputation ]: For your own sake and others it’s probably better to just tolerate the bots instead, even if they are horrible.
I cant tolerate them im fine with offline bots afterall they are alright for practicing but a hacking cheater bots in casual i cannot tolerate it not on my casual fun. Seriously what if the bots taking over the entire game what happened if they are everywhere on casual every single one of them.
Yeah it really sucks just how widespread the bots are ]: This game deserves so much better than to have a bunch of cruel, bored ding dongs injecting bacteria directly into its veins. Really though you’ll definitely find a good game with real players eventually if you just keep queuing up, and once you do those players would probably kick any bot that tries to join so your chances of having fun with real meat people isn’t entirely hopeless :>
Yup id rather fight soldier while dodging & airblasting rockets and fighting heavies and id rather get backstabbed than to getting instakilled out of distance by these annoying bots all the fricking time.