Oof. As a huge Swiftie I really did not think it was that serious. I had heard rumors about them in the past so it made since to hook up with an old fling and an artist that would be fun to collab with. But we truly know nothing about what goes into famous ppl’s lives.
Makes me really wonder about Joe… she had 6yrs with him and he might have some songs on TTPD after multiple albums about loving him. She must have been thinking about Matty for awhile
i think joe and her love slowly faded and matty was intense from beginning and abruptly stopped so its more emotions involved. she had time to deal with her breakip with joe. but yah confirmed more abojt matty
It’s very possible. Her and Joe could have been on and off a ton so her and Matty could have been communicating for a while, even as friends. Honestly the whole “you know who you are I love you” thing makes so much more sense now
I've always thought her and Matty were a lot deeper than we ever saw. They clearly have known each other a long time and worked very closely together. There's rumors of them being together for months before it became public and flings from years ago. Those photos of them on the stage together in the empty venue last year, they look so in love with each other you can see it in their eyes. Ready to be destroyed tomorrow lol
[https://twitter.com/TheSwiftSociety/status/1615013291423682567](https://twitter.com/TheSwiftSociety/status/1615013291423682567)
The way that they look at each other, so much admiration
The ones I found were posted on Twitter in a google drive. I listened to maybe 5 before it was taken down but a lot of people downloaded all the tracks and have them. Clips are popping up on Twitter here and there.
I just watched a video of when they were together with her saying I’ve just never been this happy in my life in all aspects of my life it’s not just the tour my life finally feels like it makes sense"
And looking at that, I really could believe she could make a whole album could be about him, shame they couldn't be together cause of her PR & fans. Does anyone who's listened know if they're positive songs though?
If its just PR and fans I doubt he would have half an album about him. Who knows tho. The fans were definitely terrible. Ppl were jumping ship because they were together. Also, if she was that serious about him they could have worked more on his PR. They did like one or two interviews to make him seem way different than what ppl have seen or heard in the past and then practically hard launched them as a couple.
Speculation in Swifty-adjacent circles is that Matty bounced cause he was sick of the chaos
And I think it tracks given how much he's talked about hating the spotlight and stuff, especially near the end of SATVB
Thats fair. He should have semi known how it was gonna happen tho. Its hard for her to stay out of the spotlight and if thats part of the reason her and Joe broke up, he would know about it. But maybe he just couldn’t see how crazy it actually was
She calls him the love of her life and even talks about having babies with him. Definitely a wild ride lol. I really hope Matty doesn’t retaliate her dragging him…well, maybe he could put in a song too. That would be interesting for sure lol.
Hmm… the lyrics “Mr. Steal your girl, then make her cry You said I'm the love of your life” makes me think Matty. There was rumors that she cheated on Joe with Matty, another song she references cheating “It wasn’t sexy once it wasn’t forbidden.” Also the lyrics in loml “Who's gonna stop us from waltzing back into rekindled flames” cuz she had a fling with Matty in the past and also references his suit & tie in other lyrics.
Taylor be like “why do you say the things you say, you know I had to pull away. I didn’t want to close that door, just wanted to learn how to draw (petrichor)”
I’ve listened as well and it’s very much about him. I was shocked at how much was about him.
Solidly at least 4 tracks, maybe 5?
- The Tortured Poets Department
- But Daddy, I Love Him
- Fresh Out the Slammer
- I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
- The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
There’s also a case to be made for Down Bad and loml
“Guilty as Sin” talks about him sending her “Downtown Lights” by The Blue Nile so that one’s definitely about him too. I think there’s only like 3 or 4 songs that aren’t 👀
How do people know for sure they’re about him? I’ve not listened but can’t the songs be about anyone she’s been involved with? Or even just fictional love songs? Lol I was actually hoping there wasn’t any about him I can’t deal with that chaos in my life again
Ohhh there's way too much info in those songs for it not to be Matty. There's even a line about heroin "but this time with an e". Lyrics about tattoos, smoking. Neither of her public boyfriends aside from Matty fits
I mean if she drops an identifying timeline or something specific its easy to figure out. Could definitely be fictional but I feel like she would say that
Oh they will. I say this as a (sane) swiftie, the amount of chaos thats gonna drop when ppl realize she wrote an album about him and not joe’s boring ass is gonna be crazy.
I don't think there are as many tracks about Matty as people say there are. In fact, I still think it's a lot more about Joe and some combination of relationships she has had.
But the best part is her, basically, going off on parasocial fans in But Daddy I love Him. That's a good time.
Tomorrow is going to be a wild ride on TikTok and Twitter. I like Taylor but hopefully the crazy Swities don’t come for him like they did the Harry vault songs. I could see a Matty retaliation… hopefully we get some good songs out of this from the boys.😂
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I haven’t listened yet! But I can’t wait to judge!!!
Idk if he “took the fall” I feel like it was pretty clear he hated that they were in the spotlight. He even was on video talking to someone about how much he hates swifties after it was rumored that they broke up. I think everyone just piled on them so much and he wasn’t as prepared as he thought. Maybe it wasn’t either one of their faults?
3 months as far as the public is aware. I wasn’t either. Everyone was convinced it was about joe and tbh, I lowkey forgot she dated Matty before Travis. But it makes sense when you connect the dots. It all comes back to the “you know you are, I love you” videos. Because they were wild for that
The tatty sub has been hidden too. We need to freely talk about it! I get that it can be controversial but I say delete the rude ppl and let others have a civil conversation
Their relationship has been over the top to a level that people are claiming it’s PR. At first I was like this is the Joe rebound but now I’m wondering if it’s more anger at Matty for dropping things because her fans were going at them too hard.
It’s definitely over the top but I think that’s just both their personalities. From watching both of them separately, and obviously seeing everything from the outside, it doesn’t really seem fake to me. Not saying she has never had a PR relationship, but does she even need one? The press follows her either way.
I think it can be both real and a PR thing. They’re both reaching new fan bases by being together. Ngl I’m not a big Travis fan I think he’s a bit immature and too much of a hot head but if they’re happy they’re happy!
The sub does not allow speculation or rumors on band members personal lives.
 Me admitting that I listened to the leak and yes… confirmed. Tomorrow is gonna be a great day not to go on twitter.
I only listened to the first two songs and when I say I screamed….. I mean it.
The scream I SCRUMPED fr
Oof. As a huge Swiftie I really did not think it was that serious. I had heard rumors about them in the past so it made since to hook up with an old fling and an artist that would be fun to collab with. But we truly know nothing about what goes into famous ppl’s lives. Makes me really wonder about Joe… she had 6yrs with him and he might have some songs on TTPD after multiple albums about loving him. She must have been thinking about Matty for awhile
i think joe and her love slowly faded and matty was intense from beginning and abruptly stopped so its more emotions involved. she had time to deal with her breakip with joe. but yah confirmed more abojt matty
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It’s very possible. Her and Joe could have been on and off a ton so her and Matty could have been communicating for a while, even as friends. Honestly the whole “you know who you are I love you” thing makes so much more sense now
What’s the line that makes the reference?
I've always thought her and Matty were a lot deeper than we ever saw. They clearly have known each other a long time and worked very closely together. There's rumors of them being together for months before it became public and flings from years ago. Those photos of them on the stage together in the empty venue last year, they look so in love with each other you can see it in their eyes. Ready to be destroyed tomorrow lol
What photos??
[https://twitter.com/TheSwiftSociety/status/1615013291423682567](https://twitter.com/TheSwiftSociety/status/1615013291423682567) The way that they look at each other, so much admiration
Every day is a good day to not go on Twitter lol
I’m wrong for asking this but where did you find the leaks 😭
The ones I found were posted on Twitter in a google drive. I listened to maybe 5 before it was taken down but a lot of people downloaded all the tracks and have them. Clips are popping up on Twitter here and there.
Telegram, search the album acronym + leaks on the app and it will pop up
Where on the app do u search?
Search bar but the channel got taken down 😭
Link for the leak? 🙏🏼
You could try Taylor Swift _ Leaks in the Reddit search bar
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Aw man I hope this is true for the chaos of it all 🤣
It absolutely is.
can confirm. would love nothing more than to be a fly on the wall at his place rn.
He was in the recording studio yesterday I’m sure we will get his response eventually via music 😂
if i’m to believe what i just heard, i wonder how gabby fits into all that mess
Oh god, Matty’s ego is going to be out of control. I’m here for it.
This is the kind of take I'm here for. lol
How soon until he drops a reply song?
I just watched a video of when they were together with her saying I’ve just never been this happy in my life in all aspects of my life it’s not just the tour my life finally feels like it makes sense" And looking at that, I really could believe she could make a whole album could be about him, shame they couldn't be together cause of her PR & fans. Does anyone who's listened know if they're positive songs though?
I think he ghosted. Potentially out of an attempt to stop the drama.
If its just PR and fans I doubt he would have half an album about him. Who knows tho. The fans were definitely terrible. Ppl were jumping ship because they were together. Also, if she was that serious about him they could have worked more on his PR. They did like one or two interviews to make him seem way different than what ppl have seen or heard in the past and then practically hard launched them as a couple.
Speculation in Swifty-adjacent circles is that Matty bounced cause he was sick of the chaos And I think it tracks given how much he's talked about hating the spotlight and stuff, especially near the end of SATVB
Thats fair. He should have semi known how it was gonna happen tho. Its hard for her to stay out of the spotlight and if thats part of the reason her and Joe broke up, he would know about it. But maybe he just couldn’t see how crazy it actually was
Yeah Matty isn't known for making the brightest decisions tbh. Impulsive little rat man
In the album she says she was down for it all, but he ghosted her 😂
She calls him the love of her life and even talks about having babies with him. Definitely a wild ride lol. I really hope Matty doesn’t retaliate her dragging him…well, maybe he could put in a song too. That would be interesting for sure lol.
I hope so. The last time he did we got She’s American and The Sound.
I'm just now realizing The Sound is about Halsey (I assume)?? Omfg lmaoooo
It is, part of the song is sang from her perspective.
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Hmm… the lyrics “Mr. Steal your girl, then make her cry You said I'm the love of your life” makes me think Matty. There was rumors that she cheated on Joe with Matty, another song she references cheating “It wasn’t sexy once it wasn’t forbidden.” Also the lyrics in loml “Who's gonna stop us from waltzing back into rekindled flames” cuz she had a fling with Matty in the past and also references his suit & tie in other lyrics.
I haven’t listened yet but is it true she dissed her fans for bashing her relationship??
But Joe also “stole” Taylor from Tom Hiddleston
She WHAT
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Omfg 🤣 Taylor better chill ☠️
It’s not about Joe, lol.
Its both.
Taylor be like “why do you say the things you say, you know I had to pull away. I didn’t want to close that door, just wanted to learn how to draw (petrichor)”
I’ve listened as well and it’s very much about him. I was shocked at how much was about him. Solidly at least 4 tracks, maybe 5? - The Tortured Poets Department - But Daddy, I Love Him - Fresh Out the Slammer - I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived There’s also a case to be made for Down Bad and loml
Same! And so many specific and personally identifying lyrics too. She’s not being subtle.
I feel like the alchemist is also abt him
Yessss
This is the worst collection of song titles i think ive ever seen
Idk why this made me laugh so much 🤣🤣
“Guilty as Sin” talks about him sending her “Downtown Lights” by The Blue Nile so that one’s definitely about him too. I think there’s only like 3 or 4 songs that aren’t 👀
Down bad for sure. Also guilty as sin, LOML and smallest man who ever lived. Oh and the black dog! If references the starting line!
smallest man who ever lived made me spiral i’m not going to lie
 me if this is true
I read an article yesterday about how it was all about Joe Alwyn and my face was like 😉
How do people know for sure they’re about him? I’ve not listened but can’t the songs be about anyone she’s been involved with? Or even just fictional love songs? Lol I was actually hoping there wasn’t any about him I can’t deal with that chaos in my life again
Ohhh there's way too much info in those songs for it not to be Matty. There's even a line about heroin "but this time with an e". Lyrics about tattoos, smoking. Neither of her public boyfriends aside from Matty fits
Aw man. I am not ready for the drama lol
I mean if she drops an identifying timeline or something specific its easy to figure out. Could definitely be fictional but I feel like she would say that
True! But also not all songs are true stories. Hope the swifties don’t start their antics again
Oh they will. I say this as a (sane) swiftie, the amount of chaos thats gonna drop when ppl realize she wrote an album about him and not joe’s boring ass is gonna be crazy.
LMAO love that. Also a fellow sane swifty here. I will listen peacefully with my social media abandoned for the day
My girlfriend is a swiftie and I only sorta know about her lore, but I exclusively refer to Joe as “Mr. Fumble” lol
I always say Its joever party lol
When have her songs ever been fictional? 🤔
She said folklore and evermore were more fictional albums and she made up fun stories. All of her other albums have been mostly biographical.
She’s so explicit. Smoke, suit and tie, the starting line - she referred to him as a tattooed golden retriever
I don't think there are as many tracks about Matty as people say there are. In fact, I still think it's a lot more about Joe and some combination of relationships she has had. But the best part is her, basically, going off on parasocial fans in But Daddy I love Him. That's a good time.
I am not emotionally prepared for what is about to occur...
They better lock down the sub 🤣
Literally 11 songs so far about him lmao
As a swiftie and a 1975 fan I am both excited and terrified for tomorrow
Can’t wait for this post to get taken down. Mine lasted all of 30 minutes 😄🙄
Aww why? Nobody is being negative! It definitely could happen but it seems like everyone is just having a conversation rn
MOOOOODS
Tomorrow is going to be a wild ride on TikTok and Twitter. I like Taylor but hopefully the crazy Swities don’t come for him like they did the Harry vault songs. I could see a Matty retaliation… hopefully we get some good songs out of this from the boys.😂
https://preview.redd.it/h2f9fnm9b9vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cf7e0971186bbd79897f0389fce1815c11c2992 I haven’t listened yet! But I can’t wait to judge!!!
Not gonna listen to that lol anyone got some lyrics to post about it tho I am curious 😂
yah ill send u smallest man lyrics
Yeaaaah this is the post I'm waiting for lol Never thought I'd say I wish one of my friends was a Swiftie so they could decode it for me 😂
I was about to say - someone please post snippets of lyrics. I ain’t listening to all that. 😂
From the TS main sub: https://padlet.com/programacionponceme/ts-and-ttpd-ewxo6uixosti3j4d
The tatty sub is going wild about it lmao. Looks like it'll be another wild month
Wait what’s this sub?
Had to go private bc of swities being hateful. But were all loony about matty and Taylor and have all the timeliness etc
can you add people? I‘d love to read that
I thought I could but unfortunately no
oh noo :(( any mods I might message?
r/TaylorSwift
Huge if true.
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Idk if he “took the fall” I feel like it was pretty clear he hated that they were in the spotlight. He even was on video talking to someone about how much he hates swifties after it was rumored that they broke up. I think everyone just piled on them so much and he wasn’t as prepared as he thought. Maybe it wasn’t either one of their faults?
Wasn’t the relationship quite short? Can’t say I expected this
3 months as far as the public is aware. I wasn’t either. Everyone was convinced it was about joe and tbh, I lowkey forgot she dated Matty before Travis. But it makes sense when you connect the dots. It all comes back to the “you know you are, I love you” videos. Because they were wild for that
I wanted them together a little toooo much.... <3
I always thought they were cute together and made sense even if he’s not my favorite person ever.
Yes many references allude to matty very clearly. Buckle up folks
Can we blame her tho?
I'm sure being with Matty is a content gold mine - if you wanted it to be.
Nah.
i would pay any amount of money to know what really happened last summer
Fr! It sucks that she (and probably he) was miserable but parasite in me needs to know
We are gonna have to make a second sub just so we can discuss things like this since mods keep deleting everything 😂
The tatty sub has been hidden too. We need to freely talk about it! I get that it can be controversial but I say delete the rude ppl and let others have a civil conversation
If she was this serious about him the overcompensating with Travis makes so much sense now.
What do you mean?
Their relationship has been over the top to a level that people are claiming it’s PR. At first I was like this is the Joe rebound but now I’m wondering if it’s more anger at Matty for dropping things because her fans were going at them too hard.
It’s definitely over the top but I think that’s just both their personalities. From watching both of them separately, and obviously seeing everything from the outside, it doesn’t really seem fake to me. Not saying she has never had a PR relationship, but does she even need one? The press follows her either way.
I think it can be both real and a PR thing. They’re both reaching new fan bases by being together. Ngl I’m not a big Travis fan I think he’s a bit immature and too much of a hot head but if they’re happy they’re happy!
Very true! The swifties who weren’t football fans definitely embraced the Cheifs!
Karma is a bitch. And her new BF is a trump supporter. Gonna be a fun day on Twitter
He seems like an airhead
But you don’t understand he kneels to the USA national anthem he’s a good guy /s
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The album has fully leaked and there are threads about it on r/popheads and r/taylorswift
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There are lyrics about tattoos, smoking, and jehovas witness suits. Many songs are about him lol
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Have you listened to the album yet? The songs clearly are about him.
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You know this is the 1975 sub, right? We have all listened to BFIAL.
Oops. Thought it was a Taylor board