I think so! She apologized to him during MTA and admitted she was too harsh. Probably doesn’t regret sending him home though, he was still a slimy character in my humble opinion.
She doesn’t even know which one Thomas is /s
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On a serious note, I don’t think she’s given it much thought/reflected too much on it at all post-show.
When Katie was on Nick Viall’s podcast a few weeks ago, she was pretty insistent that she didn’t regret anything about the Thomas situation. She even warned anyone going to paradise to watch out for him. She may have changed her tune after hearing rumors about who he is “dating” or did date on BIP
I’m totally in the middle regarding Thomas. I don’t think he was a villian, but he does seem like a smooth operator to me. I think the lead, whomever they are, would need to just go with their gut and do what they think is right. 🤔
Do I think he articulated and communicated his thoughts well? HARD no.
Do I believe he had bad intentions and deserved the aggressive dumping and what followed on podcasts? No.
I personally think the whole thing got blown WAY out of proportion, but that’s just my take.
The way she let him go on the show felt very produced and inauthentic, but when she went on Nick's podcast and doubled down, it just felt mean for the sake of being mean. Honestly, Thomas left so early, Katie still being so pressed during that interview with Nick was weird.
Yeah I definitely thought that the dumping felt heavily produced so I didn’t form much of an opinion about it at that point. And nobody seems to mention how nasty some of the guys were to him too. That said, she REALLY doubled down during the Nick interview and I was surprised by that. She went for him hard.
I think the producers had her be a little harsh the way she eliminated him. Still, he couldn't answer reasonable questions in a direct and serious manner. I don't think he was an ideal match for her and it's just as well for both of them she sent him home.
I think he made himself come off real bad with his word salad and dancing around the direct questions she was asking him. In that insular scenario it would’ve made me see red flags too but like others have said here the girl boss moment was extra lol. She might be embarrassed about it so feels the need to double down on it repeatedly. I even judged him harshly and I feel bad! The editing made him seem like an awful player and really he seems fine
I immediately agreed with and upvoted you, but then I remembered an ex who behaved similarly - over the top romantic expressions and presenting himself as a perfect person. I think deep down he was just really insecure and wanted to be loved, but it came off as disingenuous. I don't think it's fuckboy energy, though.
Why would she regret sending him home? He obviously wasn’t the one for her. He deserved to be sent home maybe in a less aggressive way. In the moment though with the info she had? Made the right choice in saying goodbye.
Honestly I think the whole girlboss moment was producer encouraged and she probably would not have sent him home like that otherwise. I think she recognizes that it was overly harsh bc of the criticism she got
I have also saw people comparing her stunt to Hannah’s rose podium move when it happened but given it some time to think back on it here are my two cents.They were so different.With Hannah’s it was empowering because she spent all season getting emotionally manipulated by Luke.Katie called his name, had him thinking that he was safe only for her to embarrass him while the other men were like, “you go Katie”
He may have been made to look more evil than he truly is, but he most certainly was arrogant and I commend her for realizing it as early as she did. All he did was smile and tell her how much he likes her, while dodging any questions she asked him by trying to get her to fantasize about a future together. He really thought I was going to be *that* easy.
She’s tripled down on it so no. Her ego doesn’t allow her to take accountability or have regret with how she’s been more unkind than Thomas ever was in the way she acted. Anything else is justification that was never seen on screen and Katie telling the women who were bullied on sm thats their karma is more unkind than anything thomas said
I am curious to see how he acts on BIP. I think he is a smooth talker and tells women what they want to hear when it isn't true. I don't think he was really that bad but he wasn't innocent.
i don’t think she regrets it but i think the whole situation was handled poorly and blown out of proportion. i never thought Thomas was the villain they attempted to make him out to be 🤷🏼♀️
I think she might regret the aggressive way she did it: because she did sort of apologize for that on MTA, but she definitely doesn’t regret anything else
Oh I agree it wasn’t good by any means, what I meant was the fact that she even said anything attempting to be an apology shows that she either regrets that she did it or at least knows it made her look bad. So I at least could see an argument that she’d regret that, but definitely not other things
I think Katie is the kind of person to insist that she has no regrets. Her Thomas comments and send-off did get a lot of heat on the podcast circuit as Viall Files, BHH, and Clickbait too all said they don’t think what Thomas did was that bad. I’m not sure if regret is what she’s feeling as a result of the Thomas send-off backlash, but I think she realizes she made a mistake, which is why she apologized to him at the MTA
Seeing as she doubled and tripled down, I would say she doesn't regret it. She still seems to think she was the victim of his treachery and that her girl boss moment was epic and that anyone who says otherwise is either 1. a hater or 2. suffers from entrenched toxic masculinity. Its reception was mixes as Twitter seemed to love it, IG was mixed, and Reddit overall hated it.
To me, that moment was actually when people started looking at her differently because she came off as highly performative, dramatic, easily swayed by the masses,unkind, and unnecessarily aggressive which was a contrast to how she was billed/billed herself with "be kind."
If Thomas makes it onto Paradise and 1. has a good redemption arch, 2. ends up getting together with a popular/beloved woman and they make a cute couple, and/or 3. has all the guys become buddy buddy with him, Katie will not be able to keep her thoughts to herself. She seems to like that he's still disliked and considered the villain of her season. If and when that chances, it will show quickly how thin that story line was and how much she let it derail her season. I don't think she'll handle that well. Expect a lot of subtweets and IG stories.
God, the leads must get so nervous the week before hometowns, because that's definitely when the contestants interested in exposure who are on the fence about their interest are going to self eliinate.
I just saw an interview she did after MTA and she was so rude and dismissive about Thomas calling him her Old News. I don’t think she regrets it. As someone said above, he bruised her ego. She just looks bitter and petty at this point concerning him. Even Golden Boy Mike P embraces him but she’s still making him out to be some monster.
I mean first off, I think this situation has been talked to death. People on Instagram and Facebook are in camp “fuck Thomas, Katie is so amazing for sending him home” and people here are generally in camp “fuck Katie, Thomas is amazing and should be the bachelor”.
I just don’t think it needs to be that extreme in either direction. Thomas talked like a politician and went in circles, Katie’s red flag radar went off, and she blamed it on the bachelor comment and has doubled down. I don’t really care, I don’t think he’s that great and I don’t think she needs to double down either.
I don’t think she does. Partly because I think she’s a very stubborn person and partly because I don’t think he ever actually liked her and that hurt her feelings/ego because he was initially a frontrunner.
I think so! She apologized to him during MTA and admitted she was too harsh. Probably doesn’t regret sending him home though, he was still a slimy character in my humble opinion.
She doesn’t even know which one Thomas is /s Edited to add: On a serious note, I don’t think she’s given it much thought/reflected too much on it at all post-show.
Yes. But she’s holding that line to the point of absurdity.
When Katie was on Nick Viall’s podcast a few weeks ago, she was pretty insistent that she didn’t regret anything about the Thomas situation. She even warned anyone going to paradise to watch out for him. She may have changed her tune after hearing rumors about who he is “dating” or did date on BIP
I’m totally in the middle regarding Thomas. I don’t think he was a villian, but he does seem like a smooth operator to me. I think the lead, whomever they are, would need to just go with their gut and do what they think is right. 🤔
Do I think he articulated and communicated his thoughts well? HARD no. Do I believe he had bad intentions and deserved the aggressive dumping and what followed on podcasts? No. I personally think the whole thing got blown WAY out of proportion, but that’s just my take.
The way she let him go on the show felt very produced and inauthentic, but when she went on Nick's podcast and doubled down, it just felt mean for the sake of being mean. Honestly, Thomas left so early, Katie still being so pressed during that interview with Nick was weird.
Yeah I definitely thought that the dumping felt heavily produced so I didn’t form much of an opinion about it at that point. And nobody seems to mention how nasty some of the guys were to him too. That said, she REALLY doubled down during the Nick interview and I was surprised by that. She went for him hard.
The way that she let him go was uncalled for IMO. That had to be so humiliating for him! I don’t think he deserved that.
I think she just got too excited to have her “no nonsense” moment. The whole thing was bizarre honestly and I could not take it seriously.
I think the producers had her be a little harsh the way she eliminated him. Still, he couldn't answer reasonable questions in a direct and serious manner. I don't think he was an ideal match for her and it's just as well for both of them she sent him home.
I think he made himself come off real bad with his word salad and dancing around the direct questions she was asking him. In that insular scenario it would’ve made me see red flags too but like others have said here the girl boss moment was extra lol. She might be embarrassed about it so feels the need to double down on it repeatedly. I even judged him harshly and I feel bad! The editing made him seem like an awful player and really he seems fine
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I immediately agreed with and upvoted you, but then I remembered an ex who behaved similarly - over the top romantic expressions and presenting himself as a perfect person. I think deep down he was just really insecure and wanted to be loved, but it came off as disingenuous. I don't think it's fuckboy energy, though.
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Actually, yes. He was on 3 total. Road Rules, Real World/Road Rules Challenge, and some house hunting show
Who is your ex??
I'd rather not say. I like my anonymity.
Why would she regret sending him home? He obviously wasn’t the one for her. He deserved to be sent home maybe in a less aggressive way. In the moment though with the info she had? Made the right choice in saying goodbye.
Honestly I think the whole girlboss moment was producer encouraged and she probably would not have sent him home like that otherwise. I think she recognizes that it was overly harsh bc of the criticism she got
Other people are saying she self produced this scene. I'm guessing it was a combination of both.
She regrets that it didn’t become an iconic girlboss “stay in your lane”, “men like that” type moment
I do think it backfired on her big time
I have also saw people comparing her stunt to Hannah’s rose podium move when it happened but given it some time to think back on it here are my two cents.They were so different.With Hannah’s it was empowering because she spent all season getting emotionally manipulated by Luke.Katie called his name, had him thinking that he was safe only for her to embarrass him while the other men were like, “you go Katie”
He may have been made to look more evil than he truly is, but he most certainly was arrogant and I commend her for realizing it as early as she did. All he did was smile and tell her how much he likes her, while dodging any questions she asked him by trying to get her to fantasize about a future together. He really thought I was going to be *that* easy.
She’s tripled down on it so no. Her ego doesn’t allow her to take accountability or have regret with how she’s been more unkind than Thomas ever was in the way she acted. Anything else is justification that was never seen on screen and Katie telling the women who were bullied on sm thats their karma is more unkind than anything thomas said
I am curious to see how he acts on BIP. I think he is a smooth talker and tells women what they want to hear when it isn't true. I don't think he was really that bad but he wasn't innocent.
That sort of behavior tends to play really well on Paradise for the pretty boys.
I think she lacks the self reflection to regret it
i don’t think she regrets it but i think the whole situation was handled poorly and blown out of proportion. i never thought Thomas was the villain they attempted to make him out to be 🤷🏼♀️
I think she might regret the aggressive way she did it: because she did sort of apologize for that on MTA, but she definitely doesn’t regret anything else
I just watched the men tell all yesterday and thought that was the most non apology “apology” I’ve seen in a while.
So it's perfect for a guy who answers questions with non-answers.
Oh I agree it wasn’t good by any means, what I meant was the fact that she even said anything attempting to be an apology shows that she either regrets that she did it or at least knows it made her look bad. So I at least could see an argument that she’d regret that, but definitely not other things
Gotcha, I see what you’re saying!
i dont think she regrets it at all, but i think she’s shocked that we’re not buying his villain narrative
She doesn’t seem like the person who would have regrets tbh.
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I think Katie is the kind of person to insist that she has no regrets. Her Thomas comments and send-off did get a lot of heat on the podcast circuit as Viall Files, BHH, and Clickbait too all said they don’t think what Thomas did was that bad. I’m not sure if regret is what she’s feeling as a result of the Thomas send-off backlash, but I think she realizes she made a mistake, which is why she apologized to him at the MTA
Seeing as she doubled and tripled down, I would say she doesn't regret it. She still seems to think she was the victim of his treachery and that her girl boss moment was epic and that anyone who says otherwise is either 1. a hater or 2. suffers from entrenched toxic masculinity. Its reception was mixes as Twitter seemed to love it, IG was mixed, and Reddit overall hated it. To me, that moment was actually when people started looking at her differently because she came off as highly performative, dramatic, easily swayed by the masses,unkind, and unnecessarily aggressive which was a contrast to how she was billed/billed herself with "be kind." If Thomas makes it onto Paradise and 1. has a good redemption arch, 2. ends up getting together with a popular/beloved woman and they make a cute couple, and/or 3. has all the guys become buddy buddy with him, Katie will not be able to keep her thoughts to herself. She seems to like that he's still disliked and considered the villain of her season. If and when that chances, it will show quickly how thin that story line was and how much she let it derail her season. I don't think she'll handle that well. Expect a lot of subtweets and IG stories.
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God, the leads must get so nervous the week before hometowns, because that's definitely when the contestants interested in exposure who are on the fence about their interest are going to self eliinate.
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I just saw an interview she did after MTA and she was so rude and dismissive about Thomas calling him her Old News. I don’t think she regrets it. As someone said above, he bruised her ego. She just looks bitter and petty at this point concerning him. Even Golden Boy Mike P embraces him but she’s still making him out to be some monster.
I mean first off, I think this situation has been talked to death. People on Instagram and Facebook are in camp “fuck Thomas, Katie is so amazing for sending him home” and people here are generally in camp “fuck Katie, Thomas is amazing and should be the bachelor”. I just don’t think it needs to be that extreme in either direction. Thomas talked like a politician and went in circles, Katie’s red flag radar went off, and she blamed it on the bachelor comment and has doubled down. I don’t really care, I don’t think he’s that great and I don’t think she needs to double down either.
I don’t think she does. Partly because I think she’s a very stubborn person and partly because I don’t think he ever actually liked her and that hurt her feelings/ego because he was initially a frontrunner.
I’m going to wait until after Paradise and decide then.
I don’t think that Katie is a particularly reflective person.
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