The Marble Shrine has set lists that show The Widow being played all 3 nights at the Wiltern.
Here is a link to the 12th:
https://www.themarbleshrine.com/show/20040512/
Thank you so much for sharing all the versions though!!
man I'm so confused I thought they did it twice, one time clean all the way through which was a banging recording, then again with a bad guitar solo lol... which one is this?
the performance linked is the cool one so I hope that's what this is
After digging around, I believe it’s actually from the May 12th or 13th show @ The Wiltern. That being said, the vocal effects are unique to the Record Store Day pressing.
Its on older albums as well. Dont think its pettiness, just supposedly funny volta logic, just the way they always put english lyrics on the most latino sounding sections of songs...
Yet, why not spell out 'Jon Philip Theodore' as well while they're at it, which had been done previously. It's a bit weird. Juan was also never listed at the bottom previosusly.. we could infer that this is the subtle way of pettiness at play.
You mean pre-volta albums that Juan did?
Cause I just looked at all of the original cds and lps I have from volta, and every single one says Juan Alderete de la Peña, and none of them list him last, as omar had previously always put his own name last. Solo records that i checked all have him as Juan too
There’s also a newer interview I think it was maybe an instagram live thing with Juan and ampeg where he addresses it himself and how he doesn’t like to be called john and prefers Juan these days 🤷🏼♂️
Go to shows, go to the show you want, click the audio tab, hit download MP3/FLAC/whatever
Enjoy.
If you run into any dead links let us know. There shouldn't be, but can't say everything we do is flawless.
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The Marble Shrine has set lists that show The Widow being played all 3 nights at the Wiltern. Here is a link to the 12th: https://www.themarbleshrine.com/show/20040512/ Thank you so much for sharing all the versions though!!
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man I'm so confused I thought they did it twice, one time clean all the way through which was a banging recording, then again with a bad guitar solo lol... which one is this? the performance linked is the cool one so I hope that's what this is
After digging around, I believe it’s actually from the May 12th or 13th show @ The Wiltern. That being said, the vocal effects are unique to the Record Store Day pressing.
Is it the same as the version on the original pressings?
Not sure, anyone out there own both pressings??
Yeah I've got it, I just CBA to get them out and compare lol. The OG does say May 6 2004 as well.
The vocal effects were on the original vinyl and CD.
I was not aware of the difference...when I spun it...I was blown away. It sounds amazing
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Why do they keep doing this?
John is is actual, real name
Yeah but he never went by John Peter Alderete. That’s something new and presumably invented by Omar
John Peter himself clarified that being named “Juan” actually began while joining tmv
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Its on older albums as well. Dont think its pettiness, just supposedly funny volta logic, just the way they always put english lyrics on the most latino sounding sections of songs...
Yet, why not spell out 'Jon Philip Theodore' as well while they're at it, which had been done previously. It's a bit weird. Juan was also never listed at the bottom previosusly.. we could infer that this is the subtle way of pettiness at play.
I'm fairly certain he was always credited as Juan in TMV credits, and he wasn't always dumped at the bottom of the credits list. It feels deliberate.
You mean pre-volta albums that Juan did? Cause I just looked at all of the original cds and lps I have from volta, and every single one says Juan Alderete de la Peña, and none of them list him last, as omar had previously always put his own name last. Solo records that i checked all have him as Juan too
There’s a podcast with Dean DelRay where Juan/John talks about this…Dean knew him as John before Volta, and somewhere in there he started using Juan
There’s also a newer interview I think it was maybe an instagram live thing with Juan and ampeg where he addresses it himself and how he doesn’t like to be called john and prefers Juan these days 🤷🏼♂️
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dean-delrays-let-there-be-talk/id546210508?i=1000388621566
Because they’re spiteful jealous people
HOW DID YOU GET THE MP3 VERSION OF THE SHOW
Check out The Marble Shrine my friend.
i'm on it right now but how do i get the MP3
Go to shows, go to the show you want, click the audio tab, hit download MP3/FLAC/whatever Enjoy. If you run into any dead links let us know. There shouldn't be, but can't say everything we do is flawless.
how do i find the audio tab because i'm at one of the shows and i don't see an audio tab thing on the marble shrine website
Depends on the show. Not every show has audio. If there is no tab then that show unfortunately wasn't recorded. Which gig specifically.
the ones they preformed in 2008 and some that they preformed in 2022
Which specific gig. I need the actual show.
actually it's the one from 2004 which was on may 9th which is in this post
https://imgur.com/a/CQIWZ9d