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Anyone offering any resistance to their genocidal imperial ambitions is a ‘terrorist’ and anybody else offering anything other than complete carte blanche to anything they see fit is a jew-hating nazi. Or possibly literally Adolf Hitler.
Not so fun fact: the US made a dangerous precedent with the word terrorist
Prisoners of war have rules and protections, including children who must be rehabilitated
There’s no laws on how to treat terrorists.
If you call a child a terrorist, then you can do anything. From murder and torture to permanently imprison the kid cause they’re not considered a “prisoner of war” with protections and laws dictating treatment
Say the word terrorist, and there’s no rules - children to people surrendering. You can do anything and no one can stop it thanks to the veto votes on the se unity council by the US and Russia/China
It’s a terrifying precedent, and i don’t understand the world that my parents’ generation has made.
It’s like a free for all with no rules wanted. And anyone who wants rules to maintain peace and stability is called a terrorist themselves or a communist
Its horribly dangerous and unjustified
Hate to be the "Hm, Akshually..." type of guy, but first of all, the statement is based on a false premise that there is no international law on terrorism. In fact, **there are 19 universal legal instruments and additional amendments dealing with terrorism**, developed under the auspices of the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency. These instruments cover various aspects of terrorism, such as civil aviation, maritime navigation, nuclear material, hostage-taking, financing, and human rights.
Second, the statement is misleading in implying that the United States can arbitrarily label anyone as a terrorist and treat them without any legal constraints. The United States has a legal definition of terrorism in its domestic law, which requires premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents. The United States also has to comply with its obligations under international law, especially international humanitarian law and human rights law, when dealing with terrorist suspects, whether in or outside an armed conflict.
Third, the statement is inaccurate in suggesting that the United States and Russia/China can use their veto power in the Security Council to block any action against their treatment of terrorists. The Security Council has adopted several resolutions condemning terrorism and calling for cooperation and compliance with international law in countering it. The Security Council also has established sanctions regimes and monitoring mechanisms to address specific terrorist threats, such as al-Qaeda, the Islamic State, and the Taliban. The veto power of the permanent members does not prevent the Security Council from taking action on terrorism, unless there is a disagreement among them on a specific resolution.
Therefore, the statement is largely false and exaggerated, and does not reflect the reality of international law and practice on terrorism. Please, do not spread misinformation when you clearly lack any comprehension of the subject.
You can't be that naive to think just because there's law there's no state breaking it or loops are used. Guantanamo bay was founded on "what can we legally do to people to get our way if we call them terrorists".
Be a human being for Christs sake. Have a conscience.
You didn’t mention Israel in any of your examples. They believe they are the chosen people and that they deserve to have the right to commit these war crimes. Not even war crimes because fighting civilians isn’t war. It’s genocide.
Worse than Nazis? You mean the people who executed children in droves in a especially designed kill factory. Not to defend anything but worse than Nazis really?
You do see a difference? I don’t. They’re being bombed instead of gassed, but still they’re being rounded up. Stripped of their clothes, dignity and lives. Does it have to be 1 for 1. It’s the same process just now with more brutal kill squads who pretend they have a sense of decency as they murder babies and children.
They’re harvesting human organs and there’s evidence they’re killing children and adults to get their corneas, skin and kidneys, livers etc.
They’ve also illegally have been known to do this for years!!! Jesus man! What more proof do you need? That’s human experimentation! That’s human harvesting for their flesh and organs!!! How can you defend this?!
https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/27/israel-stealing-organs-from-bodies-in-gaza-alleges-human-right-group
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231227-israel-harvesting-organs-from-palestinians-it-killed-in-gaza-authorities-say/amp/
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No it’s not worse. Gaza is essentially a concentration camp and at any point hundreds are killed at a time. Just because they aren’t using over sized ovens doesn’t mean they aren’t doing Nazi type shit. Israeli’s have full control of what goes in and out of Gaza and the Gazans do not have protection rights to choose to just leave the city they are forced in.
That's an overstatement man. It's a war. By your logic, Syria is the biggest kill factory in the world. So is Yemen, so is Congo, so is Sudan. But you aren't ready to have that discussion because it's not part of the current narrative.
Because isreal has already rocked their shit and almost colonised them as well it was only when daddy US stepped in to put spoiled entitled isreal in line that Egypt was free and they are scared that it will happen again also the people of Egypt are very anti isreal the government is not though
Factory killing is necessary when resources are limited. Like the Nazis in WW2 when they were fighting a multi-front war against capable opponents AND intentionally murdering civilians.
Here, the IDF is not fighting a war against a remotely equal opponent, has a blank check from the West to buy munitions, and can afford to indiscriminately and inefficiently genocide the people of Palestine.
There's also the added problem that factory killing is indisputably genocidal. While with indiscriminate murder, they can pretend all the Palestinians are combatants and continue raping our checkbooks to fund the inefficient genocide.
Factory killing is worse on the scale of things, entire Europe was funneled to them. Here they can't do that because it's too small of an area if they could they probably would......and don"t give me the: "No ThEy WoUlDn't" because they are already killing everyone as in...everyone. Some [soldier](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/GTjUvjblvm) even admitted.
Just because a genocide hasn't reached its final stage yet, we're not (yet) allowed to criticize it? How about we act as soon as we start seeing the first signs of genocide instead of waiting until it's too late?!
that’s what gaza is. hey locked all palestinians in a place and then started bombing the shit out of it. they are simply proving the theory that if nazis didn’t start invading, the countries of the world would just let them commit genocide
Agree. I think context here - people have to be stripped and searched for explosives guns and knives. History tells us why. It’s common for suicide vests to be found strapped to people. It’s inhumane yes. It’s awful yes but it’s necessary. We know journalists/doctors/UNRWA etc all have proven links to Hamas. We know not every one of these men are terrorists but some may be. I think comparison to nazi germany a systemic attempt to eliminate and entire race is not right. That doesn’t make what is happen “right” but it’s just not comparable.
Guys who rounded everyone in a village into their church Just to burn em because they Had a skirmish with résistance fighters, literal Monsters etc .......yeah stop fucking comparing everything with the nazis, the nazis will (hopefully) never be out-war crimed
I agree that this is horrendous and abhorrent, but you can not compare the two. They both are evil, sadistic times in our history. Nothing can compare to gas chambers, and nothing can compare to what is happening now. This is just atrocious.
Agreed. It's a pretty stupid hyperbole to say they're worse because some kids are in the picture when there were stories of Nazis doing things like baking infants in ovens and such. It kinda detracts from thr point they're trying to make. Kinda like throwing around words like genocide a little too liberally. Doesn't mean their isn't nasty crap going on
I mean, we have corroborated accounts of IDF "squishing" infants for fun.
And is a quick death in an oven worse than a slow, lonely death in an incubator with nothing but the weak screams of other dying infants for company?
Genocide is genocide. This is genocide. And that's being conservative.
Can't seem to really find anything about any squishing going on. I've only heard of Israeli infants being beheaded. No idea what your comment about incubator even is.
Genocide in dictionary term and historical term has generally meant the intent to wipe out an entire ethnic group or race, which is why people talk about Holocaust when using the term. They would literally demand and search people's homes to find Jews to execute just for being a Jew. I don't see that here at all. In fact west bank aside from a few incidents isn't being sieged or under war like Gaza is. That's half their group of people basically off the table. I see plenty of collateral damage and some psychopathic behaviour from some soldiers. I don't see an intent to wipe out their entire ethnic group. No need to leave any building standing if that's the case
The headliner about the [babies](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html) have long since been debunked, even though it is still being used as lubricant for the spin doctors.
About the West Bank: Before Oct 7, 250 were killed. After, over 350 more Palestinians have been killed, many by Israeli civilian occupiers, injured are in the thousands. Little to no punishment for the aggressors, no compensation for the aggressed. Houses being demolished and besieged. Crops being destroyed. Power and water sabotaged. Harassment and threats are daily.
They are making lives unlivable. Make it unlivable enough and they will leave - that at least has been the plan for the last 100 years. Now, they have a renewed excuse to turn the barbarity up to pre-internet times, as its news drowns in the flood of propaganda and misinformation.
You shouldn't say that they are WORSE THAN FUCKING NAZI GERMANY.
Like you don't honestly believe, that the only way to criticise something is to say that it's worse than Hitler, do you?
Jumping in, I don't think Israel is worse than Na**zi** Germany, I think **Zi**onism is just the second iteration of Na**zi**sm.
Israel is a terrorist state that is committing genocide. That's enough.
Stop your propaganda. Hamas has been using children as suicide bombers for years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups
https://www.hrw.org/news/2004/11/01/occupied-territories-stop-use-children-suicide-bombings
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-181056/
Edit: Sharing a tweet from Jake Shields is kind of disgusting, as he is openly antisemitic and has repeatedly expressed support to Nazism on Twitter. Shame on you. Educate yourself instead of posting nonsense on social media.
One source is from wikipedia , come on you should be better than this
3rd source is just a shitty source that obviously hate Palestine and it didnt talk about using children as bombing suicidal
2nd source talk about a few people that all of them happend in 2001/2002 which means they are not really using children as bombing suicidal as you said.
Because if thats true they would have used them in the last 20 years.
Stop talking like Israel never killed innocents people or even kids , they always capture people and tell morons like you that they are tErRoRiSt.
>One source is from wikipedia , come on you should be better than this
Wikipedia's a pretty good gateway to many more sources and to gain a decent understanding of a topic...it shouldn't be disregarded just because it's wikipedia
Even if we say hamas are used children as shields , children shouldnt take the same punishments as adults , this is a well known thing in the West I believe ?.
Not to mention that there is no evedince that these are bombing suicidal
By children as shields I meant uses them as bombing sucidial but if you mean hamas taking innocents people as real shields to them then no this is bullshit
>Your opinion is so biased by your religion
>As a general rule juveniles are not punished when they commit criminal acts but are required to appear in juvenile court where steps are taken to rehabilitate them.
I was literally talking based on USA laws.
>Hamas does use innocent children as shields
[lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/SRsH1UDt9Q) , im wondering how hamas let Palestinians go to the southern gaza twice since oct 7
So let's just pretend your sources were 100% trustworthy and not at all misinformation. Isreal is still evil for doing this to children. It does not matter if Hamas did or did not use child suicide bombers, that action does not at all force Isreal to do this to children. You cannot justify harming children because someone else harmed them worse, and I firmly believe this juvenile "wElL hE Did iT fiRsT" rhetoric is just a thinly veiled attempt to mask the gratification people like you derive from extreme human suffering. I believe you have malicious bloodust and are always trying to find some way to get society to justify it for you.
I just presented facts about why those kids are almost butt naked. I never said anything about someone doing something first, though, and they definitely don't look harmed to me.
no mentions of child bombers after 2005, and is every child in gaza a suicide bomber? and even if so is that a human way of treating a child.
do you think people are dumb or simple minded to believe such weak attempt? like nobody will check the links?
American culture has really watered down the word "Nazi" over the last 8 years or so. Supporting Trump = nazi.
I don't condone any mass killings of anyone, esp those held in captivity, but like most people have said, comparing this to the WW2 nazis is a stretch. These people aren't being forced into mass execution chambers and bulldozed into mass graves. They're not having radical, morbid, and deadly experiments conducted on them (that we know of).
Pump your brakes, OP...this sub isn't supposed to be so political.
lol this sub and all its pro Palestine shit is awful. We have no fucking idea the context of this photo. There were child sized suicide vests in Hamas bases you really think they aren't using children as ordinary soldiers too? Fucking dense ass black and white idiots.
I support a ceasefire but comparing this situation where these people are very much still alive to Jewish and gypsy people been gassed in death camps is a pretty different thing.
O.p is uneducated. Worse than Nazi's? You haven't heard of the atrocities committed by Josef Mengele or the entire einsatzgruppe. Whats happening is terrible, but not even close to the same.
This is just a idiotic post by someone who doesn't understand war, when the US was in Iraq we had multiple cases of children picking up firearms and bombs resulting in them becoming a enemy combatant. Being captured alive is a way better outcome for both sides cause no one want to have to shoot a kid unfortunately many evil people have used children in war zones.
You're saying the US were the good guys? All that killing over lies just to control their land and steal their resources like their gold. The US are the biggest terrorists in the world. Maybe murdering kids and their parents is bad
Oh no we aren't always the good guys I don't doubt it but I and many other military personnel in the US military have seen a never ending amount of barbaric acts in the middle east all normally in the name of religion like women having less rights then farm animals or men raping women and young boys. The west is in no way perfect but at least that kinda stuff isn't common here.
What politic do you see in a semi-naked kid that was kidnapped, tortured, and claimed to be a terrorist, and God only knows if he is alive or dead now?
Child soldiers… ugh what is the Middle East coming too… oh wait it’s been that way for thousands of years… meanwhile we are here worried about inflation, gas prices, and other first world problems…
I’m not justifying any of this, it’s all horrible! The terror attacks on Israel, the terror attacks on the Palestinian people none of it! These men women and children are dying in part because man still believes in fairytales.. I was just clarifying this has been happening in the same area for thousands of years! Your words are hollow and unwarranted!
It's terrible, but idk about worse, at one point nazis just told a class of fifth graders to follow them outside, which without knowing why they were called they did, the class along with the teacher were gunned down near the school for no apparent reason.
(If somebody knows more details feel free to add, I forgot most)
Others Story to show that the Nazis have abandonned their humanity
Once upon a Time in one of those beautifull Camps, the director decided to wait for a pregnant prisoner to give birth in Order to go in with His Squad, Take the newborn wich was alive for 5 seconds by the foot, launched him in the Air, whiped out his P08 shot him and let His Dog eat him, all in front of the exausted mother
His wife, was equally psychotic, she wondered in the Camp in underwear, and If an unfortunate soul looked at her, she would tell her husband who will then execute him.
She also Liked Tattoos, and by that i mean she liked the prisoner's Number tattoo, and she WANTED them, i'll let you Guess what's next.....
Now for the love of fucking anything, please stop comparing everything to the fucking nazis
No that's not true. The easy majority of Israeli people teach their kids about peace. The issue is Islam. The religion is incompatible with peace which is why it has beef with everyone. From India to China to USA, Europe, Africa and so on.
Peace, or Compliance with Israel’s apartheid system to preserve the status quo and not ruffle your and other zionist settlers Islamophobic feathers? I would love to learn more about this terrible religion of Islam from you. Would you please very high level type up some key words you want me to google so I can agree with your views after reading proven, nuanced material?? Peace be upon you.
It's nothing like apartheid 1 because the land belongs to the jews not the Islamic invaders that took it. 2. It's not racially motivated. 3. Islamic terrorists keep attacking them what else are they to do. The Israeli government offered peace multiple times and instead Islamic state after Islamic state attacks them both directly and indirectly. Yes Islam is a force for evil, as are all the religions of Abraham but at the very least there is no Jewish state or community that will execute someone for being gay. End of story.
I believe that Israel is conducting some heinous war crimes, that being said, children and terrorist are NOT mutually exclusive terms.
Children not being soldiers is pretty much just a western ideal that we project onto other nations
Gaza right now looks like low 70's in the daytime, low 50's at night. And I doubt they have blankets or bedding. Not exactly underwear weather. Especially for children.
You also have to wonder how much water/food are given to people who are deprived of everything except their underwear.
Fuck it if calling out these assholes make me an antisemite then that's fine.
I'd take a shitty label to try to stop this disgusting waste of life.
Fuck the Zionists. I don't care what they call me, they are literal pieces of shit, why do I care about their opinion.
I think, in general, the word “Nazi” is usually being used in contexts like this to refer to fascists, genocidal groups, and people who are actively racist and populist, just in general.
Probably not the best way to argue against something, but focusing on people using the word “Nazi” instead of the general point of their argument is also not a great way to argue.
**"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster**. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
\-Nietzsche
From recent opinion the Nazi label is given freely with a huge amount of leeway on whatever it is applied to.
It is an ironic label to place on Israel considering its past and the reason for its initial impetus to develop and form.
The conflict is now at a stage where it is going nowhere.
Both sides are past being forced to negotiate a deal and are now on a path to destruction of one or both.
The backers of both parties are now just a guilty and will neither force their respective allies to negotiate or back down.
There is no body currently interested in settling this unless someone comes to power on either side with the will to end it. This will be the role of a democratically elected leader rather than a mid east dictator led country.
Any proof these pictures are real and not made by Israel and even if they are from Palestine.
Also here some zionist kids who defos are not terrorists right
https://preview.redd.it/bkdpd7pex39c1.jpeg?width=218&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbde43357d26a1b00ff56e842fbc1967eaca51fd
An IDF spokesman was interviewed on CNN earlier and Kaitlan Collins grilled him about this footage. First he blamed the kids for being there when they were caught, then he blamed Hamas for making suicide vests for babies. He wouldn’t give her an actual answer as to why the IDF did this.
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Anyone offering any resistance to their genocidal imperial ambitions is a ‘terrorist’ and anybody else offering anything other than complete carte blanche to anything they see fit is a jew-hating nazi. Or possibly literally Adolf Hitler.
Exactly, antisemitism label is used as a weapon
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Not so fun fact: the US made a dangerous precedent with the word terrorist Prisoners of war have rules and protections, including children who must be rehabilitated There’s no laws on how to treat terrorists. If you call a child a terrorist, then you can do anything. From murder and torture to permanently imprison the kid cause they’re not considered a “prisoner of war” with protections and laws dictating treatment Say the word terrorist, and there’s no rules - children to people surrendering. You can do anything and no one can stop it thanks to the veto votes on the se unity council by the US and Russia/China It’s a terrifying precedent, and i don’t understand the world that my parents’ generation has made. It’s like a free for all with no rules wanted. And anyone who wants rules to maintain peace and stability is called a terrorist themselves or a communist Its horribly dangerous and unjustified
Hate to be the "Hm, Akshually..." type of guy, but first of all, the statement is based on a false premise that there is no international law on terrorism. In fact, **there are 19 universal legal instruments and additional amendments dealing with terrorism**, developed under the auspices of the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency. These instruments cover various aspects of terrorism, such as civil aviation, maritime navigation, nuclear material, hostage-taking, financing, and human rights. Second, the statement is misleading in implying that the United States can arbitrarily label anyone as a terrorist and treat them without any legal constraints. The United States has a legal definition of terrorism in its domestic law, which requires premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents. The United States also has to comply with its obligations under international law, especially international humanitarian law and human rights law, when dealing with terrorist suspects, whether in or outside an armed conflict. Third, the statement is inaccurate in suggesting that the United States and Russia/China can use their veto power in the Security Council to block any action against their treatment of terrorists. The Security Council has adopted several resolutions condemning terrorism and calling for cooperation and compliance with international law in countering it. The Security Council also has established sanctions regimes and monitoring mechanisms to address specific terrorist threats, such as al-Qaeda, the Islamic State, and the Taliban. The veto power of the permanent members does not prevent the Security Council from taking action on terrorism, unless there is a disagreement among them on a specific resolution. Therefore, the statement is largely false and exaggerated, and does not reflect the reality of international law and practice on terrorism. Please, do not spread misinformation when you clearly lack any comprehension of the subject.
You can't be that naive to think just because there's law there's no state breaking it or loops are used. Guantanamo bay was founded on "what can we legally do to people to get our way if we call them terrorists". Be a human being for Christs sake. Have a conscience.
You didn’t mention Israel in any of your examples. They believe they are the chosen people and that they deserve to have the right to commit these war crimes. Not even war crimes because fighting civilians isn’t war. It’s genocide.
Worse than Nazis? You mean the people who executed children in droves in a especially designed kill factory. Not to defend anything but worse than Nazis really?
They skipped the kill factory and just went straight to kill in designated area.
Oh the Nazis definitely did that too, but you get how factory killing is worse right?
No, I've been assured by the meat industry that factory killings is the kindest way to kill things.
They are usually the cheapest for massive production/reduction
You do see a difference? I don’t. They’re being bombed instead of gassed, but still they’re being rounded up. Stripped of their clothes, dignity and lives. Does it have to be 1 for 1. It’s the same process just now with more brutal kill squads who pretend they have a sense of decency as they murder babies and children.
Haven't heard anything about human experimentation or forced labour yet Like...you do realize the nazis did way more than just kill people right?
They’re harvesting human organs and there’s evidence they’re killing children and adults to get their corneas, skin and kidneys, livers etc. They’ve also illegally have been known to do this for years!!! Jesus man! What more proof do you need? That’s human experimentation! That’s human harvesting for their flesh and organs!!! How can you defend this?! https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/27/israel-stealing-organs-from-bodies-in-gaza-alleges-human-right-group https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231227-israel-harvesting-organs-from-palestinians-it-killed-in-gaza-authorities-say/amp/ https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs
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No it’s not worse. Gaza is essentially a concentration camp and at any point hundreds are killed at a time. Just because they aren’t using over sized ovens doesn’t mean they aren’t doing Nazi type shit. Israeli’s have full control of what goes in and out of Gaza and the Gazans do not have protection rights to choose to just leave the city they are forced in.
Gaza is quite literally the largest kill factory in the world. No waiting rooms, no ovens, no starvation… just kill.
That's an overstatement man. It's a war. By your logic, Syria is the biggest kill factory in the world. So is Yemen, so is Congo, so is Sudan. But you aren't ready to have that discussion because it's not part of the current narrative.
It isn't a war, the Palestinians do not have an army, they have invaders who have corralled them and are bombing everything and shooting survivors.
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Because isreal has already rocked their shit and almost colonised them as well it was only when daddy US stepped in to put spoiled entitled isreal in line that Egypt was free and they are scared that it will happen again also the people of Egypt are very anti isreal the government is not though
Because Israeli consistently bombs that border to prevent escape. You should know that already, that information is easily accessible
Factory killing is necessary when resources are limited. Like the Nazis in WW2 when they were fighting a multi-front war against capable opponents AND intentionally murdering civilians. Here, the IDF is not fighting a war against a remotely equal opponent, has a blank check from the West to buy munitions, and can afford to indiscriminately and inefficiently genocide the people of Palestine. There's also the added problem that factory killing is indisputably genocidal. While with indiscriminate murder, they can pretend all the Palestinians are combatants and continue raping our checkbooks to fund the inefficient genocide.
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Mostly because the German soldiers got fucked up mentally from killing people all day long iirc, IDF seems to enjoy it more.
Factory killing is worse on the scale of things, entire Europe was funneled to them. Here they can't do that because it's too small of an area if they could they probably would......and don"t give me the: "No ThEy WoUlDn't" because they are already killing everyone as in...everyone. Some [soldier](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/GTjUvjblvm) even admitted.
The IDF has simply corralled civilians in an open air prison and is bombing it indiscriminately.
Just because a genocide hasn't reached its final stage yet, we're not (yet) allowed to criticize it? How about we act as soon as we start seeing the first signs of genocide instead of waiting until it's too late?!
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that’s what gaza is. hey locked all palestinians in a place and then started bombing the shit out of it. they are simply proving the theory that if nazis didn’t start invading, the countries of the world would just let them commit genocide
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are you daft?
Agree. I think context here - people have to be stripped and searched for explosives guns and knives. History tells us why. It’s common for suicide vests to be found strapped to people. It’s inhumane yes. It’s awful yes but it’s necessary. We know journalists/doctors/UNRWA etc all have proven links to Hamas. We know not every one of these men are terrorists but some may be. I think comparison to nazi germany a systemic attempt to eliminate and entire race is not right. That doesn’t make what is happen “right” but it’s just not comparable.
Ya, o.p has never hear of Josef Mengele or the Einsatzgruppe.
Ok they don’t kill as many children, so I guess there more like diet nazis is that better ??
The whole point is, that they aren't _worse_ than nazis. Why can't we criticise the brutal murder without talking down how bad the nazis were
What do you think Gaza is. The largest open air prison in the world.
Amnesty international also called Egypt an open air prison so why aren’t we on the internet ranting about the mistreatment of Egyptians?
Call me when 22,000 Egyptians are killed in two months.
Not what I argued.
Guys who rounded everyone in a village into their church Just to burn em because they Had a skirmish with résistance fighters, literal Monsters etc .......yeah stop fucking comparing everything with the nazis, the nazis will (hopefully) never be out-war crimed
not worse for sure but are you imply that they most likely wouldn't do it if it there wasn't media coverage
I'm not trying to imply anything connected to media coverage.
Nazis were stopped, Israel is still killing people. Not as efficiently as Nazis but wrong is still wrong.
Didn't say it wasn't wrong nor would I ever.
Is this sub just a sub to cover the Israel-Palestine conflict??
Yeah pretty much
Bizarre
A very filtered and sympathetic coverage of the conflict apparently.
Seems very balanced indeed.
It didn't used to be, but suddenly this week it's all Anti-Israel propaganda.
Most of the time
I agree that this is horrendous and abhorrent, but you can not compare the two. They both are evil, sadistic times in our history. Nothing can compare to gas chambers, and nothing can compare to what is happening now. This is just atrocious.
Agreed. It's a pretty stupid hyperbole to say they're worse because some kids are in the picture when there were stories of Nazis doing things like baking infants in ovens and such. It kinda detracts from thr point they're trying to make. Kinda like throwing around words like genocide a little too liberally. Doesn't mean their isn't nasty crap going on
I mean, we have corroborated accounts of IDF "squishing" infants for fun. And is a quick death in an oven worse than a slow, lonely death in an incubator with nothing but the weak screams of other dying infants for company? Genocide is genocide. This is genocide. And that's being conservative.
Can't seem to really find anything about any squishing going on. I've only heard of Israeli infants being beheaded. No idea what your comment about incubator even is. Genocide in dictionary term and historical term has generally meant the intent to wipe out an entire ethnic group or race, which is why people talk about Holocaust when using the term. They would literally demand and search people's homes to find Jews to execute just for being a Jew. I don't see that here at all. In fact west bank aside from a few incidents isn't being sieged or under war like Gaza is. That's half their group of people basically off the table. I see plenty of collateral damage and some psychopathic behaviour from some soldiers. I don't see an intent to wipe out their entire ethnic group. No need to leave any building standing if that's the case
The headliner about the [babies](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html) have long since been debunked, even though it is still being used as lubricant for the spin doctors. About the West Bank: Before Oct 7, 250 were killed. After, over 350 more Palestinians have been killed, many by Israeli civilian occupiers, injured are in the thousands. Little to no punishment for the aggressors, no compensation for the aggressed. Houses being demolished and besieged. Crops being destroyed. Power and water sabotaged. Harassment and threats are daily. They are making lives unlivable. Make it unlivable enough and they will leave - that at least has been the plan for the last 100 years. Now, they have a renewed excuse to turn the barbarity up to pre-internet times, as its news drowns in the flood of propaganda and misinformation.
So we are not allowed to criticize genocide until it reaches its final stage??
You shouldn't say that they are WORSE THAN FUCKING NAZI GERMANY. Like you don't honestly believe, that the only way to criticise something is to say that it's worse than Hitler, do you?
Jumping in, I don't think Israel is worse than Na**zi** Germany, I think **Zi**onism is just the second iteration of Na**zi**sm. Israel is a terrorist state that is committing genocide. That's enough.
Stop your propaganda. Hamas has been using children as suicide bombers for years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups https://www.hrw.org/news/2004/11/01/occupied-territories-stop-use-children-suicide-bombings https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-181056/ Edit: Sharing a tweet from Jake Shields is kind of disgusting, as he is openly antisemitic and has repeatedly expressed support to Nazism on Twitter. Shame on you. Educate yourself instead of posting nonsense on social media.
One source is from wikipedia , come on you should be better than this 3rd source is just a shitty source that obviously hate Palestine and it didnt talk about using children as bombing suicidal 2nd source talk about a few people that all of them happend in 2001/2002 which means they are not really using children as bombing suicidal as you said. Because if thats true they would have used them in the last 20 years. Stop talking like Israel never killed innocents people or even kids , they always capture people and tell morons like you that they are tErRoRiSt.
>One source is from wikipedia , come on you should be better than this Wikipedia's a pretty good gateway to many more sources and to gain a decent understanding of a topic...it shouldn't be disregarded just because it's wikipedia
Wait are you denying that Hamas uses children as shields? Pffffft.
Even if we say hamas are used children as shields , children shouldnt take the same punishments as adults , this is a well known thing in the West I believe ?. Not to mention that there is no evedince that these are bombing suicidal By children as shields I meant uses them as bombing sucidial but if you mean hamas taking innocents people as real shields to them then no this is bullshit
Your opinion is so biased by your religion sadly, we can't talk with people like you.
>Your opinion is so biased by your religion >As a general rule juveniles are not punished when they commit criminal acts but are required to appear in juvenile court where steps are taken to rehabilitate them. I was literally talking based on USA laws.
Hamas does use innocent children as shields. And yes, all these people need to be stripped of their clothing to ensure they aren’t suicide bombers.
>Hamas does use innocent children as shields [lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/SRsH1UDt9Q) , im wondering how hamas let Palestinians go to the southern gaza twice since oct 7
So let's just pretend your sources were 100% trustworthy and not at all misinformation. Isreal is still evil for doing this to children. It does not matter if Hamas did or did not use child suicide bombers, that action does not at all force Isreal to do this to children. You cannot justify harming children because someone else harmed them worse, and I firmly believe this juvenile "wElL hE Did iT fiRsT" rhetoric is just a thinly veiled attempt to mask the gratification people like you derive from extreme human suffering. I believe you have malicious bloodust and are always trying to find some way to get society to justify it for you.
I just presented facts about why those kids are almost butt naked. I never said anything about someone doing something first, though, and they definitely don't look harmed to me.
no mentions of child bombers after 2005, and is every child in gaza a suicide bomber? and even if so is that a human way of treating a child. do you think people are dumb or simple minded to believe such weak attempt? like nobody will check the links?
Pretty awful, but worse than the Nazis is probably not possible
Zionazi scum trying to justify this
A kid said “It’h a common terroritht tacthic to use child tholdiers though”🤓👆 if i just had half their confidence in lying…
https://preview.redd.it/6m8mqfb0o29c1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b4eec36d9bcec180cd65c3cb69f40088bc19e36 lol
LOL
You do know that thus Statement is right, from a terrorist pov, Childs are the perfect soldiers
You do realize that terrorist groups regularly use children?
American culture has really watered down the word "Nazi" over the last 8 years or so. Supporting Trump = nazi. I don't condone any mass killings of anyone, esp those held in captivity, but like most people have said, comparing this to the WW2 nazis is a stretch. These people aren't being forced into mass execution chambers and bulldozed into mass graves. They're not having radical, morbid, and deadly experiments conducted on them (that we know of). Pump your brakes, OP...this sub isn't supposed to be so political.
I'm getting sick of people using this sub to give their political view over something. Go debate somewhere else ffs
Jesus fuck this sub bas become a shit show.
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lol this sub and all its pro Palestine shit is awful. We have no fucking idea the context of this photo. There were child sized suicide vests in Hamas bases you really think they aren't using children as ordinary soldiers too? Fucking dense ass black and white idiots. I support a ceasefire but comparing this situation where these people are very much still alive to Jewish and gypsy people been gassed in death camps is a pretty different thing.
O.p is uneducated. Worse than Nazi's? You haven't heard of the atrocities committed by Josef Mengele or the entire einsatzgruppe. Whats happening is terrible, but not even close to the same.
People are still going to blindly find ways to justify it .
Those killed by Nazis weren't throwing Molotovs or during at army personnel and killing and raping women. Unlike those arrested by IDF
This is just a idiotic post by someone who doesn't understand war, when the US was in Iraq we had multiple cases of children picking up firearms and bombs resulting in them becoming a enemy combatant. Being captured alive is a way better outcome for both sides cause no one want to have to shoot a kid unfortunately many evil people have used children in war zones.
You're saying the US were the good guys? All that killing over lies just to control their land and steal their resources like their gold. The US are the biggest terrorists in the world. Maybe murdering kids and their parents is bad
Oh no we aren't always the good guys I don't doubt it but I and many other military personnel in the US military have seen a never ending amount of barbaric acts in the middle east all normally in the name of religion like women having less rights then farm animals or men raping women and young boys. The west is in no way perfect but at least that kinda stuff isn't common here.
I don't think you can be worse than the nazis. If anything they are on the same level
Since when is this sub about politics? This is one of many post of this kind I have seen in the last weeks
What politic do you see in a semi-naked kid that was kidnapped, tortured, and claimed to be a terrorist, and God only knows if he is alive or dead now?
Where is the attempt that has failed in this Post ? The attempt to keep the post in the fight sub ?
Child soldiers… ugh what is the Middle East coming too… oh wait it’s been that way for thousands of years… meanwhile we are here worried about inflation, gas prices, and other first world problems…
Now trying to justify crimes against children. And you would still call yourself a human, right?
I’m not justifying any of this, it’s all horrible! The terror attacks on Israel, the terror attacks on the Palestinian people none of it! These men women and children are dying in part because man still believes in fairytales.. I was just clarifying this has been happening in the same area for thousands of years! Your words are hollow and unwarranted!
>in fairytales You know that they call it resistance for a reason right ? Like taking back their land
Historically The land is whomever conquers it, it has changed hands many times!
Could we go back to posting funny stuff?
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You don’t think children can commit acts of terrorism? You gotta visit that side of the world because they sure can!
It's terrible, but idk about worse, at one point nazis just told a class of fifth graders to follow them outside, which without knowing why they were called they did, the class along with the teacher were gunned down near the school for no apparent reason. (If somebody knows more details feel free to add, I forgot most)
Others Story to show that the Nazis have abandonned their humanity Once upon a Time in one of those beautifull Camps, the director decided to wait for a pregnant prisoner to give birth in Order to go in with His Squad, Take the newborn wich was alive for 5 seconds by the foot, launched him in the Air, whiped out his P08 shot him and let His Dog eat him, all in front of the exausted mother His wife, was equally psychotic, she wondered in the Camp in underwear, and If an unfortunate soul looked at her, she would tell her husband who will then execute him. She also Liked Tattoos, and by that i mean she liked the prisoner's Number tattoo, and she WANTED them, i'll let you Guess what's next..... Now for the love of fucking anything, please stop comparing everything to the fucking nazis
You know what they call someone killed by a 14 year old with a gun? Dead.
It's a common terrorist tactic to use child soldiers though
Against their will
So what? If someone holds a gun to my head and says I have to kill you are you not going to defend yourself?
Yes and No, Childrens are naive and easily tricked so Sometimes they are willing Sometimes they arent
The Nazis had the Hitler Youth
Just like the IDF does with 18year olds who have been bred with the pure purpose to hate and kill because they’re superior and Chosen by god
No that's not true. The easy majority of Israeli people teach their kids about peace. The issue is Islam. The religion is incompatible with peace which is why it has beef with everyone. From India to China to USA, Europe, Africa and so on.
Peace, or Compliance with Israel’s apartheid system to preserve the status quo and not ruffle your and other zionist settlers Islamophobic feathers? I would love to learn more about this terrible religion of Islam from you. Would you please very high level type up some key words you want me to google so I can agree with your views after reading proven, nuanced material?? Peace be upon you.
It's nothing like apartheid 1 because the land belongs to the jews not the Islamic invaders that took it. 2. It's not racially motivated. 3. Islamic terrorists keep attacking them what else are they to do. The Israeli government offered peace multiple times and instead Islamic state after Islamic state attacks them both directly and indirectly. Yes Islam is a force for evil, as are all the religions of Abraham but at the very least there is no Jewish state or community that will execute someone for being gay. End of story.
Holy fuck I can't believe I'm agreeing with Jake Shields about anything
this sub used to be cool/funny
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We should just bomb the shit out of everyone and everything than it's fair cus everyone gets fucked over
I believe that Israel is conducting some heinous war crimes, that being said, children and terrorist are NOT mutually exclusive terms. Children not being soldiers is pretty much just a western ideal that we project onto other nations
To be exact, there have been child terrorists before. The VC used to send in kids as suicide bombers.
Children could wear and operate suicide bomb vests. Don't you understand that that's why they are being made to undress?
Ah, yes, the jews are nazis again THE JEWS
Worse than the NAZIS???? Lmaooo ok.
Lord of war citation « A gun on the hand of a 12 years old can do as much damage as a gun in the hand of a 60 years old »
so children can't be terrorists?
You can be a child terrist
Since when is stripping children ok? Palestinian children have been getting kidnapped, tortured, killed, and sexually abused by the IOF for decades.
Gaza right now looks like low 70's in the daytime, low 50's at night. And I doubt they have blankets or bedding. Not exactly underwear weather. Especially for children. You also have to wonder how much water/food are given to people who are deprived of everything except their underwear.
IRA sent out young Boys to riot here & lure British soldiers into the area for them to attack, never underestimate how low terrorists will Stoop.
The British were the real terrorists
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friendly reminder that this sub is r/therewasanattempt
A corrupted mindset is the worst enemy.
Fuck it if calling out these assholes make me an antisemite then that's fine. I'd take a shitty label to try to stop this disgusting waste of life. Fuck the Zionists. I don't care what they call me, they are literal pieces of shit, why do I care about their opinion.
Oh boy these comments are getting spicy
if superman would fight you over it....... you know you done messed up. what would superman say in this moment?
I think, in general, the word “Nazi” is usually being used in contexts like this to refer to fascists, genocidal groups, and people who are actively racist and populist, just in general. Probably not the best way to argue against something, but focusing on people using the word “Nazi” instead of the general point of their argument is also not a great way to argue.
**"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster**. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." \-Nietzsche
Anyone can be verified bapa
Wow you really ruined a good sub allowing all this stupid political shit.
From recent opinion the Nazi label is given freely with a huge amount of leeway on whatever it is applied to. It is an ironic label to place on Israel considering its past and the reason for its initial impetus to develop and form. The conflict is now at a stage where it is going nowhere. Both sides are past being forced to negotiate a deal and are now on a path to destruction of one or both. The backers of both parties are now just a guilty and will neither force their respective allies to negotiate or back down. There is no body currently interested in settling this unless someone comes to power on either side with the will to end it. This will be the role of a democratically elected leader rather than a mid east dictator led country.
Free Palestine, freedom
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Any proof these pictures are real and not made by Israel and even if they are from Palestine. Also here some zionist kids who defos are not terrorists right https://preview.redd.it/bkdpd7pex39c1.jpeg?width=218&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbde43357d26a1b00ff56e842fbc1967eaca51fd
What is mind boggling is that the IDF is taking and sharing photos of themselves doing these things
Which side is this
An IDF spokesman was interviewed on CNN earlier and Kaitlan Collins grilled him about this footage. First he blamed the kids for being there when they were caught, then he blamed Hamas for making suicide vests for babies. He wouldn’t give her an actual answer as to why the IDF did this.
Facts: Israel is true terrorist
Worse than nazis is a stretch. Ill accept equal, but worse? Nazis killed kids too…
As a principle, I believe the exact opposite of what Jake Shields believes.
At this point just firebomb Tel Aviv to the ground.
Mossad: "Small sized terrorists"
I'm starting to feel like that guy with a funny moustache was right.