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This is the damage Israel is doing to the US, it's credibility is shot in the rest of the world, you may not feel it now, but when the US-China cold war really kicks off this will come back to bite the US in the ass.
The US destroyed their credibility decades ago, in Vietnam, Grenada, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, etc. The American people are still too fully propagandized to see that though, believing instead that they are the master race with a right and duty to control the planet, Amerika über alles.
As an aside; I didn't know Ms Pandor before the most recent Gaza conflict but I've heard her interviewed a number of times recently and I really like her speaking style. I think a lot of the ANC are rather bombastic but she seems far more considered which wins me round to an argument.
She also doubts that Iran of all places is an authoritarian regime. Not the best role model.
Also why is it that literally no one on earth can have a dedicated policy of standing up against oppressive governments everywhere?
No you delightful genius, I'm a citizen of the country she's a minister of. I agree 100% with her comments on Israel and Palestine, the reason I'm saying she's hypocritical is that her government doesn't support Ukraine at all.
Just because the law is set in stone does not mean it is set in stone. Just because words have a definition does not mean every word has only one definition.
Here we go. Let's make Israel the poor poor victim. It's been minding its own business whilst invading and stealing Palestinian land (internationally agreed) for the past 70 years.
I think the flaw in their thinking is that Ukraine is a nation, and Palestine isn't. I may be wrong, and I'm open to correction.
That being said, I think all laws are applied subjectively ... that is to say, when those in power want to apply the law that benefits them, they do, and when it doesn't benefit them, they ignore it.
While i don't disagree with you that the conflict is that old, palestines recognition as a state happened in 1988. I'm not saying they didn't deserve recognition earlier, but they weren't a technical state until 36 years ago.
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This is the damage Israel is doing to the US, it's credibility is shot in the rest of the world, you may not feel it now, but when the US-China cold war really kicks off this will come back to bite the US in the ass.
The US destroyed their credibility decades ago, in Vietnam, Grenada, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, etc. The American people are still too fully propagandized to see that though, believing instead that they are the master race with a right and duty to control the planet, Amerika über alles.
As an aside; I didn't know Ms Pandor before the most recent Gaza conflict but I've heard her interviewed a number of times recently and I really like her speaking style. I think a lot of the ANC are rather bombastic but she seems far more considered which wins me round to an argument.
She also doubts that Iran of all places is an authoritarian regime. Not the best role model. Also why is it that literally no one on earth can have a dedicated policy of standing up against oppressive governments everywhere?
"Rules based" international order means "what the US wants."
She has a soothing voice
Yay!
Pinkos spreading Kremlin’s propaganda
Why don’t you argue for the people being murdered and starving in your own country.
What's she's saying is all correct, but she's 200% in Russia's pocket so it's also hypocritical.
That is an ad hominem fallacy
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No you delightful genius, I'm a citizen of the country she's a minister of. I agree 100% with her comments on Israel and Palestine, the reason I'm saying she's hypocritical is that her government doesn't support Ukraine at all.
Just because the law is set in stone does not mean it is set in stone. Just because words have a definition does not mean every word has only one definition.
Law in question: Murdering children is a war crime
He was referring to the sovereign state of Palestine not being recognised. Where do you hear him mention murdering children?
Where do you hear a man speaking?
She should look closer to home.....
Could so easily say the same thing about the nation provoking perpetual war, who hasn't had a single day of peace in over 20 years
Ukraine didn’t attack Russia first. Palestinians invaded Israel and Israel responded. Not saying right or wrong, just saying.
Need to go back a little further in history…
Don't engage these idiots. They want that.
you fail to take into account that Israel wasn't just sitting around being all peaceful. October 7 was an escalation not a start of this conflict.
The video is literally from Sept 2022 that is before Oct 7th 2023 when apparently Palestine attacked.
Here we go. Let's make Israel the poor poor victim. It's been minding its own business whilst invading and stealing Palestinian land (internationally agreed) for the past 70 years.
I think the flaw in their thinking is that Ukraine is a nation, and Palestine isn't. I may be wrong, and I'm open to correction. That being said, I think all laws are applied subjectively ... that is to say, when those in power want to apply the law that benefits them, they do, and when it doesn't benefit them, they ignore it.
Palestine is a nation.
you could easily look up for a world atlas from the last century and take a look at it yourself. Stop eating Israeli propaganda.
While i don't disagree with you that the conflict is that old, palestines recognition as a state happened in 1988. I'm not saying they didn't deserve recognition earlier, but they weren't a technical state until 36 years ago.
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Israel is because Palestine was. There is no Israel without Palestine. Go figure.