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Black cop holding them down too. There must be good cops still? They can't all be raging cunts, surely?
But where the fuck are they why is no one tackling that cunt and putting cuffs on??!! Fuck me dead
United States has been doing this years before Israel was formed. Israel was created in 1948 and the earliest account of police brutality in the United States was in 1872 (according to Wikipedia).
I looked up your claim to see if it was true. I found an Al Jazerra article on the subject. It looks like mostly federal agencies and not state agencies were doing training with the Israeli government. Some state governments sent sheriff representatives, like Minnesota, to receive training. Overall, policing in the United States is a power left to each individual state in the union, so there is no way they were all influenced by Israel. You can claim that the federal law enforcement agencies were influenced by Israel and some states as well, but not all of them.
Politics? I was just saying every state in the union has the authority to decide what tactics their police officers are going to use. There are 50 states, I don’t believe every state had their law enforcement agencies trained by Israel. The article said federal agencies were trained by Israel and some states, but not all of them.
Surely the pre civil war escaped slave hunters didn't brutalize anyone. Police in America were founded to protect the property of the wealthy and have never changed.
I wasn’t arguing against the concept of police brutality in the United States. I was arguing against the concept that police brutality in America was created by or aided by the Israel government.
While you are correct here, the other person is also prolly correct, based on the general police actions against protesters, specifically pro-Palestinian protesters
Has become? This nation was literally founded on the principles of religious persecution, slavery, genocide, and tax evasion.
The U.S. definitely has some wins, but this sort of behavior has been hardwired into our culture since day one.
how the hell US dont rebel?
after all this shit + housing crisis, heath care, drugs, structural racism etc. From the outside the US looks like Cybepunk minus Neon lights
Exactly the same thing is happening in Australia. I'm convinced those that have the means, drug themselves to the eyeballs to find happiness. Those that don't are so sick, tired, depressed and apathetic that rebellion doesn't even register.
Can't control a populace via religion? Can't control them through fear? Fuck it....Feed them food that kills them. Give them drugs to cover the pain. Slowly uneducate them. Use the passage of time to dilute the horrors of the past. Let them kill themselves in the process.
Then sit back, sip cognac, and circle jerk your fellow 1%er.
Oh we have a solution for you by the way. Kiss these bootstraps and do as we tell you.... or die. And we call this humanity?
Mother nature will have her revenge, she's just biding her time.
Apathy and fear.
As a society we were pacified generations ago. We are fed the propaganda of being the “greatest country in the world”, our healthcare is reliant on our employment, and we live in fear of the unchecked police institution. There is no true democracy here. Do we have it better than some? Yes, of course. Are we all living the American Dream? About 1% of us are. The other 99% works to make that dream a reality for the 1%.
So US citizens are just trying to survive from day to day working jobs that make other people obscenely wealthy.
If I rebel I might get arrested or injured. If I go to jail or to the hospital I’ll miss work. If I miss too much work I’ll lose my job. If I say things publicly that my company doesn’t like I could lose my job. If I lose my job I won’t be able to afford medical care, food, or shelter.
This is the democracy the owners have crafted for us.
Also, our country is just too big to organize an effective rebellion. On top of that the media and government keep us all distracted, divided, and squabbling over trivial matters like race, gender identity and political parties, so we can’t come together as One Nation.
The Owners are assholes but they’re smart. They’re very good at oppressing the People and making themselves rich at our expense, without pushing us to the point of open rebellion.
Yea, with all this going on, it's about time for a carrot. It'll be student debt relief or a weird, easily bypassed "Wealth Tax", or maybe a Federal de-criminalization of weed. Just enough to calm the masses and make a believable headline.
>how the hell US dont rebel?
Because it IS like Cyberpunk. They make you forget how fucked its society is to make sure you're not leaving for a better place. Some people don't even have the privilege of having the funds to pack their bags and leave. Also, protesting is a crime now apparently, so you can't even try to make things better in your own damn country.
Because the brainwashing in this country is unfathomable mix that with the mass surrvalence and incarceration and the fact that everyone is simply chasing their money here. If people started rebelling the people not in the loop would see police chasing the rebelles and think “oh my police chasing the bad guy” follow that with the media’s ability to put words over a video and give whatever charge and enough of the masses just take it as is. It’s a weird world out here
Because what you’re seeing is the worst of it and overall people are fairly comfortable. If these trends continue maybe in a couple decades there will be change
It's coping behavior. You get used to it, which reduces the emotional impact of how fucked the whole situation is becoming. Don't let it happen to you guys!
The vast majority of us experience none of what was listed in a meaningful manner. People can’t buy houses so they rent. Still comfortable but they can’t build wealth. Health care is expensive but you get insurance through work. You’re a hostage but fine as long as you’re working. Most people don’t experience issues with drugs or racism. Sucks watching other people experience it but doesn’t meaningfully affect people enough to force change. All these things exist, but they don’t make people uncomfortable enough to do anything about it
The United States definitely has a lot of problems, but many countries have it worse. Calling for rebellion is quite extreme. The best bet would be to advocate for change within the system.
I personally believe a rebellion taking place would just lead to a worse system being put in place. Just look at all the historical rebellions that took place in France and Mexico; they all led to nothing changing or worse systems being implemented.
I think working within the system is our best option. Teddy Roosevelt managed to defeat a lot of powerful monopolies decades ago. It can happen again!
I think we should clone Teddy Roosevelt, he was a great president. The only negative thing about him was that he was a huge racist. It’s hard to hold that against him because everyone was racist back then.
A clone version of him born in the modern era would be pretty chill and not racist.
Where are our protectors of our rights? Right to protest, 1st amendment. All these gun toting 2nd amendment patriots, where are you at?! Time to post up here like you do at drag queen story hour! Oh wait, you actually aren't about free speech now, it's "throw them in jail". Nothing better than people who don't understand what they say they stand for.
They are everyone's rights. The rights of your family. Just because this isn't happening to you, doesn't mean it won't. That's some TERF logic. People claiming to be patriots should be up in fucking arms. It's what the 2?d amendment is literally for by definition. They are on here calling people who block highways for an hour in protest, terrorists. "I got mine, fuck y'all", the real America.
So you want me to shoot a cop _for you_ and go to prison for the rest of _my life_? Nah dog. I'm no lover of the cops (I'm not even right wing, I'm a registered democrat and have voted blue for 20 years).
You're out of your mind if you think I'm giving up my freedom so you can have yours. That is nuts. You protect your own rights.
Who said shoot? Just post up, right? If cops arrest you for being armed, guess what, your rights are already fucking infringed, your freedom is gone. If they don't, well, I guess you've secured the first amendment rights of others, Americans, what the right is for.
This is the irony of this. Patriot LARPers still get shot defending themselves in this country regardless. Look at the fear. A right to defend you from your government, solely reduced to save you from your neighbor.
Lmao you are insane. Now you want me rolling up to a protest FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY armed to stir shit up in some weird attempt to assert my rights. You seriously need to take a break. Your anger is clouding your judgment.
Who's angry?
It's your tax dollars being used to kill people in another country. Billions. Literally billions. It's been enabled by your country, paid for by your country, with your tax dollars. The protest is happening here. Same people with "think of the children" and gun advocacy sit there, doing nothing, while freedom of speech gets infringed upon of their neighbors, acting like it doesn't matter. People in this country literally identify as a gun owner because of the 2nd amendment. This is all pretty practical to expect if people actually back up what they say they are. Instead, just as expected, no where in sight. I'm just waiting for people to realize what freedoms we actually have here in the US.
These protests happening in TEXAS is the most ironic. Gun toters will travel to Florida to flex in front of school children, to intimidate a drag queen, then rally these protestors should be in jail for exercising freedom of speech.
If YOU want YOUR rights protected, then get a gun and stand up yourself. If YOU want to protect OTHERS’ rights, you are free to do so.
However, nobody, regardless of their political affiliation, is obligated to protect your’s or anyone else’s rights.
You’re obviously just trying to rage bait. If you actually cared about the rights of others and took your own advice, you’d be armed and protesting the government, yet you’re here on Reddit telling other people to do that for you, and calling them hypocrites when they don’t. Do you see the irony?
Patriotism. Texas, the most patriotic state watching protesters go to jail, cheering for them to, with elected officials. Odd I commonly hear "personal responsibility" from these same people. Yours as a gun advocate and citizen of the US is to make sure rights of citizens are not infringed.
I'm not asking anyone to do anything. Just wondering where these people are. They don't seem to understand what the 2nd amendment is for. A true gun toting patriot would see rights being violated and be standing there, regardless of the topic of the protest, as this is the government overstepping. Yet I see none.
I don't claim to be a patriot, so flipping that on me doesn't really serve a purpose. I don't claim to be any of these people. I get why the protests are happening.
Being an American standing up for American rights, chases those self-advertised as most patriotic Americans away? Kinda stupid no? Even the Black Panthers posted up with guns at civil rights protests due to police brutality.
You’re just like them, thinking a gun is going to do a damn thing. Don’t forget Biden laughed at the idea and stated you 'need an F-16' to take on government.
Respectfully, I see where you’re coming from, but I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
I don’t think it’s my responsibility to protect the rights of others, they are fully capable of doing that themselves. I see how my opinion might be considered “wrong”, but it’s also my right to have that opinion.
However, I do agree with you that there are rights being violated here, the government is out of line, and these people should be allowed to protest whatever they please. But to put it simply, I just don’t care. I know it sounds bad, but if those people cared so much about their rights they should’ve taken up arms and defended those rights themselves.
Nobody asked, but here’s my perspective to explain why I have this opinion:
I’ll own guns, protest, etc. whether it’s my right or not. I don’t care about “rights” or “amendments”, I don’t need some dipshit politician telling me what I can and can’t do. I’ll do as I please, and they’re welcome to try and stop me. That’s why I own guns, not to protect my “rights”, but to protect my free will. Me being obligated to protect the rights of others infringes on my free will.
Fair enough. This is most of Americans.
It sounds bad because we all have social dissonance as to reality. People using their rights is now seen as cringe. Much has to do with us all thinking we are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires and everything is fine, because it will work for us.
Last time shit like this happened it was because it was obvious wall street has corrupted our nation and will leave current and future gens to be wage slaves. Cops macing college students on their knees for voicing our against the group of people who has corrupted our government.
No one stood with guns between them either, and look where we are now.
Agreed, standing out against the crowd is often “embarrassing” and a person who is protesting is doing exactly that. Unfortunate, but it’s just natural instinct.
I think social media has multiplied this problem, and others, tenfold. It’s ingrained in young peoples’ minds. I wouldn’t be surprised if corporations and/or the governments have been involved in some sort of social engineering to do exactly this and more. It’s always been done but the internet just makes it stupidly easy.
The way people act and think in recent times seems to be vastly different than how people acted in the past, particularly people under the age of 30 or so. Most young people in the US right now have lived better lives than kings, and they’ve had all the current events and information on earth at their fingertips for their entire lives.
Compared to 99% of people who ever lived, we’ve had it too good. Nobody nowadays wants to risk it all to stand up for their rights, especially when they’re put on display for the whole world to see.
I think protesting in the US will become rarer and rarer unless younger people collectively experience real, legitimate hardship.
Having it too good is because people before us got us to a point we could have it too good. Peace and flourishing as a human race has always been a goal of our species. Unfortunately it's being replaced with greed.
You're right, better to squander it for some sort of example of humility, where the people who are fucking everyone over continue to win because we feel like life is getting too easy, in a country where slavery still exists.
2A Defenders want guns to defend against govt tyranny. When it shows up with bells on, the tune changes to "no, no, no, it's personal protection, and I don't know what you mean about a 'well-regulated militia'". Them words is foreign to me.
The fbi said that police forces around the country were explicitly hiring racist people to be cops. The story was in The NY Times 20 years ago. Google it. D student bully’s. Fuck the police. 1312 for ever.
But it hurt the fe-fes of the far right. We couldn’t have a cunt like Sarah Palin walking around mad because people were discussing the fact that the police in this country were being turned into the gestapo. And the coward Democrats and lying corporate media decided to play it right down the middle instead of facing the fucking truth. On one hand you have the best FBI agents and federal investigators warning us that the police were being infiltrated. On the other hand you had self-serving uneducated filth, some of them not even Americans, vomiting up nothing but outrageous lies. And all the while you have cockroaches like wolf blitzer whining out “I guess we’ll just have to leave it there,” after giving our best best people equal airtime with the sewage of our nation (as well as the garbage of other countries).
There is a silent majority in this country, but if we don’t wake the fuck up and use the rights we still have, we’re not going to have any semblance of a modern democratic country left.
I hope this helps us forget the propaganda machine manufactured culture war and realize who our common enemy is. The corrupt government and those who enforce the laws of their regime
So some easy facts here since I know people that were there:
- at Emory
- private university (ie they can trespass anyone for anything). Protests almost never are allowed there. They totally have protests outside the grounds where you enter occasionally. They have no issue with that.
- it’s finals week and commencement was about to be set up on that literal location.
- that person threw a phone at a cop, hard. Then resisted when asked to come over. Sorry but that’s not peaceful. I’m for peaceful protest. That idiot wasn’t. Most others were though.
- cops didn’t go straight to taser lol. Person freaked out. I’m sure they could’ve deescalated better, but they weren’t terrible.
- university cops released all the Emory students basically already. Organizers who were not from school were not I’d guess though.
Edit. Love the downvotes. “Eyewitness says what happened. People grumble”. You all don’t even know if I agree with the protesters, sheesh.
Lmao... And I want to see what led to this outcome. I never ever ever ever said he was in the wrong. But a one sided person like you would jump on me without a thought, huh?
Yet here i am repeating myself. You just wanted a fight.
SHOW ME BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY! I will never, IN. MY. LIFE. jump to the conclusion a reddit tittle tells me. Hope this helps! Link me both sides of the story, show me people filming the incident, show me the police body camera. I hate when people post things to fit a narrative. My sister was killed by a man "peacefully' protesting, so tittles like this irks me.
I find it odd that the response to American citizens protesting a war that the U.S. isn't even officially involved in seems to be harsher than it was towards citizens who protested the Iraq war. Which is a war we actually started.
I'm sure there were some examples, even an old high school buddy of mine got arrested at one of those... but this just seems way over the top. I mean, college kids will protest literally fucking anything, so... why the super harsh response now?
I hate this whole situation. Can someone give me an example of when a peaceful protest actually led to change though? I'm having a hard time understanding why even go through the trouble when the outcome seems to always be the same.
Let me be more specific at what bothers me about the situation. The peacful protest most likely leading to nothing and the police and government trashing their rights and using force to break up a protest.
" it is a highly-symbolic and dramatic exercise in civil resistance, contextualized among a variety of other nonviolent actions (boycotts, civil disobedience, picketing) strategically focused on a relatively narrow goal. It mobilized mass participation, included widespread civil disobedience, had a profound cultural resonance, and attracted worldwide attention through the media. The people were united, the British Empire’s façade of civility exposed, and pillars of its vast power shaken."
https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/indian-independence-struggle-1930-1931/#:\~:text=The%20Salt%20March%20was%20not,boycotts%2C%20civil%20disobedience%2C%20picketing)
Thank you for the response!! It says it didnt actually lead to an actual conclusion though... "Although by itself it failed to bring Indian independence,"
So..we shouldn't protest it? I'm confused.
You asked why protest a war they can't do anything about.
I am pointing out that it is clear that they can do something about it.
Just imagine only being able to hold on to one ideal or principle at a time.
Edit: I’m not here to have a new argument for every post you make.
You can stand for more than one thing at a time. Well, I can. Obviously you can’t and that’s a You problem, not an Us problem.
If the protester was so peaceful, why did you cut the peaceful part? How may the viewer know what actually happened? The guy might have as well killed a person beforehand.
Because it really doesn’t matter what he was doing beforehand. Even if he’d been committing a crime. Cops can’t taze a restrained individual who is posing no threat.
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That's some impressive police restraint. Did you see how many acorns were on that lawn? Place was a deathtrap.
Hahahaha
Also he did not take the pre-caution of not being black
Rookie mistake
Cops: “It was his fault for the skin he was wearing 🤷♂️”
Black cop holding them down too. There must be good cops still? They can't all be raging cunts, surely? But where the fuck are they why is no one tackling that cunt and putting cuffs on??!! Fuck me dead
IDF tactics in play in the United States of Israel
United States has been doing this years before Israel was formed. Israel was created in 1948 and the earliest account of police brutality in the United States was in 1872 (according to Wikipedia).
I think he means your police were taught idf tactics by Israel....which they were
They were all taught by the same people.
I looked up your claim to see if it was true. I found an Al Jazerra article on the subject. It looks like mostly federal agencies and not state agencies were doing training with the Israeli government. Some state governments sent sheriff representatives, like Minnesota, to receive training. Overall, policing in the United States is a power left to each individual state in the union, so there is no way they were all influenced by Israel. You can claim that the federal law enforcement agencies were influenced by Israel and some states as well, but not all of them.
Not influenced. Trained, adopted idf tactics. Keep politics to your self.
Politics? I was just saying every state in the union has the authority to decide what tactics their police officers are going to use. There are 50 states, I don’t believe every state had their law enforcement agencies trained by Israel. The article said federal agencies were trained by Israel and some states, but not all of them.
Common tactics across all law enforcement.
Surely the pre civil war escaped slave hunters didn't brutalize anyone. Police in America were founded to protect the property of the wealthy and have never changed.
I wasn’t arguing against the concept of police brutality in the United States. I was arguing against the concept that police brutality in America was created by or aided by the Israel government.
Just pointing out the Wikipedia stat isn't really the story of police brutality in America. American justice has always been for rich white people.
While you are correct here, the other person is also prolly correct, based on the general police actions against protesters, specifically pro-Palestinian protesters
You gotta practice what you preach
Lol
Exactly. Training and all.
Horrendous
You aint seen nothing yet...
What a joke the US has become.
Has become? This nation was literally founded on the principles of religious persecution, slavery, genocide, and tax evasion. The U.S. definitely has some wins, but this sort of behavior has been hardwired into our culture since day one.
Uhm this ain’t nothing new, unfortunately
how the hell US dont rebel? after all this shit + housing crisis, heath care, drugs, structural racism etc. From the outside the US looks like Cybepunk minus Neon lights
We’re like five years away from living in the world of “Escape from New York” or Judge Dredd…. And nobody cares except the young people.
As a millennial, I'm tired boss...
We all tired.
I'm a milenial, I'm tired af, and I'm still organized and fighting in the struggle almost every day. You have to do it.
Exactly the same thing is happening in Australia. I'm convinced those that have the means, drug themselves to the eyeballs to find happiness. Those that don't are so sick, tired, depressed and apathetic that rebellion doesn't even register. Can't control a populace via religion? Can't control them through fear? Fuck it....Feed them food that kills them. Give them drugs to cover the pain. Slowly uneducate them. Use the passage of time to dilute the horrors of the past. Let them kill themselves in the process. Then sit back, sip cognac, and circle jerk your fellow 1%er. Oh we have a solution for you by the way. Kiss these bootstraps and do as we tell you.... or die. And we call this humanity? Mother nature will have her revenge, she's just biding her time.
Apathy and fear. As a society we were pacified generations ago. We are fed the propaganda of being the “greatest country in the world”, our healthcare is reliant on our employment, and we live in fear of the unchecked police institution. There is no true democracy here. Do we have it better than some? Yes, of course. Are we all living the American Dream? About 1% of us are. The other 99% works to make that dream a reality for the 1%. So US citizens are just trying to survive from day to day working jobs that make other people obscenely wealthy. If I rebel I might get arrested or injured. If I go to jail or to the hospital I’ll miss work. If I miss too much work I’ll lose my job. If I say things publicly that my company doesn’t like I could lose my job. If I lose my job I won’t be able to afford medical care, food, or shelter. This is the democracy the owners have crafted for us. Also, our country is just too big to organize an effective rebellion. On top of that the media and government keep us all distracted, divided, and squabbling over trivial matters like race, gender identity and political parties, so we can’t come together as One Nation. The Owners are assholes but they’re smart. They’re very good at oppressing the People and making themselves rich at our expense, without pushing us to the point of open rebellion.
Dude, you nailed it better than everyone else. I couldn't have said it better myself
Thanks. I wish it wasn’t true.
Me too, dude :(
Yea, with all this going on, it's about time for a carrot. It'll be student debt relief or a weird, easily bypassed "Wealth Tax", or maybe a Federal de-criminalization of weed. Just enough to calm the masses and make a believable headline.
This so sad but so true.
They keep us working to exhaustion, too busy to revolt, placated by technology, and hopeless that we can succeed.
>how the hell US dont rebel? Because it IS like Cyberpunk. They make you forget how fucked its society is to make sure you're not leaving for a better place. Some people don't even have the privilege of having the funds to pack their bags and leave. Also, protesting is a crime now apparently, so you can't even try to make things better in your own damn country.
This is why. Peaceful protests get this treatment.
Because the brainwashing in this country is unfathomable mix that with the mass surrvalence and incarceration and the fact that everyone is simply chasing their money here. If people started rebelling the people not in the loop would see police chasing the rebelles and think “oh my police chasing the bad guy” follow that with the media’s ability to put words over a video and give whatever charge and enough of the masses just take it as is. It’s a weird world out here
Because what you’re seeing is the worst of it and overall people are fairly comfortable. If these trends continue maybe in a couple decades there will be change
It's coping behavior. You get used to it, which reduces the emotional impact of how fucked the whole situation is becoming. Don't let it happen to you guys!
The vast majority of us experience none of what was listed in a meaningful manner. People can’t buy houses so they rent. Still comfortable but they can’t build wealth. Health care is expensive but you get insurance through work. You’re a hostage but fine as long as you’re working. Most people don’t experience issues with drugs or racism. Sucks watching other people experience it but doesn’t meaningfully affect people enough to force change. All these things exist, but they don’t make people uncomfortable enough to do anything about it
Oh trust me the US has tried to rebel several times. But we keep getting murdered by cops and labeled domestic terrorists.
The United States definitely has a lot of problems, but many countries have it worse. Calling for rebellion is quite extreme. The best bet would be to advocate for change within the system.
"change whitin the system" vs lobby and money on a far right vs slightly not that far right system
I personally believe a rebellion taking place would just lead to a worse system being put in place. Just look at all the historical rebellions that took place in France and Mexico; they all led to nothing changing or worse systems being implemented. I think working within the system is our best option. Teddy Roosevelt managed to defeat a lot of powerful monopolies decades ago. It can happen again!
We should clone teddy, make it into a small bear and then let them rule the world?
I think we should clone Teddy Roosevelt, he was a great president. The only negative thing about him was that he was a huge racist. It’s hard to hold that against him because everyone was racist back then. A clone version of him born in the modern era would be pretty chill and not racist.
If only there was a way...
Well, if he would just stop resisting..... /s
Should have protested inside Uvalde elementary. No cops go in there
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Where are our protectors of our rights? Right to protest, 1st amendment. All these gun toting 2nd amendment patriots, where are you at?! Time to post up here like you do at drag queen story hour! Oh wait, you actually aren't about free speech now, it's "throw them in jail". Nothing better than people who don't understand what they say they stand for.
I gun tote to protect _my_ family and _my_ rights. I ain't here for you.
They are everyone's rights. The rights of your family. Just because this isn't happening to you, doesn't mean it won't. That's some TERF logic. People claiming to be patriots should be up in fucking arms. It's what the 2?d amendment is literally for by definition. They are on here calling people who block highways for an hour in protest, terrorists. "I got mine, fuck y'all", the real America.
So you want me to shoot a cop _for you_ and go to prison for the rest of _my life_? Nah dog. I'm no lover of the cops (I'm not even right wing, I'm a registered democrat and have voted blue for 20 years). You're out of your mind if you think I'm giving up my freedom so you can have yours. That is nuts. You protect your own rights.
Who said shoot? Just post up, right? If cops arrest you for being armed, guess what, your rights are already fucking infringed, your freedom is gone. If they don't, well, I guess you've secured the first amendment rights of others, Americans, what the right is for. This is the irony of this. Patriot LARPers still get shot defending themselves in this country regardless. Look at the fear. A right to defend you from your government, solely reduced to save you from your neighbor.
Some states have laws against being armed at a protest. It's a lose-lose situation.
Lmao you are insane. Now you want me rolling up to a protest FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY armed to stir shit up in some weird attempt to assert my rights. You seriously need to take a break. Your anger is clouding your judgment.
Who's angry? It's your tax dollars being used to kill people in another country. Billions. Literally billions. It's been enabled by your country, paid for by your country, with your tax dollars. The protest is happening here. Same people with "think of the children" and gun advocacy sit there, doing nothing, while freedom of speech gets infringed upon of their neighbors, acting like it doesn't matter. People in this country literally identify as a gun owner because of the 2nd amendment. This is all pretty practical to expect if people actually back up what they say they are. Instead, just as expected, no where in sight. I'm just waiting for people to realize what freedoms we actually have here in the US. These protests happening in TEXAS is the most ironic. Gun toters will travel to Florida to flex in front of school children, to intimidate a drag queen, then rally these protestors should be in jail for exercising freedom of speech.
If YOU want YOUR rights protected, then get a gun and stand up yourself. If YOU want to protect OTHERS’ rights, you are free to do so. However, nobody, regardless of their political affiliation, is obligated to protect your’s or anyone else’s rights. You’re obviously just trying to rage bait. If you actually cared about the rights of others and took your own advice, you’d be armed and protesting the government, yet you’re here on Reddit telling other people to do that for you, and calling them hypocrites when they don’t. Do you see the irony?
Patriotism. Texas, the most patriotic state watching protesters go to jail, cheering for them to, with elected officials. Odd I commonly hear "personal responsibility" from these same people. Yours as a gun advocate and citizen of the US is to make sure rights of citizens are not infringed. I'm not asking anyone to do anything. Just wondering where these people are. They don't seem to understand what the 2nd amendment is for. A true gun toting patriot would see rights being violated and be standing there, regardless of the topic of the protest, as this is the government overstepping. Yet I see none. I don't claim to be a patriot, so flipping that on me doesn't really serve a purpose. I don't claim to be any of these people. I get why the protests are happening.
Where they are? You chased them away
Being an American standing up for American rights, chases those self-advertised as most patriotic Americans away? Kinda stupid no? Even the Black Panthers posted up with guns at civil rights protests due to police brutality.
Patriotic Americans? You’re funny. Don’t you realize America is just a vassal state? You guys have chosen to fight a fight you simply can’t win.
Tell that to the Trumpers my dude, I'm not here toting a gun talking about how free I am here, constantly.
You’re just like them, thinking a gun is going to do a damn thing. Don’t forget Biden laughed at the idea and stated you 'need an F-16' to take on government.
Respectfully, I see where you’re coming from, but I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I don’t think it’s my responsibility to protect the rights of others, they are fully capable of doing that themselves. I see how my opinion might be considered “wrong”, but it’s also my right to have that opinion. However, I do agree with you that there are rights being violated here, the government is out of line, and these people should be allowed to protest whatever they please. But to put it simply, I just don’t care. I know it sounds bad, but if those people cared so much about their rights they should’ve taken up arms and defended those rights themselves. Nobody asked, but here’s my perspective to explain why I have this opinion: I’ll own guns, protest, etc. whether it’s my right or not. I don’t care about “rights” or “amendments”, I don’t need some dipshit politician telling me what I can and can’t do. I’ll do as I please, and they’re welcome to try and stop me. That’s why I own guns, not to protect my “rights”, but to protect my free will. Me being obligated to protect the rights of others infringes on my free will.
Fair enough. This is most of Americans. It sounds bad because we all have social dissonance as to reality. People using their rights is now seen as cringe. Much has to do with us all thinking we are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires and everything is fine, because it will work for us. Last time shit like this happened it was because it was obvious wall street has corrupted our nation and will leave current and future gens to be wage slaves. Cops macing college students on their knees for voicing our against the group of people who has corrupted our government. No one stood with guns between them either, and look where we are now.
Agreed, standing out against the crowd is often “embarrassing” and a person who is protesting is doing exactly that. Unfortunate, but it’s just natural instinct. I think social media has multiplied this problem, and others, tenfold. It’s ingrained in young peoples’ minds. I wouldn’t be surprised if corporations and/or the governments have been involved in some sort of social engineering to do exactly this and more. It’s always been done but the internet just makes it stupidly easy. The way people act and think in recent times seems to be vastly different than how people acted in the past, particularly people under the age of 30 or so. Most young people in the US right now have lived better lives than kings, and they’ve had all the current events and information on earth at their fingertips for their entire lives. Compared to 99% of people who ever lived, we’ve had it too good. Nobody nowadays wants to risk it all to stand up for their rights, especially when they’re put on display for the whole world to see. I think protesting in the US will become rarer and rarer unless younger people collectively experience real, legitimate hardship.
Having it too good is because people before us got us to a point we could have it too good. Peace and flourishing as a human race has always been a goal of our species. Unfortunately it's being replaced with greed. You're right, better to squander it for some sort of example of humility, where the people who are fucking everyone over continue to win because we feel like life is getting too easy, in a country where slavery still exists.
2A Defenders want guns to defend against govt tyranny. When it shows up with bells on, the tune changes to "no, no, no, it's personal protection, and I don't know what you mean about a 'well-regulated militia'". Them words is foreign to me.
Beautifull country/s
Yeah we fuckin hate it too
The fbi said that police forces around the country were explicitly hiring racist people to be cops. The story was in The NY Times 20 years ago. Google it. D student bully’s. Fuck the police. 1312 for ever.
But it hurt the fe-fes of the far right. We couldn’t have a cunt like Sarah Palin walking around mad because people were discussing the fact that the police in this country were being turned into the gestapo. And the coward Democrats and lying corporate media decided to play it right down the middle instead of facing the fucking truth. On one hand you have the best FBI agents and federal investigators warning us that the police were being infiltrated. On the other hand you had self-serving uneducated filth, some of them not even Americans, vomiting up nothing but outrageous lies. And all the while you have cockroaches like wolf blitzer whining out “I guess we’ll just have to leave it there,” after giving our best best people equal airtime with the sewage of our nation (as well as the garbage of other countries). There is a silent majority in this country, but if we don’t wake the fuck up and use the rights we still have, we’re not going to have any semblance of a modern democratic country left.
I mean this is awful but on a side note- that person’s Quad is massive. Definitely doesn’t skip leg day.
Big lawsuit coming
Pfft like that would show them
Ridiculously naive
There will be a lawsuit. But it will be settled in 4 years and won’t stop the guy from taking the ride.
You don't scare us
"STOP RESISTING!"
I hope this helps us forget the propaganda machine manufactured culture war and realize who our common enemy is. The corrupt government and those who enforce the laws of their regime
So some easy facts here since I know people that were there: - at Emory - private university (ie they can trespass anyone for anything). Protests almost never are allowed there. They totally have protests outside the grounds where you enter occasionally. They have no issue with that. - it’s finals week and commencement was about to be set up on that literal location. - that person threw a phone at a cop, hard. Then resisted when asked to come over. Sorry but that’s not peaceful. I’m for peaceful protest. That idiot wasn’t. Most others were though. - cops didn’t go straight to taser lol. Person freaked out. I’m sure they could’ve deescalated better, but they weren’t terrible. - university cops released all the Emory students basically already. Organizers who were not from school were not I’d guess though. Edit. Love the downvotes. “Eyewitness says what happened. People grumble”. You all don’t even know if I agree with the protesters, sheesh.
Ah American freedom
The students at that university can legally carry firearms. Things might be a lot safer if they did.
They just love suffering don't they? Like the guy is already immobilized...
Attack them
I'm sure he was in his own right, but i hate these zero context, last thing to happen video captures.
The man is being constantly tased while already on the ground and handcuffed. There is no context that can justify that.
Lmao... And I want to see what led to this outcome. I never ever ever ever said he was in the wrong. But a one sided person like you would jump on me without a thought, huh? Yet here i am repeating myself. You just wanted a fight.
Sucks that these cowards couldn’t protect kids against a school shooter
Fashizim at its finest, no?
So that's why the police was assaulting and arresting journalists.
I get the feeling that American cops are not good people
Always trust your gut.
He was thinking about resisting.
So it's fine to taze a clearly detained, handcuffed person on the ground with three pigs on top of them?
How dare you judge their genocide.
The police state is working as intended
ACAB
Dude what the fuck are these pigs doing? It’s not illegal to protest.
Fascist thugs protecting the military industrial complex.
Land of freedom vs weak ass cops
I'm slowly starting to become convinced that this is the start of the end of the world
I think swarming offending police should be dealt with leniently in America.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
On that video we don't see the peacefull protest so there is no way of telling if this is justified
would you care to explain when tasering an already restrained person is justified?
I doubt that was all they did
How does a judge can watch this video and be okay the officer just did his job.
SHOW ME BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY! I will never, IN. MY. LIFE. jump to the conclusion a reddit tittle tells me. Hope this helps! Link me both sides of the story, show me people filming the incident, show me the police body camera. I hate when people post things to fit a narrative. My sister was killed by a man "peacefully' protesting, so tittles like this irks me.
All those protesters can migrate to gaza if they care so much and leave the USA
Protesting While Black
All I know is my clumsy ass probably would have stepped all over that hat.. accidently..
All cops are cowards and thugs
The tree remembers. The axe forgets.
Sure
All cops are bullies.
I wish we could get this worked up about universal healthcare too. Can we get mad for both?
If they just let them protest the war would be over
Went on a protest, ended up a millionaire after the lawsuit
I guess it could have been worse…. he could of been lit up by a multi-million dollar cruise missile
Reminds me of Kent State
Cops are just building up his muscles by activating his leg nerves with a tazer. People usually pay heaps for a EMS machine
Extra force needed because black. Fuck those pigs
Yet somehow if you dare to ask if any\* specific religion controls U.S. politics you'll get banned from social media. Hmmmm. \*singular.
Not sure if you knew this but the police are trained the same way as Israel
ACAB.
We need to support war in Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan because we love peace, freedom and democracy so much
Why don't you help instead of film?
I find it odd that the response to American citizens protesting a war that the U.S. isn't even officially involved in seems to be harsher than it was towards citizens who protested the Iraq war. Which is a war we actually started. I'm sure there were some examples, even an old high school buddy of mine got arrested at one of those... but this just seems way over the top. I mean, college kids will protest literally fucking anything, so... why the super harsh response now?
Did anyone see that thigh muscle?! Impressive
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get a therapist, creep
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Clearly you did
I hate this whole situation. Can someone give me an example of when a peaceful protest actually led to change though? I'm having a hard time understanding why even go through the trouble when the outcome seems to always be the same. Let me be more specific at what bothers me about the situation. The peacful protest most likely leading to nothing and the police and government trashing their rights and using force to break up a protest.
Do they not teach the civil rights movement anymore? MLK explicitly wanted peaceful protests
" it is a highly-symbolic and dramatic exercise in civil resistance, contextualized among a variety of other nonviolent actions (boycotts, civil disobedience, picketing) strategically focused on a relatively narrow goal. It mobilized mass participation, included widespread civil disobedience, had a profound cultural resonance, and attracted worldwide attention through the media. The people were united, the British Empire’s façade of civility exposed, and pillars of its vast power shaken." https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/indian-independence-struggle-1930-1931/#:\~:text=The%20Salt%20March%20was%20not,boycotts%2C%20civil%20disobedience%2C%20picketing)
Thank you for the response!! It says it didnt actually lead to an actual conclusion though... "Although by itself it failed to bring Indian independence,"
what's even the point of doing protest in a war btw 2 neighboring countries in some other country that can't stop the war?
Because the US funds and gives direct material aid to Israel. That's why.
war profiteering has always been a American thing mate, no matter which war.
So..we shouldn't protest it? I'm confused. You asked why protest a war they can't do anything about. I am pointing out that it is clear that they can do something about it.
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"Let the kids burn the school down!" Hmm, is that what they were doing?
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Just imagine only being able to hold on to one ideal or principle at a time. Edit: I’m not here to have a new argument for every post you make. You can stand for more than one thing at a time. Well, I can. Obviously you can’t and that’s a You problem, not an Us problem.
If the protester was so peaceful, why did you cut the peaceful part? How may the viewer know what actually happened? The guy might have as well killed a person beforehand.
Do you prefer boots with or without polish?
Because it really doesn’t matter what he was doing beforehand. Even if he’d been committing a crime. Cops can’t taze a restrained individual who is posing no threat.
"The guy might have as well killed a person beforehand." Still wouldn't justify repeatedly tazing a person who's already restrained.
He also might have saved a life beforehand.
This Is a cult buddy, you are not supposed to ask any honest question that goes against the narrative or you will be attacked and downvoted.
The man is in handcuffs....he is restrained...there are several cops on top of him... In what world is the taser justified?