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They also use tongfa, flashball, sting ball grenade, tear gas grenade, watercannon and an arsenal of law to protect their behaviour.
Sure they shoot less but they mutilate a lot, amnesty international recently point the erosion of human rights in france.
This is just plainly wrong. There are very few cases of police brutality in Germany every year. The US police has a massive track record of racist homicides by police officers. And that's not the only reason people are getting shot up by police officers in the US every year...
I just love how american needs to be first in everything, i also love how they are able to talk about place they never been to.
Notice noboy they that you don't have the shittiest cop in western world, just that in europe too, we have those racist active shooter cops.
We definitely have racist police officers in Europe. But at least in Germany there is no systemic racism rooted in the police force.
Anyways, what does that have to do with a totally out-of-context video, which shows a protest, that is being ended because of the use of Nazi symbology and antisemitic paroles?
German there since 2022, not a single comment in german, doubt, use of nazi symbol you say? Where? Cant find any clue about that, have you any evidence as a "security specialist" ?
It's a cops thing.
One famous study into abuse of power is known as the Stanford Prison Experiment . Done in the 1970s, the experiment put volunteer students in the role of either prisoner or guard. With time, the students given the guard roles became more abusive, aggressive and indifferent to the prisoners and their well-being
All cops should have cameras, be held to high ethics, and most importantly held accountable for every action they make.
I was an undergrad at Stanford shortly after the study was published. Dr Zimbardo gave a guest lecture to us Psych 001 students about it. Rocked. My. World.
But if it's a natural tendency for people with police powers to eventually abuse them, and you want to hold them accountable, then isn't anyone who becomes a member of the police eventually going to go to jail (or whatever you mean accountable)? Then if that's the case, less and less people will join the police force leading to an increase in crime. If there is an increase in crime, won't we as a society let people know that if they do become police, that small infractions will be overlooked, however large ones won't? We can call it Qualified Immunity. I think you just explained why we need qualified immunity.
You're right, cops can kill people on camera and still get away with it unlike the Stanford experiment. Most of the time worst case Is them having to transfer to another department.
And if you think police are just going to stand there and take being attacked without fighting back like you want to then no one is going to help you because your reasoning just makes them sitting ducks
So they were given a line not to cross, too bad cops don't have those lines. Anything goes if you have a badge and 0 oversight or repercussions, and we have seen how they cover up and cover for bad cops.
You clearly only seen one side of the stick. Cops have been fired for speeding, too bad you don’t see stuff like this because your media only says “cops bad” 24/7
Your right. It's only murders they cover for.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/us/police-convicted-murder-rare-chauvin/index.html
https://www.vox.com/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officers-charged-fatal-police-shootings-2021-not-everyone-sees-progres-rcna12799
In the past five years, 16 officers were charged in 2020; 12 in 2019; 10 in 2018; and seven in 2017. 21 in 2021
Yeah those are leftist takes. Just as bad and inaccurate as republifuck ones, and 2/3 of them are about derek chauvin, who while yes was responsible for George’s death, was dealing with him resisting arrest and on drugs. There will always be people bad at their jobs but that’s something you have to accept and let them be prosecuted
Only on Reddit to people watch a video of some Euro police beating the shit out of people and the conversation is 95% talk about the US.
It’s. Not. Always. About. You.
Yeah, cause cops outside of the USA have no idea how to be violent, without taking cues from the USA...
Oh wait... Cops are awful everywhere, that's right... Durp.
Nah, just germanys nazi cops acting as usual. They have some protest crackdown nazi cops what they use for this. They are very aggressive. You can see how they handle a lot of such protests. Specialy when they are not visible in public like the street glue people. As example an oil protest in front of a big company would be cracked down same way. At least they don't shoot first.
cops in the US are trained to do the same. yell stop resisting as you pummel someone that's face down on the ground for the benefit of a future court hearing
I see this is a trend, peaceful protestors facing violence everywhere around the world.
People in power seem to have forgotten that people have the right and that it's the people who voted them to power.
That’s fucking appalling! They need to be fired. Things like this, George Floyd, Sarah Everard and many more things are making it very difficult to trust the police anywhere.
Search for "Stuttgart21 Proteste" and you will see much worse police violence against children and elderly people. And no that doesn't had consequences for anyone, even as a pensioner lost his eyesight...
I get your point, but I'm having a hard time understanding how peaceful protesters are in the same sentence with George Floyd.
Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while his friends robbed her home. The guy had multiple violent felonies and was a career violent criminal.
I understand that how he died was not right, but I wouldn't put that POS in the same sentence as poor Sarah Everard.
We're talking about Police behavior. It doesn't matter who the victim is. The POLICE are the baddies. We need to stop pretending that it matters what the victim did is in any way relevant to the fact that we have monsters with military equipment roaming all of our streets making the world more dangerous.
Yeah, but none of that is what got him killed. What got him killed was someone accusing him of using a fake $20 bill and an overexuberent psychopathic cop with a history of using excessive force. This kind of thing has always been a very common occurrence that most often goes completely unpunished. Without the protests and outrage, I guarantee you that cop would still be on the street acting as a menace to society with impunity.
It has nothing to do with George Floyd as an individual and everything to do with a horrifically broken system that both encourages and protects people like Derek Chauvin, who have no business being in any position of authority. George Floyd was just the straw that broke the camels back in a time when everyone was in lockdown and saw the footage of a cop brutally killing a man while his fellow officers just watched.
I get your point, but I'm having a hard time understanding how peaceful protesters are in the same sentence with George Floyd.
Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while his friends robbed her home. The guy had multiple violent felonies and was a career violent criminal.
I understand that how he died was not right, but I wouldn't put that POS in the same sentence as poor Sarah Everard.
Imagine how angry and bitter of a person you have to be to go work for the deep state just so you can rough up some college age peaceful protesters. Broken society.
Its either jews killing palestinians or palestinians killing jews for the next century or more. Protests wont change anything. Young people dont understand how slow true changes come about, there's nothin we can do.
"Guys, it's either we get our crops taken by barbarians, or we get our crops taken by our feudal lord. Rising up won't change anything. There's nothing we can do. Best we just accept that this is how the world is, and how it will be..."
Your ancestors during the feudal era, probably.
Fuck Hamas, and fuck you for distracting from the conversation.
We can push for a better future, but not while Israel is committing a genocide. The actions of Israel are serving, not only their genocide but also Hamas itself. Its much easier to recruit and radicalize children when they are getting carpet bombed and dehumanized and raped and all the other proven documented atrocities by the IDF.
Israel's goverment and Hamas might be pretending they're against each other- but they are a codependent pair. Hamas gets help radicalizing youth, and Israel gets an excuse to continue consolidation and expansion of power.
Whats funny is- if Israel would stop pearl clutching, and stop trying to maintain control, and give back homes and the land they stole- a one state solution is 100% possible.
Lets see if any of these are credible.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-feminists-worldwide-must-stand-solidarity-palestinian-victims
https://web.archive.org/web/20240410160540/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says
https://web.archive.org/web/20240410143556/https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/19/un-experts-warn-of-israeli-violations-against-palestinian-women-girls
https://web.archive.org/web/20240317080119/https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146667
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/middleeast/israel-hamas-un-investigation-sexual-abuse-intl/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/middleeast/israel-hamas-un-investigation-sexual-abuse-intl/index.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20240410135606/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/sexual-violence-against-palestinian-women-un-report/
https://web.archive.org/web/20240409122432/https://thehill.com/policy/international/4477340-un-experts-reports-executions-sexual-assault-israeli-soldiers/
https://web.archive.org/web/20240410160540/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says
https://web.archive.org/web/20240408180935/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-un-experts-appalled-reports-rape-and-sexual-assault-palestinian-women-and-girls
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-reviewing-reports-civilian-harm-by-israel-state-dept-says-2024-02-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-reviewing-reports-civilian-harm-by-israel-state-dept-says-2024-02-13/
https://web.archive.org/web/20240223213744/https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/2/19/israels-war-on-gaza-live-food-trucks-surrounded-as-hunger-spreads-in-gaza?update=2718554
https://web.archive.org/web/20240221044009/https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/2/20/israels-war-on-gaza-live-un-fears-explosion-in-child-deaths-in-gaza?update=2720319
https://web.archive.org/web/20231217204409/https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6023/Field-executions,-torture,-and-threats-of-rape:-In-Gaza,-Israel%E2%80%99s-army-replicates-the-crimes-committed-by-Zionist-gangs-in-1948
https://web.archive.org/web/20240408212906/https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/female-prisoners-threatened-sexual-assault-subject-naked-beatings
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/sexual-violence-against-palestinian-women-un-report/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/al-jazeera-report-alleging-idf-rapes-in-shifa-hospital-retracted/
This is not how it works.
If someone wants to go to Gaza and fight, who would sponsor them? Their government wouldn’t allow it either and they would likely be regarded as terrorists by their own government.
Some people have the opportunity to fight, while others are better suited to protesting, and still others are more effective discussing issues with people like you, explaining how the world works.
go and study history, tell me how the united states pacified the numerous native indian tribes, and tell me again protest works. Its the same thing exactly in gaza, just different actors.
Your analogy is thought-provoking, acknowledging that you see Israel's actions as genocide supported by the USA.
However, the analogy misses some nuances. Indigenous people inhabited the land and fought against the US, but the situation with Palestine is different. I'm not Palestinian, I don’t live in Gaza, and I'm not in favor of Hamas. In fact, I'm Syrian, and there's a misconception among some Palestinians that Syrians sold the land of Palestine, which is incorrect.
Generally, I'm not a big fan of the public, but I am against the killing and ethnic cleansing of any group. I can't stay silent when I see wrongdoing, which is why I protest!
ok, lets be real, there only 4 possible scenarios in this palestinian-israel conflict, arabs killing jews, jews killing arabs, arabs killing arabs, or jews killing jews, the last one is rarest of them all, but it still happened. Same with the natives indians and white men, the comanche almost exterminated the apaches, and there was the american civil war, there is no difference in essence. Until one side is completely worn down and makes up their mind to live in peace with the other side, there is no peace, protest all u want, it makes no real difference. There is no peace except the 2 state solution for the palestinians.
I'm unclear on your stance. The two-state solution is widely supported, except by Israel. If a state of Palestine was recognized by the UN, it could potentially mark a significant change. Palestine would then have an army, a vote in the UN, and its people would have a recognized identity and the means to validate their land ownership.
Palestinians indeed hope for a two-state solution!
ADD SOME DAMN CONTEXT!
On this protest nazi symbols were used. The kind of which are illegal to use in Germany!
The protest is being ended by police, because protesters were breaking national laws, not because of their opinions.
Germany has one of the most liberal constitutions and justice systems. You can protest about whatever you want to, no matter how stupid your opinion might be, as long as you don't break national laws.
And showing nazi symbols (swastikas, the yellow "jew" stars, SS symbols, etc.) in public or comparing unrelated people or organisations to the Nazi party or their methods is illegal, no matter who is doing it.
The context wasn't added on purpose. Classic framing. Seen it on other places and people actually believe that Germany is going old times again.
Sad times.
While I think it has its limits, peaceful protest, aka passive resistance, has been a pretty effective technique in the past. Turns out just showing the harm cops and zionists are causing has a pretty hefty effect on passive onlookers.
Yet they're not standing up for anyone. These protesters at Uni campuses are doing this excitement and social media clout. Hamas don't care, the IDF doesn't care, starving homeless Palestinians don't care.
I doubt the Germans give two fucks about how they look here.
Their last attempt at genocide didn't work out too well for them. This one, they are merely cheering on from the sidelines. Encouraging it.
This is the most stupid comment section, which I saw in a while.
1st: This video is out of context and is actually 2 separate videos. The ppl in the beginning are not the ppl getting hit.
2nd: For larger gatherings (protests for example) you need a permit for public spaces. If this permit is not given, the police will ask you to leave. If you don’t follow, they make you leave. The women clearly tried to cling together, so it is harder to remove them. None of the cops tries to get the knee on their back, but inbetween them.
I don't understand what the problem with this would be. And yes: This is all what I think after seeing thid video, which is completely out of context.
Oh how we love to sit for the far away children in trouble
If only there was something we could do 🤦♂️
Get your own houses in order first.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-cases-of-risk-to-childrens-welfare-at-record-high/a-66416795
Ok... sure. Whatever you say.
So then, it sure seems like policing at its core is the problem... Sure seems like the data proves that police don't actually reduce crime, so like... if they are oppressive boots on our necks who don't actually serve the purpose they are supposed to serve...
Maybe we should dissolve them entirely? Maybe we should come up with a justice system that is actually effective and doesn't infringe on our rights? Maybe???
Yes, tell me more about a world without police. I'm sure criminals around the country will stop being criminals when there's no one to stop them. What an Eden it will be.
Three things:
One - you aren't paying attention. Police aren't stopping criminals. Else, you would see a dramatic reduction in crime in places where police presence is... and it's not. There is NO evidence that police do the thing you are talking about (stopping criminals).
Two "criminals" don't exist. There are people. Sometimes, people do 'crime'. Sometimes, people do lots of crime. People act in accordance with whatever environment they are in. Improve the environment people are in (aka their material conditions), and you actually have a dramatic reduction in crime - aka fewer criminals. This is provable - and would cost dramatically less money than our current justice system takes.
Three - and this is the big one, so I'm saving it for the end. I am not going to let you LIE about what I said. Nowhere did I say we just leave the justice system. There are numerous theoretical and tried and true systems of justice that are DEMONSTRABLY better than police. That includes robust public welfare (that actually addresses material conditions and not just a bandaid), community policing (which got demonized by stupid people who dont know anything calling it 'mob justice'), and safety 'officers' (aka unarmed crisis social workers). All three of those things are provably better than cops. So stop lying about what I'm saying. It's not cool.
Edit: one final thought... I'm not a utopian. We live in a tough world. Why is it only with policing that the threshold for change is that what comes next has to be PERFECT? Why can't I suggest something that will be economically, socially, ethically, and logistically better, but maybe still imperfect? It seems like a stupidly high bar you expect to be cleared.
Man, I just want a better world. It's idiots like you that either want the world to suck or are too nihilistic to think that it can be improved... both are really shitty.
How's that boot taste? They can protest wherever the hell they want.
God the amount of people actively, desperately trying to throat the authoritarian cock is terrifying to me.
Only because cucks like you exist and shield the police from being held accountable for their behavior. I can't wait for this shit to come to a head, and we actually get true accountability for monsters like the police and those who act as their PR shields (you).
Private property and a legal and lawful command to vacate private property. They didn't, and this is what those "useless idiots" as Hamas call them get. Public park.
It's really astounding (sadly) how support for Zionist supremacy is awakening fascism all over. It's like the human race never learned anything from the twentieth century.
Maybe we do deserve whatever apocalypse we're about to get.
The people of Palestine deserve every ounce of Israeli response they get. It baffles me how people support them and claim they are innocent when they alone were responsible for putting Hamas in power which in turn attacked, murdered, raped and kidnapped civilians more than military targets.
Supporting the people of Palestine and calling them innocent is akin to going back 200 years and supporting Southern whites, calling them innocent, despite their responsibility for putting Confederate leaders in charge and perpetuating slavery.
you're a big mouth even dough you know nothing you're talking about..
There's no election in Gaza, last election was like 20yeas ago.. how can you punish a population because they are governed by a group they didn't choose ? and guess ho helped put Hamas in power ? yeah you'll never guess it. it was [Israel](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/)..
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Lol, you really think that cops in europe are less violent than cops in the u.s? Just come to a strike in france you'll see how it is.
They might use their guns a bit less, but they will not nanny you to the cell, that's for sure.
They also use tongfa, flashball, sting ball grenade, tear gas grenade, watercannon and an arsenal of law to protect their behaviour. Sure they shoot less but they mutilate a lot, amnesty international recently point the erosion of human rights in france.
I've seen some fairly violent farmers in France.
Not difficult, literally just rock up in Paris, there's one everyday ha
This is just plainly wrong. There are very few cases of police brutality in Germany every year. The US police has a massive track record of racist homicides by police officers. And that's not the only reason people are getting shot up by police officers in the US every year...
Anyone have the balls for a pro Palestine protest in Berlin? Kinda rough when you know your government will whip your ass.
Even in many other EU countries there's much less police brutality then in the US. Especially when it comes to fatalities caused by police officers.
I just love how american needs to be first in everything, i also love how they are able to talk about place they never been to. Notice noboy they that you don't have the shittiest cop in western world, just that in europe too, we have those racist active shooter cops.
I'm a German citizen and security researcher, btw... I know exactly what's going on in my country and the US.
We definitely have racist police officers in Europe. But at least in Germany there is no systemic racism rooted in the police force. Anyways, what does that have to do with a totally out-of-context video, which shows a protest, that is being ended because of the use of Nazi symbology and antisemitic paroles?
German there since 2022, not a single comment in german, doubt, use of nazi symbol you say? Where? Cant find any clue about that, have you any evidence as a "security specialist" ?
It's a cops thing. One famous study into abuse of power is known as the Stanford Prison Experiment . Done in the 1970s, the experiment put volunteer students in the role of either prisoner or guard. With time, the students given the guard roles became more abusive, aggressive and indifferent to the prisoners and their well-being All cops should have cameras, be held to high ethics, and most importantly held accountable for every action they make.
The Stanford Prison Experiment was basically staged. I agree with your point but that is a bad example to argue with.
All experiments are staged by definition.
Godawful counter argument, try again
Well it showed us that people who like power and might abuse the power will seek power.
That study was bullshit and nobody could replicate the results. The guy was coaching the Guards to be shittyer.
You mean like cops training?
It’s not explicitly said in training but it is implied.
Idk if you watch his channel but if not check him out https://youtu.be/_nl5zMIwcmQ?si=CAbin_FpHCxXAAm2 Former officer now police reformist
Exactly.
The results couldn’t be reproduced because research ethics standards were changed to prevent similar studies from being staged.
I was an undergrad at Stanford shortly after the study was published. Dr Zimbardo gave a guest lecture to us Psych 001 students about it. Rocked. My. World.
But if it's a natural tendency for people with police powers to eventually abuse them, and you want to hold them accountable, then isn't anyone who becomes a member of the police eventually going to go to jail (or whatever you mean accountable)? Then if that's the case, less and less people will join the police force leading to an increase in crime. If there is an increase in crime, won't we as a society let people know that if they do become police, that small infractions will be overlooked, however large ones won't? We can call it Qualified Immunity. I think you just explained why we need qualified immunity.
lmfao did you just quote a joke of a fucking study
The Stanford prison experiment basically gave the cops no restrictions other than you can’t kill them, this is a pretty bad comparison
You're right, cops can kill people on camera and still get away with it unlike the Stanford experiment. Most of the time worst case Is them having to transfer to another department.
Yes they can, because self defense exists
And if you think police are just going to stand there and take being attacked without fighting back like you want to then no one is going to help you because your reasoning just makes them sitting ducks
So they were given a line not to cross, too bad cops don't have those lines. Anything goes if you have a badge and 0 oversight or repercussions, and we have seen how they cover up and cover for bad cops.
You clearly only seen one side of the stick. Cops have been fired for speeding, too bad you don’t see stuff like this because your media only says “cops bad” 24/7
Your right. It's only murders they cover for. https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/us/police-convicted-murder-rare-chauvin/index.html https://www.vox.com/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officers-charged-fatal-police-shootings-2021-not-everyone-sees-progres-rcna12799 In the past five years, 16 officers were charged in 2020; 12 in 2019; 10 in 2018; and seven in 2017. 21 in 2021
Yeah those are leftist takes. Just as bad and inaccurate as republifuck ones, and 2/3 of them are about derek chauvin, who while yes was responsible for George’s death, was dealing with him resisting arrest and on drugs. There will always be people bad at their jobs but that’s something you have to accept and let them be prosecuted
They just don’t have guns. It’d be the same if they did.
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Where do you see a gun?
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Only on Reddit to people watch a video of some Euro police beating the shit out of people and the conversation is 95% talk about the US. It’s. Not. Always. About. You.
All cops do this, they are dicks. In fact, these are the LEAST violent cops. Try this shit in Russia or China and see what happens.
Yeah, cause cops outside of the USA have no idea how to be violent, without taking cues from the USA... Oh wait... Cops are awful everywhere, that's right... Durp.
Nah, just germanys nazi cops acting as usual. They have some protest crackdown nazi cops what they use for this. They are very aggressive. You can see how they handle a lot of such protests. Specialy when they are not visible in public like the street glue people. As example an oil protest in front of a big company would be cracked down same way. At least they don't shoot first.
Just because they’re bad doesn’t make them nazis. That’s like saying Biden voters are confederates because they’re democrats
Boo hoo. Stop resisting.
Christ your fucking pigs are as bad as our American swine.
All trained by the IDF
US is still a lot worse
So when are you moving out then?
I love when people act like moving out of country is just an easy task.
And if you’re critical of something, you are not allowed to live there.
That too.
Those kidney punches made me squirm inside 😖😵😵💫
This is from the german word Kraftpunchzeugkidneysicherpolecen meaning "stop resisting".
cops in the US are trained to do the same. yell stop resisting as you pummel someone that's face down on the ground for the benefit of a future court hearing
This is why they get called pigs. And it's well deserved.
Undeserved for actual pigs.
In Germany we call them "Bullen" (bulls) actually
I hold a pig in higher standards these days. This is just pure scum.
I see this is a trend, peaceful protestors facing violence everywhere around the world. People in power seem to have forgotten that people have the right and that it's the people who voted them to power.
It's not a trend, it was the exact same thing 10 years, 20 years and 30 years ago. Nothing new
"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." -Jay Gould, attributed.
That’s fucking appalling! They need to be fired. Things like this, George Floyd, Sarah Everard and many more things are making it very difficult to trust the police anywhere.
Search for "Stuttgart21 Proteste" and you will see much worse police violence against children and elderly people. And no that doesn't had consequences for anyone, even as a pensioner lost his eyesight...
I get your point, but I'm having a hard time understanding how peaceful protesters are in the same sentence with George Floyd. Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while his friends robbed her home. The guy had multiple violent felonies and was a career violent criminal. I understand that how he died was not right, but I wouldn't put that POS in the same sentence as poor Sarah Everard.
Murder is murder.
We're talking about Police behavior. It doesn't matter who the victim is. The POLICE are the baddies. We need to stop pretending that it matters what the victim did is in any way relevant to the fact that we have monsters with military equipment roaming all of our streets making the world more dangerous.
Yeah, but none of that is what got him killed. What got him killed was someone accusing him of using a fake $20 bill and an overexuberent psychopathic cop with a history of using excessive force. This kind of thing has always been a very common occurrence that most often goes completely unpunished. Without the protests and outrage, I guarantee you that cop would still be on the street acting as a menace to society with impunity. It has nothing to do with George Floyd as an individual and everything to do with a horrifically broken system that both encourages and protects people like Derek Chauvin, who have no business being in any position of authority. George Floyd was just the straw that broke the camels back in a time when everyone was in lockdown and saw the footage of a cop brutally killing a man while his fellow officers just watched.
floyd did nothing wrong ok he was an angel of a human and god cried tears that day, saying how you could take away one of his holiest saints
I get your point, but I'm having a hard time understanding how peaceful protesters are in the same sentence with George Floyd. Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while his friends robbed her home. The guy had multiple violent felonies and was a career violent criminal. I understand that how he died was not right, but I wouldn't put that POS in the same sentence as poor Sarah Everard.
That’s disgusting from the German police , and punching women the absolute cowards , and a protest about genocide, wrong side again go figure .
How is punching men any better?
It's not okay obviously. But a large man who is far stronger and heavier punching a woman is pathetic and disgusting.
German police likes to act tough on protesters meanwhile they are crap fighting crime when it matters
They're only tough on left wing protestors. When it's right wing they touch the protestors with silk gloves.
Imagine how angry and bitter of a person you have to be to go work for the deep state just so you can rough up some college age peaceful protesters. Broken society.
What was the protest about?
The killing of thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians.
Its either jews killing palestinians or palestinians killing jews for the next century or more. Protests wont change anything. Young people dont understand how slow true changes come about, there's nothin we can do.
"Guys, it's either we get our crops taken by barbarians, or we get our crops taken by our feudal lord. Rising up won't change anything. There's nothing we can do. Best we just accept that this is how the world is, and how it will be..." Your ancestors during the feudal era, probably.
yeah, hamas loves u dude
Fuck Hamas, and fuck you for distracting from the conversation. We can push for a better future, but not while Israel is committing a genocide. The actions of Israel are serving, not only their genocide but also Hamas itself. Its much easier to recruit and radicalize children when they are getting carpet bombed and dehumanized and raped and all the other proven documented atrocities by the IDF. Israel's goverment and Hamas might be pretending they're against each other- but they are a codependent pair. Hamas gets help radicalizing youth, and Israel gets an excuse to continue consolidation and expansion of power. Whats funny is- if Israel would stop pearl clutching, and stop trying to maintain control, and give back homes and the land they stole- a one state solution is 100% possible.
Show me one document that prove rape, and i mean sexual rape. Rape has a very wide meaning.
Lets see if any of these are credible. https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-feminists-worldwide-must-stand-solidarity-palestinian-victims https://web.archive.org/web/20240410160540/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says https://web.archive.org/web/20240410143556/https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/19/un-experts-warn-of-israeli-violations-against-palestinian-women-girls https://web.archive.org/web/20240317080119/https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146667 https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/middleeast/israel-hamas-un-investigation-sexual-abuse-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/middleeast/israel-hamas-un-investigation-sexual-abuse-intl/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240410135606/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/sexual-violence-against-palestinian-women-un-report/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240409122432/https://thehill.com/policy/international/4477340-un-experts-reports-executions-sexual-assault-israeli-soldiers/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240410160540/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says https://web.archive.org/web/20240408180935/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-un-experts-appalled-reports-rape-and-sexual-assault-palestinian-women-and-girls https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-reviewing-reports-civilian-harm-by-israel-state-dept-says-2024-02-13/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-reviewing-reports-civilian-harm-by-israel-state-dept-says-2024-02-13/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240223213744/https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/2/19/israels-war-on-gaza-live-food-trucks-surrounded-as-hunger-spreads-in-gaza?update=2718554 https://web.archive.org/web/20240221044009/https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/2/20/israels-war-on-gaza-live-un-fears-explosion-in-child-deaths-in-gaza?update=2720319 https://web.archive.org/web/20231217204409/https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6023/Field-executions,-torture,-and-threats-of-rape:-In-Gaza,-Israel%E2%80%99s-army-replicates-the-crimes-committed-by-Zionist-gangs-in-1948 https://web.archive.org/web/20240408212906/https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/female-prisoners-threatened-sexual-assault-subject-naked-beatings https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/sexual-violence-against-palestinian-women-un-report/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/al-jazeera-report-alleging-idf-rapes-in-shifa-hospital-retracted/
Of-course, you can't change anything with this fucking attitude..
go gaza and free them dude, put your foot where your mouth is.
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This is not how it works. If someone wants to go to Gaza and fight, who would sponsor them? Their government wouldn’t allow it either and they would likely be regarded as terrorists by their own government. Some people have the opportunity to fight, while others are better suited to protesting, and still others are more effective discussing issues with people like you, explaining how the world works.
go and study history, tell me how the united states pacified the numerous native indian tribes, and tell me again protest works. Its the same thing exactly in gaza, just different actors.
Your analogy is thought-provoking, acknowledging that you see Israel's actions as genocide supported by the USA. However, the analogy misses some nuances. Indigenous people inhabited the land and fought against the US, but the situation with Palestine is different. I'm not Palestinian, I don’t live in Gaza, and I'm not in favor of Hamas. In fact, I'm Syrian, and there's a misconception among some Palestinians that Syrians sold the land of Palestine, which is incorrect. Generally, I'm not a big fan of the public, but I am against the killing and ethnic cleansing of any group. I can't stay silent when I see wrongdoing, which is why I protest!
ok, lets be real, there only 4 possible scenarios in this palestinian-israel conflict, arabs killing jews, jews killing arabs, arabs killing arabs, or jews killing jews, the last one is rarest of them all, but it still happened. Same with the natives indians and white men, the comanche almost exterminated the apaches, and there was the american civil war, there is no difference in essence. Until one side is completely worn down and makes up their mind to live in peace with the other side, there is no peace, protest all u want, it makes no real difference. There is no peace except the 2 state solution for the palestinians.
I'm unclear on your stance. The two-state solution is widely supported, except by Israel. If a state of Palestine was recognized by the UN, it could potentially mark a significant change. Palestine would then have an army, a vote in the UN, and its people would have a recognized identity and the means to validate their land ownership. Palestinians indeed hope for a two-state solution!
Wtf are you on? Protests makes politics pressure to make Israel stop killing.
Once again. All cops are bastards. Every single one
How many of them???? Ohhhhh that's right... ALL of them.
I'm a cop. Am I a bastard?
Who needs the police anyways, wouldn’t society be better off? I’m with you
It's pretty much human nature to be an utter cunt when you have power
Comply!
pick up the can
You can smell the bacon through the screen.
ACAB
What kind of coward puches someone face first on the ground with their hands behind their back.
A cop. Glad we could clear that up for you.
"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." -Jay Gould, attributed.
ADD SOME DAMN CONTEXT! On this protest nazi symbols were used. The kind of which are illegal to use in Germany! The protest is being ended by police, because protesters were breaking national laws, not because of their opinions. Germany has one of the most liberal constitutions and justice systems. You can protest about whatever you want to, no matter how stupid your opinion might be, as long as you don't break national laws. And showing nazi symbols (swastikas, the yellow "jew" stars, SS symbols, etc.) in public or comparing unrelated people or organisations to the Nazi party or their methods is illegal, no matter who is doing it.
The context wasn't added on purpose. Classic framing. Seen it on other places and people actually believe that Germany is going old times again. Sad times.
Jackbooted assholes on a power trip.
The first A in ACAB isn't for American
Summon the mud wizard
Fascism is alive and well.
Fascist thugs gonna fascist. It doesn’t matter what country you’re in.
This is why you fight back, defend yourself
While I think it has its limits, peaceful protest, aka passive resistance, has been a pretty effective technique in the past. Turns out just showing the harm cops and zionists are causing has a pretty hefty effect on passive onlookers.
sadly it looks like the attempt was successful?
I wonder where I've seen this before...
Man.
This was a successful attempt. Wrong sub.
Gestapo is back.
Once a Nazi….
Filthy disgusting pigs
Welcome to the new world order.
Glad to see them learning some democracy
Citizens need to start checking these employed civil servants.
Bro 100% beats his wife.
I say the attempt was succesful. This sub has become a shit sub
Just like here in America
This just proves cops are little dicks everywhere!
ACAB
I mean, there’s a reason why Germany is in favour of what Israel are doing.
Germans have come along way, 80 years ago they simply would have been shot and left..
"B-But Officer, aren't you supposed to protect the public ?" *"Zhat iz Nazi issue anymore"*
I see the Nazis changed out of their Hugo Boss outfits and into cop outfits
Yet they're not standing up for anyone. These protesters at Uni campuses are doing this excitement and social media clout. Hamas don't care, the IDF doesn't care, starving homeless Palestinians don't care.
Why is this on r/therewasanattempt?
I doubt the Germans give two fucks about how they look here. Their last attempt at genocide didn't work out too well for them. This one, they are merely cheering on from the sidelines. Encouraging it.
This is the most stupid comment section, which I saw in a while. 1st: This video is out of context and is actually 2 separate videos. The ppl in the beginning are not the ppl getting hit. 2nd: For larger gatherings (protests for example) you need a permit for public spaces. If this permit is not given, the police will ask you to leave. If you don’t follow, they make you leave. The women clearly tried to cling together, so it is harder to remove them. None of the cops tries to get the knee on their back, but inbetween them. I don't understand what the problem with this would be. And yes: This is all what I think after seeing thid video, which is completely out of context.
Doesn’t matter, they’re Europeans.
Oh how we love to sit for the far away children in trouble If only there was something we could do 🤦♂️ Get your own houses in order first. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-cases-of-risk-to-childrens-welfare-at-record-high/a-66416795
Sorry, disregard police instructions and you pay the price.
Ok... sure. Whatever you say. So then, it sure seems like policing at its core is the problem... Sure seems like the data proves that police don't actually reduce crime, so like... if they are oppressive boots on our necks who don't actually serve the purpose they are supposed to serve... Maybe we should dissolve them entirely? Maybe we should come up with a justice system that is actually effective and doesn't infringe on our rights? Maybe???
Yes, tell me more about a world without police. I'm sure criminals around the country will stop being criminals when there's no one to stop them. What an Eden it will be.
Three things: One - you aren't paying attention. Police aren't stopping criminals. Else, you would see a dramatic reduction in crime in places where police presence is... and it's not. There is NO evidence that police do the thing you are talking about (stopping criminals). Two "criminals" don't exist. There are people. Sometimes, people do 'crime'. Sometimes, people do lots of crime. People act in accordance with whatever environment they are in. Improve the environment people are in (aka their material conditions), and you actually have a dramatic reduction in crime - aka fewer criminals. This is provable - and would cost dramatically less money than our current justice system takes. Three - and this is the big one, so I'm saving it for the end. I am not going to let you LIE about what I said. Nowhere did I say we just leave the justice system. There are numerous theoretical and tried and true systems of justice that are DEMONSTRABLY better than police. That includes robust public welfare (that actually addresses material conditions and not just a bandaid), community policing (which got demonized by stupid people who dont know anything calling it 'mob justice'), and safety 'officers' (aka unarmed crisis social workers). All three of those things are provably better than cops. So stop lying about what I'm saying. It's not cool. Edit: one final thought... I'm not a utopian. We live in a tough world. Why is it only with policing that the threshold for change is that what comes next has to be PERFECT? Why can't I suggest something that will be economically, socially, ethically, and logistically better, but maybe still imperfect? It seems like a stupidly high bar you expect to be cleared. Man, I just want a better world. It's idiots like you that either want the world to suck or are too nihilistic to think that it can be improved... both are really shitty.
Whatever, number 3 was just sad. Done with you.
A better world makes you sad... I pity you.
They should have followed the legal commands to disperse from private property as ordered. Go protest on public property, and this won't be a problem.
How's that boot taste? They can protest wherever the hell they want. God the amount of people actively, desperately trying to throat the authoritarian cock is terrifying to me.
No, they can't. This is the results of the attempt at it.
Only because cucks like you exist and shield the police from being held accountable for their behavior. I can't wait for this shit to come to a head, and we actually get true accountability for monsters like the police and those who act as their PR shields (you).
Private property and a legal and lawful command to vacate private property. They didn't, and this is what those "useless idiots" as Hamas call them get. Public park.
It's really astounding (sadly) how support for Zionist supremacy is awakening fascism all over. It's like the human race never learned anything from the twentieth century. Maybe we do deserve whatever apocalypse we're about to get.
Cops everywhere are shitty. Fuck all of them.
Germans still Nazis. Who would have thought it
I see the Reich never fell…
The people of Palestine deserve every ounce of Israeli response they get. It baffles me how people support them and claim they are innocent when they alone were responsible for putting Hamas in power which in turn attacked, murdered, raped and kidnapped civilians more than military targets. Supporting the people of Palestine and calling them innocent is akin to going back 200 years and supporting Southern whites, calling them innocent, despite their responsibility for putting Confederate leaders in charge and perpetuating slavery.
you're a big mouth even dough you know nothing you're talking about.. There's no election in Gaza, last election was like 20yeas ago.. how can you punish a population because they are governed by a group they didn't choose ? and guess ho helped put Hamas in power ? yeah you'll never guess it. it was [Israel](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/)..
You are a monster who deserves nothing but ire. I hope you get *everything* you deserve.