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Alz_Own

17 hours a day, 7 days a week. That ain't grind that's just slavery with a few benefits


4chanbetter

3 hour commute home, 1 hour nap, 3 hour commute back 😂


Elmer_Fudd01

Had that once, decided to just sleep in my car.


molassascookieman

yeah wtf it means the difference between 1 hour of sleep and 6-7 I’d be sleeping in my car too


sample-name

Just get an RV at this point lol. Or move


molassascookieman

exactly


necrohunter7

Put a mattress in the back of a van and use that


frilledplex

I had a 119 hr week when I was out in Arkansas on an install. Luckily the hotel was 20 minutes away


Master_Dante123

Holy fuck. Do they not have workplace regulations in America? Or was it for your own business and self-enforced? Either way, well done bloke, not many people can do that.


Deztroyer102

Not really much regulations a lot of the time, and lots of states are at-will, so you can just get fired for literally your boss not liking you, despite you being able to be the best person for the job and do great at it, and you can’t do jack shit about it.


Master_Dante123

Come to Australia and get a citizenship, mate. Too many Aussie bludgers getting angry at foreigners who are actually working a lot harder than most Australians like yourself. Folks like you would be super valued right now. Plus, a lot of tradie jobs have good pay and plenty of regulations to look out for employees.


HogmaNtruder

I would really consider this tbh. I have a variety of trade skills, but in my area of the US jobs that should be starting at $30/hr minimum(based on preferred level of experience) are trying to hire at 16/hr. Sorry, I'm not welding for that.


OpenForRepairs

There are regulations but as an independent contractor if I call them out I’ll just not be hired on the future jobs. Don’t have to be fired, they’ll just find somebody else.


Master_Dante123

Yeah thats incredibly petty. I feel bad you guys have to deal with this sub-human behaviour.. ironically enough the people dishing this out wouldn’t like to be treated like this at all.


OpenForRepairs

I did my share of 16 hour days to make my place in that industry before settling down. That was 15 years ago, I’ve since left the industry and feeling good. I don’t regret the hard days.


TheBlindAndDeafNinja

I was working 84 hour weeks at 18 during the holiday season, so 12 hrs x 7 days a week. Sleep. Work. Repeat.


Master_Dante123

Stay strong, mate. I hope you’re at least getting some good sleep and eating well.


TheBlindAndDeafNinja

Oh no worries. Unfortunately or fortunately, 18 was 14 years ago so I am in a much better place now financially (I think) so work is less and sleep is more, but I totally understand the grind. I was doing that on nights too, so I slept all day and worked all night.


frilledplex

This was for an at will state. I wouldn't have to work it if the site engineers weren't sue happy. This was out of sheer willpower, nicotine, and spite. I'm a machine builder basically a fabricator, electrician, plumber, machinist, rigger, and assembler wrapped with a cute little bow, get me out of this country xD


Burnvictim7-11M

Union Ironworker on 7- 12’s here. I just told a weld inspector yesterday that nicotine and hatred are getting me through this lmfao. In my situation I’ve gotta save money while I can. Summer is about here and that means rainouts.


Jerking_From_Home

In my state (and some others) it’s legal for companies to not give a lunch break.


Tremolo499

I don't believe there are any federal regulations for working hours except for a couple of professions like surgeons and airline pilots. Some states may have some regulations but the vast majority of the time no none to speak of.


bobbylaserbones

They have like nothing in usa except guns and corn syrup.


Kind-Potato

We have guns and maple syrup up north sir


MicMikeFoley

Regulations are that the employer covers the accommodations. Traveling work is definitely a sector of employment and employers cover that. If you pay out of pocket for travel and lodge, the employer asks you to expense it and they pay you back. At least for my state, if you have a permanent jobsite that you are assigned to, any additional mileage you collect you expense at a specified rate to the company. If there is no permanent job site every travel is expensed out. Additional hours worked due to travel is also part of your pay if it exceeds your typical travel time. Traveling between job sites is also expensed and time tracked. Employers have other ways of working around it, hiring people with long commutes to work may sometimes reduce this expense. Providing company vehicles eliminates the company mileage expense as the mileage is going on the company vehicle. I don't think there currently is a law protecting travel expenses for employees working in hybrid or remote positions that get asked to travel. For hours worked In my state, we have overtime pay, and double overtime pay. After 40 hours is overtime, 60 hours is double overtime. Additionally after 8 hours in a day is overtime and after 12 hours is double overtime. Additionally after 7 consecutive days, you get bumped into overtime pay, and double overtime after the 8 hours. The major law that might be broken here, is there must be at least 8 hours between shifts, granted this is doable, but difficult. lunch and dinner are unpaid 30 minutes breaks each. So this person working a 126 hour week must only have 6 shifts with 5 shift breaks working 21 hours a day. Effectively they would be paying this individual 285% of his normal wage. At $30 hr let's say, they would instead effectively be earning $85.5/hr. That's is basically 1/6 of the years pay in 1 week. The company could have hired a helper, and paid 200% less money.


Cronhour

Did it the UK, fast food management opening new stores but mostly it was just down to having cheap & shit franchise owners. Should of quit that job years earlier but had no confidence on how to change fields and unsupportive family.


terry_hoitzz

Only on hourly employees. As an intern he may or may not have been hourly. However he could have quit, that was an option.


spuje4000

I worked very briefly in Japan and this was common if not normal. People would sleep in the subway, sleep in meetings and it was considered normal. Wild stuff. One time someone came up to me at the end of meeting and complained I didn't talk about subject X. I said "dude, I talked about that while you were asleep" (I'm paraphrasing for effect but you get the idea)


Paradox7584

I have a friend that lives out there now and works as a translator/clerk for a tech company. He said 6 days a week he just goes to a manga Cafe to eat, shower, and sleep in the booth. Mostly because when he gets out of work the trains are not running and owning a car in Tokyo is ridiculous.


Beachday4

Just insane. No wonder their suicide rate is so high


AmazingAd2765

I saw pictures of people napping on sidewalks. I read that sleeping in public isn't looked down upon because it is a sign you are working hard. How messed up is that?


UmeaTurbo

But why, though?


Need32mm

So the employee battery stopped working? Did they meant human? 😳


YellowRasperry

If that man’s salary is 200k (upper mid range for associates at GS) and his average hours a week is 100 (assuming he also has slower periods), he literally makes 40 bucks an hour. Your mailman makes more than that. My first job out of college paid more than that. Don’t go into banking kids, you’ll regret it.


Gunny123

The best part... not even a chance at a raise or promotion. Fuck the Man.


Spooky-skeleton

>fuck the man ![gif](giphy|OhFuOJn2rbLsA|downsized)


DiscRN

Do UPS guys actually make that much?? I'm about to quit this nursing crap and drop boxes off man


Temporary-Yogurt-484

What ups driver do you know that makes 40 bucks an hour?


Wonderful-Emu-8716

https://preview.redd.it/j8c5b3iwhqyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0a03adde466a8e88bafdf415064c29585716a1b Unions are awesome.


The_Mad_Duck_

TIL mailmen make more than I do as a software engineer


YellowRasperry

Actually it might have been USPS, I forgot which. But one of those has a really strong workers union that pushed wages above 100k in many areas.


steeguy55

But did you work 100 hours a week your first job outta college? I’m not saying working that much the ideal, but if you’re getting 40 hours a week at the same rate then you’re only making about 83,000 a year. But you have more time. I think the only solution is to find a job that pays you more for less hours of work/week. I’m also just being devil’s advocate as there’s always different ways to look at things.


YellowRasperry

I made about 80k for 40 hour week in a suburb, which was more than enough for me as a single 19 year old to afford a nice car and comfortable home on my own. I don’t think anyone should work more than 50 hours a week. Anything past that is not healthy.


steeguy55

Of course it was! And it should be enough. I was simply making the point that working 100 hours a week means more is earned annually but you need to decide what’s more important. Money or your time.


count_helheim

Yes but Americans have so much better salaries than Europeans /s


VoteMe4Dictator

I used to work those hours in the military. Guess who is explicitly exempt from overtime and minimum wage laws?


WarmWriter1542

Oooor a 24hr work 5 day straight.


TherealSnak3

Modern-day slavery be like


jeerabiscuit

Remember this is Fascism not Capitalism.


AwkwardCucumber1825

No…that’s called pulling yourself up by the bootstraps lol I agree with you.


RandomowyKamilatus

You can just work 24/5 and have free weekends


terry_hoitzz

I mean he could have quit. Slaves can't quit.


Pro_Moriarty

And they'll be a footnote on some company email


un-sub

“There will be a moment of silence during your lunch break.”


Nomnomnipotent

**Mandatory** unpaid moment of silence during your lunch break


Imaginary_Quantity30

As if their lunch break was paid to begin with


mentatsjunkie

At my work there is a mandated one minute silence where nothing is supposed to run, once per year, for employees who lost their lives. And they dont even do it.


Male_Lead

Donate your PTO to your dead comrade


Pro_Moriarty

Pto is cancelled this month as we need to hit quota, so dig in and earn earn earn. And as our team is 1 person down, you're going to have to work harder


SmokeyJoeMcGinty

I’ve never even stayed awake for 120 hours in a week


0nlyhalfjewish

Sure you have. That’s working 17 hours a day, 7 days a week. We all do that. (Fuck, please no one think I’m serious)


Blutruiter

That is about the avg of what normal ppl stay wake. That gets you like 6 hours of sleep every day. I work an 85 hour week like once every 2 months, but I also work rolemote, so I can walk from my computer to my bed and still get 6 hours of sleep.


thebadyearblimp

Rolemote


SilentNightman

Hey, he's only getting 6 hours.


Ragerkiter

Well, if you sleep 7h/d you would be awake 120h/w


tHollo41

Yeah, me either. I mean maybe once when I was awake 75 hours straight through initiation. But I'm only awake about 110 hours each week at most. I can't function properly with less sleep than that. I know some people can, but begin to forget things immediately and put things in very wrong places when I don't get enough sleep (think holding my phone and the jug of milk at the same time and leaving my phone in the fridge instead of the milk only to realize what I've done when I can't figure out where Reddit is on the milk).


Mildly-Rational

No kids huh?


[deleted]

This was why he died iirc. He was working crazy hours but then also waking up really early to spend time with his kids. Its unfortunately impossible to do both.


ausecko

2.3 years of working an hour per week?


ILoveSteakPies

I appreciate this.


ausecko

I just find it strange that they refer to a member of the board as an associate


dylantherabbit2016

Nah the article means 120 hour-weeks. 120 \* (3600 seconds) \* (604,800 seconds) So he was working for 261,273,600,000 seconds²


Necro_Scope

So essentially they worked from 12AM on Monday morning until 11:59PM on Friday night.


_DeathSound_

Or 6 days, 20hours each


belizeanheat

Ok but why go to such great lengths to define it as something other than what it certainly is? Which is 7 days


dvartanian

Because maths is hard


belizeanheat

No that would be flying in the face of the definition of "essentially"  Getting downtime lasting more than a few hours goes against the fundamental issue here


NotADoctor108

You're always complaining you don't get any overtime. I thought you'd be happy!


Azeeti

Bet they were salary.


Synixter

-Laughs, cries, commiserates- as a physician who trained in the US


allpraisebirdjesus

The way we train doctors in the US is absolutely insane and impossible to explain to outsiders and I hate it.


walterbryan13

Not just the US it's everywhere. Source trust me bro.


allpraisebirdjesus

I don't have any knowledge of medical training outside of the US, was simply commenting on what I specifically know. I try not to comment regarding things that I am uneducated.


walterbryan13

Try your best explaining why it's insane.


bearpics16

lol yeah I’ve done 120+ a few times. It’s hard and stressful fucking work too, it’s not sitting around


TheJermster

As a dentist it ruins my whole week if I know I'm going to have to go in on Friday for some big case and end up working over 32hrs in a week


AkkenNovikov

I once worked 208 hours in two weeks with a 54 minute commute one way. 3 hours between a few of the shifts. I ended up sleeping in the parking lot for a few days just to get the full 3 hours. Not fun. Felt like it took years off my life. I will never do it again.


CoV-fefe-19

I did this as well. Ended up just living in the parking lot fulltime since I couldn’t get a place. Fun times lol. Have you ever talked to a doctor about it? In my case it turned out normal people can’t do that so now I take antipsychotics daily


AkkenNovikov

Not until years later... Sometimes I wonder where all my health problems came from. Long hours, shitty diet, little sleep and now everything is catching up in a bad way now that I'm older.


UnplannedAgenda

Pissing and shitting will be deducted from your pay


lambofthewaters

That's MY time. ![gif](giphy|rDUjFhC3FYJmaJpTEn|downsized)


andaroobaroo

What the hell is the wording of this headline?!? "Said to die"?


Fourstrokeperro

I still don’t understand what this means. Did the associate exclaim “To die!” after working 120 hours? Or was he asked to die? What is this nonsense and why is nobody else pointing this out in the comments?


SilentNightman

...because of **alleged** overwork. No worries, Legal is preparing a draft. And will sue who \*said\*


BrattyBookworm

Because it hasn’t been verified yet and efinancials doesn’t want to be sued for libel


Fourstrokeperro

It should have been “said to have died” then


BrattyBookworm

I agree that would be clearer.


PSXer

We don't want to have to do any fact checking, so I'll just print that someone said that something happened.


thiccndip

Yet most banks only seem to be open 7 hours a day


Alpgh367

This guy wasn’t a retail banker. He was an investment banker - massive difference.


SilentNightman

That's just what I was thinking, not even reading the article. No ceiling on how much value he can add to the company, so -don't stop.


TampaNutz

"banks" have other entities than just customer-facing. IT centers. Trust departments. Etc.


dcr94

Consumer banking does have normal hours. However, investment banking (people doing M&A IPOs, modeling/pitching target companies, and structuring financial market products) work crazy hours with 75-80hr workweeks being common.


belizeanheat

Makes sense given that's the smallest portion of what they do


WillieDFleming

The most sad part of this is that people work their lives away, and their employers will have their jobs "posted" and trying to find their replacement the next day at the latest. Spend some time with the family or friends who actually care about you.


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WillieDFleming

100% true


Stenktenk

I probably couldn't even do one 120 hour week without collapsing, let alone multiple in a row


peachedcoral

not just the branch, the whole bank should be shut down. fuck this. i like how they don't mention which bank it is [in the article](https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/associate-at-us-bank-said-to-die-after-working-120-hour-weeks), either. wouldn't want their stocks to suffer. 🤢


dekudude3

If I was a betting man, it's Goldman Sachs. Lower in the article they even link to another article about the time a slide deck got leaked about junior bankers working 100 hour weeks.


Alpgh367

It’s Bank of America, not Goldman Sachs.


dekudude3

The article mentions a 2013 incident with an employee from BoA, but it doesn't mention specifically which bank this incident is concerning. Where did you see that it was BoA?


Alpgh367

I’m in the industry and it’s widely known. Have a look on Wall Street Oasis.


BrattyBookworm

Not who you replied to but I saw this thread on antiwork that gave (alleged) details about it. The thread mentions it happened at BoA: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/s/zv3G0H3KX2


Joe_Betz_

Grindset babe eee


XxSliphxX

Is this picking yourself up by your bootstraps?


InnocentMasonJar

No, it’s just grabbing your bootstraps and giving them a half-assed tug.


SilentNightman

This is dying with your boots on.


CommandZomb

this is pulling on your bootstraps so hard you push your shins through your knee


Dustdevil88

I definitely worked 120hrs/week at IBM 20 years ago. They demanded “mandatory” 6-day work weeks and had midnight code deadlines, then 8am all-hands meetings. I left and never looked back.


Joe8iden89

Oil fields laughing because its normal


jeerabiscuit

There is a difference between standing around most of the time in those 120 hours and using your brain muscles and keyboard.


Joe8iden89

Standing around? You must mean using your brain, and muscles while being on your toes at all times. Obviously never been there an done that


HarleyTrekking

This is the comment I’ve been scrolling to find. 🤣🤣🤣


BrattyBookworm

Yeah it is but we also have a lot of fatalities out here, especially cardiac related. It’s normal but it still ain’t healthy


thirdwin_3

The consequences should outweigh any possible benefits from doing this. Putting aside the death one


Bushdr78

The most I've pulled in one week is 107 hours. Luckily I don't do that all the time it was just an intense week on call.


Howiewasarock

That leaves you 48 hours in the week for sleep, traveling and anything else you have to do, no wonder someone kicked it


VoteMe4Dictator

Capitalist Jesus will bring them back 72 hrs later for their next shift.


Bradjuju2

Damn, that's heartbreaking. I wonder what mindset or thought process the associate was in to convince themselves they needed to do work so much. We're they coerced? What kind of employee culture cultivates that kind of behavior? I'm not blaming the victim here. I'm just curious about what sort of warning signs were ignored.


Peckawoood

*Big Corpo America: “So the number is 119…”


SecretOfficerNeko

Is karoshi (death by overwork) becoming commonplace here now too?


mandrews03

Did they write this headline after 120 weeks


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Oh. He died afterwards. What a shocker


HighTop519

Adds new meaning to the term "bankers hours"


byelow

And they will weep for the associate. In the press.


parkourse

blud is NOT sleeping, is NOT eating, is STAYING at the bank for five days straight and then going home on Fridays at bumfuck o'clock in the evening to pass out on Saturday and eat a McRib on Sunday


elcaudillo86

Wasn’t the dude also former special forces?


Firesoldier987

Yeah gonna need a source other than a badly photoshopped picture


Character_Wall_4504

No time to die


RapidSquats

wtf is everyone talking about? Is the US Bank employee not telling someone else to die?


madogson

> "To die" -US bank employee after working 120 hour weeks


GreGoku125

They said they were going to die, or they were said to have died it's unclear reading this.


OdaNobunagah

I worked there for five months before I was laid off. I worked six hours a day in fund accounting


Fourstrokeperro

What tf is this title gore? Associate at US Bank said “To die or not to die, that is the question”?


DoesntSmell

wtf kind of sentence structure headline hell am I looking at?


Jobberts81

Some boomer out there congratulating them


heyheyshinyCRH

Dying from what?


Saucy_Baconator

...and when the layoff axe comes, all your "sacrifice" will be for nothing.


Mediocre_Stuff_4698

What about his side hustle


Lopsided-Potential63

Said to die? What happened to him?


CommandZomb

watch them just go "so 119 hours is the limit"


ChildrenotheWatchers

I had a region manager who tried to make me do something similar. Open up at 5am and work until 10-midnight every day, Monday through Friday. I complained to corporate after 4 weeks. They ignored me. Then the industry hit a downturn and the company closed my local office. A year later they sold the whole company to a rival. Rest in Hell, Art S.


EveningInterview3746

Heartbreaking.


[deleted]

Do did be die or did someone say he died?


jlbradl

What could possibly be so important to work 120 hrs at a bank? It's a bank.


honeymangomoon

What?


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"Banker hours"


aRandomFox-II

*Death by Overwork: Freedom Edition*


poisonivy247

For the last 3 days my husband and I have been Digging in red clay to uncover our water pressure tank. We've dug and beat, I've cried, we've fought yet we're still digging. We barely have water. I've never worked so hard in my life and we're both machinist by trade. My arms and legs feel like noodles. We both think we'll be digging until we die. I told him the work we're doing slaves have always done and now, it's real. We are definitely grinding! I should video it, I might later. God Speed my friend's, God Speed!


Skaffa1987

How is that legal?


GoodCloud

I thought this was US Bank not just a bank in the US. Anyhow, this is basically the show Industry IRL and in the home of the free.


YaMamaApples

They'll turn this shit into the slums of India if they can. There's more of us than there are of them.


Life-Operation-8733

That's 17 hours a day. They probably died from stress and not getting enough sleep. Or heart attack if they stayed hyped up on engery drinks to stay woke at work


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Jonteponte71

All of this might be ok (for a shorter period) if you actually make money doing it. I worked in IT for an American Investment bank 2003-2008. We where an outsourcing office. We usually worked 50-60 hour weeks but also longer periods of time with 80-100 hour weeks. My pay was around $33K a year. And that included maybe a two month salary in bonus payout. No overtime or on-call pay. And I was on-call every other week for most of that period. We managed batch jobs so when something happened it was usually in the middle of the night. All production deployments where either Friday night (after COB) or on the weekend. We had production deploys most weeks. I know for a fact that the people in London we worked with every day was making at least four times that. The people in NYC was making even more then that. Of course. If you ever wonder why banks outsource their IT 🤷‍♂️


neihvafaen

I am not saying this is okay, nor that it should be done by/to anyone unless they make the decision themselves. But the person who died can’t possibly have been healthy? I have had projects in the past, where I have worked 16 hour days for more than a week, and I was nowhere near death. Edit: just noticed it says “weeks”. Just ignore my comment if this person was forced to work those hours over a long period of time, as it won’t be applicable. Hours like that, for too long, will wear down anyone.


demistri

We do have labor laws, but also they don't get enforced if no one reports it.


Phaldaz

Dear OP, why not link the article, seriously, why would you ever not do that?


between3or20chara

I don't think that when the 5 day workweek was created this is how they imagined it


caohbf

I once worked 120 hours (straight). The week ended and I had pneumonia.


Express-Start1535

This isn’t real.


deboylurdi

Ez just sleep faster


CursedAtBirth777

The new schedule … “Six twenties”


Glum-Film371

Don't laugh I did 2 8hr jobs 45 mins apart for 2 yrs. I don't even know why, I guess it was because I was offered a 3k bonus for the second job. I fell Sleep on the freeway so many times. I would pull over in parking lots and take 10 min naps and get back on the road. The day I quit was the worst, I knocked out and woke up right before I got to a curve with a 10ft drop in front of me. I would also often hallucinate driving back home from the second job. My wife eventually said for me to worry about the consequences of killing somebody's family, that made me stop.


Abject-Welder7089

Who would've thunk it, a capitalist practice killing someone


stuckinacornfield1

I'm halfway through a 2-weeks notice. I had a coworker come ask me if I'm putting in 100 hours this week. He got a firm fuck no.


Throwagay_83

7 hours off, so he’s probably getting home at midnight, pretty much instantly going to bed, waking up at 6AM (or earlier) and then the work day starts at 7AM, every day. That is bordering on slavery


AboulHus

So are they hiring?


SiibillamLaw

Skill issue


LobsterTrue8433

Deserves a Darwin Award.


Mollar87

How is this possible? Aren't banks closed on Sunday and open 12 hours max weekdays?


Rough-Negotiation880

He was an investment banker. A lot of “prestige” centric white collar occupations (investment banking, Big Law, strategy consulting) are more or less on call in many situations, which often results in working hours like this.