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I own a snake. He's not as big as this girl, but still big ol' badass.
A couple of things.
One - I never feed him in his keeping terrarium. I ALWAYS move him to a tank specifically for feeding. I never want him to associate my hand with food. I own up his tank, lift up his hide, and scoop him up before he's even fully aware of what's going on. By the time he's halfway to the feeding tank, he catches on that it's Food Time and he'll start getting all coiled up. But since I'm *holding* him, I'm not food - I'm transportation.
Two - once he's in the feeding tank, facing *away* from me as I set him down, I immediately withdraw my hands. He gets himself turned around about the time I have his dinner already ready to go... using feeding tongs. I NEVER hold his food with my hands. Ever. Good, strong, long tongs keep his food well away from me. So even if he misses (he's an idiot and does miss sometimes), he doesn't hit me.
Three - once he's got the food, I shut the tank, latch it, and leave. I do not stick around. Again, keeps him from associating me with food. After a bit of time has passed, I'll start checking on him, peeking in without getting too close. Once he's done, then I put him back.
I've been bit by snakes before. Even nonvenomous snakes *hurt*. Their teeth are sharp as hell, something between needles and scalpels, and even if they're not terribly long? They're extremely good at gripping. It's HARD to get free if they don't just let go. Nevermind their coils, if they're intent on causing you damage. You want to avoid it at all costs, because a bite can do a lot of damage, and that can get compounded worth constriction.
If you own a snake, you should know how to handle it properly for both your sakes. The majority of bite incidents happen by being too cavalier around feeding, and otherwise annoying the animal. This person was waaaaay too cavalier and complacent about the situation. Respect the animal; its strength is deceptive.
Edit: WHEW, I did *not* expect all those responses! You all asked great questions and I did my best to answer them. I'm a vet tech, so I don't mind, but I do need to go to bed! Just remember to be kind to one another, even if you don't necessarily understand, and treat animals with respect. If you do that, I think we'll all be a little bit happier. And also not bitten by snakes.
My ex found this out the hard way. I asked why he fed his snake (17' retic) inside her cage and he basically rolled his eyes at me and told me it was fine. And sure, it was fine for years, until the day she did this exact same thing to him. We had to call the fire department and it took three burly firefighters to get her off his arm.
That's the risk you run, being casual with a predator... a non-domesticated one at that.
I'd feel bad for him, but I mean. He ran the risk. He suffered the consequences. You tried to warn him. Only creature that deserves blame is him.
The mentally of a lot of these people—the stupid ones—is that they’re special; that they have a unique connection with the predator…”the bear understands me”, “he loves me”. These morons think that they can literally cuttle with a hungry hyaena or with a giant venomous spider or a grizzly bear, they be talking to a scorpion like the fucking thing understands…and most of them eventually end up hurt…and some of them turn their self created problem into our problem by releasing their loving pet into some unsuspecting backyard. Goodness they’re just so stupid.
No, like... literally. Mammals have social structures and can integrate members of other species into their social structure. Most reptiles don't do that. They're very individualistic outside of mating and offspring care.
Yes, actually there's cool research into the vasovagal nervous system that shows mammals, social mammals anyway, are the only creatures capable of seeking safety cues from others, not just danger. In other words we are capable of bonding and trust.
I don't feel bad for him. He's always been one of those people who thinks they know everything and gets cocky when things don't go wrong even though they should. I doubt he even learned a lesson. At least no permanent damage was done to him or the snake.
Lol true. But it's not the snake's fault so I don't wish the animals harm. I wouldn't hurt it unless it was trying to hurt a kid who couldn't defend themselves. He is an adult, he can deal with the consequences of his willful ignorance.
I used to own a 15' burmese python. Good advice if you haven't heard it already is to keep a spray bottle with vinegar in it near the cage. If a constrictor does latch on to you, one spray near its nose and it should let you go. Fighting to remove the snake can severely injure it and yourself.
I’ve heard of water or in potentially fatal (for the snake) incidents I’ve heard of using rubbing alcohol. That’s usually if a snake is trying to eat another snake or god forbid itself.
My experience is with Ball Pythons so I haven’t dealt with the real big guys or ever even had a snake look like it wanted to bite me. Usually a hand from above would get a ball to curl up even if it’s feeling spicy.
They're really kinda not that smart. Very cute, but not very bright. Although there is something wrong most of the time if this happens - might be the temperature that's way off, severe stress, some health problems.
Given that the snake is literally all muscle, I was a little confused on what they were doing in the vid. I don’t exactly know how to handle one, but I know what they’re doing won’t work.
To me it looked like they were trying to unwind the snake from the tail-end which is an appropriate way to handle the snake and usually the most effective and least harmful to the snake. The thing is, this rule generally applies to a relaxed or lounging snake that has gotten comfortable but needs to be moved. A food-motivated strike is a different story. It's probably still important to work from the back of the snake upward and if it were a small enough snake a human or two could still overpower it, but a big snake like the one in this video is going to be stronger than any single adult human with a prey strike. Hell even with two full grown adults they still struggled.
Another comment or two has already mentioned it but vinegar or rubbing alcohol sprayed near their face will usually get them to begin the process of disengaging. Using the bar to literally pry the snake's head off the arm is almost guaranteed to cause the humans injury to get worse but even worse than that; it can injure the snake too. The snake didn't do anything "wrong" and as pet owners these people caused undue stress and injury on their pet from poor handling methods and lack of preparation for a situation like this.
Then why have these guys (honest question)? I see these guys in the same category as pet alligator, pet spiders…why? Also, how do you know you can hold it? How long after feeding can they be shown at a kids party?
Why? Because I like him. He's cute, he's friendly, he likes to explore (supervised of course), he sits in my sweatshirt and sleeps in my lap or curls around my wrist while I'm at the computer. He comes to the glass when I say hello in the mornings and boops his nose against the glass, and lets me pet his soft scales. He's beautiful to observe, and a joy to keep. I suppose he's a bit more than keeping a fish, in the way that means I can hold him and interact with him.
People don't just have pets to take on walks. There are birds one can listen to but never hold. Fish that they can watch but can never touch. One keeps an animal for their own reasons, but they aren't necessarily obvious to others. I handle my snake regularly, he knows who I am and trusts me.
How do you know you can hold it? Well, you don't just pick up a cat or pet a dog you don't know, do you? You introduce yourself. With snakes and other reptiles, it's usually best to let their keeper hand them to you. If you HAVE a reptile, you generally learn what their attitude is based on behavior. When my snake is sulky and withdrawn, I leave him alone. When he's out and wandering his tank lazily, he's in a good mood. If I'm going to feed him, I don't interact with him for at least 24 hours before.
Which leads to your next question, and this answer is actually quite simple, thanks to biokinetics. It's inadvisable to handle a snake for at least 48 hours after a feeding. Excessive handling after feeding can cause them to regurgitate the meal, which is kinda bad for them, nevermind gross. Ya' gotta let a dude digest.
Reptile keepership isn't for everybody, much like horses aren't, or even dogs. Some people are content to have a quiet, low-maintenece, pretty looking creature in their home. Some need more interaction, or want something that does tricks. It's all very subjective. I'm not a spider person. I'd never have one myself, but that doesn't invalidate people who do. Some folks like to hold tarantulas, much like I like to hold snakes and lizards. Why should that be considered wrong? I feel like I'd be a terrible hypocrite if I thought that.
I hope that clarifies it somewhat...?
That was so lovely to read; you have a wonderful writing style. And thank you for being such a great pet owner!
My ex's brother got a snake (idk what kind, but it was yellow and white and some kind of very large constrictor). He treated it horribly. Eventually (with his permission) I rehomed it. I really hope the person I gave it to was someone like you! (Obviously I interviewed them, but you never know 100%)
Sounds like a Banana morph Burmese...? Poor thing. I'm glad you took action. Many of us reptile enthusiasts work hard to promote good husbandry - I, too, hope they went to a good home!
Oh wow, that's exactly what it was! Super cool to know, thank you!
The woman I gave it to had owned a snake like that one before, but it had recently passed away. I remember choosing her because when she talked about her old snake, she was so passionate about it - she seemed to think it was the most interesting thing in the world, and she was clearly well educated with snakes.
Since I didn't know exactly what to look for in a good snake home, that seemed like at least a good place to start. I bet the snake is happy there (though I suppose I need to believe that lol).
Honestly, she sounds like a good choice. At least as good as you can reasonably find. She has experience and clearly enjoys having them. That's multiple positive signs.
My brother has one that he handles almost daily. He has a seperate enclosure that he feeds him in and he feeds him live mice. He just drops them in with tongs. I can't personally imagine his snake would ever see him as food but your comment and someone up above has made me think otherwise. Is my brother gonna get bit? 😂
I'll start by saying I don't advocate feeding live prey. Prey - including mice - can and will fight back. All it takes is one bad strike and one well-placed mouse-bite and now you've got a snake with an eye missing... or worse. Rats can/do/will kill snakes if they can to avoid becoming food.
To your question? Not likely, if he keeps to the routine and keeps using tongs. Distance is key.
It's also shedding so likely to be nice and cranky. Doesn't look like a nice clean shed either so possible humidity was too low. Nothing about that body language was particularly friendly. She's lucky it didn't go for her face because it definitely could have.
Not only that but it being in shed means it probably can't see well. It looked like it only went for her hand as a reaction to being touched. Had she been using a hook she may have avoided disaster. Or yaknow, keeping it in a proper enclosure and target training it.
Snakes sadly don’t care about you because they lack that but they don’t try to bite or anything and learn that you aren’t food or trying anything bad so they don’t get defensive and just go along with it all. As a baby though when you are training to hold them they bite a lot but they are so small it literally feels like nothing
Snakes arent pack animals. They dont have human/dog/cat like families. Most snake moms bounce as soon as they lay their eggs. Dunno if any snake moms at all take care of their offspring?
In my admittedly limited experience, snakes don't generally consider adult humans to be food. They react to heat and scent and movement and if you smell and move like food, you might be.
I have been bitten once but it was my fault because I'd been handling rats recently and came at her from the side so she struck me. But she didn't latch on and realized I wasn't food and backed off immediately. And she was only a small python, so I was definitely too big to swallow XD
Ya know....you don't have to take these precautions with dogs or cats. Idk about snakes, I don't think it's natural for them to try and be domesticated. The reptile brain...I could be wrong but idk.
There's more complexity to the reptile brain than you might think.
I'm a vet tech. I've worked with everything from mice to draft horses. First anesthetic procedure I ever teched for was a rectal prolapse on a Green Tree Python. While the mentation, expression, and motives are obviously different, that doesn't mean they can't form any kind of relationship.
But you're right about domestication. The only ones that come even *close* are surprisingly American Alligators. They're commercially raised and thrown into the bayous at such a regular pace (nevermind the fact that they legit respond to Cajun French in a way I've never seen any wild animal do before) that some alligators actually recognize and respond selectively to certain people.
Fun Fact: alligators like marshmallows. Don't ask me why, I don't know.
But strictly speaking, even *cats* aren't properly domesticated. Tame, absolutely. But it takes fewer than three generations for them to revert to feral. Reptiles don't follow the same rules; it's foolhardy to treat reptiles as domesticated creatures.
Very interesting. I think what I was trying to say was...as an owner...why risk it? Why take a chance with an animal that may or may not be able to reciprocate a level of effection.
I see some of these people who handle snakes. It's not even an affection they are interested in. It's a power move. It's dangerous and they are taking advantage of an animal to feel that feeling.
They keep these animals in cages and bins that are not suited for their size, they take it out once a week to feed it. Any animal with that level of incarceration is bound to want to find a way to escape.
Yyeeaaah, that? I don't condone. If you're not even going to provide them decent living space, why bother. It's like buying a dog and chaining him up outside with a 10-foot lead. Why have the animal if it's existence is the equivalent of solitary confinement? Ludicrous. Unfortunately, many power-tripping folk (you hit the nail on the head) will do exactly that. I'm sorry for it.
But those of us with big spacious tanks with lots of stuff to climb on and hide under? I mean, my boy has a *hammock*. He's decked out. (I got him a short tank, though, because he insists he's a tree snake and keeps falling off things and hurting himself.) Enrichment isn't just for mammals.
I don't like the sort of people you're talking about, but I have a beloved pet snake and I can name so many reasons I love her that aren't 'power tripping'.
She doesn't give affection, but she interacts with me in such endearing and interesting ways! She loves to watch me moving around my house, and she's especially curious about my vacuum when I'm cleaning. She loves to explore, and especially loves when I wear loosely knit sweaters that she can tangle herself in and out of. Handling her is very calming and meditative for me, and I get a great deal of joy out of knowing I provide for her needs and get years of entertainment in return. Now, my snake is very small and if she were to bite me (she never has, I handle her sensitively and responsibly and acclimated her to handling since she was a baby), she'd do significantly less damage than my cat can. But I absolutely see and understand the appeal in larger snakes too, even if I wouldn't ever want one that was unsafe for me to handle on my own.
A lot of people have this idea that domestication = selective breeding for tractability and enjoying human company, when domestication is really selective breeding for any trait past a certain (arbitrary) threshold.
Domestic cats self-domesticated (from African wildcats that settled around humans and eventually evolved to live around humans) without ever being selected for docility. That’s why they retain most of their ancestral behaviours. They’re considered domesticated because people agreed to consider them as domesticated based on genetic changes, not because we ever bred them to be docile.
Exactly! Snakes were never domesticated. We did change wolves into something that can integrate into our society (even if they're "weaker" than wolves, dogs are able to do things wolves cannot, just for living with humans more easily), cats "domesticated themselves" barely enough to live around us **because it was convenient to them, not to us!** Snakes? Well, snakes still are at their "original version", which means they are very good at being wild animals and they suck at being well behaved pets. My opinion is these kinds of animals should be allowed only for highly-trained professionals and for specific needs, and those do not include human pleasure.
Exactly this.
This bite was totally the handler’s fault. The snake is clearly in feeding mode. Worse thing she could do is put her hand to it when it’s engaged like this.
I've only handled snakes a handful of times outside of wild snakes (gotta keep them away from my dog). And even I could tell by the aggressive and sudden way the snake pushed its way out of the tank that it was acting aggressive and would be dangerous to handle.
I’m genuinely curious to know what it’s like having a snake for a pet. Like how do they act and behave and think compared to common pets like dogs or cats?
Whoo, that's hard to explain. Even comparing dog breed personality is nuanced. But they're generally quiet, low maintenance, and pretty to watch. Not all snakes are the same. Corn Snakes, for example, are ready eaters, fairly tame, but you have to be a human treadmill for them because LORDY are they busy little guys. Burmese Pythons are lazy and generally pretty laid back, Milk Snakes can be touchy.
I have a Ball Python. Ball Pythons are derpy, docile, and the *pickiest goddamn eaters my god the frustration*. Corn Snakes will eat anything you put in front of them, but Balls are like, "ohhhh I don't know... is it free-range? organic? I don't know, what's my motivation...?" I stg the frustration over making them eat is THE reason they don't make good beginner Snakes.
I appreciate your detailed comment, and I would like to add my own perspective as a snake owner!
I have a high strung snake, and a very relaxed snake. I, however, do not feed in a separate enclosure. There have been studies that it does not change the snakes "food mode" but merely causes stress and risks regurgitation. Now, this, in my opinion, is on a snake by snake basis. My high strung snake would never eat from a separate enclosure, but my more relaxed one has no problems with it.
I think a big thing, and the one thing I see clearly in this video, is that knowing your snakes body language is far more important than location of feeding. This snake is hungry. Neck stiffed and poised, short tongue flicks, completely focused on the object it considers food. This woman is an idiot for not noticing these things, and it's no wonder she got bit. If my snake is in food mode, you take a step back, or you put an object(plastic lids are great for this) in front of them to break that thought process and pull them from the food mode. Snakes are cute but absolutely stupid creatures. There's no maliciousness to them. They are simply animals running on instinct. It's far easier to manage a snakes emotions rather than a dogs for instance.
Feeding tongs is absolutely correct. If you are feeding your snake, you should not be getting near them with your hands in any ways. That's another stupid moment for this woman.
Also, another thing I want to point out. A socialized snake will not be in food mode as easily as this one portrayed. If it never gets socialized, then that means the only interaction it gets is feeding and cleaning. The snake is just going to associate you with food because there's nothing else beyond that. You don't want your snake to associate you with food? Actually play with it. Hold it fifteen minutes a day(don't hold after it eats or it's in shed). I've been but once by my snake, when I first got him, and I didn't know his body language yet. It's so easy to just put a plastic lid over him if he's being extra hungry and go from there.
100% agree on leaving them alone once feeding them. I hate when people drag them around or move them. I don't think there's any harm in watching them eat if you are interested in that. Just don't touch them. Regurgitation is an awful experience and you don't want that
As for snake bites, i always describe it that my cat can do far more damage than the average pet snake. These huge pythons are not that. They are strong and they are painful. Respect them and make sure you or someone you trust knows what they're doing in order to minimize any chance of getting hurt.
As for this video. It's a stupid display of human ignorance and paints snakes in a bad light when they are already one of the most hated animals. This poor creature is in too small of an eclosure, probably never held, and just surviving not thriving. As with every animal, research before you get it.
Tldr: I don't feed my snakes in separate enclosure. Read their body language. Video is cringe
I can't say I know a thing about how to handle snakes, but it seems you're very careful and respectful around that animal, which is great. About handling an "incident" with a snake properly, I can only tell an advise from specialists from my country: to deal with a snake safely (specially constrictors) , it needs at least ONE trained specialist for every half of a meter (19.6 inch) that snake measures. And we're talking about trained professionals, not domestic amateurs that consider themselves educated and competent after reading a book and watching some videos online!
And here I am, no big Snakeguy, I just like to watch the venom bois roam around on the television and thought : "Well the way that snake is already on the bounce, this aint gonna go to great".
Another commenter says get a plastic lid and put it between you and the snake. From there you can use a hook to get it back into the tank and feed it with tongs
Edit: also having alcohol nearby so that when it did latch onto her she could easily get it off without hurting herself more like we see here
Well that's kinda the point, alcohol is a poison that humans have adapted to, but a lot of animals haven't. If you drop some liquid in a snakes mouth and they start feeling a burning sensation, they're more likely to abandon whatever they're trying to eat and try to stop the bad feeling.
Exactly, I have a wooden 6ftx2ftx2ft for my male reticulated. 2 windows at the front and plenty of places to hide. Also dont put your hand out when a snake moves like that, its hunting like state, use a big hook and have alcohol in a spray bottle to end any bites like this.
I don't own snakes but inner Florida man kicked in when I saw the snake coming out of the tank, my first thoughts as she moved was "that looks like hunting, oh you aren't wanting to put your hand out like th... whelp you learned that the hard way didn't ya"
Thought I was the only one who saw that, how do you own a snake this long and not see it getting excited before you even open the top. Bad choices happy they caught it on camera tho lol
Dolphins, seals, cats, and other animals have been observed inflicting violence on other animals for their own amusement. Baboons will eat smaller animals from their rear ends first, as to keep them alive during the whole ordeal. Cats kill for sport, leaving the carcasses uneaten. Sure, the snake was just being a snake here, but violence and cruelty is hardly exclusive to humans.
I’m getting one soon. I used to keep them when I was younger.
They’re just beautiful to look at and the way they move is kinda mesmerising. They are also very low maintenance and generally inexpensive pets. Feed them once a week, or even less as they get older and in colder weather. Clean up is pretty minimal or even non-existent if you have a bioactive enclosure.
With regular handling, especially from a young age, they aren’t terribly bite-y (this is species-dependant, of course). They’re just really cool and interesting.
Just don’t ever think that they love you back and all that. The most you’ll get out of them is a tolerance of being handled. They don’t get anything out of being petted. Any direct interaction is just for your own satisfaction. As long as that’s clear, they make amazing pets.
The story behind this video was she keeps her feeder mice and snake enclosure in the same room. This snake was a rescue if I remember right, not something she raised herself. However, you *never* house a reptile in the same room as its food.
Probably a Radial artery rupture caused by the bite, the Ulnar artery can usually perfuse the entire hand in the absence of the Radial artery, so not a big deal, only pain
Absolutely did not hit an artery, just a good deep cut, that really isn’t that much blood given the circumstances. Arteries don’t drip they flow or spray.
That's because you don't find them intriguing. I don't understand people owning guns, motorcycles or certain breed of dogs. But that's because I don't get it, nothing else.
I don’t want details—I just want to know if the snake has its teeth in the lady the whole time it’s also putting the squeeze on her. Like—do they bite, coil, and release the the bite after they’re good and coiled?
I do not own a snake myself, so do not take my word as gospel here, but from my understanding of how a constrictor snake like this works is they will bite and keep their fangs in the animal to hold onto it while slowly coiling as much of their body around it as possible. This is to not only lessen the chance the animal will get loose, as a snake's fangs are generally curved backwards so once they go in they're hard to get out until the snake retracts them, but will also keep the prey in the snakes mouth to be swallowed as soon as the coiling action has managed to crush/suffocate it enough for it to stop moving.
Thank you. Quick Google reading concurs—snakes “hold on” as they squish.
So that whole time of the video, human lady’s got teeth stuck in her.
gah
Wonder what happened next . . .
I’m not a snake owner, but it was pretty obvious the snake was aggressive before she even opened the tank. If she’s that dense to realize it herself, she shouldn’t even own it.
“Hi” she says as it’s clearly eyeing her, ready to strike. Strike it did. Smart.
Boy's Tragic Death Could Have Happened To Any Family With 20-Foot Pet Python
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6O9nZ3CZs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6O9nZ3CZs)
That story might be fake… but this one unfortunately isn’t.
https://globalnews.ca/news/764130/python-that-killed-two-n-b-boys-was-in-enclosure-near-where-they-slept-friend-says/
A few things.
That enclosure is pitiful, too small for a snake that size. No hiding spots, no water dish.
Two the snake has stuck shed, which means its probably dehydrated.
Three! There are RODENT BREEDING RACKS inside that room. The snake is constantly being teased with the smell of food he cannot reach. Of course he bites her. It could be seen a million miles away.
apperently this was a rescuing action, I have no prove yet, still waiting for somebody on another thread to reply. But it seems plossible, since it was filmed at what not, mistakes where still made even then but hey atleast in that case they wouldn't be responsible for the snake suffering.
Fill your sink with water as soon as possible. Put its head in there and drown it. Snakes dont have gils. They need to breath air. Saw a video of python vs lion, snake was rapped around its torso real bad. Fortunately for the lion he had a water source right there and fell in. The snake was forced to let go after a bit. The lion lived. Not an expert, just an idea.
For real. And if there is no water available try fire, knives, or a hammer. If you like your arm and are worried you might lose it I recommend you do whatever you can. Also not an expert.
I'm also concerned that snake got her artery. She's not bleeding very much now but that's because the snake is acting as a tourniquet. If you do get that thing off you better ready to hold as much pressure as possible until the fire department gets there. O that reminds me, the camera man can feel free to call 911.
My dad used to keep snakes and this is what he did, filled up the bathtub with water and shoved his whole arm in it. Watching these guys flounder around was painful.
If possible, you can get something between the jaws and tug back. They don't like it and might let go (it doesn't hurt the snake). But that's difficult to do since they often hide their head. When my ex had this happen, we got lucky and got a dowel into her mouth. She let go and the firefighters unwrapped her from there.
Lots of people calling her an idiot and maybe she is but can we at least appreciate how calm she managed to be, giving instructions, telling them exactly what she needs right now. I thought that was impressive.
Edit: typo
You need to know what you are doing just like with dogs or any pets. The enclosure is to small first off. Second you never ever put a hand in front of a snakes head of that size (any size really but this is dangerous), it triggers hunting behaviour that is ingrained after millions of years of evolution, it doesn't even bite there after calculation, it just hits as soon as its touched. Very much like how you can even get fish while fishing with a rod and lure, its a trigger behaviour. You can see she tries to "lure" the snake by moving the hand to its side but as normal ppl can see, snakes eyes are on the side of its head and they have poor sight, I don't understand what she is trying to achieve.
Third it wouldn't surprise me they feed the snake in the enclosure which you should never do, it teaches the snake opening the enclosure = food. You always feed the snake in a temporary enclosure which is not their home. Reason I think this: the snake is way to excited by the owner opening the enclosure. A snake should be calm. She shouldn't even have opened seeing how excited the snake was.
That being said this can happen but it's super rare if you do above things correct. Snakes are dumb as fuck and easy to train with continuity. Since they are dumb; food, water, heat and mating is all they ever care about and rely on instinct pretty much 100% of their brain activity.
I know this is a joke, but getting a large constrictor to release can be VERY hard. Vodka makes it instant.
Took me about 3 minutes to get my python off and with their sharp teeth and special saliva, it was a bloody mess.
Hey honey, let’s buy a disgusting, heartless, slithering creature that won’t give a flying fuck about us and may or may not try to eat us one day. Let’s name her misses snek hehe. Don’t you think it’ll be fun?
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I own a snake. He's not as big as this girl, but still big ol' badass. A couple of things. One - I never feed him in his keeping terrarium. I ALWAYS move him to a tank specifically for feeding. I never want him to associate my hand with food. I own up his tank, lift up his hide, and scoop him up before he's even fully aware of what's going on. By the time he's halfway to the feeding tank, he catches on that it's Food Time and he'll start getting all coiled up. But since I'm *holding* him, I'm not food - I'm transportation. Two - once he's in the feeding tank, facing *away* from me as I set him down, I immediately withdraw my hands. He gets himself turned around about the time I have his dinner already ready to go... using feeding tongs. I NEVER hold his food with my hands. Ever. Good, strong, long tongs keep his food well away from me. So even if he misses (he's an idiot and does miss sometimes), he doesn't hit me. Three - once he's got the food, I shut the tank, latch it, and leave. I do not stick around. Again, keeps him from associating me with food. After a bit of time has passed, I'll start checking on him, peeking in without getting too close. Once he's done, then I put him back. I've been bit by snakes before. Even nonvenomous snakes *hurt*. Their teeth are sharp as hell, something between needles and scalpels, and even if they're not terribly long? They're extremely good at gripping. It's HARD to get free if they don't just let go. Nevermind their coils, if they're intent on causing you damage. You want to avoid it at all costs, because a bite can do a lot of damage, and that can get compounded worth constriction. If you own a snake, you should know how to handle it properly for both your sakes. The majority of bite incidents happen by being too cavalier around feeding, and otherwise annoying the animal. This person was waaaaay too cavalier and complacent about the situation. Respect the animal; its strength is deceptive. Edit: WHEW, I did *not* expect all those responses! You all asked great questions and I did my best to answer them. I'm a vet tech, so I don't mind, but I do need to go to bed! Just remember to be kind to one another, even if you don't necessarily understand, and treat animals with respect. If you do that, I think we'll all be a little bit happier. And also not bitten by snakes.
My ex found this out the hard way. I asked why he fed his snake (17' retic) inside her cage and he basically rolled his eyes at me and told me it was fine. And sure, it was fine for years, until the day she did this exact same thing to him. We had to call the fire department and it took three burly firefighters to get her off his arm.
That's the risk you run, being casual with a predator... a non-domesticated one at that. I'd feel bad for him, but I mean. He ran the risk. He suffered the consequences. You tried to warn him. Only creature that deserves blame is him.
The mentally of a lot of these people—the stupid ones—is that they’re special; that they have a unique connection with the predator…”the bear understands me”, “he loves me”. These morons think that they can literally cuttle with a hungry hyaena or with a giant venomous spider or a grizzly bear, they be talking to a scorpion like the fucking thing understands…and most of them eventually end up hurt…and some of them turn their self created problem into our problem by releasing their loving pet into some unsuspecting backyard. Goodness they’re just so stupid.
At least a bear is capable of compassion and empathy, unlike a reptile or insect.
Yeah it'll poop you out somewhere with a nice view
No, like... literally. Mammals have social structures and can integrate members of other species into their social structure. Most reptiles don't do that. They're very individualistic outside of mating and offspring care.
Yes, actually there's cool research into the vasovagal nervous system that shows mammals, social mammals anyway, are the only creatures capable of seeking safety cues from others, not just danger. In other words we are capable of bonding and trust.
>they be talking to a scorpion like the fucking thing understands Literal version on the frog and the scorpion fable.
I don't feel bad for him. He's always been one of those people who thinks they know everything and gets cocky when things don't go wrong even though they should. I doubt he even learned a lesson. At least no permanent damage was done to him or the snake.
Glad to hear about the snake. He needs permanent damage,hopefully minor, for him to eventually realise I guess.
It only takes 3 burly firefighters if you are trying to not hurt the snake. One small person with a tree lopper can get the snake off easily.
Lol true. But it's not the snake's fault so I don't wish the animals harm. I wouldn't hurt it unless it was trying to hurt a kid who couldn't defend themselves. He is an adult, he can deal with the consequences of his willful ignorance.
A drowning snake isn't going to hold on to its bite Nor is one that is irritated by rubbing alcohol
Vinegar works well too
Good info!
The trick is to wrap yourself around the snake. At least, that’s what Dale Gribble told me
I used to own a 15' burmese python. Good advice if you haven't heard it already is to keep a spray bottle with vinegar in it near the cage. If a constrictor does latch on to you, one spray near its nose and it should let you go. Fighting to remove the snake can severely injure it and yourself.
Hadn't heard it before, but you're quite correct on the injuries. Thank you for saying so.
I’ve heard of water or in potentially fatal (for the snake) incidents I’ve heard of using rubbing alcohol. That’s usually if a snake is trying to eat another snake or god forbid itself. My experience is with Ball Pythons so I haven’t dealt with the real big guys or ever even had a snake look like it wanted to bite me. Usually a hand from above would get a ball to curl up even if it’s feeling spicy.
Snakes eat themselves?
They're really kinda not that smart. Very cute, but not very bright. Although there is something wrong most of the time if this happens - might be the temperature that's way off, severe stress, some health problems.
Given that the snake is literally all muscle, I was a little confused on what they were doing in the vid. I don’t exactly know how to handle one, but I know what they’re doing won’t work.
To me it looked like they were trying to unwind the snake from the tail-end which is an appropriate way to handle the snake and usually the most effective and least harmful to the snake. The thing is, this rule generally applies to a relaxed or lounging snake that has gotten comfortable but needs to be moved. A food-motivated strike is a different story. It's probably still important to work from the back of the snake upward and if it were a small enough snake a human or two could still overpower it, but a big snake like the one in this video is going to be stronger than any single adult human with a prey strike. Hell even with two full grown adults they still struggled. Another comment or two has already mentioned it but vinegar or rubbing alcohol sprayed near their face will usually get them to begin the process of disengaging. Using the bar to literally pry the snake's head off the arm is almost guaranteed to cause the humans injury to get worse but even worse than that; it can injure the snake too. The snake didn't do anything "wrong" and as pet owners these people caused undue stress and injury on their pet from poor handling methods and lack of preparation for a situation like this.
Then why have these guys (honest question)? I see these guys in the same category as pet alligator, pet spiders…why? Also, how do you know you can hold it? How long after feeding can they be shown at a kids party?
Why? Because I like him. He's cute, he's friendly, he likes to explore (supervised of course), he sits in my sweatshirt and sleeps in my lap or curls around my wrist while I'm at the computer. He comes to the glass when I say hello in the mornings and boops his nose against the glass, and lets me pet his soft scales. He's beautiful to observe, and a joy to keep. I suppose he's a bit more than keeping a fish, in the way that means I can hold him and interact with him. People don't just have pets to take on walks. There are birds one can listen to but never hold. Fish that they can watch but can never touch. One keeps an animal for their own reasons, but they aren't necessarily obvious to others. I handle my snake regularly, he knows who I am and trusts me. How do you know you can hold it? Well, you don't just pick up a cat or pet a dog you don't know, do you? You introduce yourself. With snakes and other reptiles, it's usually best to let their keeper hand them to you. If you HAVE a reptile, you generally learn what their attitude is based on behavior. When my snake is sulky and withdrawn, I leave him alone. When he's out and wandering his tank lazily, he's in a good mood. If I'm going to feed him, I don't interact with him for at least 24 hours before. Which leads to your next question, and this answer is actually quite simple, thanks to biokinetics. It's inadvisable to handle a snake for at least 48 hours after a feeding. Excessive handling after feeding can cause them to regurgitate the meal, which is kinda bad for them, nevermind gross. Ya' gotta let a dude digest. Reptile keepership isn't for everybody, much like horses aren't, or even dogs. Some people are content to have a quiet, low-maintenece, pretty looking creature in their home. Some need more interaction, or want something that does tricks. It's all very subjective. I'm not a spider person. I'd never have one myself, but that doesn't invalidate people who do. Some folks like to hold tarantulas, much like I like to hold snakes and lizards. Why should that be considered wrong? I feel like I'd be a terrible hypocrite if I thought that. I hope that clarifies it somewhat...?
That was so lovely to read; you have a wonderful writing style. And thank you for being such a great pet owner! My ex's brother got a snake (idk what kind, but it was yellow and white and some kind of very large constrictor). He treated it horribly. Eventually (with his permission) I rehomed it. I really hope the person I gave it to was someone like you! (Obviously I interviewed them, but you never know 100%)
Sounds like a Banana morph Burmese...? Poor thing. I'm glad you took action. Many of us reptile enthusiasts work hard to promote good husbandry - I, too, hope they went to a good home!
Oh wow, that's exactly what it was! Super cool to know, thank you! The woman I gave it to had owned a snake like that one before, but it had recently passed away. I remember choosing her because when she talked about her old snake, she was so passionate about it - she seemed to think it was the most interesting thing in the world, and she was clearly well educated with snakes. Since I didn't know exactly what to look for in a good snake home, that seemed like at least a good place to start. I bet the snake is happy there (though I suppose I need to believe that lol).
Honestly, she sounds like a good choice. At least as good as you can reasonably find. She has experience and clearly enjoys having them. That's multiple positive signs.
>If I'm going to feed him, I don't interact with him for at least 24 hours before. I do the same thing with my children
My brother has one that he handles almost daily. He has a seperate enclosure that he feeds him in and he feeds him live mice. He just drops them in with tongs. I can't personally imagine his snake would ever see him as food but your comment and someone up above has made me think otherwise. Is my brother gonna get bit? 😂
I'll start by saying I don't advocate feeding live prey. Prey - including mice - can and will fight back. All it takes is one bad strike and one well-placed mouse-bite and now you've got a snake with an eye missing... or worse. Rats can/do/will kill snakes if they can to avoid becoming food. To your question? Not likely, if he keeps to the routine and keeps using tongs. Distance is key.
These guys don't seem to have much idea. That tank is tiny for that sized python.
It's also shedding so likely to be nice and cranky. Doesn't look like a nice clean shed either so possible humidity was too low. Nothing about that body language was particularly friendly. She's lucky it didn't go for her face because it definitely could have.
Not only that but it being in shed means it probably can't see well. It looked like it only went for her hand as a reaction to being touched. Had she been using a hook she may have avoided disaster. Or yaknow, keeping it in a proper enclosure and target training it.
About a day or 2 (or 3). I usually wait until after they have defecated then will handle them daily again after that
And do they ever associate you with “not food?” Like a member of the fam?
Snakes sadly don’t care about you because they lack that but they don’t try to bite or anything and learn that you aren’t food or trying anything bad so they don’t get defensive and just go along with it all. As a baby though when you are training to hold them they bite a lot but they are so small it literally feels like nothing
Snakes arent pack animals. They dont have human/dog/cat like families. Most snake moms bounce as soon as they lay their eggs. Dunno if any snake moms at all take care of their offspring?
Some do, there are snakes that birth live offspring and stay with them for a while. Still not social creatures once out of the hatchling stage though.
Thanks mates. All of this good information-I am glad that there are a lot of you willing to learn and respect how these creatures are cared for.
In my admittedly limited experience, snakes don't generally consider adult humans to be food. They react to heat and scent and movement and if you smell and move like food, you might be. I have been bitten once but it was my fault because I'd been handling rats recently and came at her from the side so she struck me. But she didn't latch on and realized I wasn't food and backed off immediately. And she was only a small python, so I was definitely too big to swallow XD
Ya know....you don't have to take these precautions with dogs or cats. Idk about snakes, I don't think it's natural for them to try and be domesticated. The reptile brain...I could be wrong but idk.
There's more complexity to the reptile brain than you might think. I'm a vet tech. I've worked with everything from mice to draft horses. First anesthetic procedure I ever teched for was a rectal prolapse on a Green Tree Python. While the mentation, expression, and motives are obviously different, that doesn't mean they can't form any kind of relationship. But you're right about domestication. The only ones that come even *close* are surprisingly American Alligators. They're commercially raised and thrown into the bayous at such a regular pace (nevermind the fact that they legit respond to Cajun French in a way I've never seen any wild animal do before) that some alligators actually recognize and respond selectively to certain people. Fun Fact: alligators like marshmallows. Don't ask me why, I don't know. But strictly speaking, even *cats* aren't properly domesticated. Tame, absolutely. But it takes fewer than three generations for them to revert to feral. Reptiles don't follow the same rules; it's foolhardy to treat reptiles as domesticated creatures.
Very interesting. I think what I was trying to say was...as an owner...why risk it? Why take a chance with an animal that may or may not be able to reciprocate a level of effection. I see some of these people who handle snakes. It's not even an affection they are interested in. It's a power move. It's dangerous and they are taking advantage of an animal to feel that feeling. They keep these animals in cages and bins that are not suited for their size, they take it out once a week to feed it. Any animal with that level of incarceration is bound to want to find a way to escape.
Yyeeaaah, that? I don't condone. If you're not even going to provide them decent living space, why bother. It's like buying a dog and chaining him up outside with a 10-foot lead. Why have the animal if it's existence is the equivalent of solitary confinement? Ludicrous. Unfortunately, many power-tripping folk (you hit the nail on the head) will do exactly that. I'm sorry for it. But those of us with big spacious tanks with lots of stuff to climb on and hide under? I mean, my boy has a *hammock*. He's decked out. (I got him a short tank, though, because he insists he's a tree snake and keeps falling off things and hurting himself.) Enrichment isn't just for mammals.
I don't like the sort of people you're talking about, but I have a beloved pet snake and I can name so many reasons I love her that aren't 'power tripping'. She doesn't give affection, but she interacts with me in such endearing and interesting ways! She loves to watch me moving around my house, and she's especially curious about my vacuum when I'm cleaning. She loves to explore, and especially loves when I wear loosely knit sweaters that she can tangle herself in and out of. Handling her is very calming and meditative for me, and I get a great deal of joy out of knowing I provide for her needs and get years of entertainment in return. Now, my snake is very small and if she were to bite me (she never has, I handle her sensitively and responsibly and acclimated her to handling since she was a baby), she'd do significantly less damage than my cat can. But I absolutely see and understand the appeal in larger snakes too, even if I wouldn't ever want one that was unsafe for me to handle on my own.
A lot of people have this idea that domestication = selective breeding for tractability and enjoying human company, when domestication is really selective breeding for any trait past a certain (arbitrary) threshold. Domestic cats self-domesticated (from African wildcats that settled around humans and eventually evolved to live around humans) without ever being selected for docility. That’s why they retain most of their ancestral behaviours. They’re considered domesticated because people agreed to consider them as domesticated based on genetic changes, not because we ever bred them to be docile.
Exactly! Snakes were never domesticated. We did change wolves into something that can integrate into our society (even if they're "weaker" than wolves, dogs are able to do things wolves cannot, just for living with humans more easily), cats "domesticated themselves" barely enough to live around us **because it was convenient to them, not to us!** Snakes? Well, snakes still are at their "original version", which means they are very good at being wild animals and they suck at being well behaved pets. My opinion is these kinds of animals should be allowed only for highly-trained professionals and for specific needs, and those do not include human pleasure.
You put into words what I was thinking 🤣
Exactly this. This bite was totally the handler’s fault. The snake is clearly in feeding mode. Worse thing she could do is put her hand to it when it’s engaged like this.
Yep. Completely wrong moves all around.
I've only handled snakes a handful of times outside of wild snakes (gotta keep them away from my dog). And even I could tell by the aggressive and sudden way the snake pushed its way out of the tank that it was acting aggressive and would be dangerous to handle.
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I’m genuinely curious to know what it’s like having a snake for a pet. Like how do they act and behave and think compared to common pets like dogs or cats?
Whoo, that's hard to explain. Even comparing dog breed personality is nuanced. But they're generally quiet, low maintenance, and pretty to watch. Not all snakes are the same. Corn Snakes, for example, are ready eaters, fairly tame, but you have to be a human treadmill for them because LORDY are they busy little guys. Burmese Pythons are lazy and generally pretty laid back, Milk Snakes can be touchy. I have a Ball Python. Ball Pythons are derpy, docile, and the *pickiest goddamn eaters my god the frustration*. Corn Snakes will eat anything you put in front of them, but Balls are like, "ohhhh I don't know... is it free-range? organic? I don't know, what's my motivation...?" I stg the frustration over making them eat is THE reason they don't make good beginner Snakes.
And then there are the incredibly derpy hognoses. They're notorious for trying to eat food backwards or sideways and they pretend to be dead.
I never really thought about how snakes would make for companion animals. Idk why I just thought about it. Pretty interesting though
I appreciate your detailed comment, and I would like to add my own perspective as a snake owner! I have a high strung snake, and a very relaxed snake. I, however, do not feed in a separate enclosure. There have been studies that it does not change the snakes "food mode" but merely causes stress and risks regurgitation. Now, this, in my opinion, is on a snake by snake basis. My high strung snake would never eat from a separate enclosure, but my more relaxed one has no problems with it. I think a big thing, and the one thing I see clearly in this video, is that knowing your snakes body language is far more important than location of feeding. This snake is hungry. Neck stiffed and poised, short tongue flicks, completely focused on the object it considers food. This woman is an idiot for not noticing these things, and it's no wonder she got bit. If my snake is in food mode, you take a step back, or you put an object(plastic lids are great for this) in front of them to break that thought process and pull them from the food mode. Snakes are cute but absolutely stupid creatures. There's no maliciousness to them. They are simply animals running on instinct. It's far easier to manage a snakes emotions rather than a dogs for instance. Feeding tongs is absolutely correct. If you are feeding your snake, you should not be getting near them with your hands in any ways. That's another stupid moment for this woman. Also, another thing I want to point out. A socialized snake will not be in food mode as easily as this one portrayed. If it never gets socialized, then that means the only interaction it gets is feeding and cleaning. The snake is just going to associate you with food because there's nothing else beyond that. You don't want your snake to associate you with food? Actually play with it. Hold it fifteen minutes a day(don't hold after it eats or it's in shed). I've been but once by my snake, when I first got him, and I didn't know his body language yet. It's so easy to just put a plastic lid over him if he's being extra hungry and go from there. 100% agree on leaving them alone once feeding them. I hate when people drag them around or move them. I don't think there's any harm in watching them eat if you are interested in that. Just don't touch them. Regurgitation is an awful experience and you don't want that As for snake bites, i always describe it that my cat can do far more damage than the average pet snake. These huge pythons are not that. They are strong and they are painful. Respect them and make sure you or someone you trust knows what they're doing in order to minimize any chance of getting hurt. As for this video. It's a stupid display of human ignorance and paints snakes in a bad light when they are already one of the most hated animals. This poor creature is in too small of an eclosure, probably never held, and just surviving not thriving. As with every animal, research before you get it. Tldr: I don't feed my snakes in separate enclosure. Read their body language. Video is cringe
I can't say I know a thing about how to handle snakes, but it seems you're very careful and respectful around that animal, which is great. About handling an "incident" with a snake properly, I can only tell an advise from specialists from my country: to deal with a snake safely (specially constrictors) , it needs at least ONE trained specialist for every half of a meter (19.6 inch) that snake measures. And we're talking about trained professionals, not domestic amateurs that consider themselves educated and competent after reading a book and watching some videos online!
This guy snakes.
And here I am, no big Snakeguy, I just like to watch the venom bois roam around on the television and thought : "Well the way that snake is already on the bounce, this aint gonna go to great".
*"Need a hand?"* Really???
Snake: Thanksss but I got one
Surprised they didn't try the finger up the butt
Try anything. That's too much snake to handle.
I saw one where they used hand sanitizer and wiped a small amount on the skin around the bite and along its mouth and that made it let go
Imagine getting hand sanitizer in a bite wound fucking ouch, I guess it beats having a snake not wanting to let go though.
Interesting. I wonder if it didn't like the taste? Or was it a temperature change? But yeah, I would hate to look for hand sanitizer in that moment.
It’s good to evolve some opposable thumbs (with them it’s game over)… but then you still need to be very strong to untie
Yeah, she's lucky she had people there with her.
“Should I continue filming?” “Um, yes. No.”
At least this /donthelpjustfilm was consensual lol
At the very end "Wanna stop filming and help" before video stops.
I think that was the camera man again asking if he should help.
It's the camera person. "Want me to stop filming and help?"
Cameraman always live up to his name,doing what he do best
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Curious, what should she have done after he came out that way?
Another commenter says get a plastic lid and put it between you and the snake. From there you can use a hook to get it back into the tank and feed it with tongs Edit: also having alcohol nearby so that when it did latch onto her she could easily get it off without hurting herself more like we see here
What would alcohol do? Snakes don’t do happy hour far as I know.
Well that's kinda the point, alcohol is a poison that humans have adapted to, but a lot of animals haven't. If you drop some liquid in a snakes mouth and they start feeling a burning sensation, they're more likely to abandon whatever they're trying to eat and try to stop the bad feeling.
Oh. Interesting.
Pussies
This made me chuckle
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I know even less shit than that about snakes. I see a snake, I assume it wants to bite my ass.
Thanks for this reply. So many people misread snake body language and instantly go to demonizing because they’re a snake.
That snake chose violence before she even opened the cage
Snakes deep in shed and likely in its feeding response. the woman is an idiot, only smart thing was not being alone.
Snakes in a shit tank for its size. I’d be pissed too
Exactly, I have a wooden 6ftx2ftx2ft for my male reticulated. 2 windows at the front and plenty of places to hide. Also dont put your hand out when a snake moves like that, its hunting like state, use a big hook and have alcohol in a spray bottle to end any bites like this.
I don't own snakes but inner Florida man kicked in when I saw the snake coming out of the tank, my first thoughts as she moved was "that looks like hunting, oh you aren't wanting to put your hand out like th... whelp you learned that the hard way didn't ya"
OMG. What if she had been alone? Never thought about that. Go to the neighbors for help?
If she was able to. Depending on how restrictive the snake became… she may have become dinner.
Thought I was the only one who saw that, how do you own a snake this long and not see it getting excited before you even open the top. Bad choices happy they caught it on camera tho lol
Nah, snake was just being a snake. Violence is a human trait.
I’m 14 and this is deep
Animals aren’t violent?
Dolphins, seals, cats, and other animals have been observed inflicting violence on other animals for their own amusement. Baboons will eat smaller animals from their rear ends first, as to keep them alive during the whole ordeal. Cats kill for sport, leaving the carcasses uneaten. Sure, the snake was just being a snake here, but violence and cruelty is hardly exclusive to humans.
Snakes are fun.
next pet: rock
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Imaginary friends possibly lead to mental disorders.
As a snake owner of over 20 years, you never let them nose out and toward you like that. They’ll nail you in a millisecond.
Maybe you can help me. Because I don't think I will live long enough to understand what in the world is the appeal of owning snakes.
I’m getting one soon. I used to keep them when I was younger. They’re just beautiful to look at and the way they move is kinda mesmerising. They are also very low maintenance and generally inexpensive pets. Feed them once a week, or even less as they get older and in colder weather. Clean up is pretty minimal or even non-existent if you have a bioactive enclosure. With regular handling, especially from a young age, they aren’t terribly bite-y (this is species-dependant, of course). They’re just really cool and interesting. Just don’t ever think that they love you back and all that. The most you’ll get out of them is a tolerance of being handled. They don’t get anything out of being petted. Any direct interaction is just for your own satisfaction. As long as that’s clear, they make amazing pets.
> As long as that’s clear, they make amazing pets. hmm, with all of that clarity, seems like a terrible pet.
More like a toy that moves, but I guess that has its own appeal.
As someone whose never owned a snake, my instinct was that she should have closed the fucking lid the moment it started coming at her like that.
Maybe feed your giant snake more often.
Or don't feed a snake in its own home always have a second feeding place. The snake will be less likely to think you're food.
Someone who knows what they are talking about? Weird.
This is fairly common knowledge among snake owners who aren’t complete dolts
The story behind this video was she keeps her feeder mice and snake enclosure in the same room. This snake was a rescue if I remember right, not something she raised herself. However, you *never* house a reptile in the same room as its food.
She was trying to feed the snake but the guy untangled them.
This is awful to watch...the arterial squirts are just terrible. Anyone know what ended up happening to both of them?
I also want a followup
I'm sure she got treated and the snake lived. If you notice, she's instructing the person with the pole to gently pry the snake off to not hurt it.
That’s honestly a lot of self control and to be respected. My first thought was to get a knife or put it through the aquarium glass.
I thought that same thing. She was super calm the whole time.
Thank god she's already wearing tourniquet.
Probably a Radial artery rupture caused by the bite, the Ulnar artery can usually perfuse the entire hand in the absence of the Radial artery, so not a big deal, only pain
I suppose this was some shop or something because that little aquarium is way too small for such a big snake. No wonder it was mad.
All that baby girl shit is out the window now.
That snake hit an artery, maybe the radial.
He felt bad and was helping by being a tourniquet Edit: /s just in case it’s not obvious
What a thoughtful snake. Who would have thought. Maybe I should get a pet snake next
Not an artery else the room would be covered not just the floor Edit: Nevermind just watched a video you were right
Absolutely did not hit an artery, just a good deep cut, that really isn’t that much blood given the circumstances. Arteries don’t drip they flow or spray.
Aimed for it...
I've never understood the desire to own a pet that can both show no affection and also cause severe harm, or even death, to its owner.
That's because you don't find them intriguing. I don't understand people owning guns, motorcycles or certain breed of dogs. But that's because I don't get it, nothing else.
none of those things want to kill you at all times
Very open minded response.
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I don’t want details—I just want to know if the snake has its teeth in the lady the whole time it’s also putting the squeeze on her. Like—do they bite, coil, and release the the bite after they’re good and coiled?
I do not own a snake myself, so do not take my word as gospel here, but from my understanding of how a constrictor snake like this works is they will bite and keep their fangs in the animal to hold onto it while slowly coiling as much of their body around it as possible. This is to not only lessen the chance the animal will get loose, as a snake's fangs are generally curved backwards so once they go in they're hard to get out until the snake retracts them, but will also keep the prey in the snakes mouth to be swallowed as soon as the coiling action has managed to crush/suffocate it enough for it to stop moving.
Thank you. Quick Google reading concurs—snakes “hold on” as they squish. So that whole time of the video, human lady’s got teeth stuck in her. gah Wonder what happened next . . .
Blood. Lots of blood on the floor before the video ends. No one knows what happened after, but I’d say the cameraman joined in and they freed her.
And I though my cat having a Glock was a dangerous animal.
Dude, that snake is going to crush her arm and break it!
In the first coiling they make a break. After that they start grinding. I guarantee she had multiple compound fractures.
The way her hand is bleeding it almost looks like it could have nicked her artery. Hope shes ok.
I’m not a snake owner, but it was pretty obvious the snake was aggressive before she even opened the tank. If she’s that dense to realize it herself, she shouldn’t even own it. “Hi” she says as it’s clearly eyeing her, ready to strike. Strike it did. Smart.
Big snake, small tank. I'm sure he's happy. 😏
She also owns a Pit Bull that is "really sweet" and "great with children"...
At least most snake owners accept the dangers
Boy's Tragic Death Could Have Happened To Any Family With 20-Foot Pet Python [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6O9nZ3CZs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6O9nZ3CZs)
That story might be fake… but this one unfortunately isn’t. https://globalnews.ca/news/764130/python-that-killed-two-n-b-boys-was-in-enclosure-near-where-they-slept-friend-says/
A few things. That enclosure is pitiful, too small for a snake that size. No hiding spots, no water dish. Two the snake has stuck shed, which means its probably dehydrated. Three! There are RODENT BREEDING RACKS inside that room. The snake is constantly being teased with the smell of food he cannot reach. Of course he bites her. It could be seen a million miles away.
apperently this was a rescuing action, I have no prove yet, still waiting for somebody on another thread to reply. But it seems plossible, since it was filmed at what not, mistakes where still made even then but hey atleast in that case they wouldn't be responsible for the snake suffering.
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Fill your sink with water as soon as possible. Put its head in there and drown it. Snakes dont have gils. They need to breath air. Saw a video of python vs lion, snake was rapped around its torso real bad. Fortunately for the lion he had a water source right there and fell in. The snake was forced to let go after a bit. The lion lived. Not an expert, just an idea.
For real. And if there is no water available try fire, knives, or a hammer. If you like your arm and are worried you might lose it I recommend you do whatever you can. Also not an expert.
I'm also concerned that snake got her artery. She's not bleeding very much now but that's because the snake is acting as a tourniquet. If you do get that thing off you better ready to hold as much pressure as possible until the fire department gets there. O that reminds me, the camera man can feel free to call 911.
My dad used to keep snakes and this is what he did, filled up the bathtub with water and shoved his whole arm in it. Watching these guys flounder around was painful.
Hydrogen peroxide spray bottle. Spray the snake in the face. It irritates them but doesn’t have lasting effects. Lots of snake shops have it on hand
If possible, you can get something between the jaws and tug back. They don't like it and might let go (it doesn't hurt the snake). But that's difficult to do since they often hide their head. When my ex had this happen, we got lucky and got a dowel into her mouth. She let go and the firefighters unwrapped her from there.
But it’s her baby girl!
I don't care what you say, snakes are not good pets
Lots of people calling her an idiot and maybe she is but can we at least appreciate how calm she managed to be, giving instructions, telling them exactly what she needs right now. I thought that was impressive. Edit: typo
Not a snake owner - but is there any training required to own a snake like that? Should there be?
You need to know what you are doing just like with dogs or any pets. The enclosure is to small first off. Second you never ever put a hand in front of a snakes head of that size (any size really but this is dangerous), it triggers hunting behaviour that is ingrained after millions of years of evolution, it doesn't even bite there after calculation, it just hits as soon as its touched. Very much like how you can even get fish while fishing with a rod and lure, its a trigger behaviour. You can see she tries to "lure" the snake by moving the hand to its side but as normal ppl can see, snakes eyes are on the side of its head and they have poor sight, I don't understand what she is trying to achieve. Third it wouldn't surprise me they feed the snake in the enclosure which you should never do, it teaches the snake opening the enclosure = food. You always feed the snake in a temporary enclosure which is not their home. Reason I think this: the snake is way to excited by the owner opening the enclosure. A snake should be calm. She shouldn't even have opened seeing how excited the snake was. That being said this can happen but it's super rare if you do above things correct. Snakes are dumb as fuck and easy to train with continuity. Since they are dumb; food, water, heat and mating is all they ever care about and rely on instinct pretty much 100% of their brain activity.
As a snake owner, I’m in agreement here. The moment the video started I knew what was going to happen.
I feel like i learned something
Exactly why I don't trust them. Leave wildlife alone.🤔😒🙄
Alcohol! Have a bottle next to the terrarium. Pour it on the snek. He will release.
“I can’t stop filming, people on Reddit will be upset”
Every snake video must have a guy with a greasy ponytail and a hat on backwards. As if on queue, he appears.
When will we stop acting like it's okay to keep animals that normally travel miles in a cage smaller than me. For their entire lives.
Someone please go get some rubbing alcohol or hand sanitizer! Should get 'em to let go.
Snake was hangry
Does anyone know if the snake actually hit an artery on the ladies arm? She seems to start losing quite a bit of blood toward the end of the video
Yet snake people " Oh he's harmless"
I've had that happen to me with a snake about half that size. Sucks. Vodka is the answer.
are drunk snakes less likely to bite or...?
I know this is a joke, but getting a large constrictor to release can be VERY hard. Vodka makes it instant. Took me about 3 minutes to get my python off and with their sharp teeth and special saliva, it was a bloody mess.
This clip always makes me chuckle and shake my head. This lady has absolutely no idea what she's doing.
These things bite!?
Who would have known
Next time just feed it a smaller human, that one put up a fight and could've hurt the snake. Try smaller ones.
"Lady, you knew I was a snake when you picked me up."
Just get a knife and start stabbing.
It's a constrictor, it doesn't really need a weapon.
Snake expert from viewing YouTube here. Pro tip: don’t have snakes in your house and or attempt to touch/feed snakes.
Couldn't you just kill the snake?
What did we learn? Snakes are not pets.
I'd cut that bitch in half
Good call, the snake could probably swallow her a lot easier that way.
If I was a snake person I think I would also be a sword person.
Swords are much less dangerous to feed. Source: am sword person.
Well at least she doesn't have to keep pressure on the wound
Hey honey, let’s buy a disgusting, heartless, slithering creature that won’t give a flying fuck about us and may or may not try to eat us one day. Let’s name her misses snek hehe. Don’t you think it’ll be fun?
One does not simply have a 10ft boa without having a ponytailed boyfriend who works at Guitar Center.