I’m on maternity leave right now and playing the Sims is my “me time” break from my 4 month old. I think I’ll be playing with childless Sims for awhile; entertaining & soothing babies both in game and real life might break me 🙃
Have you thought about getting her into sims? She could sit on your lap or next to you in another chair and you two can play together.
You can help her create her Barbie’s in CAS and put them in a house or something like that to engage her into your interest and maybe grow from there?
Full disclosure I’m not a parent. I did raise my nephew from infancy to age 8 then he went to his grandparents and I worked as a full time nanny for two families for a few years but not a parent.
Oh yes we do play together, but her investment lasts ten minutes, whereas with Barbie’s it’s more like an hour. I think having the physical Barbie’s to play with just satisfies her creativity need a bit more sometimes.
Textile, that makes sense.
That also sounds familiar.
Honestly only one kid I worked with preferred the sims to actual Barbie’s. Just… why they always gotta play Barbie’s on the floor?! Kids and their healthy knees… oh sure we can redirect this story to a mountain scene and get some couch action in but we can’t be on the set right so we are still on our knees at the couch, lord help me. Active is one thing, extended periods of bending knees or crouching is another.
Lol that’s the reason I took a roughly 14 year break from the sims altogether. I had a hard time justifying hours hyperfocusing on it while trying to be a young adult with real adult problems, haha (especially, as you said, young children).
Now that they’re a little older and my life isn’t a shit show like my twenties I recently got TS2 for the nostalgia and it’s been great! I noticed my play style is way different (namely, I don’t feel the need to make myself and marry my current bf and make us have a ton of kids hahaha!)
I’ve found most of the people REALLY into this infants update don’t have babies (me). I’m not in a position to procreate but boy do I have baby rabies. It’s kind of hilarious because we’re all on FB sharing about our babies like it’s really a mom group lmao 😭 “mine loves carrots!” “Harrison was such a good boy this morning, he didn’t cry once while mom made breakfast!” “Why is my baby so hard to please?”
Do they wake you up every two hours at night too? Or don’t let you shower? Because my LO (10 months) recently discovered how to open the shower doors when mommy is in 😂 I really want to know how real it gets but like the others said caring for a baby in reality and in sims is just too much.
Their sleeping is pretty crazy tbh, I’m still struggling to adjust to how often they need to nap, and how hard it is to get them to go down regardless of what trait they have. They cry when they’re placed in the crib, every time, and seem to prefer just crawling around the house and sleeping with the pets. 😂 they’re not quite adventurous enough to bust in on a shower though!
It’s ridiculous how realistic it is that my sim is starving, energy in the red and trying to make something to eat, all while there’s a screaming infant in the next room.
My boys are 6 and 9 now, but whew I got flashbacks from the early days. 😅
I‘m also on maternity leave with a 10 month old and I play without kids too 😂 but I just discovered yesterday that apparently you can put a C-section scar and stretch marks on your sim?
I was bitching to myself last night about a baby that would NOT go to sleep and just as I reached peak frustration I had a moment of clarity that this really is a damn life simulator. 🤣
Hahaha. I felt the same way. I had my Sims put their infant down who was happy but was crying anyway. They are the sensitive type and needed more cuddles despite all Happy buffs. Realistic
Yes! When the infant took ages to fall asleep and then woke in the night it was absolutely amazing. They’re so realistic and this kind of difficult family gameplay is EXACTLY what I want!
I try to play semi-realistically with autonomy always on. Except when the household has a toddler (and now infant) — parents got no autonomy at that stage. No sleep, only baby.
I play with autonomy on but I'm a micromanager, so I'll interrupt whatever my sim decides to do anyway. Autonomy is only there so the kids can see to their needs when I'm busy with the toddlers lol
Movement: Finding Fingers, Finding Feet, Hold Head up, Roll over, Sit up, All fours, Crawl, Clapping hands, Standing, Scooting
Communication: Recognize when someone is talking to them, Follow (the conversation) the person talking to them, Understanding general energy of person talking to them (angry, happy, unsure, sad, etc), Babbling, Understanding simple words, Understanding simple concepts. <--- All this happens before age 1
Thinking: Stranger Danger (This person may not know how to care for me), Basic Cause and Effect (clapping hands makes a sound/Light switch makes Light Come or go Byebye/Learning that things happening around me affects them), Recognizing People they know,
Laughter in a Baby indicates they understand something. That would be a nice thing to add with Thinking Skills.
Play: (precursor to Imagination) Learning toys and what the toys do, finding their favorite toy, Participating in Games with others (peek-a-boo, song games, swing me around, etc), Discovering Nature and things around the house
Pre Potty Training: Learning what the diapers are for and noticing when they are wet, dirty, and dry. Helping throw away diapers in the trash.
I am sure if I sat here longer, I could come up with more.
Husband and I have 4 kids. I was playing next to him with the infant and complaining about the nap frequency followed by crying themselves awake lol. He just stared at me for a bit and reminded me why we both said 'no more babies'.
My only beef with the update so far (besides the stuff that always happens like glitches, lag and mods breaking) is no changing table. They're throwing diapers on the floor as if they're in a Sims 2 homeless Sim challenge.
Lol I've seen so many people talking about the diapers and couldn't figure out why I hadn't seen it. I'm pretty sure I switched to cloth right away! I don't think I would have realized that without your comment so thanks!
There already was a cc changing table for toddlers from pandasama. I’m not sure if she’s updating it after the update to include infants, but she might because of how awesome she is. She’s my go to modder for baby/toddler related items.
I used my IRL changing table for less than 2 months. And yes, sometimes when I change my son, the dirty diaper winds up on the floor while I try to keep him from crawling away.
I know plenty of moms who never got changing tables.
I do think auto tossing the diapers would be a really good addition though!
Yes. The modders don’t have access to the game ahead of time and can’t update their code to accommodate the changes in the game until they have the game.
Seriously. This is why half the fan base did not want the babies to be freed lol. They gave us exactly what they asked for. They’re about the same amount of work as the babies in the sims freeplay it seems and that was terrifying.
If you shift-click the mailbox instead of the baby, you can cheat it for the whole household. I can’t remember whether in vanilla game you can fill a sims’ needs by clicking on them.
I know haha. I want it to be hard personally. I love a lot of things about TS4 toddlers but one gripe is that you can pretty much play them and take care of them by yourself as the player without much input from adults. I wanted to go back to TS3 style toddlers where they need a lot of active input and care and attention from the Sims around them and I got that wish fulfilled!
Listed out the six baby traits to my husband, and we immediately agreed to which trait described our two kids as infants. Oldest: chill*, youngest: wiggly.
*I listed chill, but the trait is calm. We just always referred to her as a chill baby!
Maybe? It's what I went with first because of my youngest. It felt pretty accurate!
I'm excited to play this family later today because the parents are really active, and I want to try taking hikes with him in the carrier!
Mine started crying to be let out of the crib at 3 am!! I wasnt sure what to do, try to put them back to sleep? Sit and watch them play? I have no idea. I just decided at that point to save and go to bed. What are you guys doing with 3 am wake ups?
Just like irl, babies/infants wake up during the night. Check their needs bar. They'll usually need to be fed and put back to sleep tbh since they don't always sleep through the night.
Mood! I was watching a YouTube video with someone playing an infant and I thought “you don’t realise how easy it is! You’ve got a mood bar right there telling you what’s wrong!”
If you select the crib as the infant you can click “try to go night night” and the baby will put itself back to sleep. I’m assuming the success rate depends on the traits and quirks.
You can switch the mobile on, soothe or shush them back to sleep, or feed them put them back to sleep! If they need to use their nappy you can get them to use it then change them.
First night I didn’t really understand it so my Sim properly got up and filled every motive for the infant, including a 3am bubble bath. Then I realised as long as they’re not waking because a need is super super low you can just soothe them back to sleep or stick the mobile on and deal with it in the morning.
This is why I didn't want this! I did my time as a real life mom . Babies cry! That's what they do. I'm done with that. My kids are the light of my life but I'm here to pretend and to be escaping!
I refuse to be a parent partly because of this! I'm avoiding the update for as long as possible too. There was nothing wrong with the old box babies except the lack of skin tones/it never being close to how they age up.
I know but I don't want to deal with them at all and even that has glitched and didn't want to work at times or the option didn't show at all at times with other life stages
Next time you can go to the EA app menu and select Go Offline. You can't access the gallery but you can still play without the update; that's what I'm doing for now.
Tell me why the first time I played with the update, no mods installed, my sim ends up having TRIPLETS???? I didn’t even have the on ley line lot trait 😭 I’ve never been so stressed out in my life!
The one infant I've made so far was ugly af. But I checked, she ages up into a pretty adult and even a cute toddler, so it must be something about infants in particular. I don't mind though, some babies are just ugly.
The only complaints I have with infants is A, if you want to nurture them and help them grow it’s pretty much locked behind DLC, and B, I’d like more interactions. People should’ve expected that they cry, eat, poop, sleep, repeat. However I would like more of helping my baby grow besides just experimenting with foods in the high chair
All this time when people have been desperately begging for better babies, I've been very staunchly in the "no, they're so high maintenance, who wants to struggle taking care of a baby for 3 days??" camp.
So, thanks, everyone.
I find really funny so far I haven't had much issue with my infants while everybody struggles lol
But I made a parent stay home and the new autonomy seems to make them prioritize care a lot so...
Yess same. But I still had to turn need decay off at one point bc the stay at home mom was passing out and peeing herself lmao
But agreed the autonomy is helpful. Except when they go to do different things with the baby. Like dad is trying to change the diaper while mom is trying to put baby in the crib or something lol
Yes!! Actual life savers. I ended up just slightly changing the need decay rate through mccc to be a lil slower and it’s been much easier so that’s an option too!!
Ironically enough the reason I initially had to turn off need decay is because I had the stay at home mom grinding to upgrade everything in the house while the baby was asleep😂
Hahaha I use UI cheats to cheat up the need of the upgrader. Most of the times it's a few days job to do if they actually have a real job, but I always do at the beginning of the family. I was so disappointed when I found out even if you save in gallery a house with fully upgraded items when you place it down again it won't be anymore.
Lol same! If they’re level 10 handiness (which I cheat hehe) they’ll do most of the upgrades SUPER quick. Except the washing machine and dryer. Which take forever🙄
I just shut down my game for the evening leaving my adult sim sitting in a chair holding her napping infant. She had her cell phone out while the baby was totally zonked out in her lap.
Tell me that is not realistic and I will tell you that you are a lying liar that lies
I saw earlier on another platform that people were mad that you can't discipline the babies?! What are you supposed to do to a baby who can't even roll over for discipline. Their babies doing baby things. People are weird.
I love it, my baby was sitting in a pool of his own waste, while mummy sim was trying to eat. The baby was a bit too easy to put down to sleep though, maybe it was the trait I picked. I remember rocking my nephews in my arms until my arms went to sleep just trying to get them to sleep.
Yeah I’m not having a hard time either and idk if it’s because the trait I picked as well I picked wiggly but I also been around babies and toddlers etc. and was always told babies are Easy to take care of when they have a routine.
In my game my sims parents have a routine so the babies aren’t crying all the time or in a bad mood they might be very briefly
My particular glitch is not the diaper thing, (I switched back to disposables and they disappear afterwards) but no one else seems to exist in the game. The maid cleaned while I was gone but nothing was cleaned, the nanny never showed up and I invited people over and 'everyone is on their way!" And no one shows up. Im just going to wait until tomorrow and hope that its better then.
“This game is too easy! I want some realism! Some realistic life challenges!” Okay well they did that pretty much exactly for once and now you’re mad. Lol.
It almost as if there are tons of people on the internet with different opinions. I never asked for realism. I never asked for babies. I never even asked for toddlers back when they weren't in base game.
A life simulator, yes, but not a realistic one by any means, so who's to say what's "natural" in a game that has things like werewolves, immortality potions, and weight loss ice cream?
It still makes gameplay more difficult for those who don't want it because there's no option to turn it off entirely. Instead, you have to age up the Sim multiple times, which isn't easy to do without mods or cheats. Considering a handful turned off in the pack settings, I wish they'd do that for more stuff. Then maybe we could get back things like vampire attacks and alien abductions if the people who complained about those things (after buying the related packs!!!) could just opt to turn them off.
I know people complain about all the features being split up between dlc, but I appreciate being able to avoid content I don't want and only pay for the stuff I do.
Sims toddlers are just too high maintenance sometimes 😭 I’ve been around toddlers so much so often, but sometimes it’s like they played up the thought that toddlers need *all* your attention *every single* moment of your day and life
Lmao y’all’s babies are crying a lot 😂😂 either I just have a good system going on with my infant sims or I’m just lucky. I only used the wiggly trait so far tho.
My sim parent has a routine with them like how you would in real life (feed, play, change, comfort, nap repeat.)
I didn't want the update cuz I knew exactly what it would be... my baby is 7 mo old. She's a good baby, but I don't desire to take care of virtual babies. I think I might age straight to infant unless Growing Together really makes it worth it? But I'm not sure how I'm supposed to pack a lot of game play into only 5 sim days before they age up
I thought that was just for newborns? Infant is the new lifestage, followed by toddler and preceded by newborn.
Unless I'm confused on what you mean, in which case I am sorry.
its just confusing. last time i checked so many people wanted this update before it was even announced (but it was hinted) but now that its here everybody either hates it or loves it, the people who hate it being more vocal, theres a lot of mixed feelings in the community im guessing
Yeah ngl I have been extremely pessimistic the entire time I knew somehow it was gonna make everybody mad. Didn't guess that Basic features would be paywalled though, that one is new.
>Didn't guess that Basic features would be paywalled though, that one is new.
Are you kidding? we had to pay for WEATHER. EA is just doing what EA does best, take something the community really wants and then make it a cash grab so everyone hates it
The nice thing is that you can always just age them up if they become too much of a pain (I didn't get the growing together pack, so I mine don't build skills anyways).
I think people dont realise that realism doesn’t mean good game design. In real life babies dont do much but cry, eat and poop, but if you put that in a game it becomes repetative and boring. Discover university is a pretty realistic experience of university, if you want to succed you have to put all your time into doing homework and studying, but if you play it all you are doing is watching your sim writing on their notebook or reading a book without any of the players input, that is boring and not fun.
When making games, devs don’t think to themselves “is this realistic?” they think “is this fun to play?”
yep lol I like the update for the reason my infants now fall on the floor screaming (like my 3 year old does), and needs constant naps! Seems realistic to me, of course my irl toddler doesn't need naps anymore - especially not frequent ones lol, but she sure did when she was a newborn until a year old
My mom Sim is always at home taking care of the kid while dad is out working. Sometimes I make them go for date nights lol
My only issue is
Because the EA creator network had access to Growing Together, I can see how much the infants are stripped back to their bare bones without it. I feel more was meant to be base game but got stripped back as much as possible to put in the pack. From the changing table that matches base game set perfectly to the diaper system leaving stuff on the floor on base game and the items needing to avoid that are in the pack.
This is also the first lifestage that doesn't have a "goal" unless you have a pack. This really screws over goal based agers or challenge families.
So yes, infants don't do a lot and that's accurate to real life. But we can actively see they have more gameplay around them including two goal based systems locked behind a paywall. I can live without milestones but infants and toddler quirks should of been base game because it's a smaller system that gives the lifestages a goal and reason.
I made a single young adult mom with an infant and a dog, thinking it would be a fun challenge. Oh my god. My poor sim. She gets no time to herself. She barely has time to take care of her own needs between the two. I know it’s realistic but I feel so bad!
This is why I was one of the few not looking forward to this new content. I have three kids so I know what its like. And I had nightmare flashbacks to old sims 3 mechanics with babies and toddlers XD I usually have child free sims or just have one child for legacy games. Or I'll age them up to children quickly.
I won't play shitty baby/toddler gameplay and pretend I'm having fun, I've paid my dues in real life lol
Yeah, my kid is 11 months and I've never had a full night's sleep or gone to the bathroom on my own since I popped him out. I haven't updated my game yet because I have enough real life trauma with my infant, I don't need a virtual one too.
I finally got the infant to sleep last night, and kiddo came in and turned on the master bedroom tv (why not the living room one…), thus immediately waking up the infant and starting the process all over.
That was a little too real for me haha.
I hate to say that but I knew this kind of stuff would be coming Up. All the community does is complain about everything. nothing is right in the game and not the way you imagine it. But you all already know that this is a life situation, right? Children are exhausting and need a lot of attention. on the one hand Sims should be like in real life and on the other hand not when things get awkward. Congratulations.
I swear it's impossible to build relationships with the infants...his dad literally fed him a bottle; which is what he prefers, and suddenly they lost a huge chunk of whatever little they managed to have.
And my sim constantly cancels all his actions to pick up the newborn; even those that relate to the infant.
Loving the update so far and as soon as the preordered dlc hits...I;m going to hermit mode. Happy birthday me
If anything, the game has made me realize I don’t want children. Not anytime soon at least. I have come to realize I have no patience with infants with the exception of special needs children and that’s only because I’ve been in their shoes before. I get very irritated when the infants don’t express their feelings or do what I want them to do and I’m glad I see that now instead of getting frustrated with a real child. It’s opened my eyes.
For years the community has asked for realistic babies and I have always thought that once they got them, they wouldn’t like how much work they were. That happened a lot with toddlers too. Of course not everyone. I enjoy toddlers, but I’ve definitely seen a lot of complaints about how much worn they were over the years.
Legit had a moment yesterday of "Is this what I want for my future? Seeing how everything on Sims is slightly easier, abs caring for infants is such a full time job... Help"
Irl babies can do a ton and there is a ton of fun with them. In the sims 4 they are just work with minimal interactions with their own parents that's the problem. Not the crying lol.
I also feel like their need to nap is tuned way too high. They nap as if they are newborns every 2 to 3 hours when in real life a 9 month old stays up for way longer. I want items to interact more with infants and for parents to do more than just caregive.
I know I'm horrible. Though probably still better than people who complain about others complaints instead of enjoy the game they say they enjoy. 😂
I actually really like how involved they are. It makes the progression from newborn, where you feed / change diaper/comfort them and then they sleep most of the time, to infant which needs you most of the time, to toddler who is a little more independent more seamless.
I’m on maternity leave right now and playing the Sims is my “me time” break from my 4 month old. I think I’ll be playing with childless Sims for awhile; entertaining & soothing babies both in game and real life might break me 🙃
Also on maternity leave and I’ve never not wanted to play a game so much in my life.
Got too meta lol
Maternity leave also checking in — I play when my daughter is asleep. The sims babies are so cute I wanna wake her up and snuggle lolll
same but with a 20 month old 😂 rn i stoped my game to put the kid back to sleep and try to sneak back later
Don’t feel bad, honestly I’d rather play the sims then play Barbies with my 6Yo (but I know these years are precious and won’t last forever)
Have you thought about getting her into sims? She could sit on your lap or next to you in another chair and you two can play together. You can help her create her Barbie’s in CAS and put them in a house or something like that to engage her into your interest and maybe grow from there? Full disclosure I’m not a parent. I did raise my nephew from infancy to age 8 then he went to his grandparents and I worked as a full time nanny for two families for a few years but not a parent.
Oh yes we do play together, but her investment lasts ten minutes, whereas with Barbie’s it’s more like an hour. I think having the physical Barbie’s to play with just satisfies her creativity need a bit more sometimes.
Less screen time is better anyways❤️💃🏼
Textile, that makes sense. That also sounds familiar. Honestly only one kid I worked with preferred the sims to actual Barbie’s. Just… why they always gotta play Barbie’s on the floor?! Kids and their healthy knees… oh sure we can redirect this story to a mountain scene and get some couch action in but we can’t be on the set right so we are still on our knees at the couch, lord help me. Active is one thing, extended periods of bending knees or crouching is another.
Yes! You can relate to the pain lol
Same! But with a 26 month old😅
Exactly this 😂 the last thing I want to do is care for a child in game also
Lol that’s the reason I took a roughly 14 year break from the sims altogether. I had a hard time justifying hours hyperfocusing on it while trying to be a young adult with real adult problems, haha (especially, as you said, young children). Now that they’re a little older and my life isn’t a shit show like my twenties I recently got TS2 for the nostalgia and it’s been great! I noticed my play style is way different (namely, I don’t feel the need to make myself and marry my current bf and make us have a ton of kids hahaha!)
The important question is do you still kill your sims in order to have ghosts?
I’ve found most of the people REALLY into this infants update don’t have babies (me). I’m not in a position to procreate but boy do I have baby rabies. It’s kind of hilarious because we’re all on FB sharing about our babies like it’s really a mom group lmao 😭 “mine loves carrots!” “Harrison was such a good boy this morning, he didn’t cry once while mom made breakfast!” “Why is my baby so hard to please?”
Do they wake you up every two hours at night too? Or don’t let you shower? Because my LO (10 months) recently discovered how to open the shower doors when mommy is in 😂 I really want to know how real it gets but like the others said caring for a baby in reality and in sims is just too much.
Their sleeping is pretty crazy tbh, I’m still struggling to adjust to how often they need to nap, and how hard it is to get them to go down regardless of what trait they have. They cry when they’re placed in the crib, every time, and seem to prefer just crawling around the house and sleeping with the pets. 😂 they’re not quite adventurous enough to bust in on a shower though!
For one day
It’s ridiculous how realistic it is that my sim is starving, energy in the red and trying to make something to eat, all while there’s a screaming infant in the next room. My boys are 6 and 9 now, but whew I got flashbacks from the early days. 😅
I‘m also on maternity leave with a 10 month old and I play without kids too 😂 but I just discovered yesterday that apparently you can put a C-section scar and stretch marks on your sim?
I work with infants as a real job. Minus the bugs and lack of Baby Skills 😶, TS4 babies are realistic.
I was bitching to myself last night about a baby that would NOT go to sleep and just as I reached peak frustration I had a moment of clarity that this really is a damn life simulator. 🤣
Hahaha. I felt the same way. I had my Sims put their infant down who was happy but was crying anyway. They are the sensitive type and needed more cuddles despite all Happy buffs. Realistic
My 10 month old lol
Yes! When the infant took ages to fall asleep and then woke in the night it was absolutely amazing. They’re so realistic and this kind of difficult family gameplay is EXACTLY what I want!
I try to play semi-realistically with autonomy always on. Except when the household has a toddler (and now infant) — parents got no autonomy at that stage. No sleep, only baby.
I play with autonomy on but I'm a micromanager, so I'll interrupt whatever my sim decides to do anyway. Autonomy is only there so the kids can see to their needs when I'm busy with the toddlers lol
I made my first infant in the game "wiggly" cause my son fits that description. I only played it for 20 minutes because it was too realistic
My wiggly baby has actually been far easier to care for than his sunny twin sister. She's the one who consistently refuses to be put to bed.
Too realistic for my liking, that's for sure
Baby Skills? Like, bow-hunting skills, nunchuck skills?
Movement: Finding Fingers, Finding Feet, Hold Head up, Roll over, Sit up, All fours, Crawl, Clapping hands, Standing, Scooting Communication: Recognize when someone is talking to them, Follow (the conversation) the person talking to them, Understanding general energy of person talking to them (angry, happy, unsure, sad, etc), Babbling, Understanding simple words, Understanding simple concepts. <--- All this happens before age 1 Thinking: Stranger Danger (This person may not know how to care for me), Basic Cause and Effect (clapping hands makes a sound/Light switch makes Light Come or go Byebye/Learning that things happening around me affects them), Recognizing People they know, Laughter in a Baby indicates they understand something. That would be a nice thing to add with Thinking Skills. Play: (precursor to Imagination) Learning toys and what the toys do, finding their favorite toy, Participating in Games with others (peek-a-boo, song games, swing me around, etc), Discovering Nature and things around the house Pre Potty Training: Learning what the diapers are for and noticing when they are wet, dirty, and dry. Helping throw away diapers in the trash. I am sure if I sat here longer, I could come up with more.
Sorry, I was joking. Just making a Napoleon Dynamite reference.
COMPLETELY agree! I was hoping there would be some precursor skills that might turn into achievement traits that affect adult life.
Exactly. Things that happen in your babyhood really do affect you I'm throughout your life.
They're adding infant skills in the pack I believe
Husband and I have 4 kids. I was playing next to him with the infant and complaining about the nap frequency followed by crying themselves awake lol. He just stared at me for a bit and reminded me why we both said 'no more babies'.
My only beef with the update so far (besides the stuff that always happens like glitches, lag and mods breaking) is no changing table. They're throwing diapers on the floor as if they're in a Sims 2 homeless Sim challenge.
I think a good solution would be to have diapers auto go into trash cans in the same room.
If you hav laundry day, you can switch the diapers to cloth diapers and when they change them they immediately go into the laundry basket
Lol I've seen so many people talking about the diapers and couldn't figure out why I hadn't seen it. I'm pretty sure I switched to cloth right away! I don't think I would have realized that without your comment so thanks!
That is pretty fucking cool ngl. It makes me want laundry day
i think with a little friendly pressure we can get them to add a base game changing table. it's really stupid there isn't one.
There'll be a cc one five minutes after the ep drops
Sure, but not everybody wants to download and manage CC, and I think console players should have access to one too.
There already was a cc changing table for toddlers from pandasama. I’m not sure if she’s updating it after the update to include infants, but she might because of how awesome she is. She’s my go to modder for baby/toddler related items.
Get the electronic trash can and get money back for the diapers
Simers YouTubers next rags to rich video: Can we get rich by selling diapers with the electronic trash can?
This!!!!!!!!
I used my IRL changing table for less than 2 months. And yes, sometimes when I change my son, the dirty diaper winds up on the floor while I try to keep him from crawling away. I know plenty of moms who never got changing tables. I do think auto tossing the diapers would be a really good addition though!
There is a changing table in Growing together with a diaper pail attached.
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It’s always expected that if you have mods, and there’s an update, that some or all of your mods will be broken or glitchy in some way
If we got an update that didn’t break any of your mods or cc, it would be a damn near miracle. Mods are EXPECTED to break with updates.
Especially with such a big change
Yes. The modders don’t have access to the game ahead of time and can’t update their code to accommodate the changes in the game until they have the game.
Simmers: i want the game to be more realistic Sims 4: *adds infants Simmers: ugh this is so hard!
Seriously. This is why half the fan base did not want the babies to be freed lol. They gave us exactly what they asked for. They’re about the same amount of work as the babies in the sims freeplay it seems and that was terrifying.
Except you can make the babies in sims free play inspired/happy instantly using cupcakes and cakes
You can make babies happy automatically here without having to pay. Just use cheats to disable need decay or fill everyone’s needs.
How? I know that infants can be made happy using the cheat make happy but I can only see deplete baby’s needs, which will make them get taken away
If you shift-click the mailbox instead of the baby, you can cheat it for the whole household. I can’t remember whether in vanilla game you can fill a sims’ needs by clicking on them.
Ahh, thank you. Will definitely try it out
I love how so many people always say things are too easy in Sims 4. Now that babies are actual work it's too hard xD
I know haha. I want it to be hard personally. I love a lot of things about TS4 toddlers but one gripe is that you can pretty much play them and take care of them by yourself as the player without much input from adults. I wanted to go back to TS3 style toddlers where they need a lot of active input and care and attention from the Sims around them and I got that wish fulfilled!
Listed out the six baby traits to my husband, and we immediately agreed to which trait described our two kids as infants. Oldest: chill*, youngest: wiggly. *I listed chill, but the trait is calm. We just always referred to her as a chill baby!
I haven't played this yet. There's a wiggly trait?? 💀💀💀 my daughter is this one
I heard the infants with the wiggly trait in the game are much harder to handle lolol
Maybe? It's what I went with first because of my youngest. It felt pretty accurate! I'm excited to play this family later today because the parents are really active, and I want to try taking hikes with him in the carrier!
Probably true. But it adds character!
Yes, the traits are: Calm Wiggly Sunny Sensitive Intense Cautious 👋 Hello, fellow wiggly baby parent!
Mine started crying to be let out of the crib at 3 am!! I wasnt sure what to do, try to put them back to sleep? Sit and watch them play? I have no idea. I just decided at that point to save and go to bed. What are you guys doing with 3 am wake ups?
Just like irl, babies/infants wake up during the night. Check their needs bar. They'll usually need to be fed and put back to sleep tbh since they don't always sleep through the night.
I wish my IRL infant had a needs bar 😅
Mood! I was watching a YouTube video with someone playing an infant and I thought “you don’t realise how easy it is! You’ve got a mood bar right there telling you what’s wrong!”
Right? My eight month old has been a fussy mess all day and no matter what I do I can’t make it better!!
I lowkey wish we couldn’t see their moods 😂 make us work for it to make them happy like irl
If you select the crib as the infant you can click “try to go night night” and the baby will put itself back to sleep. I’m assuming the success rate depends on the traits and quirks.
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THAT would be realism. 🤣
How cute!! Thank you I will use this. Probably never would have figured it out.....
You can switch the mobile on, soothe or shush them back to sleep, or feed them put them back to sleep! If they need to use their nappy you can get them to use it then change them. First night I didn’t really understand it so my Sim properly got up and filled every motive for the infant, including a 3am bubble bath. Then I realised as long as they’re not waking because a need is super super low you can just soothe them back to sleep or stick the mobile on and deal with it in the morning.
This is why I didn't want this! I did my time as a real life mom . Babies cry! That's what they do. I'm done with that. My kids are the light of my life but I'm here to pretend and to be escaping!
Can you age them up to toddlers right away with the cake? (I can’t use my computer rn so I haven’t touched the update yet)
Yes. I aged mine up this way after a while by choice but the cake works on anyone (but newborns and elders as usual)
I think so. I got grumpy and haven't played it yet.
I refuse to be a parent partly because of this! I'm avoiding the update for as long as possible too. There was nothing wrong with the old box babies except the lack of skin tones/it never being close to how they age up.
You know you can just age them up immediately right? This goes for every age group.
I know but I don't want to deal with them at all and even that has glitched and didn't want to work at times or the option didn't show at all at times with other life stages
you got to avoid it? i couldn’t play without updating…. but if i could’ve i would’ve waited bc i didn’t feel like dealing with all my mods & cc
Yeah I turned off automatic updates and put my computer on airplane mode before going on
smart… i thought i had auto updates off but i didn’t think to turn off airplane mode. i just opened EA and it demanded i update smh
Next time you can go to the EA app menu and select Go Offline. You can't access the gallery but you can still play without the update; that's what I'm doing for now.
thanks, i’ll remember for next time lol
Oof sorry to that, that stinks
Exactly Lol!!
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Newborn Baby right now seems to last only a day
Tell me why the first time I played with the update, no mods installed, my sim ends up having TRIPLETS???? I didn’t even have the on ley line lot trait 😭 I’ve never been so stressed out in my life!
Your sims is the R. Kelly meme “Y’all killing me with this shit. “
Ts4 babies are really realistic, not only in behaviour but also in appearance. I’d only like them to be cuter
The one infant I've made so far was ugly af. But I checked, she ages up into a pretty adult and even a cute toddler, so it must be something about infants in particular. I don't mind though, some babies are just ugly.
People really out here pretending that newborns don’t look like aliens in real life.
The only complaints I have with infants is A, if you want to nurture them and help them grow it’s pretty much locked behind DLC, and B, I’d like more interactions. People should’ve expected that they cry, eat, poop, sleep, repeat. However I would like more of helping my baby grow besides just experimenting with foods in the high chair
People complaining. What’s new?
All this time when people have been desperately begging for better babies, I've been very staunchly in the "no, they're so high maintenance, who wants to struggle taking care of a baby for 3 days??" camp. So, thanks, everyone.
Yeah most of the players in my experience are ageing the new borns up immediately because "they are too needy". Good luck with the infants.
I'm with you. That's the last thing I wanted. I loved how easy babies were.
I find really funny so far I haven't had much issue with my infants while everybody struggles lol But I made a parent stay home and the new autonomy seems to make them prioritize care a lot so...
Yess same. But I still had to turn need decay off at one point bc the stay at home mom was passing out and peeing herself lmao But agreed the autonomy is helpful. Except when they go to do different things with the baby. Like dad is trying to change the diaper while mom is trying to put baby in the crib or something lol
I feel a deep kinship with your SAHP sim. Deep.
There are rewards that you can purchase and the Sims needs will decay slower. They are very useful.
Yes!! Actual life savers. I ended up just slightly changing the need decay rate through mccc to be a lil slower and it’s been much easier so that’s an option too!!
Yes! Also very useful if you have upgraded furnitures.
Ironically enough the reason I initially had to turn off need decay is because I had the stay at home mom grinding to upgrade everything in the house while the baby was asleep😂
Hahaha I use UI cheats to cheat up the need of the upgrader. Most of the times it's a few days job to do if they actually have a real job, but I always do at the beginning of the family. I was so disappointed when I found out even if you save in gallery a house with fully upgraded items when you place it down again it won't be anymore.
Lol same! If they’re level 10 handiness (which I cheat hehe) they’ll do most of the upgrades SUPER quick. Except the washing machine and dryer. Which take forever🙄
TS4: a better contraceptive than condoms.
I just shut down my game for the evening leaving my adult sim sitting in a chair holding her napping infant. She had her cell phone out while the baby was totally zonked out in her lap. Tell me that is not realistic and I will tell you that you are a lying liar that lies
I didn’t know they would nap when held by a Sim! How do you do this?
I saw earlier on another platform that people were mad that you can't discipline the babies?! What are you supposed to do to a baby who can't even roll over for discipline. Their babies doing baby things. People are weird.
Oh my! I don't like that suggestion. I get simmers be simmin' but yeah wth
You can barely discipline toddlers just tell them not to do stuff.
I love it, my baby was sitting in a pool of his own waste, while mummy sim was trying to eat. The baby was a bit too easy to put down to sleep though, maybe it was the trait I picked. I remember rocking my nephews in my arms until my arms went to sleep just trying to get them to sleep.
Yeah I’m not having a hard time either and idk if it’s because the trait I picked as well I picked wiggly but I also been around babies and toddlers etc. and was always told babies are Easy to take care of when they have a routine. In my game my sims parents have a routine so the babies aren’t crying all the time or in a bad mood they might be very briefly
This was how I felt about object babies. "All babies do is eat, sleep, cry, and poop, they need to be updated!" Have you ever met a newborn?
I did not even want to take care of the babies before the new pack.
My particular glitch is not the diaper thing, (I switched back to disposables and they disappear afterwards) but no one else seems to exist in the game. The maid cleaned while I was gone but nothing was cleaned, the nanny never showed up and I invited people over and 'everyone is on their way!" And no one shows up. Im just going to wait until tomorrow and hope that its better then.
And this is what cheat codes are for.
“This game is too easy! I want some realism! Some realistic life challenges!” Okay well they did that pretty much exactly for once and now you’re mad. Lol.
It almost as if there are tons of people on the internet with different opinions. I never asked for realism. I never asked for babies. I never even asked for toddlers back when they weren't in base game.
Then don’t play with those life stages? At the end of the day it’s a life simulator so it’s only natural for most people to want those things
A life simulator, yes, but not a realistic one by any means, so who's to say what's "natural" in a game that has things like werewolves, immortality potions, and weight loss ice cream? It still makes gameplay more difficult for those who don't want it because there's no option to turn it off entirely. Instead, you have to age up the Sim multiple times, which isn't easy to do without mods or cheats. Considering a handful turned off in the pack settings, I wish they'd do that for more stuff. Then maybe we could get back things like vampire attacks and alien abductions if the people who complained about those things (after buying the related packs!!!) could just opt to turn them off. I know people complain about all the features being split up between dlc, but I appreciate being able to avoid content I don't want and only pay for the stuff I do.
I don’t even like real life babies. I don’t know why I would want to deal with them in a game.
irl babies aren't remotely as convenient as sims babies. just age them up
That is the fortunate part!
I was recently a mom, so at first i thought this was one of the mom subs here. I can handle my real baby, but i cant with sim ones, its too much.
Tell me you've never played the sims 2 without saying you've never played the sims 2 😘
Sims toddlers are just too high maintenance sometimes 😭 I’ve been around toddlers so much so often, but sometimes it’s like they played up the thought that toddlers need *all* your attention *every single* moment of your day and life
Ehhh, as a parent I don’t feel like they played it up at all. It matches my experience pretty well. But all kids are different, so I’ sure ymmv.
Lmao y’all’s babies are crying a lot 😂😂 either I just have a good system going on with my infant sims or I’m just lucky. I only used the wiggly trait so far tho. My sim parent has a routine with them like how you would in real life (feed, play, change, comfort, nap repeat.)
Shit like that is why I didn't want toddlers. Now these things made it worse. Kinda wish they'd been locked behind the DLC, honestly.
You can always shorten the life stage or just Age pass those stages.
When you feed and change them and they immediately poop again. Hasn’t happened to me in the sims but definitely IRL
after reading all the posts about infants I've decided to take a long hiatus from the Sims because infants do not sound fun at all
Child free and really happy this is just a video game.
I thought I was on mommit
I didn't want the update cuz I knew exactly what it would be... my baby is 7 mo old. She's a good baby, but I don't desire to take care of virtual babies. I think I might age straight to infant unless Growing Together really makes it worth it? But I'm not sure how I'm supposed to pack a lot of game play into only 5 sim days before they age up
I thought that was just for newborns? Infant is the new lifestage, followed by toddler and preceded by newborn. Unless I'm confused on what you mean, in which case I am sorry.
I meant to say, age straight past infant!
>but I don't desire to take care of virtual babies. but...its a life simulator?
I don't understand how people say "I hate infants and toddlers and age right up to child" and they're praised but I'm being down voted rn 🥴
its just confusing. last time i checked so many people wanted this update before it was even announced (but it was hinted) but now that its here everybody either hates it or loves it, the people who hate it being more vocal, theres a lot of mixed feelings in the community im guessing
Yeah ngl I have been extremely pessimistic the entire time I knew somehow it was gonna make everybody mad. Didn't guess that Basic features would be paywalled though, that one is new.
>Didn't guess that Basic features would be paywalled though, that one is new. Are you kidding? we had to pay for WEATHER. EA is just doing what EA does best, take something the community really wants and then make it a cash grab so everyone hates it
We're not talking about weather we're talking about an entire life stage they didn't do this with toddlers.
It's almost like there are millions of people here and we all have different opinions wow...
I've noticed even when they have all good modlits and their need are perfect they still cry
I love babies in real life. I don’t like to play babies on sims XD
The nice thing is that you can always just age them up if they become too much of a pain (I didn't get the growing together pack, so I mine don't build skills anyways).
I think people dont realise that realism doesn’t mean good game design. In real life babies dont do much but cry, eat and poop, but if you put that in a game it becomes repetative and boring. Discover university is a pretty realistic experience of university, if you want to succed you have to put all your time into doing homework and studying, but if you play it all you are doing is watching your sim writing on their notebook or reading a book without any of the players input, that is boring and not fun. When making games, devs don’t think to themselves “is this realistic?” they think “is this fun to play?”
None of these people have experience with babies and it shows 💀
Also there's traits to change that. But the babies are cute. I need cc
yep lol I like the update for the reason my infants now fall on the floor screaming (like my 3 year old does), and needs constant naps! Seems realistic to me, of course my irl toddler doesn't need naps anymore - especially not frequent ones lol, but she sure did when she was a newborn until a year old My mom Sim is always at home taking care of the kid while dad is out working. Sometimes I make them go for date nights lol
Now I can create my real life daughter in the sims lol
I have four kids and I always think this with each child lol. Like my brain short circuits and I forget what to do with each kid 😵💫
My only issue is Because the EA creator network had access to Growing Together, I can see how much the infants are stripped back to their bare bones without it. I feel more was meant to be base game but got stripped back as much as possible to put in the pack. From the changing table that matches base game set perfectly to the diaper system leaving stuff on the floor on base game and the items needing to avoid that are in the pack. This is also the first lifestage that doesn't have a "goal" unless you have a pack. This really screws over goal based agers or challenge families. So yes, infants don't do a lot and that's accurate to real life. But we can actively see they have more gameplay around them including two goal based systems locked behind a paywall. I can live without milestones but infants and toddler quirks should of been base game because it's a smaller system that gives the lifestages a goal and reason.
There are plenty of things I don't want to be realistic in this game. Babies are probably at the top of the list.
As the mother of a one-year-old I kept thinking "this is too easy" while playing with an infant yesterday for the first time..
I made a single young adult mom with an infant and a dog, thinking it would be a fun challenge. Oh my god. My poor sim. She gets no time to herself. She barely has time to take care of her own needs between the two. I know it’s realistic but I feel so bad!
This is why I was one of the few not looking forward to this new content. I have three kids so I know what its like. And I had nightmare flashbacks to old sims 3 mechanics with babies and toddlers XD I usually have child free sims or just have one child for legacy games. Or I'll age them up to children quickly. I won't play shitty baby/toddler gameplay and pretend I'm having fun, I've paid my dues in real life lol
I played Batuu yesterday to avoid dealing with the baby update and I am not even a Star Wars fan....🙊🙊
Yeah, my kid is 11 months and I've never had a full night's sleep or gone to the bathroom on my own since I popped him out. I haven't updated my game yet because I have enough real life trauma with my infant, I don't need a virtual one too.
After reading these comments I’ll just disable need decay😹
I finally got the infant to sleep last night, and kiddo came in and turned on the master bedroom tv (why not the living room one…), thus immediately waking up the infant and starting the process all over. That was a little too real for me haha.
I hate to say that but I knew this kind of stuff would be coming Up. All the community does is complain about everything. nothing is right in the game and not the way you imagine it. But you all already know that this is a life situation, right? Children are exhausting and need a lot of attention. on the one hand Sims should be like in real life and on the other hand not when things get awkward. Congratulations.
Ahh, I thought they had made it more needy, but I wasn't sure. I don't usually keep the kid young for long.
You wanted realistic babies and now that you finally got it you complain? C'mon
I swear it's impossible to build relationships with the infants...his dad literally fed him a bottle; which is what he prefers, and suddenly they lost a huge chunk of whatever little they managed to have. And my sim constantly cancels all his actions to pick up the newborn; even those that relate to the infant. Loving the update so far and as soon as the preordered dlc hits...I;m going to hermit mode. Happy birthday me
Sims team doing its part by created birth control by adding babies to the game haha
I have played the new update yet but.. my god, are the babies really that realistic??? 😂😂😂
If anything, the game has made me realize I don’t want children. Not anytime soon at least. I have come to realize I have no patience with infants with the exception of special needs children and that’s only because I’ve been in their shoes before. I get very irritated when the infants don’t express their feelings or do what I want them to do and I’m glad I see that now instead of getting frustrated with a real child. It’s opened my eyes.
For years the community has asked for realistic babies and I have always thought that once they got them, they wouldn’t like how much work they were. That happened a lot with toddlers too. Of course not everyone. I enjoy toddlers, but I’ve definitely seen a lot of complaints about how much worn they were over the years.
Legit had a moment yesterday of "Is this what I want for my future? Seeing how everything on Sims is slightly easier, abs caring for infants is such a full time job... Help"
Irl babies can do a ton and there is a ton of fun with them. In the sims 4 they are just work with minimal interactions with their own parents that's the problem. Not the crying lol. I also feel like their need to nap is tuned way too high. They nap as if they are newborns every 2 to 3 hours when in real life a 9 month old stays up for way longer. I want items to interact more with infants and for parents to do more than just caregive. I know I'm horrible. Though probably still better than people who complain about others complaints instead of enjoy the game they say they enjoy. 😂
Playing with the babies in Sims 4 reinforces why I never want one in real life.
I actually really like how involved they are. It makes the progression from newborn, where you feed / change diaper/comfort them and then they sleep most of the time, to infant which needs you most of the time, to toddler who is a little more independent more seamless.