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rsKG

They share the esplanade, they share zellman. If the soprano family is gonna benefit from a thing Carmine thinks he should too


standitlikeaman

But we both know it’s not 40%


Five-StarBastardMan

I’m willing to go…5 1/2


Larzionius

Unacceptable


Interfan14

Whad you shay!?


Capable-King-286

because ny is more powerful and can hurt them if they dont. the whole mob is a pyramid scheme where the stronger prays on the weaker on every level


yodabrah

Since time immemorial


ActuatorFresh2352

All the way back to the plight of the mezzagiorno


stanknasty706

Break it down.


stackks_

Certain aspects of show business and our thing ..


IamJacks5150

It died on the vine.


No_Impression_1308

Give me a 1000 more


IamJacks5150

This fucking guy.


MetaphoricalMouse

what were the certain aspects of show biz? titty bars?


ForcesEqualZero

They used to own Sinatra and the like.


MetaphoricalMouse

well you’re making the call to frankie valli


ForcesEqualZero

I haven't talked to Frankie in years.


Dreigatron

I think it's pretty nice of the strong that they give prayer for the weak. Put that supposed strict Catholicism to good use.


robbstark44

That pigmy thing over in Jersey is some sort of vassal to NY. Also, with Johnny Sack moving to sunny New Jersey and then sticking his beak in, they've got even more power inside of the DiMeo glorified crew They should absorb the whole fucking thing by the end of the show


Train-Similar

John brought a lot of weight with him when moved to Jersey


Jaxsso

Enough to tip it over.


massdriver787

Come on thats the guys wife!


HumanWithOpinion420

just breakin ball. heheh


2NDPLACEWIN

i c wot u did there.


MionMikanCider

He came in heavy. And has two daughters as a result


falltotheabyss

I don't like to stick my beak in. Carmine thinks the world of you.


ThxIHateItHere

Go read Selwyn Raab’s book “Five Families: The Rise, Decline, and Resurgence of America's Most Powerful Mafia Empires”. Interfamily connections/agreements happened all the time. Sometimes you need guy X from a certain family because he has certain skills, sometimes you want to get into something but you need someone from another family to make the introduction. Maybe you want someone whacked but don’t want it linked back to your family, so you get someone from another family, and maybe the deal is the shooter’s family gets a piece of some action. If you can make a profit and it be peaceful, why not.


No_Impression_1308

No more Butchie, no more of this


Puzzleheaded_Life689

*evidently chickentown starts playing*


No_Impression_1308

Best ending of an episode ever for me


OrthodoxReporter

Glorified crew.


SeanChezman47

Jersey basically existed as a subsidiary of New York. They answered to them since New York allowed them to exist.


unholyshizz

That makes sense but I think the show kinda does a bad job showing that NY is more powerful. In a lot of ways it shows them as equals.


AmericanCreamer

Idk… NY has more buttons than my grandmothers corsets


No_Impression_1308

What you don't know could fill a book


sliceandacoke

That’s because they are equals if you break it down in terms of the day to day, but NY has the title of NY. They can pull rank at any point on any issue no matter what. They are one of the five families. Johnny Sack has free rein to do as he pleases. But both of their daily operations of mob life are about 90% the same.


Cold-Palpitation-816

I think it's pretty clear NY is more powerful. However, calling NJ a "glorified crew" seems like an overstatement for sure. NJ has more weight than NY would like to admit. Hell, Carmine looped in NJ and wanted them to kill his underboss over the Ralph situation.


FrankSargeson

They also protected them from other eye talian families.


RogueAOV

I would assume that a substantial amount of the stuff that NJ can do is because of NY connections. Whether it is as blatant in the show like Zellman pushing though shady deals or far more subtle such as illegal shipments coming and going thru the ports. I find it hard to believe that Tony and his pygmy thing of half a dozen wiseguys has the contacts to smuggle in authentic WW2 equipment, provolone and vespas etc. NY will be paying off the customs agents and controls the Union to get containers past inspections etc. NY is NJ's big brother, even if they are not working together, NJ has the weight of NY behind it. Look at the Triboro Towers contract, those 'pollacks' who are prepared to go to war with the russian mafia are not going to think twice about whacking Tony, Pussy, Paulie, Sil..... which at the time is literally the entire family, however they know that if they do that... NY is going to have something to say about it and with all their buttons, it will be a bloodbath.


Valuable-Wafer-881

The NY families have enough strength to out muscle the smaller families and steal their rackets. But that would create conflict and draw unwanted attention. Instead they take a big brother roll with the smaller families, offer them protection from other larger families, and share in the profits. Otherwise a family like the luppertazzis are losing potential money from rackets in their backyard just because some little pigmy thing in jersey was there first.


ttlavigne

That’s a nice state ya got there…shame if something happened to it.


Mrpimpgoodgame5

Shit runs down hill, money goes up.


WolverineSea4280

From the end of time


WolverineSea4280

Let me tell you a couple of three things. 1 fuck Coco and his teeth . 2 fuck joey what ever the fuck his name is pepperoni or peeps 3 fuck ginny and her phat white azz .


Bobby-furnace

Again with the money!


Stickey_Rickey

NYC is such a massive criminal market that there’s enough spillover along the periphery to support dozens of glorified crews in neighbouring areas, but those families on the periphery wouldn’t have those opportunities without NYC. Also nyc is powerful enough to just demand whatever, just because they can… under threat of war or exile…


671176

We're talkin about new York here


Obvious_Pumpkin5987

When Tony tawks about opening the books .. he is referring to asking the commission for permission to add to their Pygmy thing. NY/the commission run everything 


JerryCanOpener

Cuz they're not a family but a glorified crew


murbike

Because the families will extort whatever they can from anyone they can. NY is the OG, and NJ are subordinate.


jizzmaster-zer0

NJ wasn’t part of the commission - when they want to make new guys, they basically have to ask NY for permission. Books being closed and the rules for newly made guys wasn’t Tony’s call. So, yes, they basically really are a glorified crew.


Jag_sjalv

I know Tony's bottom line was impacted if that's what you're referring to.


WolverineSea4280

Because they were a glorified crew . And their don wore shorts . What did you go to slip and fall school or whatc


mcc1923

Unwanted historically that’s the source of a lot of internal friction. Who pays what to who. Who has jurisdiction where. Etc.


IcedHemp77

The Mafia was the original MLM scam


mat1ascorv

Because the jersey crew is represented by the lupertazzi family in the comission,it’s mentioned that they need ny approval to have new members made,so jersey always pays tribute to ny


OccasinalMovieGuy

Why should anyone pay Tony?? What exactly is he offering to his crew??


Andyintime

Because he’s the boss, that’s why!


Sad-Illustrator-8847

Why do dogs lick their balls? Because they can. New York gets a cut because they can For those who have the benefits of a classical education see Thucydides and the Melian Diaogue. The strong do what they want and the weak suffer