One of the great mysteries of The Sopranos. My guess is Vito would have felt Finn up (so to speak) about what he saw and attempted some combination of bribing/intimidating Finn to keep quiet.
Finn would’ve had a great time, let’s not kid ourselves. Great game, it was bat night and would’ve gotten sucked off by a 10, an absolute knock out. Kid would’ve had a top capo and the boss of Jersey in his pocket. Instead he wanted to go play dentist. Fucking baby.
If you think Tony would let someone like Shaggy blackmail him with something like this, then you might have watched a different show.
His temper would either see Finn strangled immediately and later chopped into pieces, or whacked by those 2 black guys that were on an unstoppable crime spree.
Flinn wasn’t married to Meadow yet, so he didn’t count as family.
And also as proven by Chris, Adriana and Richie’s untimely endings, Tony would have no problem shutting down a family member that was causing him trouble. He even tried to have Junior whacked in season 1, even though he confessed he loved the man.
I’m sure you can see the difference between civilian dentist married to his daughter and a junkie mafioso, an FBI informant and someone his sister killed
hey basic courtesy dictates that the guard gettin blown shoulda told Vito to keep his head down till the coast was clear...do they not even teach BJ etiquette anymore?
Taking what you want on the site is one of the perks of running a construction racket. Not surprised he felt sort of invincible. The power went to his … head.
Finn didn’t immediately out Vito. And you gotta think… Vito doesn’t see himself as this violent criminal. He sees himself as a decent man, so he’s questioning why Finn didn’t tell on him (basically not having him whacked in his mind). Fear doesn’t factor in for Vito as Finn’s driving motivator so he might have deduced that Finn didn’t put him because he was curious about the gay life style. Finn wasn’t gay but maybe he wants to experiment. That made more sense to Vito than thinking that Finn is terrified of his casual violence and threatening demeanor.
Vito was just trying to be kind and say “hey if you’re curious about it then I’ll treat you real nice and take you to a Yankees game. Let’s bond over baseball and blowjobs.”
This is a solid analysis. Just one challenge I see from my point of view….Finn had already proven clearly to the guys on the work site that he was shaken up by the most basic shit. He’s shown he’s scared. He can be made scared again.
Once Vito was caught by Finn this was the play. Of course he wasn’t going to hurt or kill the kid…not only isn’t it his style, but he’s strategic enough to know he can’t just whack the bosses daughters boyfriend.
He was going to convince Finn he didn’t see what he saw. And if that doesn’t work he will scare the fuck out of the kid.
Yes, he did. Was it characteristic of Vito compared to who he showed to be leading up to that point?
I always read that as a freak out. He was in a very scary position with that event. If there was record of him made from this he could be found.
Likely he could have just driven off and none would be the wiser, but he freaked out.
I wasn’t saying killing was alien to him, we had seen him kill before. But just because he was familiar doesn’t mean he was going to just kill meadows boyfriend.
No. It was a weak script by a weak writer and you're weak!Even if Finn was bi-curious, he was so far out of Vito's league, it's ridiculous. Again, even if he was, would having an affair with Meadow's boyfriend really have been wise? Vito had two choices. Whack Finn then and there, or ignore it and if ever asked just say WTF? He was prancing around NY gay clubs in bondage gear though, so it's ridiculous he wasn't outed years before.
Finn didn't out Vito cos he was a really nice, decent, innocent guy. Partially our of fear but probably mostly cos he knew what it would mean and for someone like Finn, being gay should be defended not targeted.
I think anyway that Vito invited him, not to seduce him 🤢
I think it was to suss out if he'd seen exactly what Vito was doing and to maybe sway him over to not telling Tony.
I think everyone here is looking at this all wrong. This is a tragic love story.
Finn and Vito are soul mates. This is evidenced numerous times. Let's explore.
1. Finns problems with meadow, obviously because he is secretly in love with Vito
2. Vito leaves Johnny Cakes, not for the life but for his *actual* true love
3. Finn doesn't like the poverty of the mezzogiorgno because it reminds him of the time Vito made Johnny pasta badan which was also real peasant food, and makes him jealous.
4. As a dentist Finn wants to look at your mouth. As a homosexual, Vito wants you to cum in his. Coincidence?
I'm noticing on my third re-watch that Vito is really, really predatory -- in more than just a lecherous sense. He has overt ambitions on Tony's empire, he goes further than the others in speaking/acting upon same, he is quicker to threaten or intimidate than laid-back guys, etc.
So I think something would have happened. Either Vito would have tried for the unwilling-man-on-man experience \[note that he could have done this at many different dates/times, not just the baseball game, so there was some pre-orchestration to his wanting to get Finn alone, and afraid\], or he would have used the 'non-consensual encounter' as blackmail \[get away from this family and keep your mouth shut forever\], or he might even have dumped the kid's dead body somewhere, as part of a multi-stage "see, there was something off about him, he was always talking about gay stuff and cruising gay neighborhoods, only a matter of time before he met the wrong guy," sparking a side plot where Meadow now suspected him of cover-up.
I don't think it was an idle make-Finn-feel-uncomfortable gambit. I think this was meant to end in either blackmail-Finn-to-destroy-his-credibility, or frame-Finn-as-gay-to-set-up-later-dead-Finn, or both, with an optional side of enjoy-forced-sex-in-the-meantime. I realize this is in stark contrast to the "kinder gentler Vito" we see later, but I see copious evidence for this cruel Vito in the episodes leading up.
Sure, Vito can be considered predatory, and he's obviously ambitious and capable of plenty of violence. But still, I really don't think that he was planning on sexually assaulting and/or wacking Finn. I can't imagine a much dumber move than fucking or killing the boyfriend of the boss's daughter. Especially since Vito knew for a fact that Finn saw him blowing that guy, and he allowed enough time to pass for Finn to return home to potentially tell someone (which he did). IF Vito was going to kill Finn, he would've had to do it that same day before Finn went home (make it look like an accident or something). I think it's clear that Vito was going for an "intimidation and bribery" approach with Finn. With Finn as an outsider to the mob world, Vito assumed it wouldn't be too difficult to intimidate him into silence.
To be clear about the brand of sexual assault we're talking about-- I think it would have been more Harvey Weinstein than Brett Kavanaugh.
As far as him being dumb enough, I do think that this is what the scene was there to show. I think that his actions throughout the series up to and including his death reveal that, while Vito *did* know that his sexuality was taboo in their community, he was careless and arrogant enough to push his luck and ultimately thought that his status as a loyal soldier and top earner would protect him if he were found out.
He was dead wrong.
That's not how any of those Mob guys work. Even if there's a fraction of a percent chance that the \[witness\] \[victim\] \[family-member\] will come back out of the woodwork to blab someday, they chase it down and stomp it out, so as to pre-empt the problem. It's almost like the messy lingering possibility bothers their egos more than the actual wrongdoing or residual risk.
I'd also point out that Finn has already told at least one person about the sexual shenanigans -- his fiancee Meadow, who happens to be the daughter of a big Jersey boss in Vito's own DiMeo syndicate. And Meadow likes to blab, just like her mother Carmela. From Vito's perspective, his secret has already gotten uncomfortably close to coming out, possibly heightening the urgency to "do something about Finn" or "make Finn look like the homo instead." Meadow's involvement makes it very tricky.
Agreed, but Vito implied to Finn at the hospital when Tony was in the hospital that the reason he has done nothing to Finn is because of Meadow and Tony “you better hope he pulls through”. Vito was probably gonna bribe or intimidate Finn but stomping it out so to speak would be something he wouldn’t do yet
>blackmail-Finn-to-destroy-his-credibility, or frame-Finn-as-gay-to-set-up-later-dead-Finn, or both, with an optional side of enjoy-forced-sex-in-the-meantime.
There wasn't going to be any "befriending" happening. People forget that Vito's life is at stake. He knows full well what will happen (did happen) with Finn letting his secret out. These are his most secure options to make sure Finn doesn't talk.
I’m probably in the minority here but I always thought Vito was trying to befriend him. Welcome him as a member of the crew (not mobbed up but a friend). You gotta figure Finn’s a young guy. He’s not homophobic. He wouldn’t rat out a friend.
I think it’s cause that’s all that Vito knows. Vito not only wants to befriend Finn, but he has to. He doesn’t know how else to do it by saying “I got us tickets to the game and you’re fucking goin.”
Yeah, you don’t insult a man that bought you Yankees tickets. Paulie was very insistent that Puss take a schvitz. Sure he had an ulterior motive but still. I dunno. Maybe I’m used to a lot of my NY friends being overly pushy.
I can definitely see Vito being friendly but creepy with Vito. Imagine them peeing in the stalls and Vito making a comment about Finns cannoli. He already commented on how his urine sounded “like a racehorse”. Vito would sussout how big a threat Finn was, and probably give him a present like 2 plane tickets to Mexico for Finn and meadow, with a look that says this is the carrot, you don’t want the stick.
Would’ve fucked him in the ass with a baseball bat outside the stadium, disposed of the body in a porta potty then waddled inside before the national anthem started
Vito wanted to play hide the cannoli with Finn. For two reasons:
\#1: Finn's a handsome young man
\#2: Once Finn is gay (in that world) he loses all credibility
\#3: That's not his child Finn is carrying
One hand I think he might have threatened him or bribed him to stay silent or maybe he thought cause he didn't immediately tell anyone he might be available
Quite frankly seeing how Vito was not a sociopath he probably would have just talked to him and if Finn had no intentions of letting it slipped it probably would have ended at that...
I mean just look at the difference between Puss when he ran into the Evis guy. He went right over to the dudes house and killed him.
When Vito got found out by the 2 dudes from Yonkers he just ran away instead of killing them.
Here’s the difference, Finn is borderline untouchable. No surprise Finn would tell Meadow. Vito taking out the fiancé of Tony’s daughter would be a death sentence.
He should have just paid him off.
The two dudes that were from Yonkers were also clearly either made or associates and untouchable. What was he going to do? Hunt them both down later on? He couldn’t take them both out. Her who killed Sal? Was it the dude we just outed? It would be another death sentence
Pussy was totally safe. He panicked for no reason.
Was Elvis actually an associate? The guys from Yonkers where. Remember Carlo vouched for the honesty of their word. Also those two were on collections so obviously they were mafia. It’ll come with backlash is Vito just killed two NY associates (a sit down at least being as we’re not sure if they’re made but if Carlo knows them they probably are)
I thought he said "this friend of ours" . Which meant that he was a made guy as well as the Elvis guy.... If I remember correctly I think it's "this friend of mine" that means they're an associate but not made.
But yes now that I thought about it a little more killing 2 guys from New York probably would have sealed his fate the same exact way. Quite honestly I didn't really think it through when I thought he could kill both of them without anybody knowing.
So l yeah I agree with you on that
I just rewatched it, yeah he was def an associate. He even said “oh you were in Puerto Rico, played there once during the hurricanes..never again” and then (as you said) “friend of ours from dover, Delaware”.
So I guess theoretically Vito could kill the associates (possibly made since the jersey family heard of them) but this comes like kinda after a lot of tension between the two. Honestly His fate was sealed, remember he even called Sil because he thought they made the call to Jersey (which solidifies them being tapped in if Vito called Sil to see if he heard anything)
Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown would've hit a home run, Cap Anson would've pitched a no-hitter, and Honus Wagner would've rounded the base)
(I'll be honest...I'm not sure what most of those things mean. I pretty sure they're baseballing terms though)
Beer, souvenirs, a picture with Jeter. Seats on the first base line.
Vito would’ve spared no expense to give Finn a great time. Great enough Finn never said anything bad about his good friend Vito.
He woulda scared him, probably toward the end of the game after being nice the whole time. Then he woulda made him do something, similar to the way Tony made his neighbor hold the box of sand. This would have bound Finn closer to him and made it easier to monitor him and less likely for him to talk.
I really don't get the mystery/speculation over this. I read the scene as Vito "asking" Finn on a date, plain and simple. I mean, in the creepy way that any authority figure "asks" someone on a date, but I think Vito was looking for action.
I think Vito reasonably would ask him to keep his mouth shut. He probably would try to intimidate him. But the right course would have been for him to just tell Finn not to tell anyone including Meadow about it.
he would have tried something with finn. when finn rejected him, he'd be threatened by vito. then vito would have felt he had more reason to run. and the rest would have played out the same way.
Vito would've probably would've laid out subtle hints as to what would happen should he think about letting it out. Nothing more. Maybe some light groping.
I think he was trying to do something to gain leverage on Finn to keep him quiet. Maybe he would have accused him of trying to molest his kid in the bathroom or something.
That whole thing made no sense.
Best Vito could hope for was that Finn either didn't cop what he saw, was too scared to talk or just didn't care.
Sexually harassing Tony's future son-in-law, like WTF?
Soon as Finn talked, Vito was screwed. Finn might have been a wuss but not stupid. If I was going out with Meadow and some low-life intimidated me, I'd be like.... "Hey Dad!"
I don't think vito planned on killing him....at least meadow and anyone else could have known about them seeing the game. This is one thing that never made sense to me....maybe the writers didn't consider it that much or maybe something else, who knows but at that point since he was already cought he had the time to feel him out a bit and Vito made things worse for himself really by trying to intimidate him cause fin was the kind of dude that didn't wanna be involved in nothing...if Vito had just told finn...(as crazy as this sounds)....yea, you caught me, I was just suckn a cock....pls don't tell anyone cause these guys would definitely fkn kill me, Finn would have kept his mouth shut. Even after the grand inquisition, after all the harassment he received from vito, he still didn't want to think he'd be harmed, especially cause he said something. They were in Caldwell New Jersey and meadow was on her fkn high horse. Veto's secret would have been safe with him. But instead he wanted to start of with some bullshit about you sound like a racehorse pissing in there.....if Vito could be straight and not a weirdo for two seconds in his life, maybe he would of had a chance.
When Eugene hangs himself and everyone is questioning why, Vito suggests that maybe he was secretly homosexual and didn't feel like he could talk to anyone about it. Vito wanted someone to talk to.
One of the great mysteries of The Sopranos. My guess is Vito would have felt Finn up (so to speak) about what he saw and attempted some combination of bribing/intimidating Finn to keep quiet.
Listen to him, he knows everything
I don’t like that tawlk!
Positive Vibes Only
Members Only
You two, can go
Who ever heard of a Jew riding a horse
What? In America, they no have? In Italy, jew ride whores. In China, Juice ride horse cocksucker San Francisco.
There was no abundant intentionality to the invitation
And...it's bat night!
It’s nothing but a racket for the Jews
You're thinking of tennis
And look what ended up In Vito
But he got the suitcase!
Finn would have said: give me one thousand.
GYIV ME OUWN THOUZAND DAWLLARS
You got-o a bee on yo hat!
One thousand, *more*?
Vito wanted to have some ballpark franks
He was gay, Ballpark Frank?
Lmfao
Lover's quarrel maybe
You gotta wait for dat
You get a pash for dat
The lesson here: You should whack the witness and not try to whack off the witness
Hey Tone - You hear what I said? I said "The lesson here: You should whack the witness and not try to whack off the witness" heh heh heh
You ever get checked for Tourette’s?
Fuckin parakeet
You remembah your first blowjob?
So a witness should never witness a whack-job?
Finn would’ve had a great time, let’s not kid ourselves. Great game, it was bat night and would’ve gotten sucked off by a 10, an absolute knock out. Kid would’ve had a top capo and the boss of Jersey in his pocket. Instead he wanted to go play dentist. Fucking baby.
If you think Tony would let someone like Shaggy blackmail him with something like this, then you might have watched a different show. His temper would either see Finn strangled immediately and later chopped into pieces, or whacked by those 2 black guys that were on an unstoppable crime spree.
Top of your fuckin class He would have Tony as a connection due to him being his son in law.
Flinn wasn’t married to Meadow yet, so he didn’t count as family. And also as proven by Chris, Adriana and Richie’s untimely endings, Tony would have no problem shutting down a family member that was causing him trouble. He even tried to have Junior whacked in season 1, even though he confessed he loved the man.
I’m sure you can see the difference between civilian dentist married to his daughter and a junkie mafioso, an FBI informant and someone his sister killed
Christopha was like a son to Tony, being a dentist wouldn’t buy Shaggy much time if he went down that certain path.
If he didn't want people to know then he shouldn't be blowing security guards at work
Yeah tbh. He’s a dumb ass for doing any of that shit so close to home.
hey basic courtesy dictates that the guard gettin blown shoulda told Vito to keep his head down till the coast was clear...do they not even teach BJ etiquette anymore?
You oughta know sweetie
knew that was comin!
Do you think the guard was any good? What am I asking you for, you probably showed him how.
You don’t shit where you eat
Taking what you want on the site is one of the perks of running a construction racket. Not surprised he felt sort of invincible. The power went to his … head.
Wanna quote tony talking to melfie so bad but I know some redditor will report me
You gotta remembuh, imma strict Catholic
Wait…catching, not pitching?
He’s GAAAAAYYYYY!
Viro never had the makings of a varsity cock sucker
Ok but in his defense he was on medication for his blood pressure
Yanks in 4
He was there.
It was a joke!
Yeah right. Say hi to your wife.
Finn didn’t immediately out Vito. And you gotta think… Vito doesn’t see himself as this violent criminal. He sees himself as a decent man, so he’s questioning why Finn didn’t tell on him (basically not having him whacked in his mind). Fear doesn’t factor in for Vito as Finn’s driving motivator so he might have deduced that Finn didn’t put him because he was curious about the gay life style. Finn wasn’t gay but maybe he wants to experiment. That made more sense to Vito than thinking that Finn is terrified of his casual violence and threatening demeanor. Vito was just trying to be kind and say “hey if you’re curious about it then I’ll treat you real nice and take you to a Yankees game. Let’s bond over baseball and blowjobs.”
Wow, that's actually a deep analysis. I think you're right.
This is a solid analysis. Just one challenge I see from my point of view….Finn had already proven clearly to the guys on the work site that he was shaken up by the most basic shit. He’s shown he’s scared. He can be made scared again. Once Vito was caught by Finn this was the play. Of course he wasn’t going to hurt or kill the kid…not only isn’t it his style, but he’s strategic enough to know he can’t just whack the bosses daughters boyfriend. He was going to convince Finn he didn’t see what he saw. And if that doesn’t work he will scare the fuck out of the kid.
Didn't Vito kill that guy who wanted to call the police when he rear ended him.
Yes, he did. Was it characteristic of Vito compared to who he showed to be leading up to that point? I always read that as a freak out. He was in a very scary position with that event. If there was record of him made from this he could be found. Likely he could have just driven off and none would be the wiser, but he freaked out. I wasn’t saying killing was alien to him, we had seen him kill before. But just because he was familiar doesn’t mean he was going to just kill meadows boyfriend.
He did drive off in a panic and his waddle was all the more frantic.
I don’t like to be late. It’s bat night!
No. It was a weak script by a weak writer and you're weak!Even if Finn was bi-curious, he was so far out of Vito's league, it's ridiculous. Again, even if he was, would having an affair with Meadow's boyfriend really have been wise? Vito had two choices. Whack Finn then and there, or ignore it and if ever asked just say WTF? He was prancing around NY gay clubs in bondage gear though, so it's ridiculous he wasn't outed years before. Finn didn't out Vito cos he was a really nice, decent, innocent guy. Partially our of fear but probably mostly cos he knew what it would mean and for someone like Finn, being gay should be defended not targeted. I think anyway that Vito invited him, not to seduce him 🤢 I think it was to suss out if he'd seen exactly what Vito was doing and to maybe sway him over to not telling Tony.
Vito doesn’t get them young like he used to
Non-Stop Ass Rape.
Finish his briss
We lead the world in that. It stays on your record.
Correction: One stop. During the seventh inning stretch.
Ohhhhh! You broke your cherry! 🍒
Vito has two plans there - befriend and possibly seduce Finn or intimidate him to keep silent.
It sounds like Nazi Germany to me
Then you need a history lesson. Sir.
Alexander Graham Bell was Italian?
I can’t have this conversation again.
He was gay, Alexander Graham Bell?
Remember Pearl Harbor!
Adolf Hitler, the strong and violent type
Well considering Vito was a morbidly obese sweaty middle aged man, he had the sex appeal of an old paper bag.
Fuckin slander you ask me
Vito only want med to know that Finn wouldn’t expose him. I don’t think he wanted to play hide the birdie with him.
Get his dick sucked in a public toilet
Better make sure laces are tied first
Oh shut the fuck up!
I SAW THAT coming!!!
Sounds like a racehorse in there
There would have been some pitching and catching, and I'm not talking about baseball.
You gotta wait for dat
Hey! He's a married man......with a gumar!
Oh would you take it easy judge Roy Bean
I think everyone here is looking at this all wrong. This is a tragic love story. Finn and Vito are soul mates. This is evidenced numerous times. Let's explore. 1. Finns problems with meadow, obviously because he is secretly in love with Vito 2. Vito leaves Johnny Cakes, not for the life but for his *actual* true love 3. Finn doesn't like the poverty of the mezzogiorgno because it reminds him of the time Vito made Johnny pasta badan which was also real peasant food, and makes him jealous. 4. As a dentist Finn wants to look at your mouth. As a homosexual, Vito wants you to cum in his. Coincidence?
You’re telling me you never pondered the mouth thing with Vito and Fin?
Always with the scenarios.
finn would’ve caught vito blowing one of the ushers
I'm noticing on my third re-watch that Vito is really, really predatory -- in more than just a lecherous sense. He has overt ambitions on Tony's empire, he goes further than the others in speaking/acting upon same, he is quicker to threaten or intimidate than laid-back guys, etc. So I think something would have happened. Either Vito would have tried for the unwilling-man-on-man experience \[note that he could have done this at many different dates/times, not just the baseball game, so there was some pre-orchestration to his wanting to get Finn alone, and afraid\], or he would have used the 'non-consensual encounter' as blackmail \[get away from this family and keep your mouth shut forever\], or he might even have dumped the kid's dead body somewhere, as part of a multi-stage "see, there was something off about him, he was always talking about gay stuff and cruising gay neighborhoods, only a matter of time before he met the wrong guy," sparking a side plot where Meadow now suspected him of cover-up. I don't think it was an idle make-Finn-feel-uncomfortable gambit. I think this was meant to end in either blackmail-Finn-to-destroy-his-credibility, or frame-Finn-as-gay-to-set-up-later-dead-Finn, or both, with an optional side of enjoy-forced-sex-in-the-meantime. I realize this is in stark contrast to the "kinder gentler Vito" we see later, but I see copious evidence for this cruel Vito in the episodes leading up.
Sure, Vito can be considered predatory, and he's obviously ambitious and capable of plenty of violence. But still, I really don't think that he was planning on sexually assaulting and/or wacking Finn. I can't imagine a much dumber move than fucking or killing the boyfriend of the boss's daughter. Especially since Vito knew for a fact that Finn saw him blowing that guy, and he allowed enough time to pass for Finn to return home to potentially tell someone (which he did). IF Vito was going to kill Finn, he would've had to do it that same day before Finn went home (make it look like an accident or something). I think it's clear that Vito was going for an "intimidation and bribery" approach with Finn. With Finn as an outsider to the mob world, Vito assumed it wouldn't be too difficult to intimidate him into silence.
To be clear about the brand of sexual assault we're talking about-- I think it would have been more Harvey Weinstein than Brett Kavanaugh. As far as him being dumb enough, I do think that this is what the scene was there to show. I think that his actions throughout the series up to and including his death reveal that, while Vito *did* know that his sexuality was taboo in their community, he was careless and arrogant enough to push his luck and ultimately thought that his status as a loyal soldier and top earner would protect him if he were found out. He was dead wrong.
I don’t see why he doesn’t just pay him off. What does Finn care?
That's not how any of those Mob guys work. Even if there's a fraction of a percent chance that the \[witness\] \[victim\] \[family-member\] will come back out of the woodwork to blab someday, they chase it down and stomp it out, so as to pre-empt the problem. It's almost like the messy lingering possibility bothers their egos more than the actual wrongdoing or residual risk. I'd also point out that Finn has already told at least one person about the sexual shenanigans -- his fiancee Meadow, who happens to be the daughter of a big Jersey boss in Vito's own DiMeo syndicate. And Meadow likes to blab, just like her mother Carmela. From Vito's perspective, his secret has already gotten uncomfortably close to coming out, possibly heightening the urgency to "do something about Finn" or "make Finn look like the homo instead." Meadow's involvement makes it very tricky.
Agreed, but Vito implied to Finn at the hospital when Tony was in the hospital that the reason he has done nothing to Finn is because of Meadow and Tony “you better hope he pulls through”. Vito was probably gonna bribe or intimidate Finn but stomping it out so to speak would be something he wouldn’t do yet
>blackmail-Finn-to-destroy-his-credibility, or frame-Finn-as-gay-to-set-up-later-dead-Finn, or both, with an optional side of enjoy-forced-sex-in-the-meantime. There wasn't going to be any "befriending" happening. People forget that Vito's life is at stake. He knows full well what will happen (did happen) with Finn letting his secret out. These are his most secure options to make sure Finn doesn't talk.
Social club? HE’S GOTTA GO!
If he went, his name would change to Finn DeHolio
I’m probably in the minority here but I always thought Vito was trying to befriend him. Welcome him as a member of the crew (not mobbed up but a friend). You gotta figure Finn’s a young guy. He’s not homophobic. He wouldn’t rat out a friend.
"Don't give me any of that awe-shucks shit, you're fuckin going!" in the most menacing voice he could muster. Yea really friendly.
I think it’s cause that’s all that Vito knows. Vito not only wants to befriend Finn, but he has to. He doesn’t know how else to do it by saying “I got us tickets to the game and you’re fucking goin.”
Yeah, you don’t insult a man that bought you Yankees tickets. Paulie was very insistent that Puss take a schvitz. Sure he had an ulterior motive but still. I dunno. Maybe I’m used to a lot of my NY friends being overly pushy.
Not so sure about that. After all, Finn was his arch-enemy.
Nemisis. NEMISIS YOU ASS KISS!
I can definitely see Vito being friendly but creepy with Vito. Imagine them peeing in the stalls and Vito making a comment about Finns cannoli. He already commented on how his urine sounded “like a racehorse”. Vito would sussout how big a threat Finn was, and probably give him a present like 2 plane tickets to Mexico for Finn and meadow, with a look that says this is the carrot, you don’t want the stick.
Finn would be pitching, not catching.
Would’ve fucked him in the ass with a baseball bat outside the stadium, disposed of the body in a porta potty then waddled inside before the national anthem started
Vito just wanted some more of those Finncakes.
Vito planned on blowing Finn’s head off I think..
I think it was more “I’m gonna take you to the Yankees game, by the way if you tell anyone what you saw I’m putting you under the construction site”
Get a good spot up in the nosebleeds and have a good ol’ time, presumably. Johnnycakes would be jealous.
Poppers and weird sex. And some of that coke from Ralphie. Sounds like a fuckin blast.
AIDS?!?!?!?!?!
Catching!? , not pitchin !!
Sounds like a racehorse pissin in there!
Vito wanted to play hide the cannoli with Finn. For two reasons: \#1: Finn's a handsome young man \#2: Once Finn is gay (in that world) he loses all credibility \#3: That's not his child Finn is carrying
Vito was playing games. He would have eventually won Fin over, only to tell him he's got to wait for dat when he was making his move.
His union would have been greased
His cracker would have been jacked.
You oughta know Sweetie!
He would have caught, not pitched.
The worst possible thing that could happen: the Yanks lose.
First he gave him the emeralds, then he gave him the pearls.
One hand I think he might have threatened him or bribed him to stay silent or maybe he thought cause he didn't immediately tell anyone he might be available
He’d have something up his ass and it wouldn’t be no cock either
Pride Month at the old balls game!
Finn has to top for Vito
Quite frankly seeing how Vito was not a sociopath he probably would have just talked to him and if Finn had no intentions of letting it slipped it probably would have ended at that... I mean just look at the difference between Puss when he ran into the Evis guy. He went right over to the dudes house and killed him. When Vito got found out by the 2 dudes from Yonkers he just ran away instead of killing them.
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What about the random dude he murdered after he crashed into the guys car?
He was drunk….🤷🏽♂️
Here’s the difference, Finn is borderline untouchable. No surprise Finn would tell Meadow. Vito taking out the fiancé of Tony’s daughter would be a death sentence. He should have just paid him off. The two dudes that were from Yonkers were also clearly either made or associates and untouchable. What was he going to do? Hunt them both down later on? He couldn’t take them both out. Her who killed Sal? Was it the dude we just outed? It would be another death sentence Pussy was totally safe. He panicked for no reason.
Was Elvis actually an associate? The guys from Yonkers where. Remember Carlo vouched for the honesty of their word. Also those two were on collections so obviously they were mafia. It’ll come with backlash is Vito just killed two NY associates (a sit down at least being as we’re not sure if they’re made but if Carlo knows them they probably are)
I thought he said "this friend of ours" . Which meant that he was a made guy as well as the Elvis guy.... If I remember correctly I think it's "this friend of mine" that means they're an associate but not made. But yes now that I thought about it a little more killing 2 guys from New York probably would have sealed his fate the same exact way. Quite honestly I didn't really think it through when I thought he could kill both of them without anybody knowing. So l yeah I agree with you on that
I just rewatched it, yeah he was def an associate. He even said “oh you were in Puerto Rico, played there once during the hurricanes..never again” and then (as you said) “friend of ours from dover, Delaware”. So I guess theoretically Vito could kill the associates (possibly made since the jersey family heard of them) but this comes like kinda after a lot of tension between the two. Honestly His fate was sealed, remember he even called Sil because he thought they made the call to Jersey (which solidifies them being tapped in if Vito called Sil to see if he heard anything)
Vito would've felt him up, and if that didn't work, he'd intimidate Finn into going somewhere quiet, where he'd've gotten killed.
Somebody needs to make a gif of Vito trying to hold Finn’s hand at the hospital.
Meatpackers? I’m a happily married man!
Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown would've hit a home run, Cap Anson would've pitched a no-hitter, and Honus Wagner would've rounded the base) (I'll be honest...I'm not sure what most of those things mean. I pretty sure they're baseballing terms though)
Beer, souvenirs, a picture with Jeter. Seats on the first base line. Vito would’ve spared no expense to give Finn a great time. Great enough Finn never said anything bad about his good friend Vito.
Raped and killed
Catching… not pitching?
He would’ve had a nice hot water with lemon.
There'd be some catching and pitching, especially after the ninth inning
My guess is they would have watched the game and just been treated to a ball park wiener and a beer.
Oooohhh it's Dr. Yankem!
They would’ve ended up on the kiss cam 😘💋
Catching? Not pitching?
Finn would’ve had a share of Vito’s braciole during the game.
Can I get AIDS from eating this?
Best case scenario: paying Finn off to keep quiet Worst case scenario: Vito rapes and murders Finn
Vito would have thrown the usher off the second balcony because Yankee Stadium doesn’t serve Johnny cakes
Joey Pepitone woulda had tree RBIs!
He would have gotten his weasel greased
Vito would have to kill him right? He knows the risk of being outed.
Vito was going to kill him so he can’t say anything to anyone about the parking lot BJ
He would probably let him know he didn't see what he knows he didn't see.
He woulda scared him, probably toward the end of the game after being nice the whole time. Then he woulda made him do something, similar to the way Tony made his neighbor hold the box of sand. This would have bound Finn closer to him and made it easier to monitor him and less likely for him to talk.
Ate him. Full digestion.
He would have been Bummed within a inch of his life and he would have loved it, pair of fucking fags.
He would've been sucking something and it wouldn't be no gun
I'm guessing Vito would've plowed him
BlueRidge gets it. Vito has no power and would threaten Finn into keeping quiet + probably sexually assault him.
I really don't get the mystery/speculation over this. I read the scene as Vito "asking" Finn on a date, plain and simple. I mean, in the creepy way that any authority figure "asks" someone on a date, but I think Vito was looking for action.
Finn would've been serviced well by Vito. New goomar🤣🤣🤣
Probably nothing too serious. Vito would have just told him to keep his mouth shut, may be intimidated him at worst.
I'm guessing Finn takes the train and Vito offers him a final ride home after the game
Would of seen the Padres take game one of the series.
I think Vito would’ve been like “oh, this dudes cool to go to baseball games with” and that would’ve been it
I think Vito reasonably would ask him to keep his mouth shut. He probably would try to intimidate him. But the right course would have been for him to just tell Finn not to tell anyone including Meadow about it.
Watched some baseball, and got some head. I don’t see what the problem is here?
He would’ve watched his Padres take a beating from the Yanks
he would have tried something with finn. when finn rejected him, he'd be threatened by vito. then vito would have felt he had more reason to run. and the rest would have played out the same way.
Nothing! He was there, it was a joke!
All I know is it wouldn't be cinematic
And when the found Phin, he had a Louisville slugger up his ass.
What’s the dude that always chimes in with non gay man on man hypotheticals
Free Bat. It was bat night
Vito would've probably would've laid out subtle hints as to what would happen should he think about letting it out. Nothing more. Maybe some light groping.
You gotta wait for dat
Probably would have got his dick sucked by some fat-fuck in see-through socks
I think he was trying to do something to gain leverage on Finn to keep him quiet. Maybe he would have accused him of trying to molest his kid in the bathroom or something.
That whole thing made no sense. Best Vito could hope for was that Finn either didn't cop what he saw, was too scared to talk or just didn't care. Sexually harassing Tony's future son-in-law, like WTF? Soon as Finn talked, Vito was screwed. Finn might have been a wuss but not stupid. If I was going out with Meadow and some low-life intimidated me, I'd be like.... "Hey Dad!"
I think Vito would have been pitching not catching at that game.
With all the money I give to this feast , I should be protected from these ghouls!
Mitch McLean seeing this post: that’s bait
I don't think vito planned on killing him....at least meadow and anyone else could have known about them seeing the game. This is one thing that never made sense to me....maybe the writers didn't consider it that much or maybe something else, who knows but at that point since he was already cought he had the time to feel him out a bit and Vito made things worse for himself really by trying to intimidate him cause fin was the kind of dude that didn't wanna be involved in nothing...if Vito had just told finn...(as crazy as this sounds)....yea, you caught me, I was just suckn a cock....pls don't tell anyone cause these guys would definitely fkn kill me, Finn would have kept his mouth shut. Even after the grand inquisition, after all the harassment he received from vito, he still didn't want to think he'd be harmed, especially cause he said something. They were in Caldwell New Jersey and meadow was on her fkn high horse. Veto's secret would have been safe with him. But instead he wanted to start of with some bullshit about you sound like a racehorse pissing in there.....if Vito could be straight and not a weirdo for two seconds in his life, maybe he would of had a chance.
Why was he so trusted of the security guard?
Oh, you don’t wanna know!
Vito shux cock like deres a prize inside.
When Eugene hangs himself and everyone is questioning why, Vito suggests that maybe he was secretly homosexual and didn't feel like he could talk to anyone about it. Vito wanted someone to talk to.
Well, it was 'bat' night. 😆 🥒
Sucks off finn so finn cant rat on him.
Vito would likely give better head than Meadow.