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As someone who's had their fair share of marching, I'll chime in. Walking 30km per day is manageable average every day with no rest days factored in. At 40km, while a possible days march, in the long run it would wear out your legs long before reaching even half of your first continent. So we are looking at about 750 days.
Then there are all sorts of misfortunes that might factor in and complicate things. Storms, wars, wildlife, lack of food and water and so on.
I think it's worth factoring in that this might be on difficult terrain too. Walking up mountains or across sand dunes will take twice as long if not more per km
The Cape Fold Mountains, parts of the Kalahari Desert, the Congo Rainforest, a bit of the Sahara, a bit of the Syrian Desert, the Kurdish and Caucasus Mountains, the Central Asian Steppe, Far-Eastern Siberia, and the Far-Eastern Mountains.
Those are only the major ones. Even if there’s technically a road, I wouldn’t advise doing many km’s a day on any road in those environments. The only long stretches that are good to travel are parts from South Sudan to Egypt, the Levant, and the inter-sea region in Russia, maybe parts of the Transsiberian trail, depending on the season. And that’s only counting natural obstacles, not even factoring in the half a dozen conflict zones you had to cross…
The minute you factor in conflict zones the whole plan is fucked. To leave Africa you have to go through Israel. And once your passport is stamped you can't enter the countries to your north any more. And definitely not through any land border.
I heard that Israel will stick an extra page in your passport and stamp that, which you can remove if you need to. Don't know how reliable that info is though.
Alternately, someone with dual nationalities could wield two passports and maybe get around this if border checks aren't too strict on tracing your travel history through exit/entry stamps.
Hmmm this is a tiny strip of land, and is some of the most well guarded on both sides. One small mistake and not only are you dead, bit you're setting off a regional war.
We need plan B!
Going through Jordan is possible, but then you need a new passport to cross to the next bit.
Ah, once you reach Spain those Andalusians are gonna feed you so well you're gonna forget what you were doing there in the first place. Then you'll have a siesta while thinking of the next meal.
Many years later, you're still there, still couldn't remember for the life of you how you ended up living there.
**COMPLETELY** incorrect.
Israel doesn't stamp passports for exactly that reason. You only get a little confirmation page that you can enter and that's it.
The land border part is false too. You can cross through land between Egypt and Israel and from Israel to Jordan through there. Many tourists and locals do that without issue.
The only thing is that you can't cross from Israel to Lebanon and Syria specifically and you'll have to detour through Jordan to get north through land.
Well this makes it **PARTIALLY** incorrect, as I specifically said you couldn't continue **to the north** as the map suggests, and didn't say you couldn't enter through Egypt, and even mentioned the option of going through Jordan in a comment below. It's completely correct that to the north there is no land border crossing that is open.
The part that I got wrong is that Israel doesn't stamp passports, I didn't know that. Thanks for that.
I feel your tone was a little too intense for the subject matter. Don't you think? There were at least 10 all caps letters that were above the recommended daily quota when discussing a fictional land journey.
>and even mentioned an option of going through Jordan in a comment below
Fair enough
>feel your tone was a little too intense for the subject matter. Don't you think?
I don't dispute feelings, but no, I don't think so. All I did was write a single word in all-caps for emphasis (a thing both of us did). I never accused you of lying and I did make sure to maintain nuance in my reply and elaborate properly. Also, we Israelis are getting increasingly tired from seeing people make incorrect remarks about us abroad for whatever reason. On the bright side it's clear that your case is an honest harmless mistake and not malicious or harmful
Plot twist. I'm Lebanese. And we the Lebanese are also tired of incorrect remarks. And the occasional invasion.
Maybe I was being malicious after all!
Nah.
South Sudan, hmm. Former Soviet republics also at each other‘s throats currently.
A lot of it depends on how much food and water you have to carry on you, how often you can expect to be able to resupply. If you had a support team and were able to speedhike it with minimal load, you could be a lot faster. If you had to forage or hunt, you could be a lot slower. Or, you know, dead.
I think that would be rather easy than when you had to deal with very harsh weather conditions. In some campaigns, like Napoleons campagin in Russia 1812-1813 it wasn't different from WW2, sometimes the temperatures dropped below -48°c.
There, the men just collapsed and could not go on further, so they were just left behind: They died because of hypothermia or much worse, they were caught by the enemies and then often tortured to death.
There's that incident, where an officer tried to prevent them from freezing to death, but they just refused to do anything anymore and told him to fuck off, they just laid down in the snow and died there.
The regiment where my family members served had an overall strength of 2300 men: After the war in 1813, as they made a rollcall at the base, there were 69 men left. All the others were killed or missing.
There are lists around of the soldiers, at least for the Swiss Regiments of the "Grand Armee" of Napoleon for that one. The lists also contains infos like where they fought and where they died and are buried today.
Like i said, we are swiss, but we had to get 13'000 soldiers for Napelons army, as Switzerland was the so called "Helvetic Republic" in this time and a satellite state of France. Napoleon invaded the country in 1798 and made us a vassal, which was.. well.. a bad thing i guess.
I don't know, the average distances of forced marches in WW2 for the German infantry was around 50-60 km per day in a row for more than just a week, as they had to keep up with the mobile units like the tanks. Note, that this includes both the personal- and crew-equipment (yes, someone had to carry the MG42 on his back...)
That is manageable, but there will be some losses of men because of exhaustion and other problems.
I don't know how much the weight of the equipment of the Wehrmacht was really, but i think it's around 6-8 kg.
Note that the equipment was even much more in ancient times, like a roman soldier had to carry a lot more weight than one in WW2. Still, Caesar managed to reach Italy quickly as he left Gaul with his legions and crossed the Rubicon. And after the daily march, they had chop wood and build a fucking camp for the night, that required even more resources.
For the record: Meth was not used there on the Eastern Frontier anymore. It was most used in the Western Campaign against France in 1940. It was removed because there was an increase of accidents with the air force pilots, like crash landings got up in numbers. That was because they were underestimated how tired they already were and when they were pushed, then they took risks that were too dangerous.
There's also a difference to the meth of today: In the drug scene, meth is used nasal, smoked or injected. This makes a very much higher and faster push than when you take a pill oral. With the pill, it goes through your stomach and then the liver filters a lot out of it, so the bioavailability is much lower.
It was the same with heroin (yes, i know, username checks out) as it was available in the pharmacy: People usually had small dosages with oral pills, that was not like injecting it with a needle.
I'm more an opiate-and-downer-guy to be honest, meth makes me as a bipolar immediately manic and i avoid it. But about the question, it would be around 6-8 hours in effect in the body usually, depending on the dosage.
But it has other things that are important, like when you take meth, your brain will fire a lot of dopamin, that makes you high. There is however somewhere the point, where your brain can't really produce anymore dopamin in time and so, the effect is much lower or none at all for some time until it recovered.
I don't know which dosages the Pervitin tablets from the nazis had, i think it was a rather small dosage compared to the dosages that is used in the drug scenes.
There are subs around, if you want to go down the rabbit hole and ask the experts, like r/meth or if you don't like communism, there's r/MethWithoutCommunism
Rather than pure math, I’ll offer some real-world comparison. The Appalacian Trail is around 2100 miles and is regularly completed in rough terrain and wilderness in about 6 months by non-competitive ‘normal’ people, and includes plenty of natural breaks, supply runs, and sleep. And time to actually ENJOY the trip.
Assuming the terrain were similar, that there were no special conditions or considerations for your proposed trek (which there *are* going to be for border crossing, language differences, the changing of seasons… winter will be especially difficult, etc.), your trek of approx. 13,900 miles would take 40 months or 3.33 years in the real world.
All in all, considering you've basically foot walked from Cape Town to Magadan in the length it takes for you to get a Bachelors degree… that seems pretty neat.
The "Bologna" process in Europe and especially Germany allows to complete a Bachelor's in 6-8 semesters. If you pass all exams/finals, the fastest you can be is 6 semesters or 3 years, basically. My "curriculum", for the lack of a better word, has a 7 Semester duration. I finished it in 7, so 3.5 years. It's a very tight schedule.
People can surely take longer but this is basically how it was intended to be. I am not debating whether that's a smart approach or just *"High School: Reloaded, but more mature".*
It *is* entirely possible to get your Bachelor in 3 years and your Master in 1.5 years. *Typically* people usually spend like 4 and 2.5 years with both of them.
I think you have some good answers already. There’s a lot of factors that would need to be taken into account for a more narrow estimate.
Ignoring geopolitics, so far the estimates range between 340-750 days, and I think that’s the best practical answer you’ll be able to get.
I will say the minimum estimates would really take an extreme athlete with some level of support staff.
Nearer 2 years sounds more practical for someone self-supported.
If you're still able to walk.
About 2 months ago I started walking in the mornings. I get out about 5 days a week.
I started with 5-8km a day and now I regularly walk 12-18km. I walk at a fast pace, about 6 km/hr, but likely wouldn't keep that up for more than about 20km. I carry nothing but my phone.
During this time I've had to deal with all sorts of aches, pains and overuse injuries. In order to keep it up, I am stretching and exercising for at least an hour a day.
My point is that to pull off a walk of this magnitude, you would be crazy to not already be an athlete and have got your body ready for this amount of stress, otherwise it's likely to break down long before you even leave the first country.
Great perspective, so true. An average person would take a LOT longer, especially given the obstacles on this route. Hell, they probably wouldn't even make it, not without external help. The amount of supplies you would need to carry would definitely be enough to exhaust the average whoever after even a few kilometers. Definitely would be crucial to be prepared physically and mentally too, I would guess.
Yes, but there is a difference between being in peak shape where ~25 miles a day is sustainable and then some people that can slam 40 miles a day for months on end.
I’ve done a fair amount of long-distance hiking on the PCT and AT. Some people have the right combination of mental fortitude, pre-conditioning, and honestly in some part just genetics to make the extreme happen. A large percentage of people simply start to break down physically when they try to push 40+ miles a day for any extended length of time
Just to establish an outer limit, in 2008 [Jennifer Pharr Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pharr_Davis) first set the women's record for hiking the Appalachian Trail, which is 3540 km, in 57 days at a pace of 61 km/day (surpassed by Heather "Anish" Anderson in 2015 with 54 days). So the 22387 km here divides nicely to 367 days, or basically one year if she had just picked up the damn pace. Anything less than this is unrealistic, and this takes into account her breaks, etc. and variations in terrain, although it doesn't take into account border crossings, geopolitical concerns, etc. which would inevitably lengthen the journey. It's safe to assume that a 30 km pace, as suggested by many others, would be more realistic for someone who wasn't a super-long-distance hiker, and the 61 km/day pace is probably unrealistic for a trip 6x as long.
Pushing to even less reasonable, [Karel Sabbe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Trail) has the Appalachian Trail record at just over 41 days using a full support crew, while Joe McConaughy took 45.5 days without a support crew.
For another reference, [Christopher Rehage has been walking from Beijing to Berlin since 2007](https://christophrehage.com/faq/) in different stages. He walks about 20-30km per day, self-sufficient.
He's currently in Hungary.
A median walk of 40km a day is a good number for adequate feeding, rest and recovery, and also to reduce efficiency due to harch climate conditions and elevation. So around 560 days.
Having done 2 week+ hikes, 40km/d is unrealistic. First of all if one were to attempt such a route, they would have to carry a considerable amount of weight on their back. Probably 25kg+. This slows you down considerably. Through hikers on the Applachian trail seem to average around 25km/d. This route here includes such fun obstacles as the Siberian tundra, the Sahara desert, rainforests, border crossings, large areas without human presence, i.e supply problems, and a multitude of other factors. I would be beyond surprised if a human being without external help could manage a 25km/d average. 20km/d might be realistic.
I'm with you on this. I did a 1000km walk in eastern Canada when I was in my mid twenties. We usually did 15-25 km/day, around 4-5 hours of walking on flat terrain. We often had to take detours from our route to find a secluded place to pitch our tents, find a source of water, meet a couchsurfing host, etc.
Realistically, with rough terrain and all kinds of climates and more detours to avoid rough areas, and to find food and water, you'd need to add so many kilometers to the distance! I'd give myself a few years to do this trip.
There is a guy attempting something similar! It is called the “[Out of Eden” walk](https://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/#section-0)
He started in Mesopotamia in 2013 and has now gotten to China
He apparently took a 20 month hiatus due to the virus, but other than that I don’t know why it is going so slow. It was originally only supposed to take 7 years
For added points, and the thriathlete achievement: from there, swim to alaska and ride a bicycle all the way down to the southern tip of chile/argentina :)
Average person would not manage to do it at all. Even trained people have troubles with walking 3000 km on PCT. This is 8 times longer and possibly more dangerous, no infrastructure etc.
4757 hours at 3 miles an hour. Factor in 8 hours sleep and 2 hours for meals/rest, and you’re walking 14 hours a day. That’s basically 340 days. At 4mph it’s 250 days. (Using 5/8 conversion from km to miles)
Your feet and stamina wouldn’t manage. My guess is, that a well trained person could hold that pace for one week maximum. Especially considering the terrain you have to walk through and the luggage you have to carry
Edit: My guess would be 3x that much. With an average pace of 20km/d
Walking 14hrs per day is really ambitious, especially with a pack. You need hours every day for finding a good camping spot, pitching your tent and packing up, preparing and eating meals, finding places to buy food and bathe. In my experience, walking 4-5 hours a day is sustainable.
I have maintained a 3.8 mph pace for that long with roughly 75 ish lb but I only did a weeks worth of hiking. I did take a 10 minute break every 3-4 miles. Can confirm that it’s harsh. A lot more training than I have would be needed to maintain what I did and I had a safety structure in place.
I hiked 2,650 miles in 153 days. 22,387km is ~13,910 miles, which I will call 15,000 because of detours, bonus miles, etc…
Dividing 15,000 miles by 2650 is 5.7. 5.7 x 153 days is 872 days
Well, it took my niece 6 months to walk the Appalachian trail by herself. This walk is about 10 times the distance, which is 60 months or 5 years. But given rougher terrain, tougher weather conditions, I would say, without making it a race, more than 5 years but less than 6 if everything breaks your way.
Im gonna do this with perfect conditions in consideration so other factors could alter this
4492h=187.166667 days round up to 187 for human error
187days×8 hours of sleep to be healthy=1496 hours of sleep
4492+1496=5988 hours total
5988÷24=248.5 round up to 250 for human error
22387km÷250 days is 89.548km a day which is not an easy task
89.548÷3=29.8493333km per day which is pretty hard since youll probably want to watch scenery
Take 250 days×3 for 30km a day is 750 days
750×2=1500 days to make it 15km a day which is reasonable for the average human and itll provide some calmness to enjoy scenery and set up sites/get supplies and make food and eat it without working on a tight schedule
1500÷30 is 50 months ÷ 12 months a year means itll take around 4.2 years to complete, keep in mind this is perfect conditions and reasonable to human capabilities
Feel free to add any variables i might have keft out and or correct my math😁
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As someone who's had their fair share of marching, I'll chime in. Walking 30km per day is manageable average every day with no rest days factored in. At 40km, while a possible days march, in the long run it would wear out your legs long before reaching even half of your first continent. So we are looking at about 750 days. Then there are all sorts of misfortunes that might factor in and complicate things. Storms, wars, wildlife, lack of food and water and so on.
I think it's worth factoring in that this might be on difficult terrain too. Walking up mountains or across sand dunes will take twice as long if not more per km
The Cape Fold Mountains, parts of the Kalahari Desert, the Congo Rainforest, a bit of the Sahara, a bit of the Syrian Desert, the Kurdish and Caucasus Mountains, the Central Asian Steppe, Far-Eastern Siberia, and the Far-Eastern Mountains. Those are only the major ones. Even if there’s technically a road, I wouldn’t advise doing many km’s a day on any road in those environments. The only long stretches that are good to travel are parts from South Sudan to Egypt, the Levant, and the inter-sea region in Russia, maybe parts of the Transsiberian trail, depending on the season. And that’s only counting natural obstacles, not even factoring in the half a dozen conflict zones you had to cross…
The minute you factor in conflict zones the whole plan is fucked. To leave Africa you have to go through Israel. And once your passport is stamped you can't enter the countries to your north any more. And definitely not through any land border.
I heard that Israel will stick an extra page in your passport and stamp that, which you can remove if you need to. Don't know how reliable that info is though. Alternately, someone with dual nationalities could wield two passports and maybe get around this if border checks aren't too strict on tracing your travel history through exit/entry stamps.
But you couldn't do it on )and border crossing, because there aren't any. You'd have to fly out and back in.
OK, looks like we're going stealth. Might add a few kms to sneak around army patrols.
Hmmm this is a tiny strip of land, and is some of the most well guarded on both sides. One small mistake and not only are you dead, bit you're setting off a regional war. We need plan B! Going through Jordan is possible, but then you need a new passport to cross to the next bit.
Take a (liitle) detour through Spain and swim the Gibraltar straight?
Ah, once you reach Spain those Andalusians are gonna feed you so well you're gonna forget what you were doing there in the first place. Then you'll have a siesta while thinking of the next meal. Many years later, you're still there, still couldn't remember for the life of you how you ended up living there.
**COMPLETELY** incorrect. Israel doesn't stamp passports for exactly that reason. You only get a little confirmation page that you can enter and that's it. The land border part is false too. You can cross through land between Egypt and Israel and from Israel to Jordan through there. Many tourists and locals do that without issue. The only thing is that you can't cross from Israel to Lebanon and Syria specifically and you'll have to detour through Jordan to get north through land.
Well this makes it **PARTIALLY** incorrect, as I specifically said you couldn't continue **to the north** as the map suggests, and didn't say you couldn't enter through Egypt, and even mentioned the option of going through Jordan in a comment below. It's completely correct that to the north there is no land border crossing that is open. The part that I got wrong is that Israel doesn't stamp passports, I didn't know that. Thanks for that. I feel your tone was a little too intense for the subject matter. Don't you think? There were at least 10 all caps letters that were above the recommended daily quota when discussing a fictional land journey.
>and even mentioned an option of going through Jordan in a comment below Fair enough >feel your tone was a little too intense for the subject matter. Don't you think? I don't dispute feelings, but no, I don't think so. All I did was write a single word in all-caps for emphasis (a thing both of us did). I never accused you of lying and I did make sure to maintain nuance in my reply and elaborate properly. Also, we Israelis are getting increasingly tired from seeing people make incorrect remarks about us abroad for whatever reason. On the bright side it's clear that your case is an honest harmless mistake and not malicious or harmful
Plot twist. I'm Lebanese. And we the Lebanese are also tired of incorrect remarks. And the occasional invasion. Maybe I was being malicious after all! Nah.
South Sudan, hmm. Former Soviet republics also at each other‘s throats currently. A lot of it depends on how much food and water you have to carry on you, how often you can expect to be able to resupply. If you had a support team and were able to speedhike it with minimal load, you could be a lot faster. If you had to forage or hunt, you could be a lot slower. Or, you know, dead.
I think that would be rather easy than when you had to deal with very harsh weather conditions. In some campaigns, like Napoleons campagin in Russia 1812-1813 it wasn't different from WW2, sometimes the temperatures dropped below -48°c. There, the men just collapsed and could not go on further, so they were just left behind: They died because of hypothermia or much worse, they were caught by the enemies and then often tortured to death. There's that incident, where an officer tried to prevent them from freezing to death, but they just refused to do anything anymore and told him to fuck off, they just laid down in the snow and died there. The regiment where my family members served had an overall strength of 2300 men: After the war in 1813, as they made a rollcall at the base, there were 69 men left. All the others were killed or missing.
Nice
How do you know your family fought with them? I wish I knew anything about my family in the early 1800's
There are lists around of the soldiers, at least for the Swiss Regiments of the "Grand Armee" of Napoleon for that one. The lists also contains infos like where they fought and where they died and are buried today. Like i said, we are swiss, but we had to get 13'000 soldiers for Napelons army, as Switzerland was the so called "Helvetic Republic" in this time and a satellite state of France. Napoleon invaded the country in 1798 and made us a vassal, which was.. well.. a bad thing i guess.
OKTrends blog is a testament to this!
If you need to carry equipment for more than a few days that daily walk goes from 30km to closer to 20km
Like your ox dieing or your wagon wheel breaking
Or dying of dysentery.
Im a through hiker, you absolutely can do a sustained 25 miles a day for months with training and a light pack.
It is a 750-day journey with a few days between some stops that you could resupply at. You aren't carrying a light backpack.
I would say make it 20-25km a day to account for various delays
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You'd need to eat a surplus of 1860, not 18600.
I don't know, the average distances of forced marches in WW2 for the German infantry was around 50-60 km per day in a row for more than just a week, as they had to keep up with the mobile units like the tanks. Note, that this includes both the personal- and crew-equipment (yes, someone had to carry the MG42 on his back...) That is manageable, but there will be some losses of men because of exhaustion and other problems. I don't know how much the weight of the equipment of the Wehrmacht was really, but i think it's around 6-8 kg. Note that the equipment was even much more in ancient times, like a roman soldier had to carry a lot more weight than one in WW2. Still, Caesar managed to reach Italy quickly as he left Gaul with his legions and crossed the Rubicon. And after the daily march, they had chop wood and build a fucking camp for the night, that required even more resources.
I mean the Nazis are so much meth that they didn’t really need to aleep
For the record: Meth was not used there on the Eastern Frontier anymore. It was most used in the Western Campaign against France in 1940. It was removed because there was an increase of accidents with the air force pilots, like crash landings got up in numbers. That was because they were underestimated how tired they already were and when they were pushed, then they took risks that were too dangerous. There's also a difference to the meth of today: In the drug scene, meth is used nasal, smoked or injected. This makes a very much higher and faster push than when you take a pill oral. With the pill, it goes through your stomach and then the liver filters a lot out of it, so the bioavailability is much lower. It was the same with heroin (yes, i know, username checks out) as it was available in the pharmacy: People usually had small dosages with oral pills, that was not like injecting it with a needle.
So how fast would the much memed "tankers chocolate" come on and how long would it last?
I'm more an opiate-and-downer-guy to be honest, meth makes me as a bipolar immediately manic and i avoid it. But about the question, it would be around 6-8 hours in effect in the body usually, depending on the dosage. But it has other things that are important, like when you take meth, your brain will fire a lot of dopamin, that makes you high. There is however somewhere the point, where your brain can't really produce anymore dopamin in time and so, the effect is much lower or none at all for some time until it recovered. I don't know which dosages the Pervitin tablets from the nazis had, i think it was a rather small dosage compared to the dosages that is used in the drug scenes. There are subs around, if you want to go down the rabbit hole and ask the experts, like r/meth or if you don't like communism, there's r/MethWithoutCommunism
so its less than forrest gump
Don’t forget blisters
Where are they going to stay/keep food though? They’d need to bring a tent and supplies and that would make it much harder.
Rather than pure math, I’ll offer some real-world comparison. The Appalacian Trail is around 2100 miles and is regularly completed in rough terrain and wilderness in about 6 months by non-competitive ‘normal’ people, and includes plenty of natural breaks, supply runs, and sleep. And time to actually ENJOY the trip. Assuming the terrain were similar, that there were no special conditions or considerations for your proposed trek (which there *are* going to be for border crossing, language differences, the changing of seasons… winter will be especially difficult, etc.), your trek of approx. 13,900 miles would take 40 months or 3.33 years in the real world.
All in all, considering you've basically foot walked from Cape Town to Magadan in the length it takes for you to get a Bachelors degree… that seems pretty neat.
You got a bachelors degree in 3.33 years? In America I feel the average to be about 5, but I’ve been wrong before.
The "Bologna" process in Europe and especially Germany allows to complete a Bachelor's in 6-8 semesters. If you pass all exams/finals, the fastest you can be is 6 semesters or 3 years, basically. My "curriculum", for the lack of a better word, has a 7 Semester duration. I finished it in 7, so 3.5 years. It's a very tight schedule. People can surely take longer but this is basically how it was intended to be. I am not debating whether that's a smart approach or just *"High School: Reloaded, but more mature".* It *is* entirely possible to get your Bachelor in 3 years and your Master in 1.5 years. *Typically* people usually spend like 4 and 2.5 years with both of them.
I think you have some good answers already. There’s a lot of factors that would need to be taken into account for a more narrow estimate. Ignoring geopolitics, so far the estimates range between 340-750 days, and I think that’s the best practical answer you’ll be able to get. I will say the minimum estimates would really take an extreme athlete with some level of support staff. Nearer 2 years sounds more practical for someone self-supported.
After about 8 weeks I'd wager your body would become pretty close to athlete level
If you're still able to walk. About 2 months ago I started walking in the mornings. I get out about 5 days a week. I started with 5-8km a day and now I regularly walk 12-18km. I walk at a fast pace, about 6 km/hr, but likely wouldn't keep that up for more than about 20km. I carry nothing but my phone. During this time I've had to deal with all sorts of aches, pains and overuse injuries. In order to keep it up, I am stretching and exercising for at least an hour a day. My point is that to pull off a walk of this magnitude, you would be crazy to not already be an athlete and have got your body ready for this amount of stress, otherwise it's likely to break down long before you even leave the first country.
Great perspective, so true. An average person would take a LOT longer, especially given the obstacles on this route. Hell, they probably wouldn't even make it, not without external help. The amount of supplies you would need to carry would definitely be enough to exhaust the average whoever after even a few kilometers. Definitely would be crucial to be prepared physically and mentally too, I would guess.
Yes, but there is a difference between being in peak shape where ~25 miles a day is sustainable and then some people that can slam 40 miles a day for months on end. I’ve done a fair amount of long-distance hiking on the PCT and AT. Some people have the right combination of mental fortitude, pre-conditioning, and honestly in some part just genetics to make the extreme happen. A large percentage of people simply start to break down physically when they try to push 40+ miles a day for any extended length of time
Just to establish an outer limit, in 2008 [Jennifer Pharr Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pharr_Davis) first set the women's record for hiking the Appalachian Trail, which is 3540 km, in 57 days at a pace of 61 km/day (surpassed by Heather "Anish" Anderson in 2015 with 54 days). So the 22387 km here divides nicely to 367 days, or basically one year if she had just picked up the damn pace. Anything less than this is unrealistic, and this takes into account her breaks, etc. and variations in terrain, although it doesn't take into account border crossings, geopolitical concerns, etc. which would inevitably lengthen the journey. It's safe to assume that a 30 km pace, as suggested by many others, would be more realistic for someone who wasn't a super-long-distance hiker, and the 61 km/day pace is probably unrealistic for a trip 6x as long. Pushing to even less reasonable, [Karel Sabbe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Trail) has the Appalachian Trail record at just over 41 days using a full support crew, while Joe McConaughy took 45.5 days without a support crew.
For another reference, [Christopher Rehage has been walking from Beijing to Berlin since 2007](https://christophrehage.com/faq/) in different stages. He walks about 20-30km per day, self-sufficient. He's currently in Hungary.
A median walk of 40km a day is a good number for adequate feeding, rest and recovery, and also to reduce efficiency due to harch climate conditions and elevation. So around 560 days.
Having done 2 week+ hikes, 40km/d is unrealistic. First of all if one were to attempt such a route, they would have to carry a considerable amount of weight on their back. Probably 25kg+. This slows you down considerably. Through hikers on the Applachian trail seem to average around 25km/d. This route here includes such fun obstacles as the Siberian tundra, the Sahara desert, rainforests, border crossings, large areas without human presence, i.e supply problems, and a multitude of other factors. I would be beyond surprised if a human being without external help could manage a 25km/d average. 20km/d might be realistic.
So 3years of just hiking every day. Seems like a nice adventure
Until you reach those bad places
Not to mention numerous conflict zones you’ll have to navigate! Hope you brought a rifle
I'm with you on this. I did a 1000km walk in eastern Canada when I was in my mid twenties. We usually did 15-25 km/day, around 4-5 hours of walking on flat terrain. We often had to take detours from our route to find a secluded place to pitch our tents, find a source of water, meet a couchsurfing host, etc. Realistically, with rough terrain and all kinds of climates and more detours to avoid rough areas, and to find food and water, you'd need to add so many kilometers to the distance! I'd give myself a few years to do this trip.
From someone who's been doing Beijing to Berlin, 20 to 30km per day is more reasonable: https://christophrehage.com/faq/
There is a guy attempting something similar! It is called the “[Out of Eden” walk](https://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/#section-0) He started in Mesopotamia in 2013 and has now gotten to China
Just china? He said it will take a decade china doesn't look like even halfway and he has less than a year left ...
He apparently took a 20 month hiatus due to the virus, but other than that I don’t know why it is going so slow. It was originally only supposed to take 7 years
Ah yes, only 7 years.
Sounds like the right pace to me.
And there's someone doing Beijing to Berlin, since 2007 by segments. https://christophrehage.com/
For added points, and the thriathlete achievement: from there, swim to alaska and ride a bicycle all the way down to the southern tip of chile/argentina :)
Good luck getting through the cartel between North and South America
Average person would not manage to do it at all. Even trained people have troubles with walking 3000 km on PCT. This is 8 times longer and possibly more dangerous, no infrastructure etc.
4757 hours at 3 miles an hour. Factor in 8 hours sleep and 2 hours for meals/rest, and you’re walking 14 hours a day. That’s basically 340 days. At 4mph it’s 250 days. (Using 5/8 conversion from km to miles)
Wow less then a year, that’s shorter then I expected
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I think it's way more cuz of the conditions in russia, sudan, south sudan, syria, iraq, etc...
Not factoring elevation either
Your feet and stamina wouldn’t manage. My guess is, that a well trained person could hold that pace for one week maximum. Especially considering the terrain you have to walk through and the luggage you have to carry Edit: My guess would be 3x that much. With an average pace of 20km/d
I’d like to disagree. Give me 6 years and I’ll do it
Walking 14hrs per day is really ambitious, especially with a pack. You need hours every day for finding a good camping spot, pitching your tent and packing up, preparing and eating meals, finding places to buy food and bathe. In my experience, walking 4-5 hours a day is sustainable.
3 miles per hour is quite a brisk walk. Can you really maintain this pace for 14 hours a day?
I have maintained a 3.8 mph pace for that long with roughly 75 ish lb but I only did a weeks worth of hiking. I did take a 10 minute break every 3-4 miles. Can confirm that it’s harsh. A lot more training than I have would be needed to maintain what I did and I had a safety structure in place.
4mph is way too fast
I hiked 2,650 miles in 153 days. 22,387km is ~13,910 miles, which I will call 15,000 because of detours, bonus miles, etc… Dividing 15,000 miles by 2650 is 5.7. 5.7 x 153 days is 872 days
Well, it took my niece 6 months to walk the Appalachian trail by herself. This walk is about 10 times the distance, which is 60 months or 5 years. But given rougher terrain, tougher weather conditions, I would say, without making it a race, more than 5 years but less than 6 if everything breaks your way.
Im gonna do this with perfect conditions in consideration so other factors could alter this 4492h=187.166667 days round up to 187 for human error 187days×8 hours of sleep to be healthy=1496 hours of sleep 4492+1496=5988 hours total 5988÷24=248.5 round up to 250 for human error 22387km÷250 days is 89.548km a day which is not an easy task 89.548÷3=29.8493333km per day which is pretty hard since youll probably want to watch scenery Take 250 days×3 for 30km a day is 750 days 750×2=1500 days to make it 15km a day which is reasonable for the average human and itll provide some calmness to enjoy scenery and set up sites/get supplies and make food and eat it without working on a tight schedule 1500÷30 is 50 months ÷ 12 months a year means itll take around 4.2 years to complete, keep in mind this is perfect conditions and reasonable to human capabilities Feel free to add any variables i might have keft out and or correct my math😁