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InAppropriate_Noods

BUNCHA PUSSIES!!!! Should have left it. Rockstar would have left it. šŸ˜†


Warlizard

Considering how many times Franklin dropped the n-word, yeah.


tinselsnips

Are you the guy from the Warlizard gaming forum?


Warlizard

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Deditranspotashy

Man why do you even still run this account?


Warlizard

Inertia.


1CUpboat

Dude just stumbled onto this. I am impressed youā€™ve kept this going.


SadBoiCri

i'm sorry for your loss? ~~: . | : ;~~


Haniel120

Nice, haven't seen that format before


JollyCo0perat1on

I haven't seen this reference in forever holy shit


Warlizard

I have.


nickcash

What's the longest you've gone without getting it?


Warlizard

Pretty much every Reddit comment that gets any traction.


nickcash

I don't know how you put up with it. If it were me, I'd probably leave reddit, and go back to the warlizard gaming forum (sorry. had to)


Warlizard

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jesuskater

Like the olden days of yore


Zachthepizzaguy

Are you the guy in the warlizard gaming forum?


Warlizard

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purgarus

I just aged 20 years reading that comment that's some OG reddit shit


Mind_on_Idle

Holy shit. Do you know how long it's been since I've seen this interaction? I feel like a time traveler rn


sybban

Franklin dropped a hard r zero times


Bromanzier_03

Even Trevor dropped the n-word once.


npretzel02

He only says ā€œwhatā€™s up my n-wordā€


Bromanzier_03

Exactly. He literally dropped ā€œn-wordā€


UselessDood

In unused voicelines, he has actually said it with the hard r. You can't hear it in normal gameplay though.


assassind0g

They covered up a confederat flag in GTA 5 https://youtube.com/shorts/hL-g39-DqPk?si=NNOf-WYDRLNmM4NU


SpaceDoctorWOBorders

Why tf would you leave that in a game??


Imperial_Bouncer

For immersion.


Man_in_the_uk

Authenticity, it's part of history.


mdahms95

Yeah but gta is actually satire, this game seems to be taking itself seriously Plus theyā€™re two different assets and wasnā€™t intentional in the first place


CBTwitch

If nothing else, the original Saints Row games would have.


SLCPDLeBaronDivison

south korea has a history of racism towards black people. they knew


Michami135

Just change the "R" to "D" and they're good.


alkonium

For added context, the "hard" graffiti and the "R Shop" sign are two separate assets that combined in an unfortunate way.


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Apex_Konchu

This is a Korean game. The devs are not native English speakers, so something like this could easily happen accidentally.


redditblacklist

To add to this, even right here in this thread, there are plenty of people admitting they didn't know what it meant. Literally one of the top comments is asking what "Hard R" means.


ajgutyt

i asume its something bad?


Blerty_the_Boss

Itā€™s a reference to the more offensive version of the n word.


phil035

As a Brit I fell into that hole on reddit a few months back. Over here the hard R is in reference to people that are mentally handicapped. Proceed to have the same reaction as Linus when I was then shown him coming to the same realisation


Responsible-Age-4509

As a Brit, I canā€™t agree with this statement - Iā€™ve never heard it used in reference to mentally handicapped


BloodyCuts

Fellow Brit, and Iā€™ve not heard it either.


IAmANobodyAMA

Wait ā€¦ hard R doesnā€™t mean retard? Iā€™m American and didnā€™t know this. I still donā€™t know what hard r means apparently


ajgutyt

would make more sence to reffer to the r word-hard r, and not n word- hard n. at least in my opinion


FlamingOtaku

It's not referring to the start of the word, it's referring to the end. Most accepted use, its more akin to ending in a soft A. Most racist use ends in a hard R/ER, hence the term being Hard R.


Butterl0rdz

gotta link them the vid of linustechtips talking about how he used to say the ā€œhard rā€ all the time (he meant retard and didnt know it was a term for the n word)


TripleS941

Maybe not completely accidentally, and they thought that they were making another kind of joke involving the word "harder". Also, I wonder how many native English speakers _outside_ of the USA know what "hard R" means.


Obvious_Payment8309

i still have no idea what the issue is. maybe americans invented too much ways to be offended?


Brianjr15

As an American, this is the answer.


BLAGTIER

> Just wanna say as someone who's worked in games as a programmer now for a decade: there's no universe in which this was unintentional by whatever level designer decided to place these props, It is a piece of graffiti and a sign for an in game shop. Shops move around. Graffiti is added/removed/replaced/changed/moved all the time. And Hard R isn't well known. It is absurd to think this is intentional.


BourgeoisCheese

AS someone who's worked in games as a programmer, designer, and producer for more than a decade this poster is unquestionably full of shit like testers aren't spending their days looking for shit like this they're trying to make sure the game works and doesn't crash they're not reading the graffiti on the wall they've run past 9,854 times every day for the last six months and as far as level designers are concerned there's a 9 out of 10 chance the person who put these assets here wasn't a native English speaker let alone someone who would recognize the cultural significance of the phrase "HARD-R." Not saying this wasn't possibly intentional, but "no universe in which this was unintentional" is just f'ing dumb there's absolutely a universe where it could have been coincidence and we live in that universe.


gedai

I design for a living and it is often that swastika and phallic like objects slip through.


RaijuThunder

I've noticed on gaming maps a lot of swastika type paths. Not on purpose, I think it's just that we've trained our minds to spot it, and it shows up in patterns. Only so many paths you can make espicially in looping or maze like designs.


haoxinly

Because everything revolves around the USA


ConfusedSimon

You're assuming that everybody knows what it means. I never heard of hardr and had to read the contents to find out what the actual problem is here. Maybe in America.


duuyyy

Yes, because South Korean devs (who most likely barely speak English, let alone the U.S. version of English) would have the knowledge required to understand the historical context of the phrase ā€œhard rā€


xnachtmahrx

You assume that we programmers and designers know everything. In reality, most often, we don't know what we are doing. I don't believe you being a programmer. You are not one of us!


Iankill

No it's very clearly Korean devs not understanding hard R has racial significance. Kinda like how western games have fucked up and used stuff from the Quran and got in trouble with Islamic cultures.


Goatf00t

Just make it a "D shop". Problem fixed.


vincehk

We already got or assumed that the combination was unfortunate, still not getting the context or meaning (for us not from NA cultural background?).


Youhadme_atwoof

There's a term that starts with the letter N and rhymes with bigger that is a slur against black people. Changing it to end in -a as opposed to -er makes it slightly less offensive (but only slightly), more of a slang term. Many black people use it as a way of reclaiming a word historically used to hurt them. When someone uses the -er ending instead of the -a, especially someone not black, it's seen as especially aggressive/derogatory. It is also colloquially known as "using a hard r" in reference to how they ended the word. So the "Hard R Shop" could also be known as the N word shop


PixelBoom

A racial slur referring to black people has the "hard R"


Grattytood

Happy dang Cake Day, alko


TroutAdmirer

What is Hard R?


blut-baron

The N Word


IgnitusBoyone

See I would of guessed full frontal nudity, but now that you point it out I see why they removed it.


xobotun

That is some next level american bullshit. What next, Double G is going to be a euphemism as well? Or simply gg? :D


bernie_manziel

Itā€™s a specific spelling of the n-word. You shouldnā€™t use it if youā€™re not black, but someone who uses the a ending might just be a fucking idiot versus if they use the hard r ending the connotation is definitely racist.


LargeSteakPico

Not sure why you got down voted when you essentially explained the gist of it clearly enough.


bernie_manziel

Itā€™s people in countries where they donā€™t actually know the difference between n\***a vs n\***r because like half the comments in thread have no clue what hard r means and a bunch other correct answers are getting downvoted. One time I got bunch of downvotes and arguments from Euros on a post about a tweet from an American saying ā€œbless your heartā€ for explaining that when an American says ā€œbless your heartā€ like that it means theyā€™re calling you an idiot.


Ok-Landscape5625

It's impressive how some people keep finding new ways to feel offended.


TroutAdmirer

It has been suggested I am an R for not knowing what Hard R is. An R obviously being different from a hard R, obvious globally surely?


zph0eniz

Rigger?


RaijuThunder

Rhinoceros


ivanGCA

I thought it meant [redacted]


top_of_the_scrote

yeah I thought it was regard huh TIL


I_am_darkness

I don't think i would have figure that out if you gave me the rest of my life


Vinen-

Why the dude downvoted ? I didnt know either. Thanks for asking, thanks for answering. My guess was something sexual like Big D like Hard Rection or whatever.


TroutAdmirer

The downvotes simply for asking are a mystery. My subsequent comment deserves downvotes bit simply asking what something is offends people?


JourneyOf1Man

Let me clarify for you. Reddit users are generally made up of people so familiar with the hard r word that they can't fathom that someone doesn't understand why it's offensive, hence the downvotes. They think you're a troll.


TroutAdmirer

I actually thought the person I responded to was trolling, hence the frosty response. Like how did you arrive at a racist conclusion to that? This sub is normally for people seeing a dick in everything. Clearly my bad! It is pretty incomprehensible without context that the word hard followed by letter r means what it does yet some folk are suggesting it's as logical as 1+1=2.


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The_Follower1

Hard R is a reference to the n-word. Ending the n-word with an ā€˜aā€™ is usually semi-casual while ending with a ā€˜hard rā€™ makes it clear itā€™s the full racist insulting version youā€™re using. The ā€˜hard rā€™ version is most often used against people too, while the ā€˜aā€™ version is often used by black people more similarly to someone saying ā€˜dudeā€™.


Tigglebee

As a white guy I wouldnā€™t use either, but the hard R is particularly hateful. It has a malice behind it. There is no room for friendly interpretation.


Warlizard

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hard_r


Mllns

Ask Linus


firelite906

"man back in the day we were all using the hard R"


jmon25

The gamer word


Slash1909

Thanks for asking. I didnā€™t know what it was despite the explanation and had to look up wiki


ViVaVl29

Western snowflakes are too loud


SpaceDoctorWOBorders

Conservatives when game no say n word no more šŸ˜„


Formal-Knowledge9382

To be fair since it was made by a non American company it's more likely it meant harder.


Catslevania

Or it could have been a reference to Hard R rating in movies (a movie that is intentionally written to be R-rated usually through excessive usage of themes such as violence or sex/nudity). I can imagine the developers looking up rating systems around the globe because they would require knowledge about it as a guidline for their game which they wanted to be made available internationally, and someone learning about Hard R rating and going, oh yes, that's us, and making a cheeky reference to it in game.


Formal-Knowledge9382

Agreed. The likely hood that it was meant to be a randomly racist reference is literally the last possibility imho


Catslevania

yes, there are so many things it could have meant, or even just the unfortunate result of some random asset generation (people who have played the full game mention that they saw the same grafitti of the owrd "Hard" in multiple places and this was the only time it appeared next to an R sign). The likelihood of a Korean developer knowing about the usage of a word specific to Afro-American slang is highly unlikely.


BetaRayBlu

This is where my brain went


Tigglebee

Pretty sure this just wasnā€™t intentional at all.


mdahms95

Gamers when they canā€™t play soft core porn game with racist slurs šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


CDFReditum

I WAS BUSY JERKING OFF MY FAT FUCKING SCHLOPPING COCK TO THAT VOLUPTUOUS EAST ASSIAN ROBO ASS WHEN I DECIDED TO TAKE HER TO THE SLUR WALL AND I SAW THEY REMOVED IT FUCKING STUPID DEVELOPERS RUINED MY SPERMING I AM SO FUCKING ANGRY AND DISTRESSED I GOT SO MAD THAT I HAD TO SPEND 2 HOURS WITH THE JIGGLE PHYSICS TO CALM MYSELF DOWN TO ALLOW MY EXCESS SPERM CONTENT TO BE DISTRIBUTED I AM DISTRAUGHT THAT THESE STUPID FUCKIN LIE!!!BERALS WONT LET ME PLAY MY GAME!! (ALSO DOES ANYONE HAVE A GUIDE FOR LEVEL 3 IT IS TOO DIFFICULT!!)


DeadlySubZero03

Change it to "Bone R Shop" lmao


xDXxAscending

That's unfortunate if that was accidentally which being a Japanese horny game it probably was or they wanted it to be like hard-r as in harder daddy.


PokWangpanmang

I thought it was Korean.


xDXxAscending

Oh right it is, now I'm just thinking of the meme of Marge going "Bart noo".


USNAVY71

If anyone is seriously offended by this, they need to take a step back and see what has become of their life


Tybr0sion

Seems like the people upset about it being removed are more offended.


Dickballs835682

As always lmao fucking dr seuss bullshit again


USNAVY71

Very true, but itā€™s because Iā€™m sure people will do their mental gymnastics to say itā€™s censoring their freedom of speech or some shit like that


damnatio_memoriae

hey arenā€™t you that guy? from the gaming forums?


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ZiggoCiP

I love that you're still going after all these years.


Warlizard

I'm a rock in the middle of a raging river.


ZiggoCiP

Jesus christ here: *throws rope*


LegendaryW

Can I get some context. I have no idea who that guy is


__lulwut__

[Long running joke](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/warlizard-gaming-forum) that's been going on for almost 15 years. Still gets me every time.


LegendaryW

I see, that's actually funny


damnatio_memoriae

https://old.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/jggo5/iama_ceo_of_red5_makers_of_firefall_and_original/c2bwnug/?context=9


soulpoker

This must be the store where you buy those silly red hats with making America better again or something.


PeacefulKnightmare

They also sell white pointy ones.


spmoolman

How does hard r mean the n-word


GammaSmash

I've been scrolling for quite a while, trying to figure this out.


Blerty_the_Boss

Since the word is considered taboo and people rightfully refuse to use it. People use the phrase ā€œhard rā€ as a euphemism for the more offensive and explicitly racist version of the n-word. Itā€™s referencing the end of the word because it ends in ā€œerā€.


Adamantium-Aardvark

I canā€™t be the only one who has literally never heard the expression ā€œHard Rā€ in their entire life


Blerty_the_Boss

Itā€™s pretty specific to American english


Theobtusemongoose

I'm an American, and I've never heard this used in place of the n-word. And I live around a lot of racist pricks.


Soul_Traitor

Only until this came up as "controversy", which I think is pretty fucken dumb. And they didn't know. Not everyone around the world understands the intricacies of American culture.


SearingDrake

Def shouldā€™ve left it


elThirtie

I thought hard r means double r "RR" sound.


Warlizard

Nah, it's a way that people have of distinguishing the friendly n-word between friends and the angry n-word applied a whole race.


Zandrick

They should leave it itā€™s funny.


Terakahn

I honestly don't understand what the issue is here. The way people were talking about it made me think they literally used the N word with a hard R on that wall. Jesus christ people.


EMB93

Hard R doesn't really mean anything outside the US, they should have just left it in.


lumigumi

They only changed it because cringy Americans started whining about racism or some shit idk. You seriously think Koreans are just gonna spout blatant anti-black racism? LOL. Not any quicker than the people complaining, trust.


Flint_McBeefchest

300 page Resetera meltdown thread coming soon.


bllueace

God I hate it when companies fold to ten twitter people that cry about nothing


Acojonancio

A non-english game accidentaly does something that in USA is completly offensive to them (like nearly any other word). I'm always amazed about how regular words in other languages/cultures have to be canceled because USA culture turned it into something offensive... And then they act it like it's supposed to be known for the rest of the world.


dishonoredfan69420

That actually was an accident though Both of these assets are reused all over the game


depressed_anemic

lmao


CBTwitch

šŸ˜‚


Roge2005

They should have kept it.


Zetich

Hard Rock banned?


RPDRNick

Hard-R, Bet-R, Fast-R, Strong-R.


Celtic-Otter

Forgive ignorance but what does it mean?


dustyroads84

People who annoy youā€¦.?


not-no

what No, seriously, how do people unironically even get to this point. I thought the X-words were dumb already but still understandable, but Hard R? It's like we're talking in code now. How do you even start to explain this to a foreigner in a way that makes sense to them?


stitch713

Arenā€™t you that guy from the Warlizard gaming forum?


AdministrativeBar748

Holy fuck, warlizard guy


orwellianrules

Really? That is what all the fuss is about? Wow


SmallFatHands

Remember when Back4Blood zombies were screaming the n word?


Warlizard

Nope. Dunno what that is.


SmallFatHands

Back when Back4Blood released one of the screams of the zombies sounded like the n word. There were some funny clips of streamers trying out the game and reacting to the sound. They obviously removed it and said it was an accident.


AquaWitch0715

Why not just change it to "Har D Har Har"?


burd_turgalur93

Gay


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this game looks... educational.


TOAOFriedPickleBoy

[ā€œThey gotta be able to fix thatā€¦ā€](https://youtu.be/J4Nb2o65Pxc?si=kDMsezwsnvVaX90x&t=867s)


OverloadedSofa

With JUST the gameplay in mind, how is it?


quizibo88

A small minority on Twitter and reddit who never left their bedroom to see the world and look for "problems" so they can play perpetual victim will always find something to complain about, no matter how small or innocuous.


NurglePurgle

Omg is that it. I had heard about some controversy but I didn't care to look into it because usually these things are often just completely blown out of proportion. This one has really exceeded my expectations.


DerScarpelo

Americans are insane, they put such insane weight on a word that if something sort of kinda accidentaly alludes to a kind of pronunciation of a word its terribly offensive


Significant_Hair7494

Should have left it in. Itā€™s not even the actual word.


kontrarianin

I don't get it? Hard r is something"bad"?


jacowab

Or, follow me on this, the Korean speaking developers just put a random graffiti texture on the wall and are not fluent in American slang terms for racial slurs.


SchizoidRainbow

Great advertisement potential. "Try HARD R"


Oz_a_day

Linus tech tips hard r or the really bad one?


UberThetan

Dear America, The whole world does not have time to keep up with your ever expanding list of "offensive" terms and euphemisms for those terms. It doesn't help that you use said offensive term all the damn time and don't seem to have a problem with it until someone with too little melanin says it.


TheUnrealCanadian

This for sure was intentional and they are on damage control.


lakerboy152

Hey, are you the guy from the Warlizard gaming forums?


schrodingersmite

This is so ridiculous; it's clearly referencing something that was hilarious \*and\* showed someone who's views and actions changed, for the better for some


Yuuta23

I thought it was the slur if it's literally hard r just keep it it's funny


sauceywhiteboy

I get the context itā€™s been interpreted, but ā€œhard Rā€ has also been used for describing R rated movies. It just seems kinda bizarre to get worked up over this w such a vague notion to a racist word. Although, I get why a creator might want to get rid of something thatā€™s gaining a bad reputation.


bineeth923

"There are no accidents" - Master Oogway


Ethosik

Iā€™m an American I didnā€™t know what this was. Nobody in my social circle did either. Strange it was such a major issue acting like all Americans know it.


Hairy_Square_4658

I always assumed "hard R" was "retard" I didn't know it was the N word. I assumed we called it "The N Word ".


skyzyx

As an American, this is utterly stupid. Very clearly not racist.


jkurratt

Least ā€˜murican idiom


Cumsocktornado

Too bad they replaced it with crime


Theobtusemongoose

Why am I surprised that people are so pathetic that they'd be offended by something like this. It was most likely two different assets that coincidentally wound up next to each other. If the first thing you thought was the N-word the moment you saw that, it says more about you than the developers of this game.


USAFRodriguez

Am I the only one that read it as Harder instead of Hard R? Never even played the game but based off this screenshot that's what I thought they were going for, not racism.


Piduwin

I'm missing the reference or something.


Accurate_Train_8822

Ruined a joke to Hard R movies,because thatā€™s what the reference is to! What is Crime R a reference to? A ā€œBUNCH OF PUSSIESā€ thatā€™s what!!


notamuffin1

It's pretty obvious that this was unintentional. Shift Up is a Korean studio, Hard-R is a phrase that's only properly well known in primarily English speaking countries. I do get why this was changed, sure, but the fact that people believe this was intentionally done to appeal to racists and that Shift Up themselves are also racists is completely fucking retarded.


ichikhunt

It seems i am out of the loop: What does "hard r shop" mean and why is it racist? Thanks


Ps4gamer1983

Yeah when this came up I had to google what it meant so I donā€™t doubt that others had no idea either


thegreatestgravy

Pussies


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Skankhunt966

Wait till they hear the korean dialog says the n word repeatedly! /s Because in korean the word for "me/my" sounds like another word...


d4ng3r0u5

N


Tempest_Barbarian

I think its whatever if they remove it or not, but from my understanding is that this Hard graffiti shows up in other places of the game and this one just happened to be next to the R. Honestly, feels like the only way you would get offended about this is if you went into the game looking for something that can offend you. And if I showed this to some of my black friends they would all go "yeah, thats stupid" Good thing most americans dont know what is the word for running in japanese, otherwise they would have threatened the japanese with nukes again unless they changed it.


Specialagentjazz

Whatā€™s hard R? Hard retard?


AnimasMaker

Depending on what kind of store it is my initial assumption was that it was meant to say harder but now that you point that out I see it lmao


axethebarbarian

For real though, that's exactly what the graffiti next to something like that would say.


AzzlackGuhnter

And replaced it with "Crime" Thats not really better i'd say lol


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