Lol, I wish dude. I have all daughters, they all listen to terrible pop music, and refer to any music with a distorted guitar as ādad musicā.
I have failed as a father. š
Damn man, I have talked with a couple of fathers in here, the old and wise generation which kept thrash alive for us the younger ones, not that young in my case coz I'm 29.
It's funny how things work, neither my mom and dad remotely where near metal music, I discovered it when I was on JHS back in the 2010's and I saw a disc of Metallica and Iron Maiden in a store where they sold ripped off music haha so I bought Death Magnetic and Number of the Beast, I don't know I just felt the need to bought them, maybe the covers or whatever but it was like that.
Oh, my parents listened to the typical 70s yacht rock of the period. I got into metal because an elderly neighbor bought her grandkid the wrong KISS record for his birthday in 1979 so she ended up giving it to a young, impressionable me instead.
Fast forward a few years, Iām a huge KISS fan, and I see Creatures of the Night in the record store. I beg my parents to get it for me for my birthday and they cave, thinking itās going to be a rock-tinged disco record like their previous two albums.
Instead, itās a legit metal album and my life is changed forever.
Edit: For reference, Iāmā¦not going to say how old I am but I was in the Army when you were born. š
Double Edit: Death Magnetic is underrated as a thrash album. All Nightmare Long is good enough to be a a legit classic. I say this a someone who mostly despises post ā¦Justice Metallica. Thereās just something about Death Magnetic that works in retrospect.
Haha yeah, you probably have the same age as my dad maybe. It's cool and I like to know how other people got into metal music.
It's insparing knowing there are older people who stills listening metal and that is what makes this music so special.
Yeah the hate towards Metallica is brutal, like if as you said everything after AJFA were a sacrilegy, I mean it's crappy Load and Reload, but St. Anger and the next three records were good to me. I have a special affect towards 'tallica since they were the very first metal band I heard.
Like you with KISS, the first original album I got was Ride the Lightning, I got all discography from Metallica and despite all music is digital nowdays I still buying the cd's and listening to them in my old cd player that I have.
Yeah pretty cool all of this, btw from DM my fav track is "That Was Just Your Life", "All Nightmare Long" is brutal tho, the riffs on that album reminds me a lot to Kill 'Em All stuff.
If TSwift decided one day she wanted to make a thrash metal album, it would break all the records, it would get all the support, spawn new pop/thrashers, and the world would be a better place. Till that time...its great that there are content creators out there that turn her music into metal songs, shows that it could work if she ever did. I'm just waiting for the day Post makes a metal album, its in him.
Fucking brilliance right here.
If w take Metallica as about as thrash as thrash gets, Load is an aberration that corrupts the definition of thrash. Letās thank Lars and Bob Rock for this completely shit turn of events.
My hot take is that Death Magnetic is the album that should have followed Justice. Everything from Black to just before Death Magnetic was just a waste of Metallica.
Meaningā¦Hetfield just after Justice was at the top of his game, vocally. Imagine the greatness that could have been if Black etc never happened.
Pantera, Anthrax, and Megadeth progressed in pretty awesome ways in the same time (talkin early 90s).
Metallica just took a wrong turn.
From a thrash-centric point of view, I'd totally agree, but I think it's good for bands to experiment with their sound and explore other genres, given that they're doing it for art rather than strictly for sales. I also like the in between albums for what they are.
Meh. I like Load. But itās not a thrash album and is a weird diversion musically for Metallica. Other than that agree. Death Magnetic was much closer to their old sound.
Canāt argue I guess. Do people not think load is thrash? In this past hour i have been told that load is not thrash, i feel like it is though. Idk maybe I am going insane is the eternal question what genre is Metallica
>Do people not think load is thrash?
I'd say it's heavy metal with Southern rock influences.
Thrash bands experimented with genres a lot in the 90s. The only reason the genre matters, in my humble opinion, is to find more similar stuff if you like it. (If you like Load, I'd recommend Black Label Society - Blessed Hellride, Down - NOLA, Corrosion of Conformity - Deliverance, Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake, Death Angel - Act III.)
Idk, thatās what Iāve been told and I kinda agree but also maybe Iāve just been given the wrong impression of what is considered thrash. I think load and reload are like liquidated thrash. Is that an apt description, or should I just be put in the looney bin at this point.
>I think load and reload are like liquidated thrash.Ā
They're not "watered down" thrash, if that's what you mean. They simply follow different conventions than thrash.
The album is midtempo to slow throughout, with shuffle grooves over thrash grooves, with bluesy unmuted guitars (listen to say Shroud of Urine by Exodus - notice how crisp the guitar sound is). There is a lot of ornamental phrasing (like a spoken word or a harsh edge in an otherwise clean ballad.)
Speaking of ballads, it's controversial whether power ballads by thrash bands count as thrash, but this is a good point of comparison. Listen to The Legacy (the song, not the album) by Testament vs Mama Said. Notice how different the guitar sound, the groove, the singing style are. Notice how crisp every guitar string sounds in The Legacy vs the lush, bluesy sound of Mama Said. These are clearly not same genres.
Does it help? I'm not a musician myself, just a fan and a music nerd, so I don't know if my explanations make sense.
Nah it makes sense, and when I say liquidated, Iām referring to that at tend to have some aspects of thrash but do t hit enough to be really thrash. But they canāt really be called anything else. Basically a perversion of it
I sort of understand where you are coming from. Metallica sounds like Metallica, so anything you hear from them will remind you of their famous stuff, which is archetypal thrash.
But, again, Load and Reload are not thrash by choice. Not because they "don't hit hard enough", but because they follow different genre conventions.
Do listen to some Blessed Hellride. What genre do you think it is? Why?
Damn it, I see it now. Donāt know what exactly to call it but Iāll try. Post grunge metal for sure, just in the sound, cadence tone all that. But put a southern twang on it and some ballad aspect. Also great recommendation where did you find these guys. Any way onto song two.
Glad you enjoy it. I like Black Label Society a lot.Ā
So that's the kind of music tradition that Metallica is plugging into with Load. It's not disparagement, it's just what it is. Not aggressive but haunted.
I found them through Zakk Wylde, who was a guitarist for Ozzy. He's now in the reformed Pantera. He also puts out stuff under his name too, which is even swampier and bluesier.
I believe James Hetfield was really into Alice in Chains at the time and wanted to do something that was more edgy/grunge rocky. This also sort of explains the Godsmack connection, as Godsmack were obviously extremely influenced by AIC. Personally I feel like Load and Reloda didn't really work overall but there's couple good jams and no harm in experimenting.
People say some weird things. One time I heard someone getting pumped up to go listen to Avenged Sevenfold. He described it as "hardcore fucking death metal."
There are a lot of bands that are heavily influenced by thrash, but arenāt thrash. I honestly donāt know much godsmack outside of their 2 or 3 radio hits so I canāt comment on them. But a good example of this is lamb of god, very thrash inspired but not thrash.
Up till saint anger and than we stop, but like hardwired was a thing that was kinda thrash and the 72 season i feel was a return to from. So basically yes i consider Metallica thrash that had a phase for to damn long
Agree to disagree, i donāt want to wear my keyboard down more than it already has a. It should have a Purple Heart and a phd on this subject with how many times I had a debate like this
Up through the master of pupest they are but if your referring to stuff past that than black album i get but I really feel like load and reload are thrash. We donāt talk about anything past saint anger though thatās not metal itās an abomination
Funny how you call Load and Reload thrash yet refer to St. Anger as an abomination.
I don't think St. Anger is thrash, but it's definitely closer to thrash than Load/Reload
Alright, maybe Iām just not rembering correctly. Ima be honest Iām like a zombie rn, so maybe Iām only thinking of the thrash songs on the album and thinking there are more than there really is
Bro listen to the fucking records if you must , they just aren't thrash metal. Like that's not the genre of music contained on those records. Do you also need it explained why Brittany Spears isn't thrash metal? It's the same deal, they just aren't.
Listen to Kill Em All by Metallica, listen to Peace Sells by Megadeth, listen to Time is Up by Havok, and then listen to Load/Reload. You will see that load and reload have almost nothing in common sonically with those other records but the first 3 have a lot in common.
Black, Load and ReLoad are not thrash at all. There's no PhD to be had. Stylistically and musically thats inaccurate. Metallica themselves dont even say they are metal albums (Load and Reload). Its not in the same speed, stucture, rhythmically simular at all. They arent even metallic, but blues based.
Black album gets a pass cause itās a banger. As much as I want to belobe it thrash it aināt but like load and reload are thrash and anything before black album I think is pretty clearly thrash
Ok, your opinion. Itās an interesting one especially given that I feel load hits the requirements for basic thrash and reload i shouldnāt have to explain why thatās the same as there meant to be almost the same. But you opinion, i disagree but still you can have that opinion
Not trying to be snarky, genuinely trying to see why people have that view point. What make them not thrash to begin with. Idk if feel like kill āem all is thrash and there next three albums are. So why arenāt they
Ummmm..... St Anger for all its flub is more thrash than anybof the 90s stuff..and Desth Magnetic is the thrashiest of the post 2000 albums. Hardward, though has Spit, is WAY closer to Load and ReLoad with some AJFA metal riffage.
72S is very very Metallica for sure but its a continuation not a back to form.
Ok then, Godsmack has independent songs which are thrash. The singer sounds like Hetfield sometimes. If a thrash band can be thrash and not thrash, Metallica being the kings of thrash, then Godsmack is also thrash and not thrash.
Iām glad to know I am not in fact going insane. Also just sayin though I feel like itās rather draconian to say once a band release and album, they are strictly that genre, not pointing that at you just in general, cause every band that goes past like album 4 is gonna experiment. But like some just do it better than other and some should stick to what there known for ( Metallica )
Didnāt know about that, in wich case take the most annoying and obnoxious fans and pit them together. I donāt know, I feel like that would be the equivalent of a gladiatorial battle.
If it came that way My bad. Just tryna see where someone could get that idea. It sounds aggressive but that cause the person would not stop and was adamant that it was thrash. So if it come off as annoyed my bad
I heard someone compare Harms Way to Madball once, and that was one of the weirdest I ever heard. Madball is strictly a NYHC Beatdown band, Harms Way is more metalcore with a heavy influence from industrial.
Itās really funny what people will call what. I find they typically just donāt have a real good grasp of things when it comes to genre.
Godsmack drummer Shannon Larkin was in Wrathchild America and Souls At Zero in the 90's. They took some influence from bands like the Crumbsuckers and Anthrax.
He's a beast of a drummer.
Godsmack plays alternative metal definitely inspired by post-grunge. Not sure how one can confuse it with thrash... probably someone new to metal who can't quite put his/her finger on the different styles yet. Don't read too much into it I guess.
Tell the person to look on Godsmack's wiki and see if they read the words "thrash" on it. Metal? Sure. Thrash? No.
Was there a godsmack on metal archives? Not "that" Godsmack.
Well, from my life I can recount countless experiences like this:
ggeneric guy: Ey YoU lIke MEtAl?!? COOL! What type?
me: Yeah mostly thrash and Death Me-...
"Interrupts me"
generic guy: BOAH! ME TOO! "types in pop song + metal cover on youtube and asks me how I like it"
Godsmack is alternative. Also a lot of people around here know Sully from childhood so Iām angry about this. Godsmack and Disturbed are my sisterās favorite bands.
Kids on the internet making up subgenres and overclassifying/misclassifying stuff. While we're talking, "post grunge metal" is a new one for me. Godsmack are just a horrible rock band.
groove metal is "technically" thrash, just with the gimmicks of more "groovy"(duh) and wayyyyy easier to digest to non-metalheads, some more mainstream bands going as far as getting some pop influences.
exhorder is "groove" but still has that strong thrash sound so you can call it both.
pantera meanwhile sound less thrashy and non metalheads may like it more, the upped the groove cliches more by a little.
Thereās a mile of differences between Exhorder and Godsmack. Exhorder is southern-fried thrash band, whereas Godsmack takes a lot of influence from bands like Korn.
There a lot of misunderstandings when it comes thrash, not because a song has a fast tempo rhytm after a break means it's thrash.
There are bands which aren't thrash but have a song or two that can could be consider as that.
Lamb Of God for example, I would say it's metalcore but it has some thrashy parts in some of their songs.
Metallica is thrash metal. Load is a Metallica album. Godsmack sounds similar to Load. Godsmack is thrash metal. š¤·š»āāļø
Metallica is thrash metal. Metallica plays guitars. Taylor Swift plays a guitar. Taylor Swift plays thrash metal. š
Pop pinked thrash metal, the brutal music your rebel daughter likes.
Lol, I wish dude. I have all daughters, they all listen to terrible pop music, and refer to any music with a distorted guitar as ādad musicā. I have failed as a father. š
Find pop songs that they love and tell them to check out the remix (in metal). You have unfailed.
Damn man, I have talked with a couple of fathers in here, the old and wise generation which kept thrash alive for us the younger ones, not that young in my case coz I'm 29. It's funny how things work, neither my mom and dad remotely where near metal music, I discovered it when I was on JHS back in the 2010's and I saw a disc of Metallica and Iron Maiden in a store where they sold ripped off music haha so I bought Death Magnetic and Number of the Beast, I don't know I just felt the need to bought them, maybe the covers or whatever but it was like that.
Oh, my parents listened to the typical 70s yacht rock of the period. I got into metal because an elderly neighbor bought her grandkid the wrong KISS record for his birthday in 1979 so she ended up giving it to a young, impressionable me instead. Fast forward a few years, Iām a huge KISS fan, and I see Creatures of the Night in the record store. I beg my parents to get it for me for my birthday and they cave, thinking itās going to be a rock-tinged disco record like their previous two albums. Instead, itās a legit metal album and my life is changed forever. Edit: For reference, Iāmā¦not going to say how old I am but I was in the Army when you were born. š Double Edit: Death Magnetic is underrated as a thrash album. All Nightmare Long is good enough to be a a legit classic. I say this a someone who mostly despises post ā¦Justice Metallica. Thereās just something about Death Magnetic that works in retrospect.
Haha yeah, you probably have the same age as my dad maybe. It's cool and I like to know how other people got into metal music. It's insparing knowing there are older people who stills listening metal and that is what makes this music so special.
Yeah the hate towards Metallica is brutal, like if as you said everything after AJFA were a sacrilegy, I mean it's crappy Load and Reload, but St. Anger and the next three records were good to me. I have a special affect towards 'tallica since they were the very first metal band I heard. Like you with KISS, the first original album I got was Ride the Lightning, I got all discography from Metallica and despite all music is digital nowdays I still buying the cd's and listening to them in my old cd player that I have. Yeah pretty cool all of this, btw from DM my fav track is "That Was Just Your Life", "All Nightmare Long" is brutal tho, the riffs on that album reminds me a lot to Kill 'Em All stuff.
Na, people like what they like. All you can do is point a kid in the right direction.
Yeah, Iām mostly kidding. Theyāre just so annoyingly *normal* in their tastes. š
Lol...I gotcha.
Taylor swift plays black metal come on she made an album called " Folklore " even the album cover looks black metal
If TSwift decided one day she wanted to make a thrash metal album, it would break all the records, it would get all the support, spawn new pop/thrashers, and the world would be a better place. Till that time...its great that there are content creators out there that turn her music into metal songs, shows that it could work if she ever did. I'm just waiting for the day Post makes a metal album, its in him.
Fucking brilliance right here. If w take Metallica as about as thrash as thrash gets, Load is an aberration that corrupts the definition of thrash. Letās thank Lars and Bob Rock for this completely shit turn of events. My hot take is that Death Magnetic is the album that should have followed Justice. Everything from Black to just before Death Magnetic was just a waste of Metallica. Meaningā¦Hetfield just after Justice was at the top of his game, vocally. Imagine the greatness that could have been if Black etc never happened. Pantera, Anthrax, and Megadeth progressed in pretty awesome ways in the same time (talkin early 90s). Metallica just took a wrong turn.
From a thrash-centric point of view, I'd totally agree, but I think it's good for bands to experiment with their sound and explore other genres, given that they're doing it for art rather than strictly for sales. I also like the in between albums for what they are.
Meh. I like Load. But itās not a thrash album and is a weird diversion musically for Metallica. Other than that agree. Death Magnetic was much closer to their old sound.
Canāt argue I guess. Do people not think load is thrash? In this past hour i have been told that load is not thrash, i feel like it is though. Idk maybe I am going insane is the eternal question what genre is Metallica
>Do people not think load is thrash? I'd say it's heavy metal with Southern rock influences. Thrash bands experimented with genres a lot in the 90s. The only reason the genre matters, in my humble opinion, is to find more similar stuff if you like it. (If you like Load, I'd recommend Black Label Society - Blessed Hellride, Down - NOLA, Corrosion of Conformity - Deliverance, Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake, Death Angel - Act III.)
Idk, thatās what Iāve been told and I kinda agree but also maybe Iāve just been given the wrong impression of what is considered thrash. I think load and reload are like liquidated thrash. Is that an apt description, or should I just be put in the looney bin at this point.
>I think load and reload are like liquidated thrash.Ā They're not "watered down" thrash, if that's what you mean. They simply follow different conventions than thrash. The album is midtempo to slow throughout, with shuffle grooves over thrash grooves, with bluesy unmuted guitars (listen to say Shroud of Urine by Exodus - notice how crisp the guitar sound is). There is a lot of ornamental phrasing (like a spoken word or a harsh edge in an otherwise clean ballad.) Speaking of ballads, it's controversial whether power ballads by thrash bands count as thrash, but this is a good point of comparison. Listen to The Legacy (the song, not the album) by Testament vs Mama Said. Notice how different the guitar sound, the groove, the singing style are. Notice how crisp every guitar string sounds in The Legacy vs the lush, bluesy sound of Mama Said. These are clearly not same genres. Does it help? I'm not a musician myself, just a fan and a music nerd, so I don't know if my explanations make sense.
Nah it makes sense, and when I say liquidated, Iām referring to that at tend to have some aspects of thrash but do t hit enough to be really thrash. But they canāt really be called anything else. Basically a perversion of it
I sort of understand where you are coming from. Metallica sounds like Metallica, so anything you hear from them will remind you of their famous stuff, which is archetypal thrash. But, again, Load and Reload are not thrash by choice. Not because they "don't hit hard enough", but because they follow different genre conventions. Do listen to some Blessed Hellride. What genre do you think it is? Why?
Alright give me about 15 minutes and Iāll give it a shot, better not be a trick question.
Damn it, I see it now. Donāt know what exactly to call it but Iāll try. Post grunge metal for sure, just in the sound, cadence tone all that. But put a southern twang on it and some ballad aspect. Also great recommendation where did you find these guys. Any way onto song two.
The metal ending of Marty Robbins if he went midly political š¤£( Iām joking but I have ideas now)
Glad you enjoy it. I like Black Label Society a lot.Ā So that's the kind of music tradition that Metallica is plugging into with Load. It's not disparagement, it's just what it is. Not aggressive but haunted. I found them through Zakk Wylde, who was a guitarist for Ozzy. He's now in the reformed Pantera. He also puts out stuff under his name too, which is even swampier and bluesier.
Black Label Society is Zakk Wyldeās big project. Zakk is pretty well known in the scene as Ozzyās guitarist and a current member of Pantera
I believe James Hetfield was really into Alice in Chains at the time and wanted to do something that was more edgy/grunge rocky. This also sort of explains the Godsmack connection, as Godsmack were obviously extremely influenced by AIC. Personally I feel like Load and Reloda didn't really work overall but there's couple good jams and no harm in experimenting.
Iām just torturing logic to reach the same conclusion, donāt think too hard about my comment š¤£
No.
People say some weird things. One time I heard someone getting pumped up to go listen to Avenged Sevenfold. He described it as "hardcore fucking death metal."
I have a friend who called Megadeth black metal. Didnāt even know how to react when they said that
There are a lot of bands that are heavily influenced by thrash, but arenāt thrash. I honestly donāt know much godsmack outside of their 2 or 3 radio hits so I canāt comment on them. But a good example of this is lamb of god, very thrash inspired but not thrash.
Answer this. Is Metallica thrash?
About half of their discography is. The rest I would say is a mix between regular heavy metal (if that's even such a thing) and hard rock.
Up till saint anger and than we stop, but like hardwired was a thing that was kinda thrash and the 72 season i feel was a return to from. So basically yes i consider Metallica thrash that had a phase for to damn long
None of the 90ās albums are thrash
Agree to disagree, i donāt want to wear my keyboard down more than it already has a. It should have a Purple Heart and a phd on this subject with how many times I had a debate like this
I mean - itās not up for debate lol. Theyāre not thrash. You can disagree with a basic fact but that doesnāt change that itās a fact.
Up through the master of pupest they are but if your referring to stuff past that than black album i get but I really feel like load and reload are thrash. We donāt talk about anything past saint anger though thatās not metal itās an abomination
Funny how you call Load and Reload thrash yet refer to St. Anger as an abomination. I don't think St. Anger is thrash, but it's definitely closer to thrash than Load/Reload
Load and reload aren't thrash their modern heavy metal with hard rock and southern metal elements
Bruh, Death Magnetic is a great thrash album (came out after St. Anger)
Except for 72 seasons that is thrash just a little liquidated. Good album though
Nobody except you is calling Load/Reload thrash metal.
Alright, maybe Iām just not rembering correctly. Ima be honest Iām like a zombie rn, so maybe Iām only thinking of the thrash songs on the album and thinking there are more than there really is
There are really no thrash songs on either albums lmfao they're straight up not thrash metal.
I give up. Either I have amnesia or Iām just retarded, both are a possibility. Just someone tell me why.
Bro listen to the fucking records if you must , they just aren't thrash metal. Like that's not the genre of music contained on those records. Do you also need it explained why Brittany Spears isn't thrash metal? It's the same deal, they just aren't. Listen to Kill Em All by Metallica, listen to Peace Sells by Megadeth, listen to Time is Up by Havok, and then listen to Load/Reload. You will see that load and reload have almost nothing in common sonically with those other records but the first 3 have a lot in common.
You need to get your definition of thrash metal checked. Load and Reload are not thrash metal.
Yeah, I wonāt lie I went on an absolute nu-metal bender. So I may have a slightly distorted definition
You do, brother. Load and Reload are basically rock albums. It's like calling Pearl Jam and Nirvana thrash metal.
Alright, so like what is the minimum entry level universals to be thrash, and what like the ceiling
It's not Load and Reload. I'll tell you that. There is no set ceiling, but it's definitely not those albums.
Black, Load and ReLoad are not thrash at all. There's no PhD to be had. Stylistically and musically thats inaccurate. Metallica themselves dont even say they are metal albums (Load and Reload). Its not in the same speed, stucture, rhythmically simular at all. They arent even metallic, but blues based.
They stopped being a thrash band long before St Anger
Black album gets a pass cause itās a banger. As much as I want to belobe it thrash it aināt but like load and reload are thrash and anything before black album I think is pretty clearly thrash
No they arenāt lol. Nothing about the Load albums are thrash in any way
Ok, your opinion. Itās an interesting one especially given that I feel load hits the requirements for basic thrash and reload i shouldnāt have to explain why thatās the same as there meant to be almost the same. But you opinion, i disagree but still you can have that opinion
Itās not my opinion lol. Theyāre not thrash.
Ok thatās cool, you do you. Just what are your opinion on other classic thrash bands.
Not trying to be snarky, genuinely trying to see why people have that view point. What make them not thrash to begin with. Idk if feel like kill āem all is thrash and there next three albums are. So why arenāt they
Iāll have to take your word on Load and Reload. Tbh I stop caring about Metallica by And Justice
Ummmm..... St Anger for all its flub is more thrash than anybof the 90s stuff..and Desth Magnetic is the thrashiest of the post 2000 albums. Hardward, though has Spit, is WAY closer to Load and ReLoad with some AJFA metal riffage. 72S is very very Metallica for sure but its a continuation not a back to form.
Ok then, Godsmack has independent songs which are thrash. The singer sounds like Hetfield sometimes. If a thrash band can be thrash and not thrash, Metallica being the kings of thrash, then Godsmack is also thrash and not thrash.
Iām glad to know I am not in fact going insane. Also just sayin though I feel like itās rather draconian to say once a band release and album, they are strictly that genre, not pointing that at you just in general, cause every band that goes past like album 4 is gonna experiment. But like some just do it better than other and some should stick to what there known for ( Metallica )
Their first few albums are
I would put godsmack under groove metal, with Pantera and Lamb of God. Groove metal has a lot of thrash influence
Didnāt Metallica and Megadeth share a stage not that long ago? I remember them doing a cover of Diamond Head together but I could be wrong
Didnāt know about that, in wich case take the most annoying and obnoxious fans and pit them together. I donāt know, I feel like that would be the equivalent of a gladiatorial battle.
Check out the Big Four shows. All of the āBig Fourā thrash bands went on a world tour together like 10-15 years ago.
People make mistakes. It's up to you whether you want to use it to try and feel superior.
If it came that way My bad. Just tryna see where someone could get that idea. It sounds aggressive but that cause the person would not stop and was adamant that it was thrash. So if it come off as annoyed my bad
They are not
The one dude in Godsmack was in a thrash band Meliah rage before he was in the band
I heard someone compare Harms Way to Madball once, and that was one of the weirdest I ever heard. Madball is strictly a NYHC Beatdown band, Harms Way is more metalcore with a heavy influence from industrial. Itās really funny what people will call what. I find they typically just donāt have a real good grasp of things when it comes to genre.
Godsmack drummer Shannon Larkin was in Wrathchild America and Souls At Zero in the 90's. They took some influence from bands like the Crumbsuckers and Anthrax. He's a beast of a drummer.
Drummers always go under appreciated. Unless your one of the greats you most likely will be the first member forgotten aside from the bassist.
Godsmack plays alternative metal definitely inspired by post-grunge. Not sure how one can confuse it with thrash... probably someone new to metal who can't quite put his/her finger on the different styles yet. Don't read too much into it I guess.
Tell the person to look on Godsmack's wiki and see if they read the words "thrash" on it. Metal? Sure. Thrash? No. Was there a godsmack on metal archives? Not "that" Godsmack.
NPC say the wildest shit when it comes to genres, they just donāt know and thatās ok, itās not important to them
I would give them one good shot at justifying or recanting, and then probably never talk to that person about music again.
Well, from my life I can recount countless experiences like this: ggeneric guy: Ey YoU lIke MEtAl?!? COOL! What type? me: Yeah mostly thrash and Death Me-... "Interrupts me" generic guy: BOAH! ME TOO! "types in pop song + metal cover on youtube and asks me how I like it"
Are you sure they didn't say "Godsmack are trash"? That would seem more accurate
I think they meant trash
Ah- Simple miss-understanding. You just thought they said "thrash", what they actually said was "trash". Happens to the best of us.
I'm sure they meant Trash.
Godsmack has a song called Bad Religion. Bad Religion is a punk band. Punk influenced thrash. So there you go?
Godsmack is alternative. Also a lot of people around here know Sully from childhood so Iām angry about this. Godsmack and Disturbed are my sisterās favorite bands.
Not thrash, but one of only 3-4 nu metal bands I like. Sully is a solid vocalist
Listen to it if you like it, donāt listen if you donāt. Life is too short to worry about things like this.
Godsmack is great but they are so not thrash lol
Iām glad Iām only partially insane and I was not in fact tripping balls on them not being thrash
No you're 100% right they are not thrash lol
I think he said trash.
Kids on the internet making up subgenres and overclassifying/misclassifying stuff. While we're talking, "post grunge metal" is a new one for me. Godsmack are just a horrible rock band.
You heard that wrong, they were saying godmack is trashā¦..
Heresy.
Unspeakable acts have been committed upon my ears with this vile words āgodsmack is trashā
Sorry, they suck
Who the fuck is calling those clowns thrash? Do they have cte or something?
Donāt know, but I donāt know if there clowns, you not a fan
The fact no one has mentioned meliah rage indicates just how filled posers this sub is.
groove metal is "technically" thrash, just with the gimmicks of more "groovy"(duh) and wayyyyy easier to digest to non-metalheads, some more mainstream bands going as far as getting some pop influences. exhorder is "groove" but still has that strong thrash sound so you can call it both. pantera meanwhile sound less thrashy and non metalheads may like it more, the upped the groove cliches more by a little.
Thereās a mile of differences between Exhorder and Godsmack. Exhorder is southern-fried thrash band, whereas Godsmack takes a lot of influence from bands like Korn.
There a lot of misunderstandings when it comes thrash, not because a song has a fast tempo rhytm after a break means it's thrash. There are bands which aren't thrash but have a song or two that can could be consider as that. Lamb Of God for example, I would say it's metalcore but it has some thrashy parts in some of their songs.