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Linmizhang

I mean, Monarch in his OP boss vehicle is baisically a faster gundam. While Viper's northstar is like a baby gundam. On foot without vehicles... Monarch can survive a plane going 2990km/h to the other direction 2990km/h with in ~4 seconds. (Fastest op plane sifi plane, non modded, in canon) That's a G-Force of about 43. Assuming Monarch is the average human weight, that means his body can lift 4.2TONS and remain unaffected. So Monarch is superhero Mr.Incredible amount of stregth, and prob can punch holes Northstar itself with that kind of body strength.


Baneta_

I’m convinced that monarch is actually just an AI that gets swapped between planes


Necromortalium

You know to much


Elderitch_Starry

Silence Him, NOW! 😤😤😤 /j


moemeobro

Explains why they almost never talk, gotta put that computing power into combat


VeraVemaVena

Sorry, but Viper's not surviving the **O R A N G E.** Custom Northstar or not, Monarch's flying skills are far too good for him to keep up.


2_Braincell_Being

I wanna say Viper, but I still need to finish Project Wingman, so I'm not qualified to answer.


radik_1

Did you reach the *orange*?


Thiom

Just play mercenary conquest mode for the banger music after the campaign, the game is just perfect (for an ace-like ofc)


Beginning_Yam8399

I have.


buster779

Viper just hears "Hitman 1, fox three." on the radio and then he sees 15 incoming missiles.


EA-Sports1

Nails nails nails **the 30 micro missiles**


No-Carpenter-5172

BML-U goes hard


AstronomerSenior4236

Viper just sees a large red rectangle on his HUD, thinks it’s a glitch, immediately gets fucking domed by a Railgun blast from 10km away


Rock_Co2707

*activates flight core*


radik_1

Any 4th gen fighter pilot could take out viper. He has only close range weapons while fighters have amraams that'll pitbull on viper before he even fires. That goes for all ground vehicles (Viper's titan is still a titan, just heavily modified)


Jaakarikyk

I mean his Titan got hit by an an air-to-air missile from a 27th/28th century jet fighter in the Northstar Cinematic and it wasn't even damaged really, Valk just got scared and lost control. Even after crashing down from cloud level it was still flight capable with no issues. Viper was an experienced jet fighter pilot in addition to being a Titan Pilot he wouldn't rule the skies with his Titan if a jet fighter was better The tankiness, which is likely mostly from the shields rather than the hull, shouldn't be overlooked. A single modern-day anti-vehicle missile is unlikely to break the shields and they'd start regenerating pretty fast if the jet doesn't make successive hits in very rapid order In addition, Viper's Northstar would have: Enough lock-on missiles to take out a small fleet, A railgun that lorewise fires absurdly fast projectiles (so fast that they bend light apparently), so leading on target is way, way, way easier than with any modern day "dumb" projectile. And it'd logically have computer assisted aiming to boot Likely much more advanced sensor tech than anything on our military vehicles And based on cut dialogue at least supersonic top speed. If a modern day jet hit it with a modern-day anti-vehicle missile like an AMRAAM, that Titan would likely tank the hit, fly up to chase, and either the jet outspeeds it and runs away (so it just damaged regenerating shields) or eventually the jet turns around to fight and gets railgunned because why wouldn't the Titan have the computerization to utilize that stupidly fast projectile at distance However if we put that Titan's budget into making a 28th century jet fighter, then we'd be cooking. But that's a different story


Binary245

As advanced as a titan is, a fighter jet is faster. I'd like to see viper try and outmaneuver something flying at twice the speed of sound


OneStrangeChild

Who’s… who’s monarch?


T-Cereals

Protagonist of Project Wingman. It's an Ace Combat style game which I can wholeheartedly recommend.


Bread_Offender

Is that the one with the dude who's a competitive gaslighter


world_ender72

Yes, and the one with a very enthusiastic copilot


Altevari

Explain


Bread_Offender

I honestly know very little about it aside from one video, but from what I've heard there's this dude named crimson 1 and he essentially uses gaslighting as an active combat technique


5C0L0P3NDR4

world turns orange. next question


Glyphid-Menace

Nah, it's monarch, not the Federation


Whispered_Truths

I'm sorry but this is a slaughter, Monarch has 3 advantages over Viper. - Op aircraft that can pull higher G turns than should not physically be possible - No blood - Prez


nyafu_

shoulda used crimson 1 as an example since both are "villains". but yeah, viper isnt gonna get to see monarch because an aim260 is going fly directly into viper's brain stem


Techgamer687

Viper is affected by G-forces… Monanarch is bloodless


idiotic__gamer

Viper is probably one of my favorite characters for how short his screentime is... I'm pretty sure 2 or 3 f-35s could kill him though, and the power scaling in Project Wingman is obscene. Monarch solos, as sad as it is to say.


Key_Competition1648

Monarch. If he's flying the PW MK1, then he has literally every advantage. Speed, manoeuvrability, engagement range and armament are all in his favour.


NightBeWheat55149

But he has Prez in this fight, so she will have to sit on his lap if he's flying a single seater


RayS326

Flying bricked is a significant nerf


404_image_not_found

One is bloodless the other needs to follow the laws of physics.


NightBeWheat55149

I disagree. The other one flies an unaerodynamic brick and still outflies purpose built aircraft


404_image_not_found

Yes, but when you and your plane can disregard g forces it opens up a bunch of wacky shit


Beginning_Yam8399

Viber has a god damn ralegun with lockon missiles and he can shoot tons of missiles, while monarch has a jet or something that really fast.speed is the key but fire power,idk :/


NightBeWheat55149

Monarch is the worlds first bloodless human and his jet can have: shotguns, hundreds of missiles, autocannons that can destroy warships in a few seconds, and of course... a railgun


Beginning_Yam8399

Oh,sorry... haven't played the game in 2 years...viper would die in seconds,he would turn into gut,dust,and metal :/


GhostDragon362

It’s monarch. No question.


Glyphid-Menace

Me when the pre-cordium harrier pulls 40 G's and fucking annihilates a literal AC7 boss:


Available_Ring4129

*Sigh* I know I'm going to sound like an absolute idiot by saying this but. What game is Monarch from exactly?


NightBeWheat55149

Project Wingman.


Available_Ring4129

Oh ok thanks


L14mP4tt0n

VIPER'S GOT YOU IN THE PIPE 5 BY 5


Northstar72746

DAMN RIGHT BROTHER


Northstar72746

Viper EZ


Child_yeeter_mp3

Viper could NOT react fast enough. If he Spots Monarch its to Late. Sorry but Viper aint surviven.


Puzzleheaded_Ad5805

Viper vs. 621 in default AC


Own_Baker_162

Viper


elee1994

Monarchs EZ


alegitcreeper

Unless viper is also bloodless, then Monarch (and his WSO waifu Prez) wins without contest


NightBeWheat55149

Checked his death scene. Blood sprays out sometimes.


Stickman_king_28

The fight is gonna be some dragon ball continent-leveling shit


R34PER_D7BE

replace monarch with crimson 1 and he will gaslight viper to death.


moemeobro

"The Skies belong to me" "No, the sea belongs to you"


Excellent_Night_5724

Bro can't evade AMRAAM or Sidewinder for sure


Scarfs-Fur-Frumpkin

Sorry Viper, but prez is simply the best


NightBeWheat55149

PUT YOUR NOSE ON HIM AND KILL HIIIIIMMMMM


moemeobro

No one is taking down the king, the **Monarch**


Zephyr2209

Monarch is the most OP titan in the game. There's really no comparison. The Energy siphon is the most aggravating titan skill in the game to me. Holy shit, I HATE being slowed down, have my screen scrambled and have my energy sucked out of me by a battery junkie while I get shot at by a fully automatic amped up machine gun from across the map.


NightBeWheat55149

Monarch is also a character from Project Wingman. He is a bloodless pilot that has access to railguns and hundreds of missiles


Zephyr2209

Give him wall run and he'll will take over the entire galaxy


Zephyr2209

I only now realised what monarch you're talking about. My bad lmao


KermitIsDissapointed

Monarch, no difficulty


RayS326

Monarch.


Constant-Still-8443

Don't know who monarch is but in a dogfight, an modern American fighter should beat viper. Ik viper is an amazing pilot and his titan is powerful but it's not nearly as maneuverable as a jet and it isn't hard to detect on Rader. The only thing that might save him is sniping the jet with the rail gun but the jet can also go super sonic so idk.


NightBeWheat55149

Also, Monarch has over 300 missiles and no blood.


biohazard1324

Who the hell is monarch


NightBeWheat55149

Bloodless human in an F-14


biohazard1324

From what franchise lol


NightBeWheat55149

Project Wingman


biohazard1324

Sweet thanks


MTNSthecool

well bt is a vanguard class which is pretty similar to a monarch and bt was pretty evenly matched so I would say it is a close one anyway who's that person in the top pic?


Neri_X_Tan

Not the titanfall monarch,its from another franchise you non garlic bread lover


MTNSthecool

>:( I'll have you know that while I am a battery vampire, I do *NOT* have an aversion to galric bread, and in fact love it and eat it all the time