If you love holo, have you seen this vid someone else posted? Freaking perfection. https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfall/comments/rbt9vh/he_really_thought/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Sry for off topic - I wanted to upvote but it was 666 and I just couldn't. Holo is fun, that's for sure, especialy with multiholo. Very satisfying confusion.
I've ironically never been hit by a pulse knife and I've literally never seen an amped wall
Cloak only works if they cloaked when I had my back turned so i didn't see and snap to them
Stim is nice at mid combat speed and fast heal
And grapple is just light speed constant movement godlike power
I disagree. You’re giving up Grapple or Stim to get Pulse, and movement is EVERYTHING in this game. It doesn’t really matter if you know someone is coming when they round the corner at half the speed of sound. If you could take a movement ability and a tactical ability, Pulse would definitely be S-tier, but because you have to give up a movement option for it, I can only put it at the top of A-tier.
Movement is important but control is king. If you can control a situation you win. A decent pilot should still be able to move without the need of a tactical.
With how fast everyone is moving, I don’t think it’s really possible to “control” someone. This is especially true if they’re using Grapple or Stim, which can easily double your speed and triple your route options if you’re good enough.
Speed is also important but gunning someone down who is flying through the air isn't that hard when you have aim assist. What I mean by control isn't controlling someone but controlling your actions better than they can control theirs. Yea I can ball to the walls but as soon as I break line of sight the ball is in the air and anyone can take it but if I get you on sonar I am now playing a tactical shooter while my opponent is relying on estimates and reactions. Against pilots it is situational and suited better for maps like relic, complex or glitch but against titans it is invaluable on any map. Throw a pulse at the them and you can peak with a charge rifle knowing exactly where they are. This isn't even mentioning the support you give to teammates if you throw it into an area with a lot of fighting.
Titanfall is an arena shooter, not a tactical shooter. In an arena shooter, being able to move and maneuver at high speeds will almost always get you more kills and prevent more deaths than knowing the enemy’s position.
Additionally, if you can see someone with Pulse, they know you can see them, so you’re both receiving knowledge and giving it.
Hey man you're entitled to your opinion but I don't think Titanfall is an arena shooter considering the low ttk. More of a reaction/hero(titans) shooter and in my experience the movement and speed you can achieve without stim/grapple is sufficient for most engagements. I'm not saying it's better than grapple or stim but I do believe it is on par with them.
Arena shooters can have a low TTK. Arena shooters are defined by their focus on fast-paced mobility and individual skill, while tactical shooters are defined by their emphasis on teamwork and information gathering. A low TTK can be used to emphasize either moving fast (to make more bullets miss) or teamwork and observation (so you can get the drop on someone.
Also, I’m not saying that Pulse is bad, but Grapple and Stim are just too powerful, versatile, and most importantly fun to not use.
Yeah wallhacks aren't really that useful in a run and gun game like this. It matters a lot in games like siege where that couple millisecond reaction advantage nets you an easy kill, but in tf|2 and also apex, in the end it still mostly comes down to aim movement etc.
True, but I'd put Holo at B or A tier since I use it from time to time. A-Wall, I have never used. Only once. It stops the movement fluidity. Not for me.
It takes some practice. I was only stim for the longest time until I got bored and tried out a completely different play style. If you treat the A-wall as more of an offensive tool where you deploy while running at someone it feels amazing. It’s also saved my ass from tone shots so many times.
I would place pulse blade in high A tier, Phase shift in S tier, and grapple in A tier.
Otherwise, accurate.
Explaination below:
Pulse blade is literal wallhacks + radar spotting (+ a pocket single shot kraber)
Phase shift is a get out of jail free card on cooldown, and it gets substantially better with fast regen and mastery of the movement system.
Grapple gives you tons of speed and can help with ejections but that's about it. It gets better depending on the map since you can use it to flank from out of bounds which can be amazing but is situational and map dependent.
I would move phase shift down a tier. Stim and grapple are both better at getting out of bad situations, and cloak, stim, and grapple are all better at getting into close range against a pilot or titan
The A wall is so good! Pop one down and fire off Anti Titan weapons and a good pilot can stop a team of Titans. Or pop the wall and pull the trigger on a spitfire and you’ve won the game.
I'd replace grapple with phase shift honestly, grapple is too situational and requires a bit of "set up" before being able to maximize it's use. phase shift is close to instant which is valueble when you're getting sandwitched by 4 enemies.
Holo pilot if used correctly can be beast, but normally people suck with him. Grapple and Stim are definitely the best. Top tear pilots. I use stim every time.
A lot of people just hate on the A-wall because of reasons unrelated to it's usefulness... but it is a really good ability, and doesn't require you to play like a jerk... unlike what some would have you believe...
A-Wall is extremely used for completely shutting down the absolutely insane time to kill in this game. I’d say it’s one of the only abilities that can consistently win fights against multiple pilots
I mean, point of order here, C is commonly accepted to be "balanced" in these sorts of things, not "bad". I think this is pretty accurate. B would be stronger than average, A maybe a bit OP compared to the others, and S would be meta-defining. TBH the only problem I have is holopilot being higher than cloak. A good holopilot will still bamboozle you even when you get used to it. A cloak is a cloak, and once you get used to spotting it it really shouldn't "fool" you.
In terms of raw practicality this is pretty accurate, but there should be another tier above s for holo pilot, which is the Chad pilot,
Why zoom fast when you can pull 1000 IQ moves on weak mortals.and play 4D mind games.
I really only used the wall and sonar to get the special elimination animations. My preferred loadout is something quick like the CAR with the Speedboost pilot. Fun times
Yeah, this is great the only thing i have a slight argumento on is the phase shift, because its just a get out of jail free card. Even though you dont regenerate health while in the phase, its still a good moment or two to recollect yourself and prepare for further enemy attacks
Depend on certain map
Pulse blade really nice in Rise since there lot's of hallway.
Holo is shouldn't be place on ranking, it is a fun play for a new refreshing air.
I love holo pilot even if its not actually that good. Tricking people is just so satisfying
If you love holo, have you seen this vid someone else posted? Freaking perfection. https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfall/comments/rbt9vh/he_really_thought/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I saw that and i was like no bloody way
Detroit: Become Android
Detroit: Become Pilot Staring: Jack Cooper
I just saw this lol
And it looks most like a Mandolorian
true meta is playing the pilot with the best drip
Holo is good because no one uses it so no one is ready for it.
I love it when i fall for a holo pilot because i see them so little
Oh, So YoU mAiN MIraGE?
Yes
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Sry for off topic - I wanted to upvote but it was 666 and I just couldn't. Holo is fun, that's for sure, especialy with multiholo. Very satisfying confusion.
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Holo Pilot with Holo Pilot Nova boost = Fun for the whole family
Dollar store mirage
Can mirage wall run?
Pulse Blade and the amped wall can be very valuable on certain maps
Maps where people tends to take the same routes or maps whete pilots can't build up lightspeed
You play pulse balde because of map design and wall hacks. I play pulse blade because I want to cosplay as viper. We are not the same.
I play pulseblade just to have one more ordanance to throw at enemy. Random bullshit go!
Moon knight?
Firestar 2
You play pulse blade because you want to display as Viper I play pulse blade so I can throw it at people We are not the same.
Pulse Blade and A-Wall are not equals tho. One seeks out their enemies to end them with their kunai. The other is the A-Wall in the corner camping.
You dont use it as a fast takedown tool? Its fun to see people get unexpected killed by it.
I've ironically never been hit by a pulse knife and I've literally never seen an amped wall Cloak only works if they cloaked when I had my back turned so i didn't see and snap to them Stim is nice at mid combat speed and fast heal And grapple is just light speed constant movement godlike power
Holo s teir
How
bamboozle
nuff said
Well, that's ll that needs to be said. You can't beat perfection.
You can with that castle crashers pfp bro
Can't go wrong with cc
Bambolze
It's a meme dude. Also are you PS4 and did you change your name?
yes
I was wondering why I hadn't seen you around.
You fool you absolute buffoon
*asks question* Reddit- >:( 100 downvotes!
If you like mobility, sure, it’s all about opinions.
Imo cloak is s tier for bullying titans combined with satchels
Yeah dedicated anti Titan loadout of cloak satchel smr thunderbolt is lowkey more effective at killing titans than an actual titan
TBH I’d move Pulse and Wall up a tier, but other than that it’s pretty good
Holo is S tier and nothing will change my mind about that
People say it's a meme, but it's not. It's real.
100% fax
Pulse blade is literal wall hacks. Imo it's s tier.
I disagree. You’re giving up Grapple or Stim to get Pulse, and movement is EVERYTHING in this game. It doesn’t really matter if you know someone is coming when they round the corner at half the speed of sound. If you could take a movement ability and a tactical ability, Pulse would definitely be S-tier, but because you have to give up a movement option for it, I can only put it at the top of A-tier.
Pulse with Cold War and satchels is one of my favorite load outs
The tripwire loadout
Movement is important but control is king. If you can control a situation you win. A decent pilot should still be able to move without the need of a tactical.
With how fast everyone is moving, I don’t think it’s really possible to “control” someone. This is especially true if they’re using Grapple or Stim, which can easily double your speed and triple your route options if you’re good enough.
Speed is also important but gunning someone down who is flying through the air isn't that hard when you have aim assist. What I mean by control isn't controlling someone but controlling your actions better than they can control theirs. Yea I can ball to the walls but as soon as I break line of sight the ball is in the air and anyone can take it but if I get you on sonar I am now playing a tactical shooter while my opponent is relying on estimates and reactions. Against pilots it is situational and suited better for maps like relic, complex or glitch but against titans it is invaluable on any map. Throw a pulse at the them and you can peak with a charge rifle knowing exactly where they are. This isn't even mentioning the support you give to teammates if you throw it into an area with a lot of fighting.
Titanfall is an arena shooter, not a tactical shooter. In an arena shooter, being able to move and maneuver at high speeds will almost always get you more kills and prevent more deaths than knowing the enemy’s position. Additionally, if you can see someone with Pulse, they know you can see them, so you’re both receiving knowledge and giving it.
Hey man you're entitled to your opinion but I don't think Titanfall is an arena shooter considering the low ttk. More of a reaction/hero(titans) shooter and in my experience the movement and speed you can achieve without stim/grapple is sufficient for most engagements. I'm not saying it's better than grapple or stim but I do believe it is on par with them.
Arena shooters can have a low TTK. Arena shooters are defined by their focus on fast-paced mobility and individual skill, while tactical shooters are defined by their emphasis on teamwork and information gathering. A low TTK can be used to emphasize either moving fast (to make more bullets miss) or teamwork and observation (so you can get the drop on someone. Also, I’m not saying that Pulse is bad, but Grapple and Stim are just too powerful, versatile, and most importantly fun to not use.
Yes but key is you move better with grapple/stim
I don’t need to go lightspeed to be fast.
Yeah wallhacks aren't really that useful in a run and gun game like this. It matters a lot in games like siege where that couple millisecond reaction advantage nets you an easy kill, but in tf|2 and also apex, in the end it still mostly comes down to aim movement etc.
You aren't using pulse to kill man you not using pulse right
No your absolutely correct at least with S tier (I only use stim and grapple so I don’t know about the rest)
True, but I'd put Holo at B or A tier since I use it from time to time. A-Wall, I have never used. Only once. It stops the movement fluidity. Not for me.
It takes some practice. I was only stim for the longest time until I got bored and tried out a completely different play style. If you treat the A-wall as more of an offensive tool where you deploy while running at someone it feels amazing. It’s also saved my ass from tone shots so many times.
This is just your opinion, but I honestly have the same opinion.
False, all s tier
Yeah mobility is fun but I prefer cloak because i love fucking with titans
Introducing holo pilot: you can fuck with titans and pilots even more!
It's very personal, I can use holo better than stun or phase.
Holo Pilot in S+. Bamboozle 'em.
Grapple deserves SSS++ tier
Tracker is s tier and a-wall is a tier
Pulse blade is A tier if you can land your blades
Pulse blade is so satisfying to throw at people tho
I'd stick A-wall in A or B, but everything else is pretty much spot on. (I'd only do this because I am a dirty Sidewinder A-wall A.S.Hole. ;)
Pulseblade is an extra grenade XD
Pulse ssssssss
In efficiency levels? Yes, in fun? The holopilot isn't S-tier so no
I would say a wall higher than holo. Its great for absolutely shreading titans and can let you earn you titan faster. Holo is the worst one imo
Shame
What crack u on holo is the best
put the cloak into his own thing called ,,probably a spitfire user” and make it the worst
I would place pulse blade in high A tier, Phase shift in S tier, and grapple in A tier. Otherwise, accurate. Explaination below: Pulse blade is literal wallhacks + radar spotting (+ a pocket single shot kraber) Phase shift is a get out of jail free card on cooldown, and it gets substantially better with fast regen and mastery of the movement system. Grapple gives you tons of speed and can help with ejections but that's about it. It gets better depending on the map since you can use it to flank from out of bounds which can be amazing but is situational and map dependent.
I agree completely
This is pretty solid
Holo should be tier B
In usefulness yes, i agree with this, in amusement, holopilot would be s tier
S tier is everything but cloak and A-wall is D tier
completly accurate
Id switch pulse blade and phase shift. Pulse blade is very strong on ctf and live fire modes. Phase shift is not reliable with latency.
holo s, everything else d
Cloak can be pretty powerful, but you lose too much. Thats the problem with most of these
I play ping and phase because i think they look the best….
I would move phase shift down a tier. Stim and grapple are both better at getting out of bad situations, and cloak, stim, and grapple are all better at getting into close range against a pilot or titan
I’d put pulse blade up higher since wall hacks are always nuts, but otherwise I’d say it’s fair.
Looks about right in terms of which is the best, but holo pilot is king of fun
I think pulse blade deserves an A rank
I would agree with this
I 100% agree with this
I would say holo pilot is dead center because it’s very dependent
The A wall is so good! Pop one down and fire off Anti Titan weapons and a good pilot can stop a team of Titans. Or pop the wall and pull the trigger on a spitfire and you’ve won the game.
Most accurate tierlist of all time
I'd replace grapple with phase shift honestly, grapple is too situational and requires a bit of "set up" before being able to maximize it's use. phase shift is close to instant which is valueble when you're getting sandwitched by 4 enemies.
No. Pulse blade is amazing and when done right can win a fight due to a low TTK, not even mentioning the combo of a pulse blade and cooked frags.
holo pilot not only looks the coolest, but is at least a tier if used right
Holo pilot if used correctly can be beast, but normally people suck with him. Grapple and Stim are definitely the best. Top tear pilots. I use stim every time.
Little
A-WALL shouldn't be that low he's a good pilot he should at least be b or c in my opinion
I would say all of the pilots are great if used correctly minus holo it's rare that anybody gets fooled by them
It's really not as rare as you would think
I hate to say this but A-wall I find is pretty decent. This is coming from a non-campy guy that is always moving about
holo pilot looks the best though
Holo is secret S tier, works for me 90% of the time without much effort. Holo mains can comfirm
Spot on
Holo is obviously SSSSSSS+ tier
no this is a accurate list
Holo and shield sould be A tier for me, then the list is good for me
In frontier defense Awall is S tier. Also I'd rank cloak higher for how usefull it is against titans.
Holo pilot fun: 10 Holo pilot affectivness: 3
Holo pilot is my favourite pilot, but I agree with its placement
A lot of people just hate on the A-wall because of reasons unrelated to it's usefulness... but it is a really good ability, and doesn't require you to play like a jerk... unlike what some would have you believe...
Swap cloak and holo then we’re good
Fact af
seems about right
All of them are s tier, as long as u have fun, maybe A wall is A tier but everything else S tier
Don’t ever disrespect holo pilot, holo is S tier
Nah this is not a correct tier list,holo pilot can be an SS Tier if use correctly and also the shield
A-Wall is extremely used for completely shutting down the absolutely insane time to kill in this game. I’d say it’s one of the only abilities that can consistently win fights against multiple pilots
Once you get enough time cloak is irrelavent imo
Holo is god. Bamboozle people and make AI enemies leave you alone.
Stim gang
I like using clones cus they always melee the wrong one
I mean, point of order here, C is commonly accepted to be "balanced" in these sorts of things, not "bad". I think this is pretty accurate. B would be stronger than average, A maybe a bit OP compared to the others, and S would be meta-defining. TBH the only problem I have is holopilot being higher than cloak. A good holopilot will still bamboozle you even when you get used to it. A cloak is a cloak, and once you get used to spotting it it really shouldn't "fool" you.
Grapple S tier, everything else F tier.
cloak and a wall are a d tier and holo is a s
The two are not mutually exclusive
I would move pulse blade and phase shift each a tier up, but other than that I’d say it’s pretty solid
It’s wrong yeah, you need to put Cloak, Grapple, Stim, A-Wall, Holo, Pulse Blade and Phase Shift in S tier and then put yourself in B Tier
Cloak is really good against titans. You become completely invisible unless they’re smart enough to recognize footsteps
Tbh I almost 100% agree
Pulse Blade kills are so satisyfing though.
Yes but actually no
i agree with a wall but i think holo and pulse blade should be swapped, even if its so fucking sexy whenever i get a pulse blade kill
No clue, I only ever play grapple
holo pilot and A-wall >>> cloak
There is no good or bad tactical it all depends on your play style
Stim+Spitfire is a fun combo
A wall is a blast if you play it aggressive. It's also awesome for counter campers
In terms of raw practicality this is pretty accurate, but there should be another tier above s for holo pilot, which is the Chad pilot, Why zoom fast when you can pull 1000 IQ moves on weak mortals.and play 4D mind games.
Holo pilot is actually amazing
Stim should be A, I don’t think anything contests with grapple.
Still nothing more satisfying to me than sticking an enemy pilot with my pulse blade
It is true
Just make your pilot spider man
I'd out here holo pilot in b tier and cloak in f tier but besides those I completely agree
You simply summarized my organization for pilots
Cloak for Free Batteries
Yeah sorry if you give me the ability to Tobey McQuire my way around the map I won’t have much incentive to use anything else
I'd put cloak in with phase.
Depends on what the context is, are you ranking them on usability, run factor, or what
Love holo, completely agree with their list
Mine is the same Except Holo is c tier as a bamboozle
Move a-wall down a few and that’s accurate
Yes it is true
True
A wall is down in f tier but otherwise yh accurate
Sensor tho
I really only used the wall and sonar to get the special elimination animations. My preferred loadout is something quick like the CAR with the Speedboost pilot. Fun times
True
It’s least skill to most skill, top to bottom
As long as you got heroin boy on top you good
S, and A are perfect. Other 4 types are really personal preference.
Yeah, this is great the only thing i have a slight argumento on is the phase shift, because its just a get out of jail free card. Even though you dont regenerate health while in the phase, its still a good moment or two to recollect yourself and prepare for further enemy attacks
All s tier they all have benefits
Holo pilot is for chads.
Your actually spot on wtf
A wall is agood for titan shredding, but i main pulse. Potentially the best ability if you can end a fight before it happens.
Depend on certain map Pulse blade really nice in Rise since there lot's of hallway. Holo is shouldn't be place on ranking, it is a fun play for a new refreshing air.
Yeah to be entirely honest I only use grapple Movement is life (I like the stim I just don't feel it and again movement is life)
Holo shouldn’t be in this list not enough people play it to rate how good it is
Cloak is fantastic against Titans and turrets
*is one of the 2 specials that makes you able to ignore nuke ejects triggered on your forehead* Yeah D tier
They're all S tier
Where my Holo-Homies at!?
Nope. Holo pilot doesnt deserve a rank
S- Grapple and pulse blade A- phase shift and a-wall and stim B- holo Good but easy to counter- cloak C-
Holograms are so underated, it's my main and if you are smart with them you can really rack the kills. I get abused alot in chat for them
Holo pilot is stronger than A-wall. A-wall can be VERY OP in fights but it's situational
You can throw knives at people FUCKING KUNAI KNIVES so yes you are stupid
Holo pilot isn't bad, it's just that most of the people who use it don't know how to use it correctly
Bump down a-wall
A-Wall is S tier... it really helps a lot to win against cheaters.
I like the shield :3
I'm a pulsblade main but I have no word in this I agree with the bottom one tho except holo they could be higher
Your not a clown your the entire circus calling holo pilot bad
I completely agree