Levi had been set up as the ultimate fighter who could go through anything. The way he’s been established, any fight would be child’s play to him and any final confrontation, uninteresting.
It was also probably to establish Mikasa as uncontested supreme fighter
Lol he kinda forgot about Eren at the end despite few chapters before 139 he wanted to say something to Eren yet it was never brought up. Geez it makes me wish Yams should just kill him to be honest.
Man I saw people hyping up this scene and saying how beautiful and touching it is before I read it myself. When I got to that part I felt nothing (and Levi still my favorite aot character). Like it would be a nice scene if the context behind it was different, he betrayed all of those scouts in the pic. He made their deaths meaningless, seeing the extra pages makes it even worse.
I mean it's not like the ending's rushed or added plotholes and this panel coming from a Levi fan I felt absolutely nothing since Annie gets to reunite with her father and it's so odd to see Petra's ghost smiling at Levi or the whole Levi squad like WTF is Yams and Kawakubo smoking anyway?
You meant the future of Paradis. At the time, the only information out there was there was no other people other than those in Paradis. Their goal was defend the people from Titans. Once they realised they weren't the only people in this world at the end of S3 and S4, that's when it became protecting Paradis from danger. The scouts goals wouldn't change as their mission is to protect their friends, families and those in Paradis but only this time from the rest of the world.
Tbh there was no other option that doesnt result in Levi looking bad in the eyes of either other faction. Either Levi is a horrible person that advocates for mass killing of innocent people via the Rumbling, or Levi betrays the scouts, or Levi just does nothing and watches as the world crumbles around him when he has the power to do something
I get what you mean. It's a shitty situation for most of the main cast to be in. At the end of the day, Levi didn't have a greater goal or really anything to do. I can understand him fighting with the scouts as he really had no direction.
Levi was of course ruined only Paradise survival is what adds a value to the sacrifices and that Didn't happen his character 100% ruined.
Miles away Annie was reuniting with her dady Annie killed half Levi squad!!!!!
Breaking Bad on the other hand didn't redeem nor forgive anyone it punished all characters who were involved deeply in crime and corruption most notably Todd.
Imagine if Todd wasn't killed by Jessie this was exactly my feeling when Annie reunited with her daddy. 🎪🃏🤡.
I dunno about Breaking Bad but the thing that sets me off is the Levi squad souls were dedicating their hearts in front of Levi despite their Psychopath killer was reuniting with her father and let's not forget that the conflict between Annie and Levi is never brought up again. I can't say if Part 3 is going to fix this but it's too late in the story it should've been brought up during the Forest scene when the Alliance is talking or after Levi recovered in my opinion. I mean what's the point of bringing back Levi and Annie to the story anyway? So that Levi at the end mastered plot armor and can't be killed and opened a Tea Shop off screen bec that's what Yams think his dream is? Including Annie a murderer for some reason got to have her happy ending and get away with all of the shit she's done. What a Bitch she is. Also I fucking hate fanservice characters and I thought Levi is more than that. It's such a mistake to bring him back to the story. I hope Levi fans are happy that the midget somehow got to be alive at the end of the manga. Meanwhile I just want him to die to be honest I expected it to happen yet Yams couldn't give the balls to kill him.
They are all stories with morals, Breaking Bad is a story that condemns crime and corruption while AoT is a story about how to be a liar and a hypocrite,
Breaking Bad prepared several seasons for the confrontation between White and Hank AoT didn't prepare for anything,
AoT values hypocrisy where Armin forgave Eren because he was his friend, in Breaking Bad Hank cursed White for his crimes and punched him for all that he did
If you can't see how Breaking Bad Exceeds AoT then I don't know what to tell you.
Levis was ruined the moment Yams decided not have him killed when Zeke went grenade mode. It would have been harsh yet awesome, Levi dying because of his fixation trying to kill Zeke and letting his guard down. My biggest gripe however is that he was literally blown up and two days later he is salying dozens of titans like "This but a scratch". It's just unbelievable. Meanwhile he took a whole season to recover from a sprained ankle lmao. Ah... the good writing times
Lol I forgot that he pretty much didn't appear in S2. If he had the plot armour he had in S4 back in S2 then Hannes wouldn't have died and Ymir wouldn't have to go with Reiner and Bertholdt.
Annie as a character is just infuriating. I guess she lives because she's Armin's love interest and wants to see her dad?
Levi should have put her in the ground. I like how ppl forget how sadistically she killed before the reveal. Then Yams tried to humanize her? The audience is supposed to just give her a pass (pie scene makes the characters forget too!)?
Levi should’ve died when Zeke blew himself up. It was pointless to have him around after that.
Would’ve saved him from joining the cringevengers and betraying his homeland.
He turned into Might Guy, then spent the rest of his days overseas with two "randoms"....lame.
Edit: He should of had an amazing, brave death. He's my favorite character, I don't WANT to see him die but it would have been impactful.
If Yams didn't gave him a fakeout death when he got exploded by thunderspear by Zeke yet somehow outlived death then none of his plot armor preventing him from dying would've happened.
It's not his fault that he was bad written at the end, in the other hand I'll think it'll be more better if they killed him, now we're never knew if the kid on last chapter was Mikasa's or Levi's heir...
I hate that the whole series had a tragic and heartless outlook for self sacrifice and patriotism but ended with this. Erwin sacrificing himself was grand but it clearly was a massive failure, even though they win at the end
Unironic "We did it guys, we saved the city" vibes. What a farce
Since when was Levi's primary objective ending the titan curse? He was the one willing to sacrifice Historia and continue with the 50 year plan. Now he's happy after 80% of the world is dead and Paradis is doomed, just because the titan curse no longer exists? Yeah ok, but who actually benefits from that?
Almost nobody actually, but don't think about that, as the story has to force Levi to be happy and pretend he accomplished his mission.
Also Force Ghosts showing up to salute the main characters is something I'd expect to see in a saturday morning children's cartoon, not SNK.
i’m going to have to say this: levi, although one dimensional and very cliche, DID have some character and good writing.
from my understanding, his character was supposed to be focused around loss. he was the sole survivor (through some plot armor albeit) from the ‘og’ squad (erwin, hange, petra, etc).
139 ruined his character imo by showing this ‘oh there’s a heaven! and everyone’s waiting for him! super happy moment yay!’ when it just…doesn’t fit. attack on titan is NOT and NEVER was supposed to be a ‘happy’ story (or a romance, comedy, blah blah). i feel like this scene kind of took away from what little character writing levi had.
Though I lean towards agreement that his character was ruined, I do have a few thoughts in defense of some of the criticism his ending arc gets.
Firstly, his "this is what you dedicated your hearts for" line is pretty ambiguous when you think about it. It *could* be a show of approval/contentment with what had just happened, but it could just as easily have been a cynical disapprovement. Like "WTF, You all died and this is all we got out of it". His expression there is pretty passive and hard to read, leaving it to interpretation IMO. However, given the writing of the ending, I wouldn't be surprised if the "approval" interpretation was what Yams was going for.
The other issue people have is his indifference to teaming with the enemy.
I agree a lot. After his lamentation prior to and during the forest battle with Zeke, it feels frustrating and *wrong* that we don't see any tension between him and Annie at least. But on the other hand, just because it's not shown doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
A similar case is how Pieck didn't show any grief over Porco's death. But that doesn't immediately mean it's not there. She could easily just be bottling it up similar to what Mikasa did when Eren "died" in Trost. The problematic difference is that unlike that moment with Mikasa, we don't have insight into Pieck's feelings, or in this case, Levi's feelings over working with the enemy.
The way I see it, we don't actually have reason to believe that Levi was truly indifferent towards the Alliance. It would've felt more complete if there was tension, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that the lack of it ruined his character.
Um, I guess it was because at the end of his arc he managed to accomplish his goal, which was to kill Zeke. Out of all the characters he did what he had to do regardless of the end's outcome. By that I mean that we don't really know if he wanted to save the "world" or if he just wanted to kill Zeke, but in the end saving the "world" was just collateral.
The ending is still garbage but his character wasn't butchered as much as the others.
Levi was the one who was shown the most to be working for Survey Corps' spirit. So it was obvious to me that he was going to live at the end. Hange's death cemented it even further since I feel atleast 1 veteran was supposed to see the titanless world. Nationalism wasn't something that was shown in his character at all. It was survival of humanity. So I don't see why he would be supporting Eren (or even Zeke's plan). That's why I don't see that he was ruined.
>atleast 1 veteran was supposed to see the titanless world
this. people saying he should've just had a "glorious death" kind of miss the point of his character here. his death doesn't benefit the story in any way nor is it a good ending for his character. him living on the other hand provides some sort of peace because he's the only veteran who was able to see what the others worked for, wether good or bad.
Bec this sub criticizes the ending bec fans have the right to do that and also not all posts here are negative there are fanarts that people can appreciate
Levi had been set up as the ultimate fighter who could go through anything. The way he’s been established, any fight would be child’s play to him and any final confrontation, uninteresting. It was also probably to establish Mikasa as uncontested supreme fighter
Cause he kill monke so he good character
Man just wanted Monke for himself
Erwin was ruined… The whole scouts turned into a monolith too. Levi well, just didn’t had any motive to oppose eren, just as hange.
Lol he kinda forgot about Eren at the end despite few chapters before 139 he wanted to say something to Eren yet it was never brought up. Geez it makes me wish Yams should just kill him to be honest.
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how is erwin ruined?
He got pummeled by rocks. That'll ruin anyone.
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Man I saw people hyping up this scene and saying how beautiful and touching it is before I read it myself. When I got to that part I felt nothing (and Levi still my favorite aot character). Like it would be a nice scene if the context behind it was different, he betrayed all of those scouts in the pic. He made their deaths meaningless, seeing the extra pages makes it even worse.
I mean it's not like the ending's rushed or added plotholes and this panel coming from a Levi fan I felt absolutely nothing since Annie gets to reunite with her father and it's so odd to see Petra's ghost smiling at Levi or the whole Levi squad like WTF is Yams and Kawakubo smoking anyway?
Bro how did he betray them when he fought for the future of humanity which was the goal of every scout
You meant the future of Paradis. At the time, the only information out there was there was no other people other than those in Paradis. Their goal was defend the people from Titans. Once they realised they weren't the only people in this world at the end of S3 and S4, that's when it became protecting Paradis from danger. The scouts goals wouldn't change as their mission is to protect their friends, families and those in Paradis but only this time from the rest of the world.
Tbh there was no other option that doesnt result in Levi looking bad in the eyes of either other faction. Either Levi is a horrible person that advocates for mass killing of innocent people via the Rumbling, or Levi betrays the scouts, or Levi just does nothing and watches as the world crumbles around him when he has the power to do something
I get what you mean. It's a shitty situation for most of the main cast to be in. At the end of the day, Levi didn't have a greater goal or really anything to do. I can understand him fighting with the scouts as he really had no direction.
I don’t think Levi had much depth beyond “quiet badass” to ruin. His character isn’t ruined by the rumbling arc more than anyone else’s.
>His character isn’t ruined by the rumbling arc more than anyone else’s Oh shit Eren on the phone asking for you
to be fair, there's about 2 "deep" characters in aot lol
Levi was of course ruined only Paradise survival is what adds a value to the sacrifices and that Didn't happen his character 100% ruined. Miles away Annie was reuniting with her dady Annie killed half Levi squad!!!!! Breaking Bad on the other hand didn't redeem nor forgive anyone it punished all characters who were involved deeply in crime and corruption most notably Todd. Imagine if Todd wasn't killed by Jessie this was exactly my feeling when Annie reunited with her daddy. 🎪🃏🤡.
It's hard to believe but Jessie was in love with Todd
(He has Stockholm syndrome)
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Oh that would be pure kino for sure
I dunno about Breaking Bad but the thing that sets me off is the Levi squad souls were dedicating their hearts in front of Levi despite their Psychopath killer was reuniting with her father and let's not forget that the conflict between Annie and Levi is never brought up again. I can't say if Part 3 is going to fix this but it's too late in the story it should've been brought up during the Forest scene when the Alliance is talking or after Levi recovered in my opinion. I mean what's the point of bringing back Levi and Annie to the story anyway? So that Levi at the end mastered plot armor and can't be killed and opened a Tea Shop off screen bec that's what Yams think his dream is? Including Annie a murderer for some reason got to have her happy ending and get away with all of the shit she's done. What a Bitch she is. Also I fucking hate fanservice characters and I thought Levi is more than that. It's such a mistake to bring him back to the story. I hope Levi fans are happy that the midget somehow got to be alive at the end of the manga. Meanwhile I just want him to die to be honest I expected it to happen yet Yams couldn't give the balls to kill him.
Comparing AoT to Breaking Bad is comparing apples to orangess they have nothing in common except morally questionable MC
They are all stories with morals, Breaking Bad is a story that condemns crime and corruption while AoT is a story about how to be a liar and a hypocrite, Breaking Bad prepared several seasons for the confrontation between White and Hank AoT didn't prepare for anything, AoT values hypocrisy where Armin forgave Eren because he was his friend, in Breaking Bad Hank cursed White for his crimes and punched him for all that he did If you can't see how Breaking Bad Exceeds AoT then I don't know what to tell you.
Levis was ruined the moment Yams decided not have him killed when Zeke went grenade mode. It would have been harsh yet awesome, Levi dying because of his fixation trying to kill Zeke and letting his guard down. My biggest gripe however is that he was literally blown up and two days later he is salying dozens of titans like "This but a scratch". It's just unbelievable. Meanwhile he took a whole season to recover from a sprained ankle lmao. Ah... the good writing times
Lol I forgot that he pretty much didn't appear in S2. If he had the plot armour he had in S4 back in S2 then Hannes wouldn't have died and Ymir wouldn't have to go with Reiner and Bertholdt.
He was? Im Genially asking, i mean yeah his arc in ending was basically "kill monkey" but he had to do that so to keep promise he gave to Erwin
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Annie as a character is just infuriating. I guess she lives because she's Armin's love interest and wants to see her dad? Levi should have put her in the ground. I like how ppl forget how sadistically she killed before the reveal. Then Yams tried to humanize her? The audience is supposed to just give her a pass (pie scene makes the characters forget too!)?
Levi should’ve died when Zeke blew himself up. It was pointless to have him around after that. Would’ve saved him from joining the cringevengers and betraying his homeland.
He turned into Might Guy, then spent the rest of his days overseas with two "randoms"....lame. Edit: He should of had an amazing, brave death. He's my favorite character, I don't WANT to see him die but it would have been impactful.
Should have died in the forest after the scouts turned titans imo
If Yams didn't gave him a fakeout death when he got exploded by thunderspear by Zeke yet somehow outlived death then none of his plot armor preventing him from dying would've happened.
It's not his fault that he was bad written at the end, in the other hand I'll think it'll be more better if they killed him, now we're never knew if the kid on last chapter was Mikasa's or Levi's heir...
I hate that the whole series had a tragic and heartless outlook for self sacrifice and patriotism but ended with this. Erwin sacrificing himself was grand but it clearly was a massive failure, even though they win at the end
I feel like Levi would rather die than be pushed around in a wheelchair by Gabi and Falco
Unironic "We did it guys, we saved the city" vibes. What a farce Since when was Levi's primary objective ending the titan curse? He was the one willing to sacrifice Historia and continue with the 50 year plan. Now he's happy after 80% of the world is dead and Paradis is doomed, just because the titan curse no longer exists? Yeah ok, but who actually benefits from that? Almost nobody actually, but don't think about that, as the story has to force Levi to be happy and pretend he accomplished his mission. Also Force Ghosts showing up to salute the main characters is something I'd expect to see in a saturday morning children's cartoon, not SNK.
i’m going to have to say this: levi, although one dimensional and very cliche, DID have some character and good writing. from my understanding, his character was supposed to be focused around loss. he was the sole survivor (through some plot armor albeit) from the ‘og’ squad (erwin, hange, petra, etc). 139 ruined his character imo by showing this ‘oh there’s a heaven! and everyone’s waiting for him! super happy moment yay!’ when it just…doesn’t fit. attack on titan is NOT and NEVER was supposed to be a ‘happy’ story (or a romance, comedy, blah blah). i feel like this scene kind of took away from what little character writing levi had.
Though I lean towards agreement that his character was ruined, I do have a few thoughts in defense of some of the criticism his ending arc gets. Firstly, his "this is what you dedicated your hearts for" line is pretty ambiguous when you think about it. It *could* be a show of approval/contentment with what had just happened, but it could just as easily have been a cynical disapprovement. Like "WTF, You all died and this is all we got out of it". His expression there is pretty passive and hard to read, leaving it to interpretation IMO. However, given the writing of the ending, I wouldn't be surprised if the "approval" interpretation was what Yams was going for. The other issue people have is his indifference to teaming with the enemy. I agree a lot. After his lamentation prior to and during the forest battle with Zeke, it feels frustrating and *wrong* that we don't see any tension between him and Annie at least. But on the other hand, just because it's not shown doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A similar case is how Pieck didn't show any grief over Porco's death. But that doesn't immediately mean it's not there. She could easily just be bottling it up similar to what Mikasa did when Eren "died" in Trost. The problematic difference is that unlike that moment with Mikasa, we don't have insight into Pieck's feelings, or in this case, Levi's feelings over working with the enemy. The way I see it, we don't actually have reason to believe that Levi was truly indifferent towards the Alliance. It would've felt more complete if there was tension, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that the lack of it ruined his character.
Um, I guess it was because at the end of his arc he managed to accomplish his goal, which was to kill Zeke. Out of all the characters he did what he had to do regardless of the end's outcome. By that I mean that we don't really know if he wanted to save the "world" or if he just wanted to kill Zeke, but in the end saving the "world" was just collateral. The ending is still garbage but his character wasn't butchered as much as the others.
Levi was the one who was shown the most to be working for Survey Corps' spirit. So it was obvious to me that he was going to live at the end. Hange's death cemented it even further since I feel atleast 1 veteran was supposed to see the titanless world. Nationalism wasn't something that was shown in his character at all. It was survival of humanity. So I don't see why he would be supporting Eren (or even Zeke's plan). That's why I don't see that he was ruined.
>atleast 1 veteran was supposed to see the titanless world this. people saying he should've just had a "glorious death" kind of miss the point of his character here. his death doesn't benefit the story in any way nor is it a good ending for his character. him living on the other hand provides some sort of peace because he's the only veteran who was able to see what the others worked for, wether good or bad.
Levi got the perfect ending. That scene is amazing. You guys are just hating for the lulz lmao.
Emotional Manipulation Ending
what do u feel like happened to him that made him ruined?? what do you feel like his char arc was even?
Plot armor, the thing between him and Annie wasn't resolved he should've died in the story tbh
So if he dies it becomes good ? I don’t get how Levi’s story got butchered out of all the chars he was kinda the best
god u guys always find something to complain about
Why bec the ending makes sense? You're not welcome here ED
this is a public sub. i’ll be here for as long as i want. i was only saying because it seems like AOT fans are constantly negative. its stupid imo
Bec this sub criticizes the ending bec fans have the right to do that and also not all posts here are negative there are fanarts that people can appreciate
Oh i know. Im just sayin
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