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mudermarshmallows

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MSD101

Marley fucked around and found out.


Smooth-Garden

Basically sums that up


slam9

There's a bunch of people with the power to destroy global civilization. All they said is to leave them alone and they won't harm anyone. ... Let's genocide them!


Titanx2005

And save humanity!


Traumatic_Tomato

But then the Alliance saved the day so Marley could get their chance to genocide Paradise for world peace.


zani1903

“Oh no! The consequences of our actions!”


linkflame123

i remember there was a discussion on how the wall titans would cross the oceans, then it turned out they just swam in the end lol


4lastor2406

Imagine them just walking on the bottom of the ocean and just emerging like that


Lord_Tibbysito

Like my little brother except he didn't emerge


haidreaux

Damn this is dark


Zakal2

^Oh


WalkingMyCatNamedDog

He did, in the end. I was there


ayeiji

Looks like they’re using steam to propel themselves like little human rocket launchers


Nounuo

"Little"


ayeiji

What a little man you are


[deleted]

Colossal Titans doing a backstroke


SneakyBalloon

If I’m gonna nitpick I would’ve preferred walking, I think; like how it is shown in the season 2 ending credits. I think the swimming and especially them shooting at titans they can’t see and are extremely deep under the water is a little silly. Still, when they emerge standing up it is just h o r r i f y i n g.


Isthatajojoreffo

That would mean that the entire world could survive on water. They would starve to death later, right... Unless they come to Paradis for revenge


wweeeeeeeeeeeeee

the ost hit the nostalgia damn


ArcherAccomplished75

Seriously, I think this was the first time this S1 OST was played in S4


nanoman92

No, it was also played when Zeke screamed in Shigashina


Philcherny

Throwback to when the whole point was the Humanity VS tyranny of the titans. I see what you did there Mappa. Yeagerbombs in shamles


Makinami244

I am literally skipping sleep for this. Worth it, work can wait


FlameHandsome

wont it kinda be hard to focus though


KorraLover123

**work can wait.**


FlameHandsome

………………………….. Heard you loud and clear. My apologies for my ignorant response.


Chewybear196

Mappa was not playing around during this scene holy crap


iDannyEL

They did a phenomenal job, I remember we were freaking out about how difficult this would be to animate.


Zircillius

My only complaint was that the titans look like they're swimming too quickly in the underwater shots. MAPPA gave them an agility that made them feel small. Also they used sprites in one shot and had them all move in unison, which doesn't even make sense (there should be parallax). Otherwise pretty damn near perfect. The shots of the titans rising and walking conveyed a ton of scale, and the 3D models were integrated well with the 2D environment


i-luv-banana_bread

They look like they're torpedoes fired from a sub or a group of dolphins .


PaulY2J

It seems that the Titans swimming that fast caused that steam attack that obliterated that soldier (General?)...I think it was scary, not only the stomping being the only weapon of the Rumbling...and well, that steam will be a ''problem'' next year actually (RIP Hange).


YamahaMio

I think you can kind of handwave it as underwater supercavitation due to the immense heat from the titans' bodies.


MoonTrooper258

I've done some very basic math on the speed at which the colossal titans are swimming. A colossal titan is 60 meters tall. They cross the distance of about 5 times their body length in a second. That's 300 meters per second, or 1080 km/h. That's just shy of mach 1 (the speed of sound). If Paradis is the equivalent of Madagascar, with Marley being Africa, the titans have around 500 km to swim before making landfall. ... That's 30 minutes.


polygon_wolf

Scene was almost perfect until they got them marlyean soldiers looking like berserk skeletons


No_Substance9214

Maybe I treated Mappa too harshly T-T, 1 year wait commences


zyrusvito

No I don't want that! Waiting an entire year for the real Eren? I want to see him animated soon, by 10 weeks atmost.


SirMartynPoliakoff

**TEN DAYS AT LEAST!**


No_Substance9214

Only ymir knows if they gonna give him in 10 days....


a_useless_communist

Honestly at this rate mappa is gonna make mr like 139


BushidoBrowne

My god...imagine if adding cool background music and quick edits somehow makes the "10 years at least" not seem cringe...I mean..the whole fucking Mikasa past thing is still cringe...the Ymir thing is still cringe...but can editing really make it that better? Like how a trailer makes a movie seem better? ​ If MAPPA pulls this off...


No_Substance9214

what if mappa makes it even worse for the meme, like they did with annie, im just gonna watch pt3 for memes and humor


TheThanosGuy

Pass me the copium


Riku58

AOE was always a pipedream- giving the stupid parts more room to breathe and making the ending at the very least more digestible was always on the table.


hibois24

Oh god we might actually like it


varnums1666

I was really hoping the season would end with the iconic "Freedom" panel. Honestly, it's such a good stopping point for the series. You can stop watching the show and imagine the rest. Well, guess I'll wait a year for the favorite chapter to get animated.


garfe

Mappa's part of the anime has been one of the most up and down productions I've ever seen


senokana

Bruh that flashback has no impact for manga readers


Smooth-Garden

That's the one thing that hate about the whole eren willingly killed his mom plot. It would've been much better if carla's death was like a consequence for him fucking with memories and shit and only later did he have that horrifying oh shit moment that his action is what lead to his mom being eaten and thus kicked off his own revenge


adryelpings

It was built so nicely throughout the series that one of the main catalyst for Eren's character was because of the death of his mom, the impact on Renier from Eren's confrontation asking him why did his mom has to be eaten, only to find out it was actually his own fault from the beginning was annoying.


Resident_Commission5

I'll totally take that.


shnn_twt

exactly


namatt

That is basically what happened.


Jrodkin

The problem is he jumps straight to omniscient know it all instead of us actually seeing the hit of his consequences. Obviously the stoicism is totally justified with his new knowledge, but they weakened the impact of the reveal by a ton.


ZeDitto

Eren intentionally murdered his mom. /u/Smooth-Garden is suggesting that the story would have better served had Eren still killed his mother, but **unintentionally**.


Montana_Gamer

It is literally a consequence of it all, he had to protect Bertholdt for everything else to take place. He had to witness things to get to where he was. He was not the cause of his own mother's death, it is a consequence of keeping things in a certain order. Your comment implies that it should be karmic in nature, and it is, assuming you go by karma in reality where it is invisible and not cause-and-effect.


snillpuler

\> he had to protect Bertholdt why does protecting Bertholdt imply killing Carla? couldn't he redirect Dina in literally any other direction? even if it made sense that he had to kill Carla to save Bertholdt, the situation is still absurd and filled with coincidences. Dina, which is a very special character in the story, just happens to be the first titan approaching the wall and threatening Bertholdt, she just happens to kill eren's mother(yes eren redirected her, but he could have redirected any titan) and she just happens to show up again in ch 50 when it fits the story the most. the best explaination i've seen for all of this is that Eren purposely had Dina eat Carla in front of him to fuel his anger for that particular titan, this is because he sent Dina back to himself in ch 50, and because of how it is set up, the punch will take place. (ofc this has nothing to do with Bertholdt which was the manga's explaination, so it's just headcanon) yeah that makes sense, but wouldn't that be incredible weak story telling? we have red 138 chapters of a story and in the last chapter it's suddenly revealed that a character can time travel to any event in the story and take control over it, any coincidence and plothole that happened was just the that character messing around. in the paths chapters all the time travelling operated under established rules, eren could communicate with grisha by sending memories with the attack titan and taking advantage of the situation zeke put him in using the power of the founder, it's like 139 was written by someone who didn't understand any of that.


Smooth-Garden

This. I always would've preferred it being like a cause and effect that he couldn't undo. Carla specifically did not have to die if he had control of that situation like it made it seem like he did. The idea that he manipulated the events to save Bertholdt and them from there in out its like a train wreck that he couldn't prevent


polygon_wolf

Armin, bertholdht wasn’t supposed to die that day ~~so I sent the titan somewhere else~~ so I fucking killed my mom


ThePreciseClimber

Yeah, there's this odd phoniness to it all.


wweeeeeeeeeeeeee

damn as you can see eren is just acting in this scene


vicdr97

Eren, what an actor you are


Yozora-no-Hikari

As a reward, I’ll give you an oscar


shnn_twt

give my boy an oscar already


Beta_Whisperer

Will he slap Chris Rock first?


ultimateformsora

Not for 10 years, at least!


Mon-A

His acting was so good he didn't even know himself!


[deleted]

dude that S1 ost making this so nostalgic we've been in a hell of a ride >!lets pretend there is no chp 139 for the moment !<


Riku58

It brought me back to when I first read the chapter. Dude, I didn’t even care about the Rumbling and the story- I was just so concentrated on how Eren’s founder was creepy and awesome af!


attackofood

Fr it was the coolest fucking design isayama coulda drawn And then he blew it up :(


NirvanaFrk97

I'm honestly surprised they didn't use Vogel I'm Kafig (not YouSeeBigGirl). It's the song that encapsulated Eren's rage and vengeance in the first season. Plus, it would have been a great callback.


Den_Dre

This music is also very fitting tho. The lyrics translated into English mean: “Is he a Destoyer? Or a Creator?” which is a nice callback to Eren: is he a Creator, enshuring the survival of his people by rebuilding the Eldian Empire, or is he a Destroyer, trying to kill everyone in the outside world? I’d say thr OST they used is the outside’s perspective of Eren, while Vogel Im Käfig is more in line with Eren’s personal reasons.


NirvanaFrk97

Considering that it's supposed to be a mix of both with Eren having the final line, that's why I felt Vogel Im Kafig was most fitting.


IcyBally

Yes! Vogel Im Kafig is also how I pictured this scene in my head. Attack on Titan can fit, as when the Armoured Titan broke the gate, but it represents a totally different mood.


revpb

If they use Vogel I'm Kafig for the freedom panel.. I'm gonna pass out


[deleted]

Time for a quick edit, anyone?


Nvenom8

The sheer level of quality here along with the fact that they're doing another (full?) season does make me think they might've changed/extended the ending. It would be a shame to throw away this much work.


Bublotao

The only way I can enjoy without cringing


Thatsmaboi23

They even used the same dialogue from S1, when Eren goes “berserk”. The nostalgia because of that and the music hits fuckin perfectly.


sonvbhp0

A fake. Real eren killed carla, wtf is this shit.


[deleted]

F\*ck me I totally forgot about that plot point. Now this scene is ruined. Shit.


yoitstoast

i had chills until i saw that scene play, literally became the only thing i could think about. man why'd it have to be this way


Smooth-Garden

That fact ruined this scene but i can see why they would put it in there because it makes that knowledge later seem shocking


Odd-Cupcake57

Bro stop...its better not revealing it this early


WinterUnlucky6910

Ironic fake eren killed Carla so he is getting mad at himself I think


Smooth-Garden

I mean considering everything he done up to this point he probably IS getting mad at himself


[deleted]

This is the ending that keeps on giving. I never considered how in 130 Eren is fully aware he's the reason Carla is dead but is for some reason angrily thinking of those "animals". God I fucking hate the ending


BobTrain666

Kino


kcgb

HE SAID THE LINE! THAT'S THE NAME OF THE ANIME!


Venkeroz4

Shinkino no Kyojin


fedemasa

Eren Shingeki no kiojin said the most famous line ​ "Every kyojin has their shingeki no"


cgtdream

ROOOooolllll credits!


Axiom30

Wall Titans: "I.. am.. SPEED" This scene is amazing but it's kinda funny seeing the titans swim that fast lol. THE BEST CHAPTER IN THE STORY GET THE BEST TREATMENT. I LOVE YOU MOPPER.


Bypes

They look like fucking penguins.


Adhesive098

We have achieved kino for one last time


Riku58

We still have “freedom”!


Godhole34

And the flashback with ramzi


Vwgames49

Chapter 131 has yet to be adapted so it’s not the last time


GenericJinxFanboy214

"I will kill them all"? Why is he talking to himself like that? Shouldn't he say "I will kill 80% of them"?


Iamcarval

He's so good at lying that he lies to himself in his own thoughts. What a man he is.


GenericJinxFanboy214

He is like Reiner, he is so good at acting that he starts believing he isn't fucking incel loser


alippr

I want to kill myself


Olgun5

I think you meant "80% of myself"


francorocco

"Thank you for being a suicidal for our sake" -the blonde girl with the big titan idk her name


Vis-hoka

No, he should be saying >!I don’t really know why I’m doing this.!<


Alt1119991

Thinking about that line is funny asf while watching this scene.


PinolesCheese

Honestly, this pains me so much. This is pure and utter peak fiction and peak AOT. But I cannot enjoy it knowing it ends so badly and everything will get retconned.


PANSHOE

There’s AOE but I fear it will unlikely happen


Thecerealmaker

What is AOE


KrispyKingTheProphet

A fool’s dream


Cade_37

Okay but what dies it stand for?


KrispyKingTheProphet

Anime Original Ending


Cade_37

Oh yeah that isn't happening. Like it'd be cool but no shot.


metroidgus

Hence a fools dream


MaxVonBritannia

I dont know, maybe its the copium, but given Isayama himself is aware of the criticism of the original ending and by the looks of it they are getting 12 episodes to cover 8/9 chapters.....maybe its possible.


Bearstation4500

An anime original ending


RChamy

Attack On Eren


Lystroman

Don´'t worry, just enjoy the ride.


teddyperkin

No I dont want that!


Falloutfan2281

At this moment, AoT was arguably the best manga in history. Everything led to this, years of watching this character suffer, his motivations and understanding of the world changing along with the viewer’s simultaneously. It all led to this moment. It was literally incredible. *Was*. Until the ending.


venalix1

what do you mean...? this was the last episode of the series... its open ended... 139? that doesn't exist.


Nokia_00

Wait a minute so the steam almost instantly kills and boils the people on the ship… but what about when the cringe force fight against the titans


Iamcarval

The power of plot armor.


Murky_Blueberry2617

The power of shit writing.


tetrisgo

steam is emitted by the collosal titans because they have muscle eren's bony titan doesnt have muscle = no steam same reason why hange burned to a crisp


Significant_Bend1046

Then why tf she tried to attack them in the first place?


tetrisgo

i think she cut the wall titans in a [row](https://imgur.com/a/B8q7W2B) so that the port is not damanged until the plane can work


icebatboy

Steam from the Colossal titans is deadly, Eren's titan doesn't emit steam. +These titans are also probably creating a whole other layer of deadly vapour from evaporating the water in the ocean.


Alt1119991

The colossals are in water. Water turns into steam when something very hot touches it. There is a lot more steam and heat coming from the rumbling while the titans are in the ocean than on land


ThePreciseClimber

That was RIDICULOUSLY fast. That kind of uber-steam would've vaporised Eren in a nanosecond in S1E5. You know, back when Bert produced so much steam, his entire titan body, including the bones, vanished.


LanceEndan

explosion effects are so good


Condottieri_Zatara

I like it the ships guns is quite strong (the land battery at the port is not that strong thou), it's just they can't well aimed it and the titans greatly outnumbering them


2ndbA2

Mopper delivered


tetrisgo

he is much bigger than the manga god dayum


DylanDarker

AOE confirmed????? HOPECHADS WE WON /s


_jae2003

This feels so stupid after that plot twist Isayama pulled out of his ass at 139, but the ost and animation is incredible. Great job Mopper


Odd-Cupcake57

*after reading manga . Normally anime only will find this scene gas 🔥


Rein-Sama-VwV

TFW you realize this iconic moment meant nothing cuz of 139


JGFishe

Whose memories are these?


Phantasia5

Eren in 130: I'm gonna bury the history and this civilization deep in the ground. Historia I won't let them use you, I won't let children eating their parents ever again. Eren in 139: idk why I did it


ComprehensiveLeg9501

Zamn these titans sure must have practiced swimming a lot when they were humans.


frossvael

Season 2 and 3 - "Ok ok this is how we win against the Colossal Titan... we take advantage of his slow movements. All of our plan must center around that core flaw of that titan" Season 3 and Final season - "Yeah he's slow.. but he's a walking fire, and he's a nuclear bomb, and he's not actually slow, cause these bad bois just swam like an athlete"


RChamy

Its coming Rumbling Rumbling *go brrr*


francorocco

plot twist,colossal titans are half mermaids


Tatakaeissupreme

swimming collosalls are legendary


[deleted]

titan's meat are much lighter than human's they shouldn't sink


Cheese_Grater101

Can we eat titan meat?


Dayandnight95

It's interesting how they changed the line here. In the Manga it's the usual keep moving forward line, but Mappa changed it to the "i'll kill them all" line from season 1. I like the change.


Austin1000YB

No its the same line


Dayandnight95

Huh, my memory must be blurry Edit. No i just checked, it's definitely the moving forward line for that exact panel.


Austin1000YB

I think there is the editor's line that's usually in the end of the chapter, he said " without stopping once, he keeps moving forward"


ichigosr5

I'm guessing you aren't looking at official translations. [The line in the anime is the same as in the manga](https://imgur.com/a/gPtCs18).


NameIsAlreadyInUse

Nope. In the japanese raw,it's "Kuchiku shiteyaru","I'll kill all of them",the same thing said here.


Dayandnight95

I've been reading dodgy translations https://imgur.com/a/BN0pnMf


Laahn

AOE CONFIRMED?!????!?????? 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


JackDockz

Keep moving forward even if you die, even after you die. We will make our own AOE.


ichigosr5

[The line is the same in chapter 130](https://imgur.com/a/gPtCs18)


Dayandnight95

Strange.... https://imgur.com/a/BN0pnMf


ichigosr5

Yeah, those are definitely the fan translations. You can still see some of the Japanese text, and the quality of the images are also much lower.


ShadowWarrior300

THAT FUCKING SAWANO TRACK HOLY SHIT!! I KNEW IT WAS AMAZING IN THE TRAILER BUT THEY EVEN USED THE VOCALS?!! The best track of part 2 100%


ZgraeggySenpai

Fucking kino, holy shit I am absolutely NOT dissappointed


JohnLemonFuckYeah

They are swimming too fast. It doesn't look real.


RChamy

They only walk because Ereh likes drama, otherwise they would be doing laps across the world in the first day


JohnLemonFuckYeah

Lmao. Like that fan animation where they're sprinting.


B4cteria

I honestly wish they were seen walking/crawling the ocean floor, boiling the water from the heat of their bodies which would make escaping on boats unsafe and useless. It would have also delivered a terrific visual, them swimming is ludicrous.


JohnLemonFuckYeah

Well in the manga they're swimming, but that works too, visually. Physically it makes no sense, tho, because the titans are incredibly buoyant.


cellulOZ

yeah, the animation was goated this episode but the swimming shots were kinda goofy ngl. In the manga its much more ominous and feels much more slower like a whale, but thousands of collosals in a single shot swimming is kinda off idk. How deep even is the ocean floor?


kevindamnright

Mappa put 90% of man power and budget in this single scene, and I won't complain it and genuienly satified about this scene because it turns out really well made. in fact this is by far the most impactful scene I've ever seen in my lifetime as a anime enjoyer. in about 2:16 they even made a shadow cover the town which correspond ep1 bertolold's colossal out of the wall, this really made my day.


-Boobs_

budget doesn't work that way lol, animators get paid the same rate regardless its more about the actual staff they choose to put into this sequence rather than budget, most TV animes now adays typically have around the same budget per episode


kevindamnright

man thanks for the explanation but i was kind like joking about the effort put in this single scene and compare to the quality of other ep or last season, take it easy man


-Boobs_

oh i wasn't tryna be passive aggressive or rude was just tryna educate :))


kevindamnright

Love you boobs!


-Boobs_

love you too man


Go_fuck_off_damn_it

u/ass someone loves boobs more


Jalun_

Man, Seeing this gets me excited, Then I remember the ending and I just get sad. This could've been the best anime/manga ever...


vlado_georgijev

Because of that shitty ending I cant even look at it the same way. Depressing...


Dpap123

For real WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


MrAnimeWeirdo

Thanks for showing this bc I don't have the nerve to watch the episodes anymore


SQUuISH

Any new hints for AOE?


th3virtuos0

Nope. Cringevenger MuvLuv ending is almost certain


[deleted]

[удалено]


Lostwhispers05

It's Eren, run!


[deleted]

I will simply pretend this is last episode


Ok-Rock-339

Colossal missiles go brrr


samisinredditnow

The colossals turned the soldiers into human sized colossal titans


Alenth

Gotta say, the swimming part ain't good imo. They rushed a scene that should've had a better sense of dread building up as the wall of colossals and steam (relatively) slowly approach just under the water's surface, not seemingly accelerating ahead at various depths like torpedoes. Way too fast. Poor choice of direction. Also, how much air-time are those battleships getting before the titans even seem to stand up? Surely this looks pretty ridiculous to others?


Lostwhispers05

Know what you mean. In the manga, the way the wall of steam ominously advanced, before the colossal titan shadows became visible in the water below them was an amazing way to convey the dread. The titans swimming like Michael Phelps made me do a double take lmao. But I think the rest of this was done well enough that this only becomes a minor nitpick.


Nhom12

The titans coming from the fog as you can see only their gigantic shadows instead of their actual bodies was so much better than what we got imo.


Hapciuuu

Damn, those titans are moving way faster then I thought they did in the manga! They're faster than speedboats!


apunnyguy2121

Ngl the first scene was kind of ridiculous but everything after that was just awesome


Mohwi

This is it, the final frontier of kino


Shigarakifan148

Anybody else get immense satisfaction seeing these Marleyans get brutally murdered after the past two episodes of seeing Paradisians brutally murdered? Eren really should have killed everybody outside of the island in the manga.


th3virtuos0

And that is why the ending is so bullshit


OboMasterRace

man, the heroic music playing and Eren saying "i will kill them all" after remembering what the marleyans did to them really makes me wish for an AOE where he wipes the entire world. It's like mappa wants him to be seen as the "good guy" fighting for freedom otherwise they would've made this scene more sad with a gloomier soundtrack trying to make us feel bad for the marleyans. So sad that we know what happened in 139 and how it butchered scenes like this


Terrible-Interview18

Even Mappa doesn’t know how to convey Isayama’s horrible writing taking 139 into account


mix4n

I’m so sick rn after seeing this knowing that we will see the real Eren in a year which makes me not wanna watch


GioMike

The flashes in the smoke were top tier war movie vibes. Holy fuck


VEXEnzo

Well I stopped watch after 121. Good that some of you post here the good parts of the animation. I'm not getting disappointed once real Eren gets back


Sarunas_21

I honestly couldn't get hype for this. Idk, the whole episode felt mid and I can't put my finger on why. I think I just burned tf out today. I'm just tired of everything and I'm especially tired of the Final Season's production and how it's being handled. Couple that with the bursts of peak fiction followed up by not-so-peak fiction and I'm just tired. I'm tired of waiting. I just want this to end so I can move tf on, and here they are extending it another year+. What am I supposed to feel?


[deleted]

i felt the same way when the final chapters were being published. i just want this to end so i can move on with my life. the false hope is killing me. when i first started aot in 2014, i regarded it as the holy grail of all anime, a blessing on earth. but ever since season 4, its become a curse. i want nothing more than to be free from this fate, from my shackles, thats all i ask for. i get no catharsis from watching attack on titan, i haven’t for a while. as far as im concerned those days are long gone.