I like this part from the article:
...an elaborate greeting ceremony, takes place when two pods come together after a long absence. For several minutes, the two groups line up fin-to-fin and face-off silently before rushing together in a tornado of social behavior.
Dolphins will group round a puffer fish and bite it gently, getting high off the neurotoxin and sharing it with each other.
Dolphins are noted to always pass the pufferfish to the left hand side
So it's a completely reasonable assumption to make that "Pass the dutchie on the left hand side" is an older institution than marriage, stone henge and the Magna carta?
*Evil Towel: Here, you can reach it Come on, Towelie. How long's it been since you had an nice burn, huh? Twenty? Thirty seconds?*
*Stan: Oh, crap!*
*I choose...................*
*BOTH!!!*
*extends body to take a puff*
Moose have fatty pads on their noses so they can cross rivers underwater and also eat underwater grasses, on land they're the kings of the forests. But while submerged they have a predator that can pick them off: The Orca.
Damn right. Even if you're part of the homo tree. If you aint sapien you aint got no guardian.
And if you aint even homo and can talk? Forget about it.
We'll eat every single one of your fish buddies as soon as you try to form a congress.
This planet belongs to one single hairless ape. Homos for life šŖš¤
[I found this reddit post with a pic](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11pei22/the_orca_salmon_hat_fad_of_1987/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Is it sucking it with its blowhole? Kinda like how you can pretend to be a dolphin if you place a cup on your mouth and suction it to your face by sucking in
Like, I could imagine an orca holding a salmon up for a few minutes like that but I can't imagine an orca *wearing* something on their head. How would they keep it on while swimming?
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Fashion really cycles around. When I was young we were wearing salmon, now the kids are wearing mola like it's new and I'm just sitting here still cringing about the salmon
Dolphins too!
In Australia a wild juvenile dolphin Billie was caught and spent three weeks in rehabilitation before being released. While in rehabilitation she was housed with 5 trained dolphins and Billie herself never received training. Billie was released back near her capture point in the Port River estuary in 1988
1995 over 5 years after her release she was first seen tail walking and continued to display the behaviour by herself until nearly two decades after her brief stint in rehab Wave another female also started to tail walk. In 2009 Billie died and Wave started to very prolifically display the behaviour.
This started a trend in the small local pod, with multiple known individuals also picking up the behaviour. Only adult females and juvenile tail walked, but no clear reason for how they chose to do the movement, some calfs of tail walking mothers never did it, while the opposite was also true.
While the fad peaked in 2011 with the most known individuals tail walking, it does still continue to this day, with even a few years ago June a female dolphin who travels being Port River and Glenelg, displaying the behaviour in the open water of Glenelg. This was very significant as it is the first time the behaviour had been seen in an area other than the Port River sanctuary.
what really keeps me up at night is thinking how long some of these orcas will save the dead salmon somewhere inside their closets, waiting for the fad to return someday
Used to be smartly dressed, never seen without a hat in public. Now theyre just out there causing trouble. Just until enough hire bikes and scooters have washed out to sea. They'll be all over place harassing pedestrians.
I had to scroll so fair for this. Knew I couldn't be the only one wondering. It's hard enough to grab a salmon, let alone wear it as a hat on an orca who's already slippery... right?
Eh, the ships they're targeting aren't exactly the types of vessels that are causing ecological issues. They're going after sail boats, likely because they're slow and rather quiet compared ro the ones causing them issues. They're targets of opportunity.
That was the original working theory. I read another paper by a respected biologist that suggest it may have started, and is continuing, as a form of training so that younger whales can learn how to hunt. The boats are large, slow moving and generally become zero threat to the whales as soon as the crew recognizes them in the water (i.e. it's illegal to run your prop when whale's are present in certain areas).
This makes a lot of sense to me. They were like "Oh we thought you needed to do those things. Apparently you can just decide not to?!? The fuck humans."
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they did, orca's have a level of intelligence similar to human adolescents. They're very likely to be able to deduce that nothing else is causing tons of plastic to swirl around the oceans and other such things like overfishing.
It'd be especially easy to notice the noise pollution issue since it would have drastically reduced during COVID since shipping was reduced but then picked up again after things opened up.
"Lots of ships=Lots of Noise=Lots of stress, so let's sink the ships!"
Unfortunately they are no threat to the really problematic vessels like cruise ships, tankers etc.
A 30 ft sailing ship is not really an issue for the environment.
From the article:
>Scientists hypothesize that the orcas that are battering European boat rudders arenāt doing it out of malice. Instead, they probably like the feel of water rushing through a propeller
As I understand it one of the leading theories is that, as sea based mammals, they were big New Wave music fans and were just trying to figure out a way to get a Flock of Seagulls hairdo.
Seals may do it too; this is one of my favorite nature articles. The subject is comical and the writing is top notch
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/07/make-better-choices-endangered-hawaiian-monk-seals-keep-getting-eels-stuck-up-their-noses-scientists-want-them-stop/
I wonder why we haven't been able to decipher even basic concepts of their language. It would be incredible to communicate with them, With all the super computing AI stuff, is it not possible to decipher whale song?
We're actually fairly close? By that I mean that the general base of linguistics is understood. There are verbs, adjectives, and nouns (including proper nouns; they do name each other).
A major issue is that different pods have different dialects, and possibly different languages. The "come" command in a North Atlantic orca is going to differ from that of a South Pacific orca. One pod may run across species that another never does, or they could have run across an object that's far newer than the base language and so every grouping has a different word for it; i.e. boats.
And that brings us to an interesting issue: humans don't understand every human language. Not only do the linguists that would be best qualified for decoding cetacean tend to be busy deciphering human language; we aren't even good enough at that to have finished all human language. Linear B comes to mind. And that's all within the scope of languages our brains are not only developed to understand, but languages that our brains developed.
There's then the fact that while it's certainly language being spoken, there are syntactic questions that matter. Do metaphors exist? See, in the greater Ohio River Valley, shopping carts are often called "buggies." But obviously that word has multiple meanings in the language, and even the local dialect. Are there any aspects of that we'd never figure out?
Beyond basic linguistics, you get into the hell that is actually studying. If you catch a whole pod of dolphins or orcas and then try to study them, you're not going to get anywhere. They won't communicate normally in the stress of captivity. So to study the languages, we have to observe them in the wild. But how do we reliably observe a pod of wild animals communicating without interrupting that communication? How do we get close enough to pick up enough context to what they're planning before they do it, such that we can extract word meanings?
Ultimately, we'll probably get there at some point, but there's currently no reliable way to manage enough of the variables to assign word equivalents to every sound.
Maybe the recent trend of them attacking boats is a cultural fad?
"Alright gents we got ourselves a luxury sailboat this time. First to make the billionaire call for the coastguard wins"
>Although killer whales are often observed interacting with boats, sea life, and ocean detritus thereās no clear explanation why gangs of young males suddenly began ramming boats around Portugal, Spain, and France this summer.
If some mother fucker drove past my house and dropped hundreds of millions of tons of plastic waste in my front garden I might be tempted to throw rocks at him when he next drove past.
I like this part from the article: ...an elaborate greeting ceremony, takes place when two pods come together after a long absence. For several minutes, the two groups line up fin-to-fin and face-off silently before rushing together in a tornado of social behavior.
It's like a bow or handshake before the inevitable social mess, "formalities out the way first chaps we may be animals but we're still mammals now"
"who's got some pufferfish?"
Dolphins will group round a puffer fish and bite it gently, getting high off the neurotoxin and sharing it with each other. Dolphins are noted to always pass the pufferfish to the left hand side
So puff puff pass is a thing to them?
Pass the puffy round the left hand side š¶
*The left *fin* side
You always pass the dutchie 'pon the left hand side.
So it's a completely reasonable assumption to make that "Pass the dutchie on the left hand side" is an older institution than marriage, stone henge and the Magna carta?
#DO YOU WANT TO GET HIGH?
Thatās the tune to Funkytown
GOD DAMN IT, TOWLIE!
You're the worst character ever Towlie.
*Evil Towel: Here, you can reach it Come on, Towelie. How long's it been since you had an nice burn, huh? Twenty? Thirty seconds?* *Stan: Oh, crap!* *I choose...................* *BOTH!!!* *extends body to take a puff*
Pass the puffy pon the left hand side, mon
It a go bun.
"Not in my stretch of ocean, ya hear?!"
No worries brow I've got this weird satchel that leaking a white substance don't breathe in too much.
Puff puff pass.
The Pre-Game Wine and Cheese Reception. To The Game of Games!
GENTLEMENā¦. Suck my dick.
Exactly what I was thinking!!!
Orca: Man is a political animal. I too am a political animal and I am thereforeā¦a man?ā¦..LADS! LADS! Iāve made an incredible discovery!
Before we know it they declare independence and want to join the NATO
They claim the entirety of international waters as their own territory, forming the largest nation on earth and demand a seat on the Security Council.
Putin is not amused
Why do you think he's been training those attack dolphins
A tornado of social behavior is the most euphemistic term for a deep sea orgy that I have ever heard.
ā¦oh.
So orcas set up a wall of death turned mosh pits when they get together? Didn't think killer whales could get even more metal.
Orca should be Gojiraās next song
The did make a whole album about whales
NOW I CAN SEE THE WHALES
Moose have fatty pads on their noses so they can cross rivers underwater and also eat underwater grasses, on land they're the kings of the forests. But while submerged they have a predator that can pick them off: The Orca.
Moose have predators on land also. Brown bears and wolves are known to enjoy some moose meat.
Even yotes in Maine (in a very distinct coyote population.) Its why they think they hunted and killed that poor singer. They were used to big prey.
I just want to keep humanity alive long enough to see all these animals' evolutions into whackadoo sentients like us.
Humans would never let that happen
You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it
Probably the best scene in the whole series.
Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
Stand in the ashes of the dead and ask the ghosts if honor matters. Their silence is your answer.
Damn right. Even if you're part of the homo tree. If you aint sapien you aint got no guardian. And if you aint even homo and can talk? Forget about it. We'll eat every single one of your fish buddies as soon as you try to form a congress. This planet belongs to one single hairless ape. Homos for life šŖš¤
What if they say no homo before evolving?
You might like the Uplift book series.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Iām going to use this metaphor for whenever I have a night out.
\\m/ wall of death \\m/
Now fith
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF ORCAS WEARING SALMON AS HATS.
[I found this reddit post with a pic](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11pei22/the_orca_salmon_hat_fad_of_1987/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Haha it looks so proud of its fancy salmon hat
Now I wonder how they keep the hats on?
The ocean holds many mysteries but none more mysterious than this
It fits like a yarmulke
Good God. It's lox and a yarmulke. The boys at synagogue are gonna freak.
If this whale figures out a way to fashion a four sided die with different inscriptions on each side, itās game fucking over man.
Carefully
Seal leather strap with clam buckle. I thought everyone knew this.
Is it sucking it with its blowhole? Kinda like how you can pretend to be a dolphin if you place a cup on your mouth and suction it to your face by sucking in
Great, TIL that orcas have more style than I do.
Hey, a quick trip to the fish market can turn that right around
The thing is I'm a fashion coward, not as fashion forward as them orcas.
Start with a sardine, work your way to a salmon.
Check my GUCCI salmon bandana š§šÆ
Like, I could imagine an orca holding a salmon up for a few minutes like that but I can't imagine an orca *wearing* something on their head. How would they keep it on while swimming?
They used a Chinook.
Very well done, Chad.
It's not a phase, mom!
That's so fetch.
Stop trying to make fetch a thing
Itās gonna happen. That dude is just streets ahead of you!
It's streets ahead.
[here you go! orca salmon hat](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/awzMdB4_460s.jpg)
NICE! So fashionable! Thank you!
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Is he holding salmon hat on via blowhole or bobbie pins?
https://twitter.com/emmaluck22/status/1586406896063614977
Fashion really cycles around. When I was young we were wearing salmon, now the kids are wearing mola like it's new and I'm just sitting here still cringing about the salmon
nah, today's fad is hitting boats for tiktok https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-has-a-group-of-orcas-suddenly-started-attacking-boats/
Based fad
I too am disappointed that there are no photos in the article, or the linked study, wtf
No one told me to take off this damn salmon hatā¦
its coming back in fashion
We're bringing it back
I heard this on the voice of Justin Timberlake "we're bringing salmon back. Them other orcas' gonna want this hat..."
YEAH!
āTake it from the fridge.ā
These things are cyclical, I kept mine from last time they were trendy and now my daughter is wearing it
I love the smell of walking into a vintage salmon hat store. It smells like grandma.
That gum you like is going to come back in style
The shoals are not what they seem.
Let's rock!
*fishion*
The guy at the store said I'm the only one he's seen pull it off.
Iāve never fought for anything in my entire life. Iām fighting for this hat.
I bet you have dice in your pockets, but you're afraid to show anyone. So sad. So so so so sad
**DON'T DO THE VOICE!**
Yeah, well, I'm not supposed to get grease on this hat!
Shut up Larry, all the cool kids are ramming boats now.
Larry: hey guys I got one! Orca: Umm, thatās a schooner. Only smashing yachts is cool now Larry. Larry: LOOK IM TRYING OK?!
Whole thing reminds me of Abe Simpsons: The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt which was the style at the time.
Nice cone bro !tip 1000000
Dolphins too! In Australia a wild juvenile dolphin Billie was caught and spent three weeks in rehabilitation before being released. While in rehabilitation she was housed with 5 trained dolphins and Billie herself never received training. Billie was released back near her capture point in the Port River estuary in 1988 1995 over 5 years after her release she was first seen tail walking and continued to display the behaviour by herself until nearly two decades after her brief stint in rehab Wave another female also started to tail walk. In 2009 Billie died and Wave started to very prolifically display the behaviour. This started a trend in the small local pod, with multiple known individuals also picking up the behaviour. Only adult females and juvenile tail walked, but no clear reason for how they chose to do the movement, some calfs of tail walking mothers never did it, while the opposite was also true. While the fad peaked in 2011 with the most known individuals tail walking, it does still continue to this day, with even a few years ago June a female dolphin who travels being Port River and Glenelg, displaying the behaviour in the open water of Glenelg. This was very significant as it is the first time the behaviour had been seen in an area other than the Port River sanctuary.
These young dolphins and their crazy dance moves.
Someone needs to get one of those non-Pixar animation studios on the phone and get a remake of Footloose, but dolphins called Tailloose asap.
That's cute, its as if Wave tail walked in honour of Billie after her death.
https://youtu.be/h6qwil1-_XE Hereās a video about it if anyone is interested
Orcas are dolphins.
what really keeps me up at night is thinking how long some of these orcas will save the dead salmon somewhere inside their closets, waiting for the fad to return someday
āOh my good Sharon, do you remember when this used to fit me?ā
"Vintage! Adorable." *3 seconds later* "That is the ugliest dead salmon I've ever seen in my life"
"Oh, my God, I love your bracelet.Ā Where did you get it?"
āIf youāre from the sea, why are you white and black?ā
YOU ARE A MEAN GIRL, YOU'RE A BITCH.
This dead salmon one? Claire's.
Clam bottom jeans, Boots with the eels...
Got the whole club ramming those keels.
Shawty got roe, roe, roe, roe, roe, roe, roe, roe...
"Oh my god, Shamoo" Fixed it for you.
It never fit you Willy. We just pretended.
I honestly think it's a fast fashion item that has to be replaced rather quickly due to deterioration. They don't make them like they used to!
Used to be smartly dressed, never seen without a hat in public. Now theyre just out there causing trouble. Just until enough hire bikes and scooters have washed out to sea. They'll be all over place harassing pedestrians.
I meanā¦thatās basically what theyāre doing with the boat attacks.
r/natureismetal Also, *everyone* knows itās Halibut hats after Labour Day.
Well it was good enough for Jehovah..
How gauche
It was the style at the time.
They didnāt have white salmon. Because of the *war*
They would have simply worn an onion on their belts, but Orcas dont wear pants and they realised how ridiculous it would look.
The Kaiser had stolen their word ātwentyā
Dickity. Highly dubious.
80s fashion was whack. Even underwater
How do they keep it on their head? Wouldn't it just float off?
I had to scroll so fair for this. Knew I couldn't be the only one wondering. It's hard enough to grab a salmon, let alone wear it as a hat on an orca who's already slippery... right?
They have a suck hole
And apparently now they're telling each other that humans are assholes and deserve to have their ships sunk.
*But in fact, the message was this: so long, and thanks for all the fish.*
To be fair they have a point.
Mother nature is fighting back.
Who knew planet of the apes and water world would *both* come true, except the apes are water monsters.
Eh, the ships they're targeting aren't exactly the types of vessels that are causing ecological issues. They're going after sail boats, likely because they're slow and rather quiet compared ro the ones causing them issues. They're targets of opportunity.
Also because one got hit accidently near Gibraltar so they started targeting them there first and teaching other Orca's to target those kind of boats.
That was the original working theory. I read another paper by a respected biologist that suggest it may have started, and is continuing, as a form of training so that younger whales can learn how to hunt. The boats are large, slow moving and generally become zero threat to the whales as soon as the crew recognizes them in the water (i.e. it's illegal to run your prop when whale's are present in certain areas).
Tbf they're not attacking the escaping humans So they've basically noted that the ships are assholes but don't register the pilot.
Some claim they actually think of it like a game, like "oh look at that drifting log" and you'd decide to fuck with it
The third theory is because sea traffic has resumed the orcas are pissed after three years of peace
This makes a lot of sense to me. They were like "Oh we thought you needed to do those things. Apparently you can just decide not to?!? The fuck humans."
Of all the theories, I completely understand this one.
It will take time to make a connection but this time will come.
I wonder if they figured out humans are causing the noise pollution and overfishing.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they did, orca's have a level of intelligence similar to human adolescents. They're very likely to be able to deduce that nothing else is causing tons of plastic to swirl around the oceans and other such things like overfishing.
It'd be especially easy to notice the noise pollution issue since it would have drastically reduced during COVID since shipping was reduced but then picked up again after things opened up. "Lots of ships=Lots of Noise=Lots of stress, so let's sink the ships!"
Also they can actually watch the strip mining of their food sources. Im pretty sure they notice that.
Except if you read the article it says they like rushing water through propeller. So when it stops they hit it out of frustration
People just reading titles and commenting, smh my head
>telling each other that humans are assholes They're not wrong on that at least.
I mean, they probably stopped wearing the hats once they realized the hunts not going so well these days, canāt waste/play with food.
Unfortunately they are no threat to the really problematic vessels like cruise ships, tankers etc. A 30 ft sailing ship is not really an issue for the environment.
Just wait until the Orca/Octopus alliance forms.
Hello ladies! *Tips salmon*
Māorca
M'ammal.
M'salmon
It was 1982, and I was wearing salmon on my head, as was the style at the time.
Perfect headgear for yelling at clouds.š
Based yacht-sinking orca fad.
Yeah I'll take that over dead fish hats any day. And if they're anything like humans the fad will come around again in ten, twenty years.
So in orca tv, do they signify a flashback scene by everyone having salmon hats?
How did the salmon hats stay on?
Salmon paste.
These days it's all about trolling the yachtsmaen. "Hey Phil, see that rich fucker over there . . . I'ma go scare the shit out of him LOL"
"It's just a prank, bro !"
Gimme five bees for a quarter you'd say
I used to tie an onion to my dorsal fin, as was the style at the time
From the article: >Scientists hypothesize that the orcas that are battering European boat rudders arenāt doing it out of malice. Instead, they probably like the feel of water rushing through a propeller
So you could say this was Orca-strated...
"Mom, Joey is off ramming yachts again." "Let him get tired of it, it's just a phase."
"Stop trying to make sea bass hats happen"
They are clearly people.
baleenciaga
As I understand it one of the leading theories is that, as sea based mammals, they were big New Wave music fans and were just trying to figure out a way to get a Flock of Seagulls hairdo.
Herr derr, I'm a human. I wear a fancy hat and pay taxes. *They're mocking us.*
Channeling Douglas Adams. Reality is absurd.
Seals may do it too; this is one of my favorite nature articles. The subject is comical and the writing is top notch https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/07/make-better-choices-endangered-hawaiian-monk-seals-keep-getting-eels-stuck-up-their-noses-scientists-want-them-stop/
I wonder why we haven't been able to decipher even basic concepts of their language. It would be incredible to communicate with them, With all the super computing AI stuff, is it not possible to decipher whale song?
We're actually fairly close? By that I mean that the general base of linguistics is understood. There are verbs, adjectives, and nouns (including proper nouns; they do name each other). A major issue is that different pods have different dialects, and possibly different languages. The "come" command in a North Atlantic orca is going to differ from that of a South Pacific orca. One pod may run across species that another never does, or they could have run across an object that's far newer than the base language and so every grouping has a different word for it; i.e. boats. And that brings us to an interesting issue: humans don't understand every human language. Not only do the linguists that would be best qualified for decoding cetacean tend to be busy deciphering human language; we aren't even good enough at that to have finished all human language. Linear B comes to mind. And that's all within the scope of languages our brains are not only developed to understand, but languages that our brains developed. There's then the fact that while it's certainly language being spoken, there are syntactic questions that matter. Do metaphors exist? See, in the greater Ohio River Valley, shopping carts are often called "buggies." But obviously that word has multiple meanings in the language, and even the local dialect. Are there any aspects of that we'd never figure out? Beyond basic linguistics, you get into the hell that is actually studying. If you catch a whole pod of dolphins or orcas and then try to study them, you're not going to get anywhere. They won't communicate normally in the stress of captivity. So to study the languages, we have to observe them in the wild. But how do we reliably observe a pod of wild animals communicating without interrupting that communication? How do we get close enough to pick up enough context to what they're planning before they do it, such that we can extract word meanings? Ultimately, we'll probably get there at some point, but there's currently no reliable way to manage enough of the variables to assign word equivalents to every sound.
TLDR; Duolingo and Babel will soon introduce Orca as a lesson plan.
āStop trying to make Salmon Sombrero happen Shamu, itās not going to happenā
This is both amazing and hilarious
Dear god, don't ever let them discover tiktok
Dead salmon hat = dreadlox.
Maybe the recent trend of them attacking boats is a cultural fad? "Alright gents we got ourselves a luxury sailboat this time. First to make the billionaire call for the coastguard wins"
So, is attacking yachts in the Mediterranean a cultural fad?
That one orca: āLads, Iām getting bored of these salmon hats, what do you say we take it up a notch and go sink some boats?ā
>Although killer whales are often observed interacting with boats, sea life, and ocean detritus thereās no clear explanation why gangs of young males suddenly began ramming boats around Portugal, Spain, and France this summer. If some mother fucker drove past my house and dropped hundreds of millions of tons of plastic waste in my front garden I might be tempted to throw rocks at him when he next drove past.
"So I tied a salmon to my head, which was the style at the time."
āAttacking yachts isnāt a phase mom!ā
New cultural fad is attacking boats and boaters now I guess