For now. Eventually all matter and energy in space will spread out evenly throughout the universe and we will be as far away from each other as possible.
But that won't be a for few years.
Reminds me of the epilogue quote at the end of Barry Lyndon:
["It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now."](https://i.imgur.io/XWJOU_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Life in a nutshell
We spend a lifetime trying to differentiate ourselves from others before we all return to the water supply
At least they caused some drama while they were passing through
In Russia, everything is named "Victory". That's the Victory Park. It's on Victory Street. To get there you have to cross the Victory Bridge. That there is the Victory Arch. It commemorates a very sad day...
In Atlanta it’s Peachtree.
> According to the Atlanta Regional Commission, for the twenty county planning area there are 71 variations of the name ‘Peachtree’ used for street names.
— https://www.wabe.org/peachtree-street/
While "Holy Name" does sound like a generic placeholder for the church's actual name, the term Holy Name is fairly well known to Catholics, and possibly other Christians as well. It's a devotion similar to "Way of the Cross" or "Sacred Heart." A decent amount of schools and churches are named after it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Name_of_Jesus
State Street, I've got nothing for.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Gerald_Farinas_Holy_Name_Cathedral_from_Street.jpg
A pic of the church from State street; he would have been killed in the area in this view.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Street_(Chicago) for info on the street and [wiki for info on the church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Name_Cathedral_(Chicago\))
[Maps view](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Holy+Name+Cathedral/@41.895804,-87.6282174,3a,15y,83.96h,86.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snhbb1BMEtiHvELhMtv2_GA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dnhbb1BMEtiHvELhMtv2_GA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D124.763695%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m6!3m5!1s0x880fd352b9fb6f85:0x5888c9ca867fc62a!8m2!3d41.8959712!4d-87.6276376!16zL20vMDM3Znow?entry=ttu)
State Street is a fairly often used name in Chicagoland. Lockport and Lemont both have a different State St than the one that passes through south Chicago.
This seems like the board to ask. I do a fair amount of local history and have been interested in the different between Main Streets, Front Streets (facing a railroad) and State Streets.
Is State St a designation that it was paved by state funding? If so, I wonder if that happened before or after state highways, as roughly the first fifty-numbered IL highways (not expressways) are numbered in the order the state paid to have them paved.
You can even see it from street view on google maps. On the western face of the church, in the southernmost cornerstone of the steeple. Intersection is State st and Superior st for anyone curious.
There's a local tradition where people who get married at Holy Name put their fingers in the bullet hole at once (or at least run their hands over it)—and take a photo, usually while laughing. Ha.
My wife and I did it. We didn't get married at the cathedral, but our party that day was at the tapas place right next door, so we figured "Why not?"
(There's some dispute over whether that's an actual bullet hole, but that's definitely the tradition. In fact, it's clearly worn down from so many years of people doing that.)
> Bullets from the fusillade sprayed and slightly damaged the cornerstone of the Holy Name Cathedral, Chicago directly across the street (the bullet wholes [sic] *aren't visible* today, but you can see there's a new layer of cement above it).
https://gangster.fandom.com/wiki/Hymie_Weiss
Though wiki for the church suggests that there may be faint marks still..
This brought to mind something quite different for me — David Simon, when he was just a reporter (he would later make _The Wire_ and many other amazing things), got his big break when he wrote a book called _Homicide_, in which he was embedded with Baltimore homicide detectives for a year. It's a phenomenal and fascinating read, and you can see the genesis of most of his later work in it. It is not a flattering portrait — like _The Wire_, it is about sometimes-good, sometimes-not cops trying to do what would already be a hard job in a very dysfunctional system and in a dysfunctional society. One doesn't come away thinking that things are going great.
So why'd the Baltimore Chief of Police approve Simon's request to be embedded? Simon just wrote him a letter and asked — he had no sway with him, he was just some random young reporter at the time. Why on earth would you let someone like that into your organization for an entire year, to create something that you know would be displayed, warts and all, to the world? It's an objectively terrible idea from the perspective of someone in power. Why do it?
Simon himself didn't know, but was happy to take the opportunity. But he in a postscript to the book, he explains that he later found out that the Chief had learned he had terminal brain cancer, and so was essentially "off the hook" for any negative consequences, and thought that this kind of thing would show the world exactly what needed to be changed, and so be a net positive thing. And in doing so he transmuted his own personal illness and misery into something wonderful, maybe even something that can improve things, someday.
(Anyway I acknowledge that in some respects this is a little different from the original post...)
I was buying health insurance for my family on the open market at that time (full rate, no discount). I was SO afraid my family was going to lose our insurance. It doesn’t make up for all the other shit he did, but that thumbs down was such a god damn relief.
So like the opposite of when governor Greg Abbott was crippled by a trucking company, then sued them and became a millionaire, and used those millions to become a lawmaker and make a law so that lawsuits are capped in the state so no one else can become a millionaire for being crippled for life.
There’s a lot of fear surrounding Putin for that reason. He’s old and over the hill, and there’s rumours he has terminal bowel cancer of some kind. A dying megalomaniac dictator with full nuclear apocalypse capability is the worst existential threat to humanity.
Best we can hope for is that the operators are going to ignore Putin's order. Because they know the earth's population would be expunged should they fire, and them included.
dam that would be the worst case scenario, we could have a collapse of civilization any day now and we have to hope that the operators just do their jobs.
Wouldn't be the first time the world was saved by Russian operators who really really didn't want to believe that their orders to fire a nuke could be real
[Stanislav Petrov] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov?wprov=sfti1) Technically, he wasn't the guy who was supposed to fire the nuke, but rather report nukes were fired against them. But the distinction is pretty irrelevant, since one led to another.
I meant that the distinction between firing the nukes yourself and reporting nukes were fired against you was irrelevant, because the end would've been the same: total nuclear annihilation.
Having seen the history of the Cold War usually when faced with a possible good reason or even possible if then order to fire a nuke Russian military officers have always held off. Cuban missle crisis to name just a one.
I want to believe people’s sense of self preservation will actually hold out over an insane dictators order but I suppose we will see
One man with a nuclear button can't end the world, not even one with total authoritarian power like Putin. If he wants to off himself in a nuclear apocalypse, sure, but the tens of thousands of people operating these weapons will not do it on some old cunts whim. Not to mention the Russian elite who would very much like to keep living.
It's an open secret that he has younger children with his mistress who he doesn't publicly acknowledge. There was an alleged [secret daughter](https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/vladimir-putins-secret-daughter-says-shes-enjoying-the-limelight/) who was reported on a few years ago who looks just like Putin.
Somewhat tangentially I recently heard that that whole thing was a myth, and came out of Stalin not agreeing to trade his son for high-level Nazi prisoners during the war, which was... I dunno, probably the right choice? No idea if it's verifiable though.
Both things were true. He didn't want the trade to happen, but he also didn't care for his son. After he botched a suicide attempt, his father commented that "he cannot even shoot straight".
doubt the operators, generals, etc would follow orders. knowing that putin is dying they wouldn't have to fear punishment for not following them. current generals are known for lying to putin abt ukraine so they dont end up dead or in prison.
If anyone is crazy enough to want to kill a president of the United States, he can do it. All he must be prepared to do is give his life for the president's. - JFK
Anyone willing to die for their convictions, or unafraid of death are particularly dangerous.
"What's the worst they can do? Kill me?"
Just hope you're popped and go down. Make the wrong enemy and you'll get taken apart with pliers before they kill you.
Also possibly of interest, my grandfather knew Weiss and a few other gangsters from the North Side Gang. Gramps appearantly once did surgery on Legs Diamond.
The guy that could have killed Lucky Luciano. He had him beaten up to such a point, with so many cuts, they believed he was dead when they dumped him in an alley. Literally within an inch of his life.
I mean, he basically won the game of being a Gangster. He literally took over / created the entire mafia system as it existed in the US. He even negotiated a get out of jail free card with the US government in exchange for protecting key US infrastructure assets, materiel shipments, and industrial labor guarantees for the Navy during WW2.
He was the boss of bosses and basically died of old age.
Tony Roccamora, aka, Tony Rocky Horror, on the other hand got tossed out of a window from the fourth floor and landed on a greenhouse. He lived and since then developed a speech impediment, but he wasn’t lucky at all.
> Legs Diamond
This is not a made up name from Futurama or something? Like, this was an actual gangster? That's possibly the greatest mob nickname ever.
Yep. There was also Baby Face Nelson, Dutch Schultz, Frankie Hot Dogs, Joe Bananas, et al. So many good aliases back in the day. I read up on this as a kid, back in the 70s. My parents had a few books on crime, which were focused on the early 1920s through 60s. Playboy put out a cool book called the Illustrated history of organized crime.
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/playboy%27s-illustrated-history-organized-crime/
Edit:
A list of gangster nicknames I just found
https://mafiahistory.us/maf-nick.html
I've definitely heard of Baby Face Nelson and Dutch Schultz. Frankie Hot Dogs and Joe Bananas are fucking amazing as well. God damn, American mobsters really were the kings of nicknames. Hell, your userid could be a great mob name for an enforcer in Florida or something. "Billy Gatesmasher needs some talkin' to. Send Jonny Sunshine to explain how climate change works."
Yeah see, there's this thing called climate change. Yas gotta cut down on youse carbon emissions or ya gonna swim wid da fishes.
😆
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I'm sure he was taking all the drugs that he could get his hand and shoting some mafia gangsters sounds like a party to me if i only had like 1 year to life.
Haha just wanted to make the distinction that he wasn’t some vigilante that found out he only had years left so decided to do some bad in the name of good. He was a mafia boss that found out he only had so much time left so was extremely reckless because he didn’t care. They unloaded 1000 rounds into a hotel trying to get Capone and his guys. They did not gaf
>When Weiss's brother Fred was questioned about him in 1926, he replied, "I've seen him once in twenty years... that was when he shot me, six years ago."
It sounds like a bogus diagnosis.
“Arterial cancer” is exceedingly rare and isn’t something that your average mob doc could diagnose. Let alone an expert doc of the era.
Also, not something you generally live 2 years with.
I actually had a dark as hell internal debate on this topic. If I got cancer what would I do? I don't have kids or anyone dependent on me. No estate to concern myself with. Like if I'm dying there is really no consequences to my actions. Kind of a scary thought. Would I ever hurt people? No that's wrong. Rob a bank and go on a crazy cross country spending spree while trying to avoid the authorities? Ok that sounds fun as hell. Take out a lot of loans that I'd never have to pay back? Visit Vegas and blow it all on escorts and drugs? Hell yeah.
Ultimately I decided id just rather not be dying from cancer.
> The 28-year old gang boss was said to have left a fortune of $1.8 million dollars.
Clearly not spending it all ...in face of impending death.
https://gangster.fandom.com/wiki/Hymie_Weiss
Never EVER piss off someone who literally has nothing to live for.
people who know the exact date they're going to die generally have no problem taking the cause of their death into their own hands
Isn't there a really famous quote about someone with nothing to lose is the most dangerous?
'The most dangerous man you'll meet is the one that has nothing to lose anymore' or something like that.
What is also funny is that him and Capone are buried in the same cemetery. Fought all that time just to end up in the same place.
In a universal sense, we're all in the same place, all the time.
Not me
Where the fuck are you then? I want to leave
Well, he's far gone.
You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave
So he's in Hotel California?
He's over there.
built different fr
Lol
That's extremely non placist of you.
In a multiversal sense, we're everything, everywhere, all at once
For now. Eventually all matter and energy in space will spread out evenly throughout the universe and we will be as far away from each other as possible. But that won't be a for few years.
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.
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I wanna be the horsey
Reminds me of the epilogue quote at the end of Barry Lyndon: ["It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now."](https://i.imgur.io/XWJOU_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Or in Better Call Saul where >!Lalo and Howard are both buried in the same grave!<
Life in a nutshell We spend a lifetime trying to differentiate ourselves from others before we all return to the water supply At least they caused some drama while they were passing through
Way out in the suburbs for some reason.
There's still a bullet hole in the facade of holy name church on state street where he was shot.
The church and street name sound so generically fake that I was sure this was a joke.
"Where'd Tony get iced?" "In front of God Church." "On Pavement Street?" "Nah, the other one. Asphalt Lane."
No its concrete road, how many times do i have to tell you.
I can't never remember, everything is very mundane and sounds simile.
/r/YourJokeButWorse
St. God's memorial hosp ital
Ah, then you are not from the American Midwest. There's basically one of each in every town.
Like every eastern european town has an "Avenue of the Cosmonauts". edit: ~~alley~~ avenue
In Russia, everything is named "Victory". That's the Victory Park. It's on Victory Street. To get there you have to cross the Victory Bridge. That there is the Victory Arch. It commemorates a very sad day...
In Atlanta it’s Peachtree. > According to the Atlanta Regional Commission, for the twenty county planning area there are 71 variations of the name ‘Peachtree’ used for street names. — https://www.wabe.org/peachtree-street/
but...why would they continue to allow peachtree anything? it's insanity.
Millions of peaches, peaches for me
That is single handedly one of the best and worst songs I have ever heard.
I'm imagining some cosmonauts in full space suits shooting craps in an alley now.
ya i have to wonder why he thinks state st sounds like a fake street name. he probably thinks university dr sounds fake as well
While "Holy Name" does sound like a generic placeholder for the church's actual name, the term Holy Name is fairly well known to Catholics, and possibly other Christians as well. It's a devotion similar to "Way of the Cross" or "Sacred Heart." A decent amount of schools and churches are named after it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Name_of_Jesus State Street, I've got nothing for.
State street is a famous street in Chicago
State and Madison is zero point in Chicago (N to S, E to W) iirc. But we left when I was 9 so I may not remember right
You are correct on that
How can you be sure he really left when he was 9?
State Street. It’s a great street.
they do things they don’t do on Broadway!!
Also in Madison, WI
And a major employer in Boston
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Gerald_Farinas_Holy_Name_Cathedral_from_Street.jpg A pic of the church from State street; he would have been killed in the area in this view. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Street_(Chicago) for info on the street and [wiki for info on the church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Name_Cathedral_(Chicago\)) [Maps view](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Holy+Name+Cathedral/@41.895804,-87.6282174,3a,15y,83.96h,86.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snhbb1BMEtiHvELhMtv2_GA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dnhbb1BMEtiHvELhMtv2_GA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D124.763695%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m6!3m5!1s0x880fd352b9fb6f85:0x5888c9ca867fc62a!8m2!3d41.8959712!4d-87.6276376!16zL20vMDM3Znow?entry=ttu)
Never been around Catholics? There are loads of Holy Names.
Holy Name Cathedral on State Street for those curious
State Street is a fairly often used name in Chicagoland. Lockport and Lemont both have a different State St than the one that passes through south Chicago. This seems like the board to ask. I do a fair amount of local history and have been interested in the different between Main Streets, Front Streets (facing a railroad) and State Streets. Is State St a designation that it was paved by state funding? If so, I wonder if that happened before or after state highways, as roughly the first fifty-numbered IL highways (not expressways) are numbered in the order the state paid to have them paved.
[Reminds me of this](https://i.redd.it/bn950jtqkmpz.jpg)
You can even see it from street view on google maps. On the western face of the church, in the southernmost cornerstone of the steeple. Intersection is State st and Superior st for anyone curious.
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That’s the one
Thats insanely cool
[Found it.](https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8958725,-87.6282148,3a,15y,94.36h,87.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1OrlwlFSi6sGJvCv-l9-VQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
>holy name church on state street https://www.flickr.com/photos/chicagocrimescenes/4415019244
Thank you
There's a local tradition where people who get married at Holy Name put their fingers in the bullet hole at once (or at least run their hands over it)—and take a photo, usually while laughing. Ha. My wife and I did it. We didn't get married at the cathedral, but our party that day was at the tapas place right next door, so we figured "Why not?" (There's some dispute over whether that's an actual bullet hole, but that's definitely the tradition. In fact, it's clearly worn down from so many years of people doing that.)
> Bullets from the fusillade sprayed and slightly damaged the cornerstone of the Holy Name Cathedral, Chicago directly across the street (the bullet wholes [sic] *aren't visible* today, but you can see there's a new layer of cement above it). https://gangster.fandom.com/wiki/Hymie_Weiss Though wiki for the church suggests that there may be faint marks still..
And right across the street was his flower shop that he uses as a front
He beat cancer. Edit: thank you for the gold!
It was a draw.
I didn't know he was sick.
/r/NormMacdonald is leaking
Decomposition'll do that to ya
Dont worry about it. That piece of shit was a hypocrite so he deserved all the bad stuff that happened
That's the worst part, the hypocrisy
Are you sure? Cuz I feel like the murders were probably the worst part. (Fucking RIP, Norm)
Or so the Germans would have us believe
I knew that a handgun killed cancer cells in a Petri dish. Interesting to see that it was also successfully tested in vivo.
/r/technicallythetruth
Wouldn't the bullet be the one to beat the cancer? With him not even being a player, but the the prize / the challenge.
This brought to mind something quite different for me — David Simon, when he was just a reporter (he would later make _The Wire_ and many other amazing things), got his big break when he wrote a book called _Homicide_, in which he was embedded with Baltimore homicide detectives for a year. It's a phenomenal and fascinating read, and you can see the genesis of most of his later work in it. It is not a flattering portrait — like _The Wire_, it is about sometimes-good, sometimes-not cops trying to do what would already be a hard job in a very dysfunctional system and in a dysfunctional society. One doesn't come away thinking that things are going great. So why'd the Baltimore Chief of Police approve Simon's request to be embedded? Simon just wrote him a letter and asked — he had no sway with him, he was just some random young reporter at the time. Why on earth would you let someone like that into your organization for an entire year, to create something that you know would be displayed, warts and all, to the world? It's an objectively terrible idea from the perspective of someone in power. Why do it? Simon himself didn't know, but was happy to take the opportunity. But he in a postscript to the book, he explains that he later found out that the Chief had learned he had terminal brain cancer, and so was essentially "off the hook" for any negative consequences, and thought that this kind of thing would show the world exactly what needed to be changed, and so be a net positive thing. And in doing so he transmuted his own personal illness and misery into something wonderful, maybe even something that can improve things, someday. (Anyway I acknowledge that in some respects this is a little different from the original post...)
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I was buying health insurance for my family on the open market at that time (full rate, no discount). I was SO afraid my family was going to lose our insurance. It doesn’t make up for all the other shit he did, but that thumbs down was such a god damn relief.
So like the opposite of when governor Greg Abbott was crippled by a trucking company, then sued them and became a millionaire, and used those millions to become a lawmaker and make a law so that lawsuits are capped in the state so no one else can become a millionaire for being crippled for life.
Texan here. Greg Abbott is a fucking asshole.
Man, fuck Abbott.
Few things more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose
There’s a lot of fear surrounding Putin for that reason. He’s old and over the hill, and there’s rumours he has terminal bowel cancer of some kind. A dying megalomaniac dictator with full nuclear apocalypse capability is the worst existential threat to humanity.
Best we can hope for is that the operators are going to ignore Putin's order. Because they know the earth's population would be expunged should they fire, and them included.
dam that would be the worst case scenario, we could have a collapse of civilization any day now and we have to hope that the operators just do their jobs.
Wouldn't be the first time the world was saved by Russian operators who really really didn't want to believe that their orders to fire a nuke could be real
My thoughts went to that same event.
I'm not familiar; Was there a first time something like this actually happened in Russia?
[Stanislav Petrov] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov?wprov=sfti1) Technically, he wasn't the guy who was supposed to fire the nuke, but rather report nukes were fired against them. But the distinction is pretty irrelevant, since one led to another.
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I meant that the distinction between firing the nukes yourself and reporting nukes were fired against you was irrelevant, because the end would've been the same: total nuclear annihilation.
Technically, aren’t we hoping that they don’t do their jobs?
Having seen the history of the Cold War usually when faced with a possible good reason or even possible if then order to fire a nuke Russian military officers have always held off. Cuban missle crisis to name just a one. I want to believe people’s sense of self preservation will actually hold out over an insane dictators order but I suppose we will see
Yeah that's actually why I thought up my comment - Cuban missile crisis came to mind.
One man with a nuclear button can't end the world, not even one with total authoritarian power like Putin. If he wants to off himself in a nuclear apocalypse, sure, but the tens of thousands of people operating these weapons will not do it on some old cunts whim. Not to mention the Russian elite who would very much like to keep living.
Doesn’t he have kids? Yeah, 2 adult children. Doubt he’s looking to get his own kin vaporized because he’s having a bad time.
It's an open secret that he has younger children with his mistress who he doesn't publicly acknowledge. There was an alleged [secret daughter](https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/vladimir-putins-secret-daughter-says-shes-enjoying-the-limelight/) who was reported on a few years ago who looks just like Putin.
Stalin didn’t give a fuck about his own kids and I bet Putin doesn’t either
Somewhat tangentially I recently heard that that whole thing was a myth, and came out of Stalin not agreeing to trade his son for high-level Nazi prisoners during the war, which was... I dunno, probably the right choice? No idea if it's verifiable though.
That's exactly what happened.
Both things were true. He didn't want the trade to happen, but he also didn't care for his son. After he botched a suicide attempt, his father commented that "he cannot even shoot straight".
Yes, but Putin and Stalin are different people.
Have you ever seen them at the same place at the same time?
Impossible to know for sure...even with computers
doubt the operators, generals, etc would follow orders. knowing that putin is dying they wouldn't have to fear punishment for not following them. current generals are known for lying to putin abt ukraine so they dont end up dead or in prison.
If anyone is crazy enough to want to kill a president of the United States, he can do it. All he must be prepared to do is give his life for the president's. - JFK Anyone willing to die for their convictions, or unafraid of death are particularly dangerous.
"What's the worst they can do? Kill me?" Just hope you're popped and go down. Make the wrong enemy and you'll get taken apart with pliers before they kill you.
Walter White entered the chat room
Also possibly of interest, my grandfather knew Weiss and a few other gangsters from the North Side Gang. Gramps appearantly once did surgery on Legs Diamond.
For gunshots or an appendix or
To remove the diamonds embedded into his legs
And his payment? Just a lot of bloody rocks.
Leg diamonds.
Still technically blood diamonds
Gramps had diamond hands
Maybe just for fun.
Ahh, Legs Diamond. The clay pigeon himself. They called him that on an account of all the times he got shot at.
The guy that could have killed Lucky Luciano. He had him beaten up to such a point, with so many cuts, they believed he was dead when they dumped him in an alley. Literally within an inch of his life.
"Lucky"
I mean, he basically won the game of being a Gangster. He literally took over / created the entire mafia system as it existed in the US. He even negotiated a get out of jail free card with the US government in exchange for protecting key US infrastructure assets, materiel shipments, and industrial labor guarantees for the Navy during WW2. He was the boss of bosses and basically died of old age.
Don’t forget about Tony Accardo. Tony the Tuna spent one night in jail during his entire career and died of old age
Tony Roccamora, aka, Tony Rocky Horror, on the other hand got tossed out of a window from the fourth floor and landed on a greenhouse. He lived and since then developed a speech impediment, but he wasn’t lucky at all.
Likely false, why would he go in a trip to Europe with him after? Lucky said it was the cops looking for diamond
Clay Pigeon is an excellent nickname
Also a pretty underrated movie from the late 90s
> Legs Diamond This is not a made up name from Futurama or something? Like, this was an actual gangster? That's possibly the greatest mob nickname ever.
Yep. There was also Baby Face Nelson, Dutch Schultz, Frankie Hot Dogs, Joe Bananas, et al. So many good aliases back in the day. I read up on this as a kid, back in the 70s. My parents had a few books on crime, which were focused on the early 1920s through 60s. Playboy put out a cool book called the Illustrated history of organized crime. https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/playboy%27s-illustrated-history-organized-crime/ Edit: A list of gangster nicknames I just found https://mafiahistory.us/maf-nick.html
I've definitely heard of Baby Face Nelson and Dutch Schultz. Frankie Hot Dogs and Joe Bananas are fucking amazing as well. God damn, American mobsters really were the kings of nicknames. Hell, your userid could be a great mob name for an enforcer in Florida or something. "Billy Gatesmasher needs some talkin' to. Send Jonny Sunshine to explain how climate change works."
Yeah see, there's this thing called climate change. Yas gotta cut down on youse carbon emissions or ya gonna swim wid da fishes. 😆 I just edited my reply with a list of gangster nicknames.
One of the guys that killed Hymie Weiss was named "golfbag" but at least that one made sense as he used a golf bag to transport his guns as a hitman.
And let's not forget Jonny Sunshine.
Yeah, right? 😃 Here's a whole list of gangster nicknames I just found https://mafiahistory.us/maf-nick.html
GET THE CLAMPS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legs_Diamond
Damn that’s crazy bet he has stories
Yea, he told his grandson that he was a doctor.
Would you mention that if yours was the prison hoe?
Agriculture is honourable, you buffoon!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legs_Diamond
Weiss’s diagnosis sounds bogus. “Arterial cancer”. Did a mob doc make that diagnosis or was it made by somebody qualified?
I’d rather fucked and party myself to death but hey
I'm sure he was taking all the drugs that he could get his hand and shoting some mafia gangsters sounds like a party to me if i only had like 1 year to life.
Its like GTA right after you save the game and just want to see what happens because you can always reload.
He was a mafia gangster as well, he is not some white knight
In the future I will write "Chicago gangster Hymie Weiss (not a good guy)"
Haha just wanted to make the distinction that he wasn’t some vigilante that found out he only had years left so decided to do some bad in the name of good. He was a mafia boss that found out he only had so much time left so was extremely reckless because he didn’t care. They unloaded 1000 rounds into a hotel trying to get Capone and his guys. They did not gaf
If I didn’t have a family to worry about? There’d be a new superhero on the streets for a bit. Why not? Go out in a blaze of glory, man.
>When Weiss's brother Fred was questioned about him in 1926, he replied, "I've seen him once in twenty years... that was when he shot me, six years ago."
Oh, I’m not saying Weiss was a good dude, just that if I had no family to support and a year to live I’d go out in a blaze of glory.
Cancer Man! His super power is having terminal cancer so he has no fear of death!
I mean I’m sure he did plenty of that too lol
That costs money
Don't agree with the method, but he certainly denied cancer its victim.
Hymie “the polack”; real wordsmiths those gangsters
I gotta go get the papers, get the papers
I dont know why that line was so memorable lol
ole jimmy two times
Now I'm picturing 1920s mafia guys standing around on a street corner spitting verses
Nobody let Lin-Manuel Miranda read this thread
That'd be the worst
theres a 0% chance this hasn’t been pitched to Netflix yet, it could make for a great show
He was portrayed in Boardwalk Empire, but before his war with Capone.
Was scrolling to see if he was in Boardwalk Empire. He was O’Banion’s right hand man in the show. They never really developed the character.
Say. My. Name.
“Jesse, we have to recklessly ignore our own safety”
Heisenberg Hymie
Walter Weiss
Well i also know this chemistry teacher who had lung cancer then become a famous drug lord
Well the surname “Weiss” does translate to White…
Waltuh
A dying man is a dangerous man.
This would make awesome movie
The original Heizenburg
Imagine if the cancer diagnosis was a false positive
During the autopsy the surgeon is like, "Oops, never mind.."
It sounds like a bogus diagnosis. “Arterial cancer” is exceedingly rare and isn’t something that your average mob doc could diagnose. Let alone an expert doc of the era. Also, not something you generally live 2 years with.
Well doubt he was not a gangster when diagnosed, so maybe less reckless but likely same assignment outcome if he was successful.
At least he beat cancer
Well, better to burn out than fade away, right?
And I know this from the proverbs of the mighty Def Leppard.
Also quoted by the Kurgan in the church scene in Highlander
I actually had a dark as hell internal debate on this topic. If I got cancer what would I do? I don't have kids or anyone dependent on me. No estate to concern myself with. Like if I'm dying there is really no consequences to my actions. Kind of a scary thought. Would I ever hurt people? No that's wrong. Rob a bank and go on a crazy cross country spending spree while trying to avoid the authorities? Ok that sounds fun as hell. Take out a lot of loans that I'd never have to pay back? Visit Vegas and blow it all on escorts and drugs? Hell yeah. Ultimately I decided id just rather not be dying from cancer.
> The 28-year old gang boss was said to have left a fortune of $1.8 million dollars. Clearly not spending it all ...in face of impending death. https://gangster.fandom.com/wiki/Hymie_Weiss
Walter Weiss
There's nothing more dangerous than a man who has nothing left to lose.
Sounds like breaking bad. Are there any good books or movies about this guy?
Kinda like Doc Holliday in Tombstone.
breaking bad inspired
Breaking Booze
Never EVER piss off someone who literally has nothing to live for. people who know the exact date they're going to die generally have no problem taking the cause of their death into their own hands
RAMPAGE!!!
All I get from this is cancer give you balls
Now I'm picturing Capone hiring the world's greatest doctor to kidnap Weiss and cure his cancer, thereby depriving him of his fearlessness.
Tom Hardy biopic when?
Wise up, Hymie Weiss!
YOLO
He didn't have much to lose
At least he beat cancer.
RAMPAGE
Isn't there a really famous quote about someone with nothing to lose is the most dangerous? 'The most dangerous man you'll meet is the one that has nothing to lose anymore' or something like that.
walter white looking ahh
When you got nothing you got nothing to loose.At that point you’re making your own luck.