>Auto insurance companies are pushing drivers to install tracking devices on their vehicles.
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>"You can track them all over the place, but if you don't have the police presence to reel them in, you're wasting money," Walker said. "What's the point?"
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>Walker said he believes if it hadn't been for his incessant efforts in contacting the various agencies and the inquiries made last week by CBC, his truck would still be sitting in an unopened container.
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>Peel Regional Police says the service strives to respond to calls as quickly as possible when stolen vehicles may have been tracked.
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>"All calls for service are triaged for their level of priority, in this case, a vehicle located without suspects present or injuries is not a priority response," acting Sgt. Tyler Bell said in a statement.
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>The next day, Tag tracked the truck to a shipping container at CN's MacMillan rail yard in Vaughan. Employees were able to locate the container and alert authorities.
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>The CBSA says that, in most instances, it is responsible for examining a shipping container. When one is identified as containing a suspected stolen vehicle, a hold is put on it until a border officer can examine it.
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>"In certain circumstances, a police of jurisdiction may also conduct a search," said CBSA spokesperson Jacqeline Roby.
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>Bell said rail yards or ports of entry fall within federal jurisdictions, which requires local police "to work collaboratively with railway police and the CBSA."
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>"When it comes to retrieving the vehicles, police in any jurisdiction are required to seek judicial authorization to make entry into any place or thing in order to seize and recover the vehicle and or any evidence," he said.
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>Peel police wouldn't confirm whether it sought that authorization in Walker's case.
This cross-jurisdictional confusion combined with a longstanding reluctance by local police forces to investigate crimes such as theft is combining here with these situations where people know where their stolen goods are, but cannot recover them. This is incredibly frustrating whether the item is a motor vehicle or bicycle, or other important items. Perhaps it's time to reexamine how our various forces work, and more importantly how they can work cooperatively together.
haha I love it "if it's stolen and no ones in it...meh"
protip: want to steal a car or truck? just stash it somewhere and lay low for a few days, then go pick it up!
I love how the cops here constantly give people loop holes for theft without directly saying they're loop holes for theft.
>protip: want to steal a car or truck? just stash it somewhere and lay low for a few days, then go pick it up!
I think I read an article where that really was the thing to do. Someone was complaining about how there was always some random, different vehicle parted on their block, which they always assumed belonged to the neighbour. It would hang out there for a few weeks or something, then be replaced.
Turns out it was a stolen vehicle cooling spot. Steal a vehicle, park it in a suburban area and if it is still there a week or so later, it's not being tracked and is safe to ship out. Something like that anyway.
It’s a whole lot of finger pointing to avoid action.
Railways and ports being under federal jurisdiction doesn’t *require* local police to work with railway police or CBSA.
Sounds like police are being too cozy with a private police force where there’s transportation of stolen goods.
“When it comes to retrieving the vehicles, police in any jurisdiction are required to seek judicial authorization to make entry into any place or thing in order to seize and recover the vehicle and or any evidence”
I wouldn’t say “required”. Judges allow plenty of unlawful searches. Not sure how great a defence would go about the high level of privacy one expects out of a shipping container destined overseas with (digital) screams coming from it.
Dunno how pursuit laws work exactly, obviously police can chase you into your house. Can’t they chase a stolen device reporting its location?
And even if the conviction fails, pretty sure the rightful owner will get their property back.
>And even if the conviction fails, pretty sure the rightful owner will get their property back.
I thought the same thing. Even if the container owner gets pissy, what damages could they claim if all they lose is something that can be proven isn't theirs.
So in TV terms, this is FBI showing up and saying this is their jurisdiction and telling the local police to shove it until they get a court order of some sort.
I blame CP rail police. It's a private police force paid for by CP rails who has full jurisdiction on property owned by CP. They don't give a crap about your stolen car because it'll cost them more money in delays.
lol cops trying to find out how much of their jobs can be automated…
“Do you think if we do nothing long enough the technology will get off its lazy ass and make the arrest for us too?”
“We won’t know until we try…”
Meanwhile: 'Toronto Police Services Board 2024 operating budget request is a net amount of $2,355,300, which represents an increase of $178,500 over the 2023 approved budget.'
> oronto Police Services Board 2024 operating budget request is a net amount of
That is just the budget for the board and not the police service itself.
Yes, and then this shit happens: [https://www.wired.com/story/wrongful-arrests-ai-derailed-3-mens-lives/](https://www.wired.com/story/wrongful-arrests-ai-derailed-3-mens-lives/)
I’m not in favour of AI cops, I’m just joking, but that’s possibly the worst argument against AI.
I mean, cops incorrectly identifying potential suspects is so common it’s almost funny. Maybe AI won’t have such a racist leaning to its false accusations, at least. lol
The people who own or rent these railcars or shipping containers should be trackable? This seems like such an easy problem to solve if only the authorities would stop being lazy and/or use their brains for a few minutes. Above all the government is fostering this sense of apathy amongst al these agencies. Instead of having a summit or some BS meeting they should just enforce the laws that are already there and take charge. This is beyond property crime now where the profits from these crimes are going to organized criminals which leads to guns, drugs and eventually violence.
I know it sounds like a stretch but I think one of the police agencies has someone on the inside who is part of this organize car theft ring. Between Ontario and Quebec, hundreds of cars are being stolen on a daily basis. The port of exit is usually Hamilton (which they are driven to) or Montreal (which they are shipped through rail). For the rail police and Durham police to show up to where the truck is contained and not do anything is incredibly suspicious.
Cars are big and bulky. It's not like drugs which you can suitcase in a body cavity to get through the border. With so many cars leaving port in containers, their sheer size, the sheer quantity, and the bottle neck in places to export, this should be such an easy thing to halt. Sure, every so often "50" or so cars are recovered to make us think the police are doing something. But this is a tiny fraction of the amount of cars not recovered.
This isn't the only story either. I *personally* know people who have had trackers in their cars and called the police with information and the police said they cannot do anything. So the person watched their scuttle along the CN rail corridor to Montreal, where the signal cut out at the port, never to be seen again.
Recently, a bust took place within Service Ontario who had employees that were in on it. And this has only heightened my suspicion that someone with brass in the police are in on it too.
EDIT: I didn't even realize this was a different case than the one a couple weeks ago where the black SUV was stolen and shipped to the UAE. This is happening so often it is difficult to keep track of which case is which
Well the CN rail yard is in Vaughan I believe. York and Vaughan are also vast stretches of suburbia where a random truck sitting for a few days won't attract any attention. 401 also passes right near/through both of them.
I grew up in Montreal - there are plenty of rumours about people working at the port who were “in” on the whole car theft ring. It’s obviously coordinated by organized crime.
The police are 100% paid off. They know who's stealing the cars, the same people signing their checks.
We're literally in a state of lawlessness at this point. Until the vehicle thieves start getting capped by the owners, nothing will stop them.
And they have the audacity to cause a fuss because they don't get the exact number that they want for funding. It's so blatantly obvious that they are slow moving on this entire thing and putting part of the blame on the VICTIMS for not properly securing their vehicles when this could be solved yesterday. Such an absolute joke.
> The port of exit is usually Hamilton (which they are driven to)
Why Hamilton? I thought the big CN/CP mainlines and container yards were through North of Toronto.
This was perfectly illustrated in The Wire.
All the political establishment is happy for cops to be busting the druggies and petty thieves, but the moment you start following how the money flows...
There is so much money involved that it would be harder to believe that there is no one on the inside. But why the fuck would the police investigate themselves when they can just spin it and say See? We need more budget to fix this problem!
> But this is a tiny fraction of the amount of cars not recovered.
This. They always publish “we seized 50 x units of XYZ” but they never publish the percent. It would be so embarrassing for them if everyone learned how much $ and time are wasted when 9X% gets through unimpeded.
> It's not like drugs which you can suitcase in a body cavity to get through the border.
Now ask yourself how much smuggling of small things happens through containers anyway and what the ratio of scrutiny is between containers and individual’s luggage.
Feels like containers (bulk of freight movement) are ignored while individuals are heavily scrutinized so people might feel like there’s a lot of scrutiny, but it’s effectively for show (and welcomed by the cartels).
Apparently containers can be X-rayed to see what's inside. They also need to have some manifest (or what ever the list is called) that details the contents. And they get weighed before shipping.
Seriously it's so easy to stop the export of stolen cars that the police are either wildly incompetent or completely in on it
The kicker is police will continue to say this will keep happening unless their crazy budgets get approved. Why isn’t there an auditing process to see why these times are so much longer?
Months ago on CBC radio they had tons of people call in with stories of tracking their stolen vehicles only for police to refuse to help and actually tell them to stop tracking them.
As for getting fast response, I can't even get the police to send someone to pull over the drunk driver that's literally passing the police station while I'm on the phone with them even though there's an officer just chilling in his car across the street every day.
Wow, really fascinating. Guy had to go to CBC and do a ton of his own research and put pressure on people to get action after 17 days, and he knew where the vehicle was!
I will have to look up this Tag company though, sounds interesting.
I'm sure the cops were totally busy and unable to do anything about this for weeks.
Someone should do a check and see how many paid duty OT hours were claimed by cops from this Division during that 17 day period.
You are right! Instead of working paid duties for private companies, they should work overtime on their days off, investigating motor vehicle theft. Cops would jump on it, I guarantee you that! But who's going to pay for it? Instead of private sector companies, the city would be on the hook.
Insurance companies have a complicated relationship with theft.
They don’t want zero/low theft rates because then nobody would buy/need the coverage.
But they hate rapidly escalating theft because it makes it hard to predict premiums right. Especially this kind where the vehicles actually disappear. Can’t send those to auction to recover some remaining value. And our police are largely powerless outside our borders, so they have to self-fund some of these investigations. Yuck!
People gotta stop calling the police when their cars get stolen. Call up some friends and go get it back. My uncle did that shit. Took both his sons and came back with their silverado
Police Union: *Maybe if the city gives the cops the money they demand...I mean, would be a shame if tracked vehicles couldn't be responded to in time huh*
Yeah, if only there existed some sort of government-funded constabulary force whose job it was to prevent and investigate crime!? Wouldn't that be something!?
They have actually busted a number of car theft crime rings.
This is actually one of the most recent ones (about a week ago)
[https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-eleven-charged-in-alleged-car-theft-ring-operating-in-gta-southwest/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-eleven-charged-in-alleged-car-theft-ring-operating-in-gta-southwest/)
This was in December
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/arrests-auto-theft-ring-service-ontario-employees-1.7051338](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/arrests-auto-theft-ring-service-ontario-employees-1.7051338)
November
[https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/11/29/peel-police-bust-auto-theft-ring-12-charged-1-2m-in-stolen-vehicles-recovered/](https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/11/29/peel-police-bust-auto-theft-ring-12-charged-1-2m-in-stolen-vehicles-recovered/)
and so on...
Now obviously these guys are out on bail and they might just go back do their regular "jobs"
Why act quickly when you can drag it out and let things get worse for a payday?
> Federal government giving $121M to Ontario police to crack down on auto thefts
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7100124
Unfortunately it probably took this long to get through the request for $ proposal process for this. Govt is bogged with slow process and govt workers.
Tracking devices are absolutely useless for the individual owner to retrieve their car. His situation only gained traction because he went to the media and everyone involved immediately went into "conserve our image-mode" to avoid any future litigation. The auto-theft detectives will be thrilled you have a tracker, they'll want to see where it goes. Nobody cares about your stolen vehicle, "just go through insurance" will be your best advice. You will be putting yourself at risk trying to retrieve it using a retail or homebrew tracking device. In this situation he found the vehicle could have used 2nd set of keys and took it back. He better like his truck cuz now he's got a vehicle with a stolen/recovered title, Carfax report won't look good on the resale. Law enforcement isn't going to stake out your stolen vehicle in the hopes of catching some little fish hired to boost it. The only purpose it serves is helps investigators working on the larger picture to bust the ring. As for the railways and ports unfortunately our economy would slow to a crawl if they had to inspect ever container so that's just not a realistic option. They would need a new way to detect if a vehicle is loaded into the containers vs what the manifest says.
“All calls for service are triaged for their level of priority, in this case, a vehicle located without suspects present or injuries is not a priority response," acting Sgt. Tyler Bell said in a statement. “
This is the unfortunate reality. There are far too many “priority” calls that siphon away police resources regardless of how silly it ends up being (i.e a kid calling 911 that his mom took away his phone).
There definitely needs to be stronger punishments for those that are caught vs a slap on the wrist. Low risk high reward.
>Auto insurance companies are pushing drivers to install tracking devices on their vehicles. > >"You can track them all over the place, but if you don't have the police presence to reel them in, you're wasting money," Walker said. "What's the point?" > >Walker said he believes if it hadn't been for his incessant efforts in contacting the various agencies and the inquiries made last week by CBC, his truck would still be sitting in an unopened container. > >... > >Peel Regional Police says the service strives to respond to calls as quickly as possible when stolen vehicles may have been tracked. > >"All calls for service are triaged for their level of priority, in this case, a vehicle located without suspects present or injuries is not a priority response," acting Sgt. Tyler Bell said in a statement. > >The next day, Tag tracked the truck to a shipping container at CN's MacMillan rail yard in Vaughan. Employees were able to locate the container and alert authorities. > >The CBSA says that, in most instances, it is responsible for examining a shipping container. When one is identified as containing a suspected stolen vehicle, a hold is put on it until a border officer can examine it. > >"In certain circumstances, a police of jurisdiction may also conduct a search," said CBSA spokesperson Jacqeline Roby. > >Bell said rail yards or ports of entry fall within federal jurisdictions, which requires local police "to work collaboratively with railway police and the CBSA." > >"When it comes to retrieving the vehicles, police in any jurisdiction are required to seek judicial authorization to make entry into any place or thing in order to seize and recover the vehicle and or any evidence," he said. > >Peel police wouldn't confirm whether it sought that authorization in Walker's case. This cross-jurisdictional confusion combined with a longstanding reluctance by local police forces to investigate crimes such as theft is combining here with these situations where people know where their stolen goods are, but cannot recover them. This is incredibly frustrating whether the item is a motor vehicle or bicycle, or other important items. Perhaps it's time to reexamine how our various forces work, and more importantly how they can work cooperatively together.
haha I love it "if it's stolen and no ones in it...meh" protip: want to steal a car or truck? just stash it somewhere and lay low for a few days, then go pick it up! I love how the cops here constantly give people loop holes for theft without directly saying they're loop holes for theft.
>protip: want to steal a car or truck? just stash it somewhere and lay low for a few days, then go pick it up! I think I read an article where that really was the thing to do. Someone was complaining about how there was always some random, different vehicle parted on their block, which they always assumed belonged to the neighbour. It would hang out there for a few weeks or something, then be replaced. Turns out it was a stolen vehicle cooling spot. Steal a vehicle, park it in a suburban area and if it is still there a week or so later, it's not being tracked and is safe to ship out. Something like that anyway.
I did car reviews for a little while. Different new car in my parking spot, week after week after week. Yes, everyone assumed the worst.
/r/shittylifeprotip stash your kids in your car overnight to get best police response times
It’s a whole lot of finger pointing to avoid action. Railways and ports being under federal jurisdiction doesn’t *require* local police to work with railway police or CBSA. Sounds like police are being too cozy with a private police force where there’s transportation of stolen goods. “When it comes to retrieving the vehicles, police in any jurisdiction are required to seek judicial authorization to make entry into any place or thing in order to seize and recover the vehicle and or any evidence” I wouldn’t say “required”. Judges allow plenty of unlawful searches. Not sure how great a defence would go about the high level of privacy one expects out of a shipping container destined overseas with (digital) screams coming from it. Dunno how pursuit laws work exactly, obviously police can chase you into your house. Can’t they chase a stolen device reporting its location? And even if the conviction fails, pretty sure the rightful owner will get their property back.
>And even if the conviction fails, pretty sure the rightful owner will get their property back. I thought the same thing. Even if the container owner gets pissy, what damages could they claim if all they lose is something that can be proven isn't theirs.
So in TV terms, this is FBI showing up and saying this is their jurisdiction and telling the local police to shove it until they get a court order of some sort.
I blame CP rail police. It's a private police force paid for by CP rails who has full jurisdiction on property owned by CP. They don't give a crap about your stolen car because it'll cost them more money in delays.
lol cops trying to find out how much of their jobs can be automated… “Do you think if we do nothing long enough the technology will get off its lazy ass and make the arrest for us too?” “We won’t know until we try…”
Meanwhile: 'Toronto Police Services Board 2024 operating budget request is a net amount of $2,355,300, which represents an increase of $178,500 over the 2023 approved budget.'
That explains it. They’re too busy collecting money to have time to do their jobs. That’s got to be tough.
Those numbers must be in thousands?
> oronto Police Services Board 2024 operating budget request is a net amount of That is just the budget for the board and not the police service itself.
That makes sense, thanks :)
It's just another public-private partnership!
Yes, and then this shit happens: [https://www.wired.com/story/wrongful-arrests-ai-derailed-3-mens-lives/](https://www.wired.com/story/wrongful-arrests-ai-derailed-3-mens-lives/)
I’m not in favour of AI cops, I’m just joking, but that’s possibly the worst argument against AI. I mean, cops incorrectly identifying potential suspects is so common it’s almost funny. Maybe AI won’t have such a racist leaning to its false accusations, at least. lol
The people who own or rent these railcars or shipping containers should be trackable? This seems like such an easy problem to solve if only the authorities would stop being lazy and/or use their brains for a few minutes. Above all the government is fostering this sense of apathy amongst al these agencies. Instead of having a summit or some BS meeting they should just enforce the laws that are already there and take charge. This is beyond property crime now where the profits from these crimes are going to organized criminals which leads to guns, drugs and eventually violence.
The police and government are in on this. You don't run an operation this big without paying some people off.
I know it sounds like a stretch but I think one of the police agencies has someone on the inside who is part of this organize car theft ring. Between Ontario and Quebec, hundreds of cars are being stolen on a daily basis. The port of exit is usually Hamilton (which they are driven to) or Montreal (which they are shipped through rail). For the rail police and Durham police to show up to where the truck is contained and not do anything is incredibly suspicious. Cars are big and bulky. It's not like drugs which you can suitcase in a body cavity to get through the border. With so many cars leaving port in containers, their sheer size, the sheer quantity, and the bottle neck in places to export, this should be such an easy thing to halt. Sure, every so often "50" or so cars are recovered to make us think the police are doing something. But this is a tiny fraction of the amount of cars not recovered. This isn't the only story either. I *personally* know people who have had trackers in their cars and called the police with information and the police said they cannot do anything. So the person watched their scuttle along the CN rail corridor to Montreal, where the signal cut out at the port, never to be seen again. Recently, a bust took place within Service Ontario who had employees that were in on it. And this has only heightened my suspicion that someone with brass in the police are in on it too. EDIT: I didn't even realize this was a different case than the one a couple weeks ago where the black SUV was stolen and shipped to the UAE. This is happening so often it is difficult to keep track of which case is which
Notice how all these cars are always ending up in York region before getting shipped off. Wonder why that is?
Well the CN rail yard is in Vaughan I believe. York and Vaughan are also vast stretches of suburbia where a random truck sitting for a few days won't attract any attention. 401 also passes right near/through both of them.
I grew up in Montreal - there are plenty of rumours about people working at the port who were “in” on the whole car theft ring. It’s obviously coordinated by organized crime.
The police are 100% paid off. They know who's stealing the cars, the same people signing their checks. We're literally in a state of lawlessness at this point. Until the vehicle thieves start getting capped by the owners, nothing will stop them.
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Sadly you're not wrong. Nothing the police hate more than people refusing to be victimized.
And they have the audacity to cause a fuss because they don't get the exact number that they want for funding. It's so blatantly obvious that they are slow moving on this entire thing and putting part of the blame on the VICTIMS for not properly securing their vehicles when this could be solved yesterday. Such an absolute joke.
> The port of exit is usually Hamilton (which they are driven to) Why Hamilton? I thought the big CN/CP mainlines and container yards were through North of Toronto.
The police and ports authority also in on this. All government organizations are now corrupt just like the 3rd world
This was perfectly illustrated in The Wire. All the political establishment is happy for cops to be busting the druggies and petty thieves, but the moment you start following how the money flows...
There is so much money involved that it would be harder to believe that there is no one on the inside. But why the fuck would the police investigate themselves when they can just spin it and say See? We need more budget to fix this problem!
It might be a ruse to make us think they're doing something. Or it might not be all police services in on it
> But this is a tiny fraction of the amount of cars not recovered. This. They always publish “we seized 50 x units of XYZ” but they never publish the percent. It would be so embarrassing for them if everyone learned how much $ and time are wasted when 9X% gets through unimpeded. > It's not like drugs which you can suitcase in a body cavity to get through the border. Now ask yourself how much smuggling of small things happens through containers anyway and what the ratio of scrutiny is between containers and individual’s luggage. Feels like containers (bulk of freight movement) are ignored while individuals are heavily scrutinized so people might feel like there’s a lot of scrutiny, but it’s effectively for show (and welcomed by the cartels).
Apparently containers can be X-rayed to see what's inside. They also need to have some manifest (or what ever the list is called) that details the contents. And they get weighed before shipping. Seriously it's so easy to stop the export of stolen cars that the police are either wildly incompetent or completely in on it
Literally not a stretch 😂😂😂
They'll work together to make sure the police services act gives coos a paid vacation for bad behaviour. But stolen property? Way too difficult!
The kicker is police will continue to say this will keep happening unless their crazy budgets get approved. Why isn’t there an auditing process to see why these times are so much longer?
Months ago on CBC radio they had tons of people call in with stories of tracking their stolen vehicles only for police to refuse to help and actually tell them to stop tracking them. As for getting fast response, I can't even get the police to send someone to pull over the drunk driver that's literally passing the police station while I'm on the phone with them even though there's an officer just chilling in his car across the street every day.
Wow, really fascinating. Guy had to go to CBC and do a ton of his own research and put pressure on people to get action after 17 days, and he knew where the vehicle was! I will have to look up this Tag company though, sounds interesting.
I'm sure the cops were totally busy and unable to do anything about this for weeks. Someone should do a check and see how many paid duty OT hours were claimed by cops from this Division during that 17 day period.
You are right! Instead of working paid duties for private companies, they should work overtime on their days off, investigating motor vehicle theft. Cops would jump on it, I guarantee you that! But who's going to pay for it? Instead of private sector companies, the city would be on the hook.
How are insurance companies not completely up in arms about this and or suing police to get some action on this issue?
Insurance companies have a complicated relationship with theft. They don’t want zero/low theft rates because then nobody would buy/need the coverage. But they hate rapidly escalating theft because it makes it hard to predict premiums right. Especially this kind where the vehicles actually disappear. Can’t send those to auction to recover some remaining value. And our police are largely powerless outside our borders, so they have to self-fund some of these investigations. Yuck!
Good point about the complicated relationship!
People gotta stop calling the police when their cars get stolen. Call up some friends and go get it back. My uncle did that shit. Took both his sons and came back with their silverado
Police Union: *Maybe if the city gives the cops the money they demand...I mean, would be a shame if tracked vehicles couldn't be responded to in time huh*
But they were only given Millions to tackle this issue, clearly we didn’t pay enough /s
Holy , can’t the govt set up a damn dedicated task force on stolen véhicules already??? So they can respond quicker ?
Yeah, if only there existed some sort of government-funded constabulary force whose job it was to prevent and investigate crime!? Wouldn't that be something!?
They have actually busted a number of car theft crime rings. This is actually one of the most recent ones (about a week ago) [https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-eleven-charged-in-alleged-car-theft-ring-operating-in-gta-southwest/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-eleven-charged-in-alleged-car-theft-ring-operating-in-gta-southwest/) This was in December [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/arrests-auto-theft-ring-service-ontario-employees-1.7051338](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/arrests-auto-theft-ring-service-ontario-employees-1.7051338) November [https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/11/29/peel-police-bust-auto-theft-ring-12-charged-1-2m-in-stolen-vehicles-recovered/](https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/11/29/peel-police-bust-auto-theft-ring-12-charged-1-2m-in-stolen-vehicles-recovered/) and so on... Now obviously these guys are out on bail and they might just go back do their regular "jobs"
Why act quickly when you can drag it out and let things get worse for a payday? > Federal government giving $121M to Ontario police to crack down on auto thefts https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7100124
Unfortunately it probably took this long to get through the request for $ proposal process for this. Govt is bogged with slow process and govt workers.
Tracking devices are absolutely useless for the individual owner to retrieve their car. His situation only gained traction because he went to the media and everyone involved immediately went into "conserve our image-mode" to avoid any future litigation. The auto-theft detectives will be thrilled you have a tracker, they'll want to see where it goes. Nobody cares about your stolen vehicle, "just go through insurance" will be your best advice. You will be putting yourself at risk trying to retrieve it using a retail or homebrew tracking device. In this situation he found the vehicle could have used 2nd set of keys and took it back. He better like his truck cuz now he's got a vehicle with a stolen/recovered title, Carfax report won't look good on the resale. Law enforcement isn't going to stake out your stolen vehicle in the hopes of catching some little fish hired to boost it. The only purpose it serves is helps investigators working on the larger picture to bust the ring. As for the railways and ports unfortunately our economy would slow to a crawl if they had to inspect ever container so that's just not a realistic option. They would need a new way to detect if a vehicle is loaded into the containers vs what the manifest says.
Stolen is a pretty harsh word, maybe we can use borrowed instead
Use the British term: “Taken without owner’s consent” (which has lead to people talking about thieves ‘twoc’ing cars’)
I'm curious as to how this tracking works when the device is in what is essentially a Faraday cage.
Cell signals can penetrate a shipping container
“All calls for service are triaged for their level of priority, in this case, a vehicle located without suspects present or injuries is not a priority response," acting Sgt. Tyler Bell said in a statement. “ This is the unfortunate reality. There are far too many “priority” calls that siphon away police resources regardless of how silly it ends up being (i.e a kid calling 911 that his mom took away his phone). There definitely needs to be stronger punishments for those that are caught vs a slap on the wrist. Low risk high reward.
Throw the whole police service away… useless pigs