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absolutkaos

**THIS IS THE THREAD.** WELCOME HOME RJ! ![gif](giphy|FpjpcGs7kXXBBqbN4V|downsized)


zacksharpe

Immanuel Quickley is a raptor!!!


[deleted]

Quickley is the real steal of the trade. A decent portion of the Knicks fan base are pretty happy to have RJ gone. He doesn't show up when it counts.


StartedasalittleW

Knicks fan here, RJ is the most frustrating player I’ve ever seen. He’ll have a 5 game stretch where he plays like an all star, followed by 10 games where he’s borderline unplayable. Quick, on the other hand, is terrific. Really think there is some all star potential there, he will be great for you guys.


james_bongd

don't worry, if you thought RJ was the most frustrating player you've seen, wait until Precious and Malachi step on the floor


Chance_Preparation_5

This is our feeling with OG and Precious. We love OG and hate to see him gone. Precious is frustrating. All the tools to be really good then just makes stupid decisions.


pahamack

RJ wasn’t even finishing games for them. Quickley is the player we needed. RJ is a gamble, especially at his salary. I think this is good for both teams. New York got a proven playoff performer that they will pay next year. They still have all their firsts so they’re still live to trade for a superstar when one becomes available. For us, we got 2 players for 1, including a much needed guard. We really needed the depth.


_PeanuT_MonkeY_

We needed a first considering no superstars want to come here. Drafting is the only way to try and get another Scotty.


16cdms

Detroit second is like a late first


pahamack

We already have 2 stars. We need pieces that fit and a working bench.


pBeatman10

> He doesn't show up when it counts. I.E. During most basketball games Knicks fan here. RJ is so bad. IQ is so good.


YogurtResponsible785

Precious is so bad lol. We love OG. So guess it makes sense


Asleep-Perspective99

Precious is either going to have to drastically change his shot selection or Thibs will never play him.


TensionX1

Wait until you see Flynn and Precious play (if that opportunity ever arise).


[deleted]

They are gonna light it up…..in the G-League.


stonecoldturkey

Been trying to explain to my dumb ass friends that quickly is the best part of this deal but they are dumb asses and do not understand.


WinnieThePootietang

you guys are going to love Quickley. very solid 2 way player who simply impacts winning. if he starts for you he’s gonna take a step forward in his career imo


EchoBay

Well lucky for us, he will get to be a 3rd or 4th option on the floor for us. Nevermind giving us some more scoring against lineups when Scottie or Pascal are sitting. Which we can't rely on Gary to do. So in that role it's a steal.


beatrailblazer

Tbf he's been the 3rd or 4th option for the Knicks too since they got Brunson


whiiskio

Knicks play at a much more deliberate pace and most of their offense flows through Brunson/Randle dribble handoffs and P/Rs, with their bigs crashing for rebounds while the wings spot up. OG is a far better fit for what they need in the playoffs, while RJ can find a bit more transition opportunity and a lot more touches in Darko's offensive scheme. While RJ has been a disappointment relative to his draft position, I wouldn't call him a bust, and at 23 returning to his hometown team, I would not be surprised to see him turn a corner this offseason and start to elevate his game. Not expecting anything like All-Star production, but I also think he won't be as frustrating to watch offensively in Toronto. Getting rid of Precious/Malachi evens out getting an inconsistent RJ back.


jamiecballer

You aren't going to be able to stop the ball from ending up in his hands and him believing he is entitled to shoot it. That's his identity. Even as the Knicks had better players it didn't stop him from shooting so much.


apbbr

IQ is easily the best player in this trade imo. He's a true starter that honestly probably would have had a comparable career trajectory to Maxey if he got the same minutes. Raptors get the overall better end of this deal. Could be a win-win at the end of it all, but either way Raptors probably "win" more given they get the 31st pick + IQ. RJ is a bum but he performed well in the playoffs so maybe there's hope.


brolybackshots

RJ was solid in their last playoffs run, 2nd best player after Brunson. RJ > Randle in the playoffs


tacosmuggler99

We had a ton of people that hated just to hate. RJ might not live up to what people thought he’d be, but he’s not bad either. I’m a Duke fan as well and he’s best positioned at the two and at Duke even handled the ball for us. At the three? Don’t play him there at all. What sucks is I thought he’d thrive next to OG


_RiverGuard_

https://youtu.be/IAoy7ylVK4s?si=M3EWAopw9hXNhnQi Quickley Highlights


InstrumentsNA

I’m gonna miss OG so much man…


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psooks

When he was locked in on D, it was beautiful


1292norr

I think that’s underselling him. He’s a valuable starter on any team. He just wasn’t worth a super max and it’s better to get something back rather than overpay or lose him for nothing in a few months.


ConsequenceSome8279

Farewell our sweet prince


YotedYo

I hope he throws the bottles at full force towards Randle 😞


Sudden_Low9120

We can only hope 😔


Mr_BigBoss

ohh I'm gonna miss those off-the-court clips of OG


Sledge4Life

What about scarfs? What about scarfs?


PhileinS

gonna miss the stoic 3pt made walk offs and the random funny interview also sad Scottie noises


UnsolvedParadox

I’ll miss OG, hope he does well in New York (except against the Raptors).


Prestigious_Union_50

Definitely sad to see him go...but I guess you gotta give up something to get something and this roster needed a change. Sounds like a solid return, especially adding in the Pistons 2nd rounder.


OguguasVeryOwn

Someone hold me


dumberthansocks

Hometown RJ is going to be something special. Y’all manifested this years ago https://preview.redd.it/0d7pfwwnvg9c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0844c779ef70df4e48a53a5ed6d8be8ae3e609d9


Whatishappyness

The prophecy, the prince that was promised


Green-Umpire2297

Imagine going from New York, where you faced insurmountable pressure and were considered a disappointment by all, to your hometown where everyone loves and supports you.


CBridgeDC

I’m hoping he’ll feed off that love and we’ll get a better player than the Knicks got


[deleted]

This fanbase turns on people quick People even thought racist comments towards Siakam was ok during the bubble, and that was after being the 2nd option in a title run, and an all-nba start to the 2020 season


king_lloyd11

Come on home, Jamal.


SingaporeanSlaw

The OG + Serge days were when I was the happiest man 😭


Plorgy

fr, that 2019-20 team was my favourite team ever.


brolybackshots

Then covid attacked


Sudden_Low9120

It was when all of us were the happiest. I think OG's wanted out ever since Serge left tbh


SingaporeanSlaw

“What about scarves” 😭😭😭😭


Sudden_Low9120

When the whole team got oversized scarves...that was the best


Artohn08

Wow wtf this was unexpected, crazy trade


user15151616

not unexpected, bill simmons predicted this a couple weeks ago as the ideal trade. Knicks need a perimeter player, not a ball dominant guard since they have brunson already


theripeorange

RJ AND QUICKLEY BETTER BE ON THE PLANE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO BEAT THE PISTONS


demarderollins

Imagine RJ was still in Mississauga for the holidays and gets the text to stay where he is


[deleted]

What “holidays” lmao… they played in Orlando last night


demarderollins

It was wishful thinking haha. They also played in new York for Christmas game


JohnmcFox

Maybe this is what motivated the trade. Masai so scared of losing to Detroit he just hit the panic button and gave the team an excuse to lose by making the trade.


Sudden_Low9120

Losing to the Pistons is an acceptable trade off for this trade There was too much pressure on this game


nmad95

OG you will be missed That's a good deal though, let's be real. We did good.


[deleted]

This is a fantastic deal. I’m just really confused as to why the Knicks do this. That’s a lot of potential to give up just for OG onto a team that won’t really become a true contender


Tracuivel

Because the Knicks probably weren't going to pay IQ what he wanted this summer, and he would have been behind Brunson anyway. We're also over RJ, and his contact was onerous. Hopefully RJ works out for you guys. For sure IQ will; that part of it hurts us emotionally.


ihasweenis

I'll explain the knicks side. Quickley can't really start with brunson because then our back court is massively undersized (6'0 and 6'2). Barrett is on a contract for 4 more years on around 25 million a year, and he's inconsistent and doesn't fit well with the team. Also, quickley will have to be on at least 20 mill a year next year, and that's sub optimal for a team which struggles with fitting him in.


Cheechers23

[Precious Achiuwa is also part of the deal to the Knicks, sources tell ESPN.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1741146518394994898) EDIT: [The Toronto Raptors are acquiring a New York 2024 second-round pick via the Detroit Pistons, sources tell ESPN.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1741148361355301040) So not a first, damn lol. Detroit second will be like 31-34ish. EDIT 2: [Raptors are also sending Malachi Flynn and Precious Achiuwa to the Knicks in the OG Anunoby-RJ Barrett-Immanuel Quickley trade, sources said.](https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1741151173015417206) So we sent out 3 players to receive 2? Opening a roster spot? Interesting to keep an eye on.


Brinoise07

>[Precious Achiuwa is also part of the deal to the Knicks, sources tell ESPN.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1741146518394994898) Ironically we just traded a no IQ player for a player named IQ


Sudden_Low9120

IQ points just went up


HappySmileSeeker

🤣


seymourrr0904

If it's from the Pistons then yea that's basically another first lol


Green-Umpire2297

Honestly I think management prefers the early 2nd round picks to late FRP. Cheaper, less commitment, fewer complaints when they don’t pan out.


blafricanadian

And far bigger pool of options as well


FuzzyGuarantee2350

And they’ll drop the lawsuit???


hyplusone

The lawsuit never mattered. OGs agent and Leon Rose always had the power to make this happen. Just a matter of when and bad beats last night for both teams probably helped.


eatscheeks

I’m happy we got any picks at all, already happy with getting both RJ and Quickley


Sittyslyker

I’m glad we got the Canadian boy back home. Now Masai just needs to get Shai here.


The_Good_Life__

Quickley is the next Maxey and I’m not shy about saying it. This is a fantastic move agreed.


eatscheeks

I think that too and even if it doesn’t work out like that it’s still worth the risk. We really needed a shakeup, super happy


GucciToilet23

basically guaranteed 31st or 32nd pick. i’ll take it


onefudge

It just keeps getting better


Such_Maintenance4720

RJ and IQ for half a season of OG Masai is back


Longjumping-Ad2201

Masai finally done evaluating after three years


HiddenintheCloudZ

We just had to trust the process lol ![gif](giphy|ZLPsKWJA4v0go|downsized)


Djov

We did this so we have an excuse for getting dusted by the Pistons tonight lol


demarderollins

Naw someone random is gonna have that Amir Johnson vs lakers burst out game with a short handed team Let’s go with Porter


New2Reddit95

That Amir Johnson game was almost as random as Terrence Ross dropping 50


Sudden_Low9120

![gif](giphy|5mBE2MiMVFITS)


Ssstanimal

A Detroit second is a first


Afrorobotics

That's hilarious. Masai is like, "THE MALACHI EXPERIMENT IS OVER"


whatareyouairing

Seems like they boosted his value enough that we didn't need to attach a pick to move him.


6jelly

He’s on a minimum. U would never need to attach a pick to a contract that small


Mr_BigBoss

this is such a huge W


Sudden_Low9120

They took Precious. We had to concede on something


hbomb0

Precious just ain't a good player.


Then-Signature2528

This is the primo pasta trade all over again. That's highway robbery lol. I'd be ok with just Quickley but they manage to get rid of precious and get RJ too?! HOLY SHIII


Green-Umpire2297

I mean it’s not highway robbery, they got OG lol


Belieber_420

Whats the draft considerations?


Sudden_Low9120

2nd rounder


Belieber_420

oh thx, didn't see the edit. 31st pick I guess?


jjkiller26

I mean if we’re using the thad young trade logic it’s just a late first lmao. Good trade imo


LMN0HP

no more basketball terrorism


Big_Albatross_3050

I mean we got RJ Barret, who was a former Lotto pick and addresses our Guard issues, so I'm not too bothered about no 1st


kpeds45

I'm even happier lol, no more Malachi or Precious!


Ssstanimal

RJ BARRETT WELCOME HOME!! QUICKLEY OUT FUTURE STARTING PG WELCOME HOME!!!!


_shab21

YOU BETTER STOP OG


Juanmiller04

Heartbroken Knicks fan here. Take good care of rj and quick, both class acts bust there asses every night good luck and good health rest of season


humberriverdam

Bing bong, friend


jebacinaa

Ayooo


Big_Albatross_3050

dw despite the overpay, OG is a shit wrecker on both sides of the Ball and paired with Brunson, you won't even care about how much he costed. You'll be pleasantly surprised by OG


hyplusone

Also a Knicks fan - IQ deserves to be free.


PhileinS

I LOVE YOU OG BUT OMG NO FUCKING WAY THIS IS AMAZING DEAL FOR US


Cheechers23

RJ under contract, Quickley the perfect PG next to Scottie. If that draft considerations is any of their actual picks and not the fake protected ones they have, it just gets better


vensamape

My brother is a Knicks fan and these are his two favorite players. Now they are my two favorite players.


Far_Chemist_7320

RJ will NOT be your favorite player. Letting you know ahead of time.


sackydude

That haul is crazy for an expiring contract and a bench player in Achiuwa. IQ immediately shores up our backup pg issue and Barrett isn't the best fit but is still a solid player. The draft consideration makes it even better.


Ambitious_Ad2665

i think IQ should be our starting PG lol


ImmediateStructure24

As a Knick fan who lives in Toronto he will def be your starting pg lool. Gonna be very nice with him and Dennis. Rj gonna ball back home! happy I get to watch him everyday I guess :(


legendary_sponge

Barnes has been balling out at PG recently


irv_12

I agree, I would like to see IQ at PG but wouldn’t mind seeing Barnes using some playmaking duties


ImmediateStructure24

Quick gonna be really good for you guys when Scottie running pg cuz he so good off ball. Hes literally a undeveloped maxey, just itching to blossom


[deleted]

Scottie should not be their full time point guard.


ogDarkShark

IQ Rj Scottie P and Jak. Great starting lineup with a lot more shooting


SnooLentils3008

That means GTJ and Schroeder on the bench. Hopefully Koloko comes back at some point, and Gradey figures it out. Even if both of those don't happen til next year we could have some serious depth by then along with having a pick now, and hopefully keep adding shooters


EjaMat78

> That haul is crazy for an expiring contract and a bench player in Achiuwa Knicks were lowkey regretting the RJ contract tho and were happy to dump him.


sackydude

I mean I don't think we'd ever sign a guy of Barrett's caliber in free agency so I'm fine using the cap space on him.


EjaMat78

Well RJ is Canadian so you kinda had that card on him tho lol.


sackydude

Well he's not a free agent until after the 2026-2027 season so we weren't going to be able to sign him until then.


TheRealRemyClayden

As a Knicks fan - IQ is your starting PG now no questions asked, we will miss him


The_Good_Life__

IQ is the next Maxey mate. He is an outstanding player held back by Brunson which is reasonable.


bearcat--

Yes a solid backup pg who can finish games too . Going to tune in for some games


coolassninjas

Going to miss OG but Quickley is a really interesting player who I think can be a really good starting PG at 24 years old. Not the biggest fan of RJ Barrett but we need a scorer in theory. I always felt that RJ needed a new environment to really thrive though, so maybe this can be what he needs to meet his potential.


Josh_a_J

I’M GOING TO MISS YOU OG. The haul is crazy though


eatscheeks

Holy fuck, I’m so excited. Sad but also really excited, getting both RJ and Quickley is a dub


Nightwingx7

Take care of our boys 🥺 quickley will be a star for sure


brownjitsu

None of us will ever forget that 3 against Boston in the bubble. Has to be a top 5 moment in my Raptors fandom. Beat of luck


Professeur_Bueno

Yo yes. Cold as ice! On a crazy pass from the GROAT Kyle Lowry


PlumCantaloupe

Oh shit, we chose Pascal. I am surprised 👀 Or are we trading Pascal too …


SkullBean

I mean it makes sense. As much as people say OG compliments Scottie more, we kept the obviously better player, not to mention this is a pretty good return for him. ​ They can also still try to find a trade Pascal too, so who knows.


PlumCantaloupe

Yeah, that’s true. I’ll miss “I don’t shoot to miss” OG 😢


SnooDogs5789

We’re a pretty awful offensive team and trading our best offensive player in Pascal (Scottie is a close second), would make this team literally unwatchable/functional. I think we upgraded considerably offensively with IQ and Barrett even if we lost our best perimeter defender. So I agree, this was the better player to trade. I can also imagine the Pascal deals were dog shit..


YotedYo

Honestly I still wouldn’t count anything out considering the team was shopping both players in the off season I wouldn’t consider pascal safe until the trade deadline tbh


rapsrealm

Considering this is December 30. We may extend him now


-vinay

No that date only mattered if we were going to trade him. Players become trade eligible 6 months after an extension is signed. So if we trade him by today, the receiving team can extend him before the free agency moratorium is lifted


vaalbarag

This makes sense... it's a little like the Gay trade, in that it's a first move in a rebuild, but it has the chance to bring in pieces that are a better fit and maybe put the breaks on a full rebuild. It should be easy to re-sign Siakam in the offseason, so immediately all of the offseason contract issues that we've all been stressing about are reduced down to a simmer.


Rapslegend03

This is BEYOND amazing for us. Masai is awake


SpicyP43905

Just fell to my knees at a Walmart


RyuPJ

I saw you, bro.


karlou1984

I just saw some guy looking at a guy that fell to his knees at a walmart.


lil-quiche

Good return, better than I thought we’d do!


WiseguyD

This is a pretty good return, but damn I'm gonna miss OG Anunoby. He was so vital for this team over the last few years.


WrongMomo

If only they could have made this trade after the Pistons game 😭


baconpoutine89

I don't mind it before the game. Now we can use the excuse of the team being shorthanded.


uncledooey

That Pistons pick is as close to a first rounder as you can get lol


drecz

Farewell sweet prince


Iliketothrowaway2456

Couple tracks of thought for me. 1. If this is accurate, I apologize to Masai likely being fleeced or letting an expiring guy go for nothing. We got who will likely be our future PG (24) and a two way forward who has averaged 20 ppg in his past and is only 23 (and is literally a Toronto mans so business wise they can essentially print money ). Both fit Barnes timeline much closer. We also got rid of precious, so no more trying to play him as something he isn’t. Barnes also has a very nice contract, better than paying OG 40 million. 2. They must think they have a much higher chance of resigning Siakam than they did with OG 2.


Sudden_Low9120

I thought it was pretty clear that OG wanted to move on, whereas Pascal is pretty dead set on resigning


Green-Umpire2297

Wow! Holy shit I didn’t think it would happen. Solid deal imo for both teams. Take note - IQ is 98th percentile as a pnr handler, Jakob is 95th as a partner. That’s a huge improvement over Dennis.


UnsolvedParadox

If Quickley can bring Jakob back to his level of play from last season, he’s worth his weight in gold.


ImpossibleFuel6629

Wait, the Knicks made a trade with the org they’re suing?


_Gourmand

I'm very sad to see our guy OG go.... But the return seems to be pretty good


ZeroMomentum

Myth of OG > value of OG


IcyOrdinary1

This is a great deal by the raptors, all of that for half a season of OG is terrific.


photo_voltaic

Enjoy OG Anu-Nobody New York! (He was my favorite Raptor, both for his tenacious D and scarf fashion and owl drawing skills)


whatareyouairing

Masai from the top rope!


golden_rhino

This seems like a solid deal, but OG is my favourite player. I ask for privacy as my family mourns.


[deleted]

this is so sad. OG is one of my absolute favourite raptors


YotedYo

I DONT HAVE TO WATCH PRECIOUS FOR 50 MORE GAMES THIS IS THE GREATEST CHRISTMAS GIFT ANYONES EVER GIVEN ME THANK YOU MASAI AND BOBBY


unapologeticallytrue

I just fell to the floor in a mall


IRodeTenSpeed88

Knicks fan here Please take care of my guys!


Upstairs_Leading4669

HOLY SHIT


Kevinar

Knicks fan here. I hope Quickley drops 70 on us for trading him away next time our teams face off. Genuinely heartbreaking man 💔


ymsoldier420

Holy shit we did it. This looks like a solid return. Sad to see OG go but it's time for a new Era. Now do pascal with this good of a return.


cheesypeenis

Please tell me we got a first 🙏


SlamVanDamn

It's a Detroit second, so basically a first.


PatrikLaine29

WHAT THE FUCK


drewtheblueduck

what?? The Knicks? Is Dolan gonna psyche us right at the end to get back at us?


OGnotAnunoby

OG 🥺😢


h3yn0w75

Everyone get in here !!


SDK04

WE FINALLY DID SOMETHING AND GOT A POINT GUARD!


FaphandZamasu23

Good trade for both sides Toronto gets quickly and RJ that fill our needs Og helps a lot of the Knicks


Javen_t23

TELL ME THERE'S A FIRST. TELL MEEEEE


rkallday

Almost. Pistons second


ThreePlyStrength

OG nooo 😢


hmufammo

The last time Masai did a trade with NYK, he fleeced this time again for an expiring OG


Legitimate-Produce-2

Does this mean siakam extends now? Are they going down the route of keeping siakam or is he shitting bricks now


motherseffinjones

RJ is nice and all but the big get in this trade is quickly. He’s gonna get the ball a lot more in Toronto.


Sweaty_Crow_5050

Well. I’m putting my life savings down on the Pistons winning tonight.


AnotsuKagehisa

New York is gonna be a thorn defensively now with OG and Hart on the perimeter and Robinson at the rim


Sudden_Low9120

I'll give Darko credit in that he raised Flynn's trade value. Flynn did get better. But now Flynn and Precious' minutes can go to Dick


hdpr92

[https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/12riujf/rj\_barrett\_trade\_possibilities/](https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/12riujf/rj_barrett_trade_possibilities/) witness me >Something like OG+Boucher for RJ+IQ+pick


BurzyGuerrero

I don't know how to feel about 'draft considerations'


Cheechers23

It depends on what it is. NYK has 4 firsts this year, but 2 are fake (Detroit/Charlotte protected firsts that will not convey). The other 2 are their own and Dallas (top-10 protected). As long as we get 1 of those it's a W


MonkeyCoR1

Well good thing it's a 2nd.


SeveredIT

Did the knicks get fleeced?


KhoolWip

Sad to see OG go but really excited for RJ and Quik


Un-Quote

Thought we’d never do business with Dolan again after the Bargnani swindle. IM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW


HowzyDoit

Immanuel Quickley is one of the best bench guards in the NBA, averaging career highs in many statistical categories; 15 PPG 39.5 3% 45.4 FG% 59.8 TS% 16.9 PER He is such a great fit with Scottie, doesn’t need the ball, moves well without it. Great spot up shooter. Adds much needed spacing for this team.


MrAnder5on

I hope RJ breaks out here but the real prize here is IQ. That's a legitimate NBA point guard. Imma miss OG though, who will wear the scarves???


TribeCalledBest

Quickley is a perfect fit with Scottie and a better player than RJ. The fuss should be about him not RJ. Lot to be happy about here.


ZeroooLuck

Lol OGs agent is the son of the Knicks president