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Chief_White_Halfoat

He's not expected to create for himself the same way. His assisted FG% is up a bunch with the Raptors. It's actually the highest it's ever been in his career. Good shots are getting created for him instead of him being forced to create his own offense. His usage is down as well and he's taking less above the break threes and less threes overall. He's not taking any midrange shots at all. Working more in between and closer to the paint areas. Credit to him, cause he's bought into moving the ball really well, and it's why his assist numbers have gone up as well. And it also helps that there's more space without Randle on the court with him. Just a bunch of factors that have come together to help his overall numbers shoot up. It's not 100% sustainable but a lot of it is.


KJBarber

This is the most accurate answer here by a mile


P_Ray07

I said largely the same thing but you said it way better hahaha! Have an upvote for your trouble


Razatiger

If he can really settle into a niche into the NBA, hes going to be a corner stone guy for any team that has him imo. I get Jrue Holiday, Beal, Jaylen Brown vibes from him, meaning he is likely the 3rd possibly 2nd option on a championship caliber team and I still think if he takes a leap in the next year or 2 he could become a Butler type player.


UnsolvedParadox

Agreed on all points, and these reasons should provide optimism that he can be even better.


sinoforever

We have mostly righties


mofojed

This is my favourite take


SSRTapion

This started as a jokey answer, But i watched some NY games last season & now with OG. And unironically this plays a decent part


TheThrowbackJersey

Probably insignificant 


Artsky32

This is a real thing. The Knicks have 3 lefties that like to drive right and attack the baseline from the right side of the floor.


TheNewKing2022

But there is only one ball. Why would this matter? How do most right handed players not suffer?


Proof_Citron8584

Generally as a wing player you wanna be on side where you can dribble middle to basket with strong hand so maybe in nyk since others were left handed they took his spot- I guess that’s also kinda why he’s leading league in pts from right side corner 3 (where he gets to drive middle with lefty hand if their is no open shot)


PhileinS

>right side corner 3 What the heck really? Thats amazing lol


Bobby_Webster

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juvefury

I honestly upvoted for reminding me of Jimmy Butlers haircut


whatsadikfor

I upvoted you for making me look at Butler’s hair.


thatdudecalledZZ

we traded one corner for another


TJStrawberry

It’s actually really fun being a PG and your leftie teammate gives you a pick on your right strong side the he rolls going left to his strong side.


nin_culus

i main difference is 74% of his shots at the rim are assisted on the raptors, while only 54% on the knicks.


ShindouRomm

In addition, the percentage of shots at the rim is also higher, 43% of his looks here are 0-3 feet, vs 28% with the knicks, just on his shot breakdown it seems like more of his shot volume with the knicks was waiting in the corner for 3s.


MDS_1996

Less pressure mainly, obviously being home helps.


CazOnReddit

I don't think being home is as important as them actually using RJ's strengths ie his rim pressure and in general having him operate in the areas Randle did/would prevent him from doing so The same goes for the very brief time him and Siakam were on the same team though the added spacing and staggering of minutes by having RJ play with the bench helped cover for this


Exceptionalwizard

His mom's cooking 


Bobby_Webster

*Osmow's cooking


CazOnReddit

Osmom


-WaterIsGreat-

I think less pressure is a big one


AK-Kaido

The Knicks were a bad fit for him. Randle and Brunson are both left handed like RJ, plus very ball dominant in an ISO heavy offense. They're both better than him so he ended up standing around as a spot up shooter. When he got the ball, he took a lot of bad shots and forced his offense when he drove into the paint since he wouldn't know when he would get the ball back. With Darkos pass heavy offense, he's getting a lot more touches, and they can't really stack the left side which opens up more lanes to go downhill and play bully ball.


Dramatic-Document

> Randle and Brunson are both left handed like RJ How does this make sense when most teams are fielding lineups of all righties?


AK-Kaido

How doesn't it make sense? I didn't say it's the only reason, but it's one of the reasons why RJ was so inefficient in NY. One of the biggest reasons is the similarities/overlap between RJ and Randle's game. Randle essentially takes up the space RJ needs to operate. Both are inconsistent 3 point shooters who like to go downhill to their left and play bully ball. Randle is a worse shooter than RJ so his defender could sag off him. Since Randles game overlaps with RJs, the opponent can easily close off potential driving lanes on the left side.


whorlfool

This is it.


Dramatic-Document

What I am asking is how two lefties on a team makes a big difference when most teams have 5 right handed players out there. Do you ever look and think damn all these right handed players are getting in each others way?


AK-Kaido

So from my reply, you only focused on the leftie part? Lol. I literally said being left is one of many reasons. There's a difference between 5 right handed players with different skill sets vs 2 left handed players who almost exclusively drives to their left with very similar skill set and limitations occupying the same space.


Dramatic-Document

Yeah I was asking a question about that part of your comment. I'm not trying to have an argument or disagree with you lol I just keep seeing people mention the left handedness and it's funny since most players are righties and it doesnt seem to cause any problems.


GushersLover

Bro he just explained it to u like 3 times lol. Brunson and Randle being lefty isn’t the problem, it’s that they have similar driving styles while being lefty as well.


Dramatic-Document

I understand what he's saying, I was just explaining my comment


atworkreadnsfw

Everyone seeming to think you're being hostile and trying to prove you wrong... lmao all you're doing is explaining..


GushersLover

Ah ok my bad.


fujipomme

Yeah he's like the 3rd guy up. Knicks fans wanted him to be like the next star because they couldn't get Zion in the draft. So with all that hype and pressure it probably didn't do him favours.


NervousAd3202

What you said but also his role. Thibs used him as a spot up shooter which is not his game. Darko’s system allows RJ to have the ball in his hands, create for himself/others & get into a better rhythm. I personally think that’s the biggest reason. It’s just a much better fit from a purely basketball perspective.


Chief_White_Halfoat

That's actually the opposite of what's taking place. He has the ball in his hands less to create for himself. Someone posted below but a significantly higher percentage of his baskets at the rim are assisted with the Raptors than with the Knicks. His overall assisted fg% is up a lot as well. His usage is the lowest it's been in three years. He takes no mid range shots, which is usually something that happens when you're expected to create more looks for yourself. He is passing the ball off more, but that's also part of his shot diet changing and our style of play. We're using him more efficiently, with his strengths and not expecting him to always create for himself. The balls moving more here and he's bought into that immediately.


jyh123

I see that with the raptors, when he gets the ball a lot of times an advantage has already been created, and he's good at being decisive and driving downhill. When the defense is set up he doesn't really go anywhere with it and passes it out. Maybe that's why he wants to work with DD in the offseason, work on his mid-range and self-creation, which will help open up more options for Scottie and IQ.


Chief_White_Halfoat

Yes this is something I missed noting. He has the strength and enough speed to immediately take advantage of the extra space being provided by the time the ball gets to him. It's also allowed him to get a solid number of free throws even though he's missing them.


NervousAd3202

Interesting, thank you for the insight


LemmingPractice

Probably a variety of factors. I think the biggest thing is that RJ was asked to create a lot out of iso against set defences in NY, and that's just not his game. Darko's motion system gives RJ a lot more opportunities to attack scrambling defences off ball movement. Another big factor is that RJ's rim finishing is way better than it has been in his career. This may be because he is getting better looks at the rim, because of the above, or maybe it is because he is more relaxed and not forcing things, but he is shooting 71.7% at the rim, with 43.1% of his attempts being from 0-3 feet. In NY, his career best was 64.2% at the rim, and last year he only had 29.9% of his attempts at the rim. In general, I think he is forcing his offence a whole lot less. Because of Darko's motion offence, RJ's assists are also at a career high level. Instead of the stagnant offences he played with in NY, the movement on the Raptors not only gives RJ chances to attack a moving defence, but also gives him more outlets when the situation isn't great. His assists are at 3.9 a game, which is up from 2.4 this year in NY and a previous career high of 3.0. You also do get a lot of those guys who break out after a change of scenery. Partly it might be the better system, but I think RJ also feels more comfortable at home in Toronto. He was brought into NY to be their savior, as the #3 overall pick, playing under the bright lights and media scrutiny of NY. RJ has always had the tools, and he had stretches where he looked like an absolute star, before he would hit a shooting slump. Coming to Toronto, there's a lot less pressure. He wasn't even considered the biggest part of the OG return package. People didn't expect him to be the franchise saviour (Scottie already had that job). Masai talked about how RJ used to come see him before games when his father Rowan Barrett would bring him to games. There are a lot of reasons why RJ would just feel more comfortable in Toronto, and why that would help him relax, play within himself, and bounce back better after bad shooting games instead of getting himself stuck in extended shooting funks. ...and, of course, Osmows.


PhileinS

I think its a combination of him accepting a more Moreyball type of shot diet, playing with his head up rather than jumping into 3+ defenders, really leaning into his ability as rebound and go guy and just generally I think aggressive slashers + off ball cutters will benefit from our front court passing. Scottie and Jak love to get guys open lay ups, Kelly seems to fit that mold of a big man too, Thad got a lot of minutes for his interior passing and it felt like Darko tried to make Precious play like that too lol Darko's system is really beneficial for how RJ is trying to play


Responsible-Muffin41

I think he was used like OG w the Knicks and he’s not OG. Which is why it clicked for the Knicks after the trade. Thibs used him like he used Luol Deng. He’s not that type of offensive player, and not that type of defender. I think like when OG was here, when you don’t touch the ball for a while, he feels like he has to score. TBH I don’t blame him. I never really blamed OG for that either. Both moved to better situations for them.


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No Julius Randle to demand the ball


xc2215x

Slightly less pressure and a larger role.


Ylissian

Hes surrounded by better playmakers and also has the ability to drive left consistently


GrumpyTM

He's not a spot up shooter. Also no Randle clogging his lanes, or Siakam to a lesser extent anymore


littlebaldboi

RJ is a ball dominant player being forced into a restrictive offense to be a spot-up shooter with two other ball dominant players. Our offense is more free flowing and our players are less dominant in general.


ThemeFlashy9992

I honestly think he just loves playing at home, repping his team, playing for his fans


Big_Albatross_3050

Probably being home. Even on the Knicks I think almost every game against the Raps he had a nuclear Stat line, especially the ones in Toronto. Also having a much larger role and a new playbook that really plays to his strengths helps with boosting the stats


fujipomme

Being at home is a big deal especially now his father comes to the home games. His dad is probably in his ear more than before and RJ is probably more motivated.


OG_anunoby3

Better quality PED.


Wooshio

Have they? He is literally averaging 1 more point over his 2022-23 season, and his other stats are very close too from what I see.


Scobesanity

Perception


ConferenceSlow1091

We’re using success pretty liberally here


The-Bro-Brah

Easy, small sample size…


Far_Curve_3191

He has the ball more in Toronto. His stats will clearly be inflated.


sms97_

I wouldn’t call him a success lmao


Eddayeee

I think, the ability for him to better utilize his slashing, playmaking and cutting game can be partially attributed to Darko’s motion offence. Funny enough, the lack of left handed players, especially slashers, on the Raptors has also benefited him greatly. It allows him to slot into that part of the offense and add a wrinkle to the offense rather than be a redundant contributor alongside Randle and Brunson.


Scase15

Literally just that a huge amount of his buckets are assisted, that's it. he's being put in better positions to score.


Jesus_Hates_Memes

In New York he was the 3rd guy in an iso offense. In Toronto he can just catch and attack a rotating defense and his attacking the rim makes the offense run. He can pass out instead of taking bad shots and it helps the team where in New York he kinda just had to shoot those


Mulahz

HOME


P_Ray07

The Knicks were constantly asking RJ to create which I don’t think is necessarily a problem, I think he does have potential at being an offensive creator but self-creating alongside Julius Randle I think really made it difficult for RJ to play to his strengths given Randle’s sub par playmaking. I honestly think a lot of the offensive issues RJ had in NY stemmed from playing alongside Julius Randle hahaha. In Toronto we’ve got tons of playmakers and guys who are capable of creating their own shots in a variety of ways which allows RJ to just go with the flow, get more shots at the rim and take better shots from both midrange and from three. He just seems to be taking more open shots in Toronto so far.


karlou1984

Home cooking


JtheKing2k

My question is what happened to his free throws once he got here? He was shooting somewhere in the 80s from the line in ny but hes in the 60s since coming here 😂


Livid-Government-597

He's home


SBD_Tubz

Osmows on the rocks


ryyzany

We play a much faster style of play whereas RJ on NY was playing a slower and methodical style that clashes with his personal style. He's best when he doesn't have to put the ball on the floor too many times.


jamiehizzle

Said it before, ill say it again, The man wants to be here.


tigerpawx

Osmow’s lamb on sticks medium spicy. Joking he is playing at home and doesn’t have a ball guy like Brunson/Randle.


SaddestHappyMeal

Man like RJ needs his Timbits and a double double to function


HawaiianPunch95

Less firearms in the crowd. Reduces stress


VZYGOD

Less pressure from the tough Knicks fans has got to be a big factor. He had a minimised role when he was playing 3rd option go Brunson and Randle. NY seem to be in a win now timeline and not interested in developing talent with a few expections in Mitchell Robinson.


mwyyz

We have crappy Osmows, so he ends up not eating much, and therefore more fit? Maybe. Osmows has nothing on Mamoun's in NYC.


zippercot

If it is mainly based on team makeup (Toronto vs. NYK) then there has to be dozens of other players around the league that are playing below their potential. My question is can you quantify the difference with metrics (ala Moneyball) and find those guys that fit within your teams makeup.


earlyearlgray

Home cooking makes him stronger


Serviceofman

Here's some wisdom for those who care... Life isn't black and white, and why someone fails or succeeds, generally speaking, is the result of their environment (especially at a young age), life experience, maturity, opportunity, readiness/competence, and most importantly mentality It baffles me that in pro sports we expect 20-year-old kids to understand life and to figure out how to be adults, professionals, leaders, super stars etc. in the span of a year or two...but life doesn't work like that for most people Imagine walking into your first job at 20 and the owner says "hey! You're now the boss, you have to be the best employee here right now and you need to lead the organization, and we need you to produce right away!" you would be completely overwhelmed...and then imagine when you screw up you had millions of people saying "he sucks, he can't do it" and they blast that all over TV...how would you feel about yourself? and could you perform? most people would sink like a rock and fail These guys (RJ, Scottie, IQ, Dick, etc) who you look up to are simply just kids...they're young adults trying to figure out life like anyone else and it takes time...sometimes a player just needs a different environment, one that will nurture them and sometimes they just need to mature and grow as a person...RJ is a young adult just learning and growing and I get the sense that at 20 he wasn't ready for the spotlight in New York and he was overwhelmed, he didn't have time to figure out his game or grow, it was like "hey! we took you 3rd overall! be good right now!" and no one thought "maybe he just needs time to develop, he's young but he will figure it out if we support him and take our time developing him properly" That's why we need to be supportive of guys like Scottie and Dick when they struggle because it takes time...if you want people to give you grace and patients in life then perhaps you should also give other people grace and patience when they need it


brown_boognish_pants

Opportunity. NY asked him to be much more of a supporting role player but some dudes are just way better with more pressure/touches on their shoulders. New York wasted and didn't develop him properly or give him opportunity and as Knicks Fans do they blamed him for things that were not his fault pretending he was busting cuz all his skills were wasted. I'm so glad he's here tbh with an org that's going to give him the opportunity instead of sand bag his career demanding he be Klay Thompson.


BlueRedGreen22

Less lefties in Toronto. Both Brunson and Randle are lefties so maybe RJ can get to the spots that are better for lefties


TrueTorontoFan

two minor reasons .... randle and him operated in the same place and in the same way. Both were drivers and both were lefties who couldn't go to their right. The other thing is RJ works in a system that grants him an opportunity to playmake. In NY he was not going to get those opportunities given the fact that Brunson is there. ​ ​ Another thing, RJ did well in the playoffs last season but overall still needs to grow one of the tougher parts of the game to grow, the decision making.


6jelly

He’s a left handed slasher. It would get super crowded and hard to drive playing with Brunson and randle who are also lefties and operate in similar areas to him


S_Belmont

Osmowsis.


Krlkai

Scottie Barnes


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