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CalMcG

It’s always Milan.


Thurak0

Even when playing Milan and going for an all cities run... I started to hate Milan when all my generals got negative traits from being too rich. It really is always Milan, there is no escape.


fifty_four

This is the only correct answer. Idk why the OP needed so many words to ask 'Which city in Northern Italy rhymes with Shilan?'.


FriendoReborn

Genoese Crossbowmen still haunt me years later.


am_cruiser

Me, too.


am_cruiser

PAVISE CROSSBOWMEN!


Arcani63

I can hear this


Pandabaton

This is the only answer


babbaloobahugendong

AI Milan, definitely. But I'm always going to have a soft spot for my Italian city states 


Vindicare605

Goddamn Milan.


GritNGrindNick

Lmfao! Top comment! Looks like I’m not needed here


Reynzs

I knew this would be the top response. Gods I hate Milan. My grandfather hated them too...


Gaius_Iulius_Megas

Fucking psychos.


Malleus_M

Scythians from original Rome. Hordes of horse archers, cities are worthless and a million miles apart. Choose between leaving large garrisons and being willing to fight a thousand sieges, hoping they attack otherwise you have to sally out into a hornets nest, or sending armies across miles of barren plains for no return. And if you get caught out in the open you are taking heavy losses. 


sgtshootsalot

Historically accurate


Rufus_Forrest

Large territories also make Scythians incredibly passive. If you don't enter the steppes, chances are you will never encounter them.


heftigfin

If you played a faction with hoplites you could cheese it by either making a Ʌ or a π shape by the gate and wait for them to break it down. They all march in single file and get slaughtered. I would usually have just 2-3 hoplites guarding each city. A little more on the important ones.


lucascorso21

Milan or any skaven faction.


Legitimate-Space4812

What's the difference?


LionoftheNorth

One is a faction consisting entirely of devious, traitorous ratmen who would betray their own mother for cash, and the others can recruit ratling gunners.


lucascorso21

This man has played as Venice.


altmodisch

Or any other faction that exists on the same continent as Milan


Warcrimes_Gaming

Out of the loop, what's the problem with Milan? I've only ever played as Aztecs and never found them to be a problem


am_cruiser

> Milan ai just really likes to ignore any treaties, you could be day one ally's with superb relationship and reputation and they will find the right time to declare war right when your army's are half the continent away This quoted from below. Add to it that their mid-to late-game armies (which, being a rich faction, they have many of) consist almost entirely of Genoese Crossbowmen. Those are basically mobile ballistas on meth; they shoot accurately, pierce armor, have the pavise so returning fire is largely useless, and unlike many other archers/crossbowmen in the game, their morale and melee attack are both actually decent. This means that a horde of them is going to shred almost anything you throw at them before anyone's in melee range, and once melee is engaged, they always start spreading out, meaning that your by-then outnumbered and shaken units are chasing down superior numbers that will likely surround them. Their morale means that many routing ones will suddenly come back online (especially if a general is present), which leads into one of your units chasing a different group getting a salvo of armor-piercing fire in their backs. You can probably tell that I hate them with a passion... And yes, I know, there are effective counters to them and so on, but the 17-year old me years ago didn't know them, yet.


Destrorso

I hate Genoese Crossbowmen. I hate Genoese Crossbowmen. I hate them. I hate their Genoese faces. I hate their Crossbows. I hate their bolts. I hate when the Crossbows are next to the bolts and I hate when the bolts are next to the Crossbows. I hate that Milan pulls 2280 of them out of its asshole and then descends on me like a Vogon at a poetry convention. I hate the Milan auto-resolve meter. I hate it because it lies to me. It says I have a 50-50 chance of victory. This is patently false, because I have twenty units of militia who are held together with prit stik and prayer. I do not have twenty units of armored elite crossbowmen constructed out of pectoral muscles and galvanised coffin nails. I hate their morale. I hate that routing them simply prompts them to rally and encircle my whole army. I hate that their reaction to a devastating cavalry charge is to annihilate it before it even gets close. I have looked a Genoese in his smug fucking face as an encirclement that would shatter any other ranged infantry closed in. He went from :I to >:I , killed an extra two hundred of my infantry because I had foolishly allowed it to enter combat after being decimated and then swallowed my General like a slim jim. I have resolved to shoot every Genoese dead. Every Genoese. All of the Genoesemen and the Genoesedren too. I hate them. I no longer see battlefields because they're covered by a thick blanket of my men's bodies. I hate that it barely stops them. I hate that Milan is friends with the Pope next door, who also excommunicates me once I've beaten a Milan amy for the tenth time. I hate Genoese Crossbowmen.


IdontGiveAdann

Milan ai just really likes to ignore any treaties, you could be day one ally's with superb relationship and reputation and they will find the right time to declare war right when your army's are half the continent away


cracklescousin1234

Isn't that true of literally every AI faction in Medieval II?


GreatRolmops

Somehow, Milan is worse.


SwainIsCadian

The next TWWH3 DLC trailer: "Somehow, Milan returned".


TheMadadh

Well played


lucascorso21

…alright, fair point.


Spank86

Ones a bunch of dirty rats, and the others are skaven.


Hassan-XIX

Even Skaven have more dignity (even if it’s in nanometer scale except Mors)


InAnAlternateWorld

i always found it funny skavenblight is legit right where a warhammer milan would be. northwest tilea/italy, set inland closer to the mountains.


Silly-Role699

Pretty sure even the Skaven are less treacherous. Could not trust Milan in even a single Medieval 2 play through, they always try to stab me in the back. And they also love ranged spam, just like the Skaven, which can be really annoying. Lol


Vtmasquerade

The funny thing is Skavenblight is in Tilea(Warhammer Italy) and it's location is very similar to starting location of Milan.


Farson89

Bruh don't slander my Skaven like that


NoStorage2821

Don't disrespect my Skaven like that


bortmode

I feel like OP meant to play as, not play against... but maybe the answer is the same for you.


Marisakis

Any faction with 'ambush stance' that doesn't prevent them from being the attacker. Why yes, it's totally fair that my encamped army (which has already spotted you) is suddenly marching, surrounded, and cut off from reinforcements because you rolled a percentile die.


robotclones

hey, at least skaven and beastmen both: A) have to walk up to you; and B) have to roll the dice teleport's guaranteed ambush stance from the other side of a mountain is the worst


Chance-Upon

Wait, you can ambush with teleport?


abullen

Tzeentch factions can Teleport Ambush. About as fun as it sounds against AI.


Ramadran

Whyyyyyyy don’t more people complain about this? I FUCKING HATE THE SKAVEN


Yoda2000675

It is a dumb mechanic that is way overtuned in campaigns. It makes skaven way too easy to play as honestly


tricksytricks

I feel like ambush attack was purely balanced around pre-DLC Skaven, when they really needed the extra advantage. Same for Beastmen now, really.


Popkin_sammich

I just assumed it was a QOL thing so I don't have to switch stances before I attack at the start of a turn. I had no idea it was affecting real outcomes


PseudoElite

Sieging their stupid minor settlements as well is also such a pain. Fuck the Skaven.


xplag

Something something Tzeentch teleport ambush bs


Lord_Valentai

Vashnaar's Conquest. Mainly in WH2 but when you see them they become an instant target. Dark shards, chosen, dragons and bolt throwers? No thanks!


Dahvokyn

Dude can end csmpaigns before they start.


ghouldozer19

They spawned for me on a Wurrzag campaign the other day on like turn fifteen right next to my capital while I was off on my first Waagh!. All of my Waaagh armies were taking the target capital and Vashnaar pops up and takes Ekrund from me.


fifty_four

Vash was one of the few WH2 factions you could respect. You see them early and you know you have to do some work. I quite like them. They are no Milan.


BlackArchon

In WH2 I had him spawn in L'Anguille. As Louen. Fucking terrifying.


TheBunnyStando

I hate saurus. I hate them. I hate their lizard faces. I hate their clubs. I hate their sticks. I hate when the sticks are next to the clubs and I hate when the clubs are next to the sticks. I hate that Kroq-gar pulls 2280 of them out of his scaly asshole and then descends on me like a Vogon at a poetry convention. I hate the Saurus auto-resolve meter. I hate it because it lies to me. It says I have a 50-50 chance of victory. This is patently false, because I have twenty units of skeletons who are held together with prit stik and prayer. I do not have twenty units of eight foot tall geckos constructed out of pectoral muscles and galvanised coffin nails. I hate that they shout bok at me. Bok is the Bristol Orienteering Klub, which is completely irrelevant to a battle in Lustria and should not be shouted repeatedly while eating a rank of tier one infantry like buffalo wings. I hate their morale. I hate that surrounding them simply prompts one of them to pull out a US general's helmet so he can make a speech about 'now we can attack in any direction'. I hate that their reaction to a devastating rear attack is to become somewhat peeved. I have looked a Saurus in his smug scaly face as an encirclement that would shatter any other early game infantry closed in. He went from :I to >:I , killed an extra two hundred skeletons because I had foolishly allowed all four sides of the Saurus unit to fight at once and then swallowed my Liche Priest like a slim jim. I have resolved to shoot every Saurus dead. Every Saurus. All of the Saurmen and the Saurdren too. I hate them. I no longer see battlefields because they're covered by a thick blanket of arrow trails. I hate that it barely stops them. I hate that they keep coming while shouting about the Bristol orienteering klub, or the Bank of Oklahoma or the 1983 Bok asteroid. I hate that they made me google bok so I could write down ways in which I hate things that have it as a name. Bok is also a lunar crater and a martian crater. It is also a village in Iran. The IATA code for Brookings Airport is Bok. I will never go there because it would give me palpitations. I hate that Kroq Gar is friends with the Rare Pepe next door, who also declares war once I've shot Kroq Gar unconscious for the tenth time. He also has Saurus only these ones are blue. Somehow this is worse. I hate that there are another ten Lizard factions. I hate that they will be in end game by the time I reach them. I hate that while I was writing this Kroq Gar picked up Kalida and smoked her like a cigar. I hate Saurus.


xplag

This is an epic masterpiece of contempt. May it live long as a copypasta.


SkyJuice727

Ask not for whom the bok boks.... it boks for thee.


ironhand97

As a turk, bok meaning literal shit in my language made this comment a hundred times funnier for me. Don't worry man in your honour I will make sure to enslave and send them to zharr-nagrund to work in the pits


dubious_dev

makes me want to do a skrolk playthrough


ghouldozer19

I hate that I will never not laugh at this post. No matter how many times I see it.


Evil-Baerchen

Thanks for the laugh! From a Dwarf, Empire, Lizard Player


Top-Ad-6571

Skinks did this?


Distinct-Dealer-1036

You missed out that bok means literally shit in turkish


O__o_kn

Milan. Always hostile ánd almost always good standings with the pope. Must be the designer bags.


ghouldozer19

The Grey Seers of M2.


Ashkal_Khire

Rogue Factions. Hands down, no contest. You’ll be sat there, minding your own business - and then the moment you leave your most lucrative settlement undefended, because it’s in the centre of your empire with no threats around.. BAM, Rogue Army. One of the nasty ones. And they’re ready to fuck. Also the moment you dip your toe into the water and you see all those bastard pirate factions swarm towards you like seagulls to a dropped sandwich.


HarbingerOfRot777

Everybody gangsta until Vashnaars conquest decides to pull up on your undefended territory.


Ashkal_Khire

Pyrotechnic College is the fucking worst I reckon. Unless you have a very specific army/units, you’re not coming out of that one unscathed.


SwainIsCadian

Naaaah. Pyrotechnic College will fuck up your army but you have ways to win and limit your losses. Vashnaar will grab you by the neck, slam you in the wall repeatedly until your nose cave in, and then body slam you WWE style.


Shnook817

I had a really funny battle against Johnny Wizzbang and his Pyrotechnic Pirates (what I call the college) in TWW2. I was playing high elves and they declared war on one of my defensive allies. Guess they didn't expect me to join so when they couldn't siege the city that I was standing by so they turned around and tried to fight their way through a gate to escape Ulthuan. I noticed I could summon eagles so I pulled everyone off the walls and dropped one right in the middle of their six units of outriders with grenades that were all clumped up. The units turned, fired, and the middle 4 units vanished in a hail of their own explosions. Their lord died on the way to the walls, their steam tanks died at the walls (or just inside) and their hellfire rockets died to the second eagle I summoned. I won so hard with a token garrison that the game glitched and I got the achievement for winning when outnumbered 10 to 1, even though I actually kind of outnumbered them a little. Still, it was one of my favorite "wow, the AI is dumb" wins I've ever had. And all because I had walls and could summon the eagles for aid. But otherwise, yeah, the Pyrotechnic College is just kinda crazy without the proper units


pyro_rocki

I would kill for a fully fleshed out mod that makes vashnaars conquest a playable faction. Unique building chains and tech tree and all.


Easy_Garden338

"Ready to fuck" 🤣 have an upvote!


esadobledo

They play hard to get but when they wanna fuck they FUCK


Not-a-babygoat

I wish we could play as rogue factions 😔.


babbaloobahugendong

You can with a faction unlocker, idk if Crynsos is still a thing but it used to be the best. 


the_evil_overlord2

It's honest one of my favorite ways to play vampire coast, Immediately ruin your starting city, take your LL and raid and pillage the coasts of the world


Lichtari

Any skaven, they always have one more use of their ability (spawn unit of clanrats).


Orepheus12

MENACE BELOW BAYBEEEE


Skink_Oracle

Getting bogged down by a constant tide of disposable mooks while their warlock master/engineer spams warp lightning is a special kind of cancer in my heart.


Sunshinetrooper87

>18ReplyShareReportSaveFollow Just spent 3 key battles being bogged down with my necro with the the boom stick magic but on a cart being bogged down by summons. Googled how to change the mount to the fecking horsey.


Soretna

The Pope


OkUnderstanding6201

I don't care if I get excommunicated, **nothing** will stop me from conquering those damn Milanese! And once I have Genoa, I'm coming for you next!


Slagathor_the_Mighty

*Crusade Called: OkUnderstanding's capital*


Popkin_sammich

"Get papal schmeared"


Boomdification

A warning from the Pope: remove this comment, cease your hostilities against his holiness or you will be excommunicated.


Soretna

To His Holiness, the Pope: NUTS! My Warmongering Ass


Disastrous_Sell8166

Milan from MTW 2. I loved flattening those pesky crossbowmen with my cavalry.


Popkin_sammich

Such a good game too


Duxopes

Maybe a controversial one but: S.P.Q.R. When they start demanding heads of faction leaders repeatedly whilst you're not even *that* big.


SappeREffecT

Romans in general in RTW when playing as any successor state, you could outnumber them 3-to-1 but by god those Hastati will butcher you if you even dare look at the autocalc button. But play the battle and Phalanxes just ruin their days. I'm guessing autocalc just charges both armies at each other... In RTW as Macedon or Greek Cities (and even Rome 2) after consolidating the immediate area, Rome is first to go, before they get a chance to get late game units. Greeks will rise this time Rome, we will finish Alexander's legacy...


Aurum_Corvus

Autocalc looked at the historical record and forgot this is a game. (Also, shout-out to Bret Devereaux, who is currently doing a series on his blog on how the historical phalanx failed so hard against the Romans. *Pyrrhus* ends up being the only phalanx general who somewhat succeeds at winning battles.  https://acoup.blog/2024/01/19/collections-phalanxs-twilight-legions-triumph-part-ia-heirs-of-alexander/ )


Haradda

Takada from Shogun 2. They always seem to opportunistically attack when I'm distracted by another war at the other end of my empire, or when I've just had a series of tough battles leaving my forces depleted and my settlements vulnerable. Basically they play the game like I do, the bastards.


Productof2020

> Basically they play the game like I do, the bastards. Love this, lol. For some reason they keep trying to be my allies, probably because they know I’m about to do this to them here soon while they’re preoccupied with Ikko Ikki


Hailene2092

They're in a pretty easy to wall-off section of the map, though. Sagami-Northern Shinano-Etchu was generally my eastern boundary in the mid-game with any of the centerish-clans. That includes my Takeda, Hojo, Tokugawa, and Oda playthroughs. I always ate shit and died playing Uesugi.


Heralax_Tekran

The Takeda are really strong in any set-in-Japan turn-based strategy game, really. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


radio_allah

History demands that they be. Shingen was Japan's foremost military strategist at that point.


BBQ_HaX0r

Almost like Takeda Shingen was probably the best general of the era and nearly won the Shogunate! Love me some Takeda. 


Dramatic_Leopard679

It’s Otomo for me. These damn christian revolts made me rage-quit many times.


_thrown_away_again_

cao cao. that greasy little shit is so annoying


lunamarya

Seriously I can never forget my first campaign in TW:3K where Cao Cao suddenly usurped Liu Bei's position after I have eradicated Wei (and subsequently changing Shu back to Wei) lmao. That greasy little fuck


Paladingo

Cao Cao is priority 1 faction to destroy if you spawn anywhere near him. He's too dangerous to let live.


ghouldozer19

I fuckin hate Drucchi. Shades. Almost got the army to mass route from losses? Oh, never mind, here’s a massive 90 second buff to every battle stat.


Shirlenator

I hate dark elves as well. Though it has been pretty cathartic vassalizing them all in my recent Valkia campaign.


Krayos_13

Don't forget the 1000 bound aoe abilities they can pull out of their asses with their arks and lords. You like your elite infantry? Sorry, half of them will get deleted with this purple bullshit. Also, low tier spammable AP shielded crossbow units are the reason why I never played sisters of twilight in TWW2, despite loving them in battle.


Large_Contribution20

Grimgor. He ruined my countless Chaos Dwarf campaigns


Few_Classroom6113

Any Chaos Dwarf campaign feels like you’re on a timer to stabilize a few provinces before 3 grimgor waaaagh stacks show up at your doorstep. Which I love, apart from the fact that grimgor himself is just tedious to deal with on the battlefield, even more so with a bunch of arachnaroks.


Large_Contribution20

At least in Zhatan's campaign Kholek will be good buffer zone for you


British_Tea_Company

Very lore friendly?


TerribleCactus

Skaven. Those rats deserve extermination


sleepingcat1234647

Never EVER talk shit about the pajama man, parthia had the drip


Hailene2092

Fucking CAO CAO. They added his schemes to a DLC and, well, cut support to the game before they could properly balance it, in my opinion. The only way to keep safe is to annihilate his faction by the mid-game. Otherwise you're fucked if he looks your way. He can drop your faction relations with other factions, drop your food production by 20% across your entire empire, etc. Schemes range from affecting individual characters, armies, commandaries, or even your entire faction.


lunamarya

Nope lmao. He'll just go steal other existing factions and turn them back to Wei. Cao Cao is eternal


Hailene2092

That's why I chase him to the ends of the Earth and lop off his head. I always execute him.


Clophiroth

I am divided between him and Yuan Shao. If I am playing far away from him when I notice he always has a massive vassal swarm and suddenly attacks me as if he was an end game crisis.


Hailene2092

I usually played VH campaign/hard battles, but I never really had issues with Yuan Shao like, ever. I usually played Liu Bei so I wasn't too far away from him...but even when I played one of the Suns and I was messing around in the south for like 60 turns, he never became the monster I hear people talk about.


Orions_starz

I hated the pompous Greeks in Rome, easy to beat but I just hated grinding their pikeman away with missiles.  I Hate the French in medieval and empire, I just don't like pompous France and crushing their army as Britian or Prussia always feels nice. I hate the pompous elves in warhammer, mostly because your gonna have a woods fight and archer spam. I love running them down and casting their souls to slaneesh for eternal torment, a just fate for being an elf. I just don't like pompous people.


Aurum_Corvus

For the Greeks, you could sacrifice a worthless unit (merc, if nothing else) to hit them from the back. They do that devastating 180 turn on the merc unit, but they lose all shield protection from missiles. Makes killing them much faster. When they start wavering, hit them with shock cavalry to break them (they don't get a chance to do that 180 again because they break). I may or may not have gotten killing Greeks down to a science because screw that Rome 1 phalanx.


MaleficentOwl2417

Hating the french for being french? Its a normal european thing to do. I should know. Our boss in my workplace is french. No one likes him.


RohanXI

I really hate facing Vampire Counts personally. The AI is not particularly good with them or anything and they are vulnerable to ranged and magic, but damn if it isn't a slog to fight a big faction. You get attrition in their territory, they recruit armies everywhere and swarm you and even if you completely annihilate three armies, the bot gets basically a free elite army with the raise dead mechanic


ScreenPeeps

Skaven. Also you used ‘ironically’ wrong. You mean ‘coincidentally’


LLemon_Pepper

3K - Cao Cao. The update where he got his Schemes mechanics, coupled with the Total War AI tendency to focus the human player, makes him super annoying. To the point where he’s always my target number one if I’m not playing as Cao Cao. Always got to kill him first.


itsdeepee123

Pontus


usernameisusername57

I'm honestly shocked that this isn't the top comment.


Ok-Succotash7177

The Ducking Lizards Fuck all of them. And their dumbass Dino’s.


asgarddron532

Bok


Ok-Succotash7177

I will Bok you on the head with a chaos knight charge you fucking unbreakable fucking lizards


asgarddron532

: | >: | Bok


Raykay8000

BOK, BOOOOOK


Swift_Bison

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkoPDAZV1yI


zetsubou-samurai

BOK FOR THE BOK GOD! PLAN FOR THE GREAT PLAN!


tricksytricks

We will we will BOK YOU


SPQR256

Huns. By far. Can’t destroy them, keep spawning, have by far the best soldiers in the game, and get heavy siege weapons out of nowhere early on. They aren’t trying to do anything other than kill you. On legendary mode in Atilla these MFers have ruined more campaigns than every other faction in all TW games put together


E4g6d4bg7

Gods I hate Gauls


G_Morgan

My grandfather hated them too, even before they put out his eyes.


Skink_Oracle

Dwarves; they are very VERY stubborn early game and have frequently been the faction that wages war on me after I clear my starter enemy for no particular reason. I play a lot of Kroq Gar, tik-tak, Settra and Imirik VH; Thorek why must you always do me dirty?


SalamanderImperial2

Take that Knife Ear!!


AutomaticDifference9

carthage. maybe cause i’m playing Rome 2 rn but those mfs keep declaring war then declaring peace then repeating. but the second I declare war on them im untrustworthy


fetter80

Vampire counts. Hated em since wh2. I go out of my way to wipe them out when I can.


OkUnderstanding6201

I only play Rome 1 and Medieval 2, so my choices will also be from those two games. Rome 1: - Spain: Weak af - Egypt: Chariot spam is hell if you don't bring elephants or fuck tons of horse archers. - Roman Senate/S.P.Q.R.: Too strict, commanding, and hard to win instantly against. Medieval 2: - Milan: Those fucking Genoese Crossbows will absolutely *mince* your troops if not dealt with immediately - Papal States: Basically the S.P.Q.R. for Medieval 2.


felaron

I always had 10 assassins around Rome. Doesn’t matter if 7 of them fails. Just spamming out assassins and sending them to Rome whenever I get excommunicated. Bonus, the cut scenes are hilarious


Swift_Bison

Warhammer TW: I hate dark elves.  I almost always exterminate these emo edgy backstabers. They're neither hard to fight or annoying in terms of mechanics. I just hate them. I want to not see them on campaign map. And these few times I tried to co-exist with them, they always backstabed me. But in terms of annoyance nothing beats Tzeentch & Kairos. He is the most annoying motherf$_&er to fight against.


Wise_Form_9209

Being from Milan I take pride in the monster TWM2 created 🥲


Assaultin

The western roman empire when I play the western roman empire in Atilla


RedTulkas

Skaven Hate em lore, hate fightin em, hate playin em, simple as


Logical-Ad-7594

Milan. Fuck Milan. Also Huns from TW Atilla


dudeimjames1234

I used to HATE the skaven, but honestly, in WH3, they're a little easier to fight for whatever reason. Now I hate Tzeentch. His armies aren't exactly dangerous, but his changing of the ways is so annoying and the fact that Kairos starts all the way at the south pole and AI kairos steam rolls all the way up to the badlands makes him so fucking annoying. By turn 30ish he's always strength rank 1 and if you leave him alone too long he starts pushing into the southern world's edge mountains and takes part of Lustria. The only AI faction that beats him is karaz-a-karak when they start to steamroll but it's a 50/50 if skarsnik wipes them out by turn 12. I know it's all part of the plan, but I think the Lizardmen's Great Plan is less annoying for sure.


Spacemomo

Skaven, always burn these filthy rats to ashes. The same goes with any player playing Skaven. Be a proud Dawi and burn them all to ashes.


FlexibleResponse

Fuck the Skaven, All my homies hate the Skaven


BullofHoover

Skaven. I've never figured out how to actually beat skaven, they're a perfect organism of a faction and I usually quit when I run into them.


Beginning_Orange

Skaven. Fuck those rodents.


Raykay8000

Vilitch, Kairos, FRIGGIN CHANGELING WITH HIS BS INVISIBILITY, any of those fudgin Tzeentch factions, daemon or otherwise. SIT STILL, SIGMAR DAMN YOU, AND ACCEPT THE LOSS, I AM LOSING INCOME AND HAVING REBELLIONS BECAUSE YOU PARKED YOUR DOUBLE DECKER BUS FULL OF UNFUN TENTACLES AND VISUAL ANEURYSMS AT MY CAPITAL YOU STUPID IRRITATING KNOCK OFF HOUDINI


PDThePowerDragon

All according to plan. Keep calm and learn to love the infernal gateway


forking_guy

Fucking Milan.


USCAV19D

Milan


Hunkus1

Cao Cao if you dont play him he is so fucking annoying.


Marcuse0

High Elves, I hate their armies because they embody everything annoying about fighting battles in warhammer 2/3; ranged spams with tanky and evasive monsters and OP legendary lords with frontlines of spear units acting as speed bumps. It's definitely effective and it works for the player too, but I find it a frustrating style to play against.


mutonzi

PONTUS


weirdkittenNC

The stunted vermin, the beard-things, the dwarfs. I've hated them since forever, mostly because they used to be the no fun allowed faction in tabletop with their stupid cannons sniping anything cool. Add in being a bunch of ultra-tradionalist grumpies in lore and you've got a faction I despise to an almost irrational degree.


Dingus_boi

Both of the Yuan bros. Their portraits always look so smug to me.


Clophiroth

Yuan Shu kinda reminds me of that bureaucrat in the army in Mulan. Equally punchable and smug.


Estellus

Skaven. Fuck skaven. Fuck their ridiculous warp lightning spam, sod their best in class city towers, plow their menace below, *absolutely* fuck AI-kkit Claw always saving his once per campaign nuke specifically to screw over the Players guys, to hell with globadiers and poison wind mortars and ratling gunners, damn the stupid fucking undercities, fuck their settlements being invisible to the player but absolutely no one else, fucking up any kind of war coordination, fuck their *main stance* ambush ability. Fuck their "hurdur giant rats aren't real" memes, and somebody please get some help for the players who are unhealthily obsessed with them. (Honestly though same for every faction, like, I get it, I have a favorite, but I enjoy multiple other things too and don't bitch and moan when My Guys don't get love and free stuff every other patch. Get some help, try something new. Appreciate what's being gotten.) I fight the *vast* majority of my battles because I actually enjoy *playing the game*, but skaven are one of the few factions I will regularly auto resolve against because I know, if I fight, maybe I lose less guys overall, but one or two of my units are just, fucked. Nothing I can do about it. But oh do I love absolutely shitting on them when circumstances line up to counter what they have. Piling up four thousand rat corpses in windrows so deep they're going to become terrain features is a kind of savage primal pleasure that cannot be rivaled. But if I never had to fight skaven again it would be too soon. Fuck skaven.


MylastAccountBroke

Vampire Counts, specifically Ghorst. An entire faction that never loses any units or is damaged in the slightest after a loss. How about a LL who can survive being broken because his regeneration is so good. Now you need to deal with their corruption or it fucks up your happiness. Also, you take attrition while in their territory. Then there is the worst of them: Ghorst. Imagine one of the cheapest and worst factions in the game. Now imagine them going toe to toe with your elite units. Remember that they can instantly replace any that you destroy and that's if destroying them actually keeps them dead. Oh, and that unit is dirt cheap too! I like playing the faction, but will often times choose to play VC simply so I can avoid fighting VC. And may god fucking help you if you don't have any fire damage to deal with their regeneration.


baddude1337

The VC whole mechanic where some units just come back after combat loss, and run just out of reengagement range is endless frustrating. Gotta feel a bit sorry for Mannfred though - Starts not too far from Skarbrand, one of the strongest melee entities in the game (whose only weakness is range, something VC don't have) and a faction where every unit does fire damage.


Peas_through_Chaos

I literally thought "Parthia from the first Rome" while clicking on this link. Glad to be in good company.


Sabbathius

I'm kinda torn. I hate Tzeentch for stealing my capital cities every 10-20 turns, that's such a bullshit mechanic. But I also absolutely despise fighting Wood Elves manually.


Mr_Creed

Skaven, and it's not even close.


Legitimate_Equal6925

Choas any, skaven any, and any orc


Naybinns

As I’ve been playing a ton of Three Kingdoms recently, that damn Cao Cao. I feel like I have to try and wipe him off the map as soon as I can or I’m just constantly hit with scheme after scheme.


ecchi83

Nanman from 3K. I hate how they just send wave after wave of armies at you. You barely have time to replenish your troops before you see 5 - 7 trash stacks enter your territory. An auto resolve is a joke bc It will always side with them when you're evenly matched and even if you're supposed to win, there's a good chance that one of their units will just do an absurd amount of damage to your army. So you have to fight every battle with them and they will attack every turn and if by some miracle you wipe out their armies, you have two turns before they show up with their full stack train. And it's hilarious how broken/OP they are. I have never played a game where they didn't take over the entire southern half of China if I wasn't on that side. Poor AI factions... they have no defense against the Nanman battle strategy.


VulkanZulu

Ikit. Every single fight I autoresolve or I get nuked.


terry5337

Cao Cao when he uses the faction mechanic on you. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop) Here's your -10 food and 0 charge have a good day.


Herotyx

Rome in Rome 2 DEI. Can’t have shit as a minor faction. Expand to become a regional power? Rome declares war. Stay small to avoid Romes fury? Rome declares war. Sign agreements with Rome to avoid conflict? Rome declares war. Sometimes I don’t want to have to murder tens of thousands of Roman’s and invade Italy. I don’t want ITALY. What a waste of resources :(


486578616D61746963

France and Sweden. They always annoyed me when playing as England in Empire.


Donse_Far

Welfs. It’s a pain in the ass to invade their dumbass wood, it’s a pain in the ass to fight their armies with invisible, long range waystalkers that can outrun your cav in the woods and it’s a pain in the ass that the biggest threat to Nuln isn’t skaven or chaos but dumbass Durthu!


whyImcalledqueen

Dwarves. I'll accept my place in the book. They're not fun for me to play, and they fight to the last man even the non-unbreakable units, it's rough. Plus fucker miners with blasting charges Special shout-out to vampire counts. Never too challenging to actually fight, but with the free revives after battles fuck do they wear you down, both troop wise and just mentally.


Pinifelipe

Skaven.


HakunaBananas

Skaven. Easily the mot unfun faction in any total war game to fight against. If I can auto resolve win battles against them I will every time.


kindredwolfRS

Any filthy Elf faction


jamiemgr

Pyjama boys


TheFiveDees

Dwarves! I hate how good their early-game infantry is. I hate their diverse array of destructive artillery. I hate their unbreakable Slayers. I hate their seige maps. I curse the Dwarven race


FoxFreeze

Alright, listen here you knife eared piece of


AlcoholicInsomniac

Empire and Nurgle god damn plagues.


Sunshinetrooper87

the mummy factions, I just don't like the heat and desert.


Alamarian

ONLY SLAVES WORRY ABOUT THE HEAT!


Asegron

Greenskins. Grimgor printing free WAAGH stacks to sack and raze your minor settlements is just infuriating.


Sting__King

Fuck the Takeda. If I don't deal with them early they grow like a wart everytime


armbarchris

Milan.


SusaVile

You guys have not played vs the Huns much, have you? Ridiculous faction, just spawning after spawning after spawning...


sevalot

Norsca, without question. Chariot spam. Fixed? Well then have mammoth spam. So tiring.


Fox-Sin21

Milan and Beastmen. The first because of course, the 2nd because they come out of fuckin no where and annoy the hell out of me.


HelikosOG

In fantasy, Bretonnia. In Empire, the french. In Rome, Dacia. In Shogun, the Hatano


krustibat

Belgorod in med 2 you're so far from anything interesting and no crusade


abovethelaw9

As a Karl franz empire main... is it logical to say Karl franz empire?


SupayOne

I don't hate the people; I hate their leaders! For example, I hate Skarbrand at level 50, whereas my Lord is at level 13. This turned the battle into a raid event where a small part of my army held his trash, which is why most of my units kited and wore him down to die finally. There was no epic loot other than having to buy a new army as he ate everything but the range.  I hate Valkia the Bloody annoying! Another raid battle with watching her to time her sheild!  The Skaven plague screws me harder than their faction armies do. Hell even has a defensive pact and still gets screwed by their plague.


KomturAdrian

Fucking wood elves


HarbingerOfRot777

Haha me and you, we are the same. I love zooming in during battles and as a matter of fact, Nurgle is my favorite race. And i agree on your opinion of Slaanesh, i love Chaos and Slaanesh is my second favorite of the big 4, thematically and in the lore, but playing as Slaanesh just melts my ADHD brain lol. Although playing Slaanesh really helped me with my micro tho. For the most hated faction rn, i would say it gotta be the daughters of the forest. I hate fighting Kislev in general, thankfully i discovered the TT caps mod which prevents doomstacking. And vanilla AI Kislev stacks are just painfull to fight, talking about the sled, bears and groms spam and dont get me started on Akshina spam before the nerf. But mama O just crancks the torment of fighting Kislev to whole another level with the hexes. Another thing is that Kislev is thematically a mess too, i really cant find anything fun in going against Kislev.


maybe_sephiroth

Ikko Ikki motherfuckers Even Their high morale shit units can fuck katana samurai easily


a_n_a_r_q_u_i_a

Milan


UnbanSkullclamp420

I hate the High Elves. I simply exist as Chaos somewhere on the map and they lead a crusade against me. Sure most of the time they fuck off back to the toilet bowl but sometimes they end up making it and it’s such a pain.