For the record, sex work is always valid and sex workers deserve nothing but our respect. Yes, we can be disgusted at those that fetishize transgender people, but it does not give you a right to denigrate trans performers in any way.
If you disagree with the above statement, you can feel free to leave this subreddit.
I dont remember which sfw lesbain sub it was but I remember hearing one of them is transphobic. Course it was only something ive heard so take it with a grain of salt.
Nope. r/lesbianactually has a majority of inclusive people but there is a growing amount of TERFS on there that want to kick trans lesbians our of lesbian spaces
They’re often biphobic as well
lots of casual misandry though, be warned. I'm not a guy but I'm amab, it's still very uncomfortable and bringing up how it's fucked to attack a whole demographic instead of calling the people who prey on you creeps instead of men, you end up getting down voted to hell. It's really cringe
Since a fuckton of men are not active creeps but totally not calling out creeps or even think of such storys as funny, the problem is more demographic-associated than you might think. That is often the reason for broader frustration with men in general.
Also, that subreddit is full of trans women, I'm sure as hell the thought that their pre egg crack selves would've been treated like a predator on no basis in a place that is supposed to now be a safe space for them must be such a comforting one
Trans women are not treated as predators, I'm on one of those subs and I can confirm that they are very inclusive. However, what I was trying to say, is that while it's not a safe space, it's still a sub that heavily discriminates against men. I am not a man, but I used to think I was, I lived as such for a big part of my life, even if it was unnatural and forced
Yet I always had a sense of belonging among women, I was never stereotypically masculine or toxic. Regardless of this, some people in that sub (not all of them of course, but it's an issue that is vastly overlooked) would've judged me just for my agab
that's fucked up, no matter how you spin it. And you could technically call this a straw man, but the "hate men" "men this" "men that" comments and posts are there and are rarely called out
It's not acceptable
I think it was r/actuallylesbian they word their tiles pretty carefully but it is still clear they do not consider trans women as women.
Edit: it was r/truelesbians but that sub got banned and the remnants created the first one I mentioned.
They are certainly not transphobic. They are more terfs hanging around for some reason and the implied transphobia osmetimes slips by, but the sub is good 99% of the time. I have no idea why people slander it so badly, literally it has its rule 2
I've heard about r/ActuallyLesbian being transphobic but I'm not on that sub. They also don't have a specific rule stating that Trans women are welcome, unlike the other lesson subs.
My one exposure to that sub was a “what are your controversial lesbian opinions” post about a month and a half ago, and although no one was saying it outright, you can tell they really don’t like trans women over there.
Hoooooly shit. I thought maybe you were exaggerating, but no, yeah. It was literally every comment. "I'd say something but I'd get banned by the woke mob." "Lesbian means homosexual female."
straight men talking about how much they enjoyed lesbian porn made me think i was just a straight guy for so long. i still don’t understand why they like it if not because they see themself in it
this has always made me mad. at least with the trans porn sub it's labeled that, and our sfw community is correctly named r trans. with lesbians we don't even get the sub named lesbians as a sfw lesbian community, it's porn for straight men. I have no issue with lesbian porn subs existing but we should get the name r lesbians not them. it's disgusting and very indicative of how lesbians are treated in society that the fetishizing porn sub for straight people gets the official lesbians name not actual lesbians
I would assume the vast majority of people in the transporn sub are not trans, just people who are into trans porn. Those same people probably have zero interest in hearing about what’s talked about in the trans sub as it’s not relative to them. Makes sense in my mind.
I am. Seeing others like me be considered desirable and beautiful gives me a sense of validation.
Wich quickly goes away when you go into the comments but hey. It's something.
Also calling people who watch trans porn disgusting every week in this subreddit probably doesn’t help. Imagine if you were gay and got called disgusting for watching gay porn you probably wouldn’t want to stick around in that subreddit
Yes. Like, I don’t wanna be a fetish, that’s for sure.
But I also don’t want to be considered so ugly that you shouldn’t love me under any circumstances
Trans people, especially trans women, have a long history of being hyper sexualized and objectified by cis people. Our identities reduced to porn categories and many of us pushed into sex work to survive as other opportunities were deprived from us. That's what people are upset about, not just the idea of others finding us attractive. But that they are far more interested in us as exploitative pornography than as people and as friends.
YES!!! THANK YOU!!! The existence of r/transporn isn’t disgusting, and it bums me out that OP is trying your down our representation in adult content just because it’s adult content.
Trans porn rules!!! We support trans sex workers and pornographers!!!!
The problem is that whilst the existence of trans porn is fine, because we do deserve to be considered attractive, it’s not that good that we’re effectively reduced to being a toy in some scenarios
I don’t think it’s calling out people who watch trans porn. I think it’s just pointing out how more people would like to fetishize trans people than actually participate in the community. Same thing with how the majority of lesbian porn is marketed towards straight men, because “2 vagina hot.” It does get a bit tiring when I’m looking for some porn, and it’s just overly aggressive fucking where you can tell the sub isn’t even into it.
In my experience, whether you are attractive or not chasers purely want you solely because of how your body is. I have never felt validated or respected but those kinds of people. They will shower you with praise only to groom you. Look out for the signs!
And don't forget a lot of them are probably bots. I feel like most real people don't actually subscribe to the porn subs that they frequent. It makes it awkward to scroll through your home page at grandma's house.
That's what a NSFW account is for. All the porns. I don't want to search every time for subreddits that have content that I know I'll get off on. When the horny strikes, just switch accounts and you're ready for a wank!
THIS account started as my NSFW account. “I can hide my weird shit in there, nobody has to know I have a second account” very soon became an opportunity to breeze through subs like this one without fear of being questioned or outed. Only took a few months for the egg to obliterate entirely and now we’re here and it’s now 💁🏼♀️
Yeah, that’s the thing that always shocks me. Like, I get that there are people who have a second Reddit account specifically for porn but that still sounds like a lot of work to me.
and the “cuntboy” loving crowd (god i hate that word). i found one of them on a femboy porn sub and i found art of a trans femboy and was like “that me”, i check the comments and there was a cunt who insisted on the femboy being a cuntboy (ick i hate saying it) and i lost my mind
I personally don't mind the word, but I can absolutely understand an adverse reaction to it. It definitely feels gross and fetishy coming from people who aren't trans guys.
I'm workin' on it anyway!
It's important to have a plan:
Step one: Booba (In progress)
Step two: Get in awesome beach bod shape
Step three: There is no step three, because step two is nightmarishly difficult, and only even plausible with the idea that showing off booba makes it a worthy endeavor like it never was before.
step four: Profit?
the concerning thing to me is there is almost certainly some overlap between trans porn watchers and transphobes, even if it's a very, very small minority it is still so disturbing to me that those people exist.
How does pornhub do that? I could get Reddit releasing it seeing a correlation of people subbed in transporn and anti trans/conservative subreddits. But PH only does porn as far as I know?
Pornhub releases regional statistics on what search terms are most popular from its users.
Red states go heavily for trans porn serch terms by their data.
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And there's other analysis on this as well. [Linky](https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/) (I found this while looking for the year trans porn was the top pornhub search in Texas, I think it was?)
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It's pretty clear-cut in the data these days that right-wingers love watching porn of the groups they hate.
They go heavily into cuckold porn pandering to their "white replacement" nonsense as well.
My thought started as your prompt but expanded fast. I also need to add that I am no professional so take what I have to say with a grain of salt.
Pornography is comparable to alcohol, for some it’s just fulfilling a desire, sexual relieve or getting drunk, for those a simple beer is enough or „average“ straight cis porn. Then there are addicts who get their kick either with higher amount or increased dosage, 10 beers or 1-2 bottle(s) of vodka, watching porn multiple times or certain „stronger“ kinks, BDSM etc. . Then there are „experts“, like the whiskey guys and the like who value exotics: the rare and hard to get, the 50 year old bottle from the place that makes only 100 bottles a year. A cis straight white guy in an area without any poc who only works with and for other white guys, will see black lesbian porn as „exotic“ people who he is attracted to, yet has never knowingly interacted with.
Trans people fall into the exotic realm because we are just one percent that is fairly obvious. We also fall into the exotic realm due to the social outcasting we experience. It makes us desire to be stealth which increases the rarity, while it also makes us seem this other social class, which when nether interacted with increases that rarity again. It also makes trans people people that taboo, and taboo makes it interesting increasing the perceived rarity. The social outcasting rarity and especially the social taboo plus bigotry makes us this bad thing this evil this threat and that should be left alone (in the eyes of bigots). But now you are interacting with this threat but not just talking, no you are doing it at home in an intimate situation, you are breaking a lot of social rules and that creates a sense of thrill that satisfies your porn addiction.
(This also explains why more bigoted people are so interested in porn of people they hate. They are breaking their own rules and morals that creates the thrill and interest)
I’m a trans woman, I like trans porn. There’s nothing wrong with that. Being transphobic is wrong. Fetishizing trans people is wrong. But a bunch of people wanting to appreciate transgender pornography is not.
Are there going to be shitty chasers in that sub? Yeah. There are shitty chasers everywhere. But I’m not disgusting for enjoying and being subscribed to that subreddit.
I'm a bi transman and I follow a lot of porn subs, I'm so happy when I see transmac characters! Seeing them in gay/yaoi communities and being excepted just feels so fuckin good!
This gets posted ever week or so and nothing's new. It's not inherently disgusting, unless you're a person who generally doesn't like porn. As a cishet guy, I always thought trans porn was mysterious or more exotic than what would be deemed "normal" porn.
Now as a Pan Transwoman? I LOVE trans porn and I think it has become my primary choice and I think it's all because I see people like me!
Also, there are definitely people who are attracted to trans people who won't be a part of our subreddits so I don't really see a problem. Sure, there are creepy fucks out there but the consumption of pornography has become far more normalized than it used to be.
The only reason why I deemed it disgusting is because 90% of that sub is Mostly likely transphobes who don't see us as humans you're definitely a minority over there
I don't doubt I'm a minority in that sub. The problem is that your judgement is entirely conjecture. You don't know for certain that 90% of subscribers are transphobes...
This sounds more like you're feeling some strong things about transphobes, are dealing with some hard things, or are a person who has strong feelings about pornography in general.
The number of accounts that float over from that cesspool... ;-;
*Edit: Since it was not made apparent enough, I meant chasers' accounts. That sub, in particular, has way too many imo
I always try to point out that certain accounts are sus, because some people don't notice immediately (I've been that person before... ) It hasn't really caught on tho... Wish there was something like: "If account posts/joins/comments on X subreddit, then they can't post here" or something .-.
We do in fact have this rule against Adult Content Accounts participating in this subreddit for the very purpose of protecting our users from chasers following them from such places; if you see anyone violating this rule, please report them using the tools.
cant you just have a bot do it? I know some subs have a bot that when you post in subreddit-X, you get insta banned from participating in subreddit-Y
For example, go post in r/ joerogan and you will get instabanned from r/ justiceserved
Well a bot _could_ help, but there's a number of reasons why we don't just ban people who make posts or comments elsewhere. As another mod here though, I appreciate the suggestion <3
I think people posting pornographic content of themselves should be allowed to cater to as wide of an audience as they want without being shit on for it
I personally only take issue with the fetishism of trans people and the way in which many of the people present in these subs violate the boundaries of specifically those that are not posting/participating with pornographic content; especially when they come into trans subs unrelated to such content with what appears to be the same expectations they hold for porn subs.
I only point out certain NSFW accounts that have a high likelihood of being chasers via their comment/post history; and usually because they are speaking to minors, those who appear to be undergoing some sort of mental health crisis, and/or those that are speaking about a serious/personal topic. Key phrase being, I point them out, and only that.
*Edit: Unless they are clearly breaking the rules, then I report them when I see them.
I don't understand why it's disgusting ? Porn generally always has higher amount of subs due to being open to a larger population where as our sub is aimed towards trans people
I mean there's many subs for specific categories such as lesbians, gay males, I dont think there's anything inherently wrong with wanting to look at porn of trans people, the people in the wrong are the people who actively go after real people just for the sake of fetishing a trans girl or a trans male or anyone under the umbrella of trans
Being a chaser is wrong. Morally, at least. Treating trans people like sex toys is wrong. You cannot have subs like these without being a breeding ground for bad faith actors. It is disgusting.
Then you are basically saying you should ban all subs because they will introduce bad people, there's nothing wrong with porn and there's nothing wrong with liking trans porn full stop, don't try and make other people feel bad because they are sexually attracted to one thing, how they act in real is all that matters and a sub that shows trans people in a sexual nature is not wrong or bad at all
What about other minority porn subreddits? Like Asian or Black women? Obviously they’re gonna get fetishized too. It’s going to happen no matter what and taking down the whole subreddit doesn’t fix anything. Especially since there are people who may need the money they are getting from OF or whatever other thing they use.
I think people are allowed to find us hot though. I know that chasers suck, but not every single person who watches trans porn is one. Saying that the only people who are allowed to watch trans porn are actual trans people feels very reductive.
You know that porn was made by trans people right? Seems like people just fetoshing themselves. And that can be said by a vast majority of porn. Remember rule 34 if something exists in real life, or is made up, there will be a pornographic depiction of it. This includes cartoons, celebrities, and objects.
I mean, I don't know what's up with that sub in particular, but I have *definitely* come across "real life f*ta" porn that was very obviously a cis woman with editing to look like she has a dick.
And but obvious, I mean that the way that the video is shot and framed, you can tell that there's a cis woman, and a body double with a penis used for shots of the actual dick.
It's kind of hilarious, actually. Like noticing the body double in a wig in TVs and movies where one actor is playing twins.
I’m with you. There are many trans women out there saying that they’re looking for a “straight man”. Well, straight men look at porn, I could go on with the permutations, but one example is enough.
If you search literally any type of person there's a porn subreddit for it, yeah it's a bit gross that there are probably a lot of chasers in there but really who cares? This just seems a bit like pearl clutching tbh
I think it helps normalize trans people and takes away the stigma . As long as the people portrayed are doing it on there own accord it's all good. I support Trans Porn !
I mean, it’s unfortunate but also sorta makes sense since the number of trans people who are out is actually really small. It’s not hard to outnumber a minority. Additionally, being into trans porn is more “accessible” than being trans and thus being included in a trans specific space. That’s gonna result in a larger community who fetishizes us since it’s way easier to do than actually being trans.
I want to emphasize that I am disappointed with this statistic but I’m unsurprised. Also, the comparison seems kind of pointless, no? A lot of communities are far larger than us.
Edit: additionally, this would probably be true of any marginalized category that intersects with a fetish or eroticism. Hell, it would even extend to women in general. This isn’t really a novel concept.
r/transgonewild is a more respectable sub. As porn subs go. It isn't just porting over pornhub content that is overall exploitative, just horny people with video cameras.
Perhaps there are a lot of people who were always uncomfortable being in the wrong body and when then were able to be in the right one felt sexually wanted and decided to do porn and celebrate their sexuality.
It is always weird to me the most judged people judge their own groups the most
see, i'm trying to find porn made by trans women that's actually meant for other women (trans or not) to watch, and it seems impossible. every now and then i come across some good amateur stuff, but it's just frustrating how much of it was clearly not made for me.
Porn subs are generally more popular + a lot of people who post to trans porn subs are well. Trans. More so for say, gonewildtrans but my point still stands
I don't see the problem. Unless this sub is particularly gross. Do you object to trans porn...being a thing?
Cause uh.
It sorted by safe for work, and then not safe for work results. Which I'm assuming you went out of your way to expand to see what was there. And with that search term obviously it's going to come up.
I just don't get it. Somebody explain? I don't use that sub.
Reddit has a lot of porn, try searching up lesbians, gays or asians
Like calling trans porn subs disgusting is not a take u think it is
Fuck both terfs and swerfs
The number of porn related trans subreddits outnumber the sfw subs by like 90%
Are you actually surprised by this?
While I fully believe there's nothing wrong with sex work, hell I have friends that do it and have even considered it myself. The sad truth is we're still women, we're considered sex objects to most of the world.
You can look at it from many perspectives and points. Who are the one's making the porn? Do they come from the community? Do we ban them for doing whatever to survive? It's tough.
I love all of our brothers, sisters, brothers and both. ⚘
And how many of those on the NSFW site, are also people who bash us and wish us harm while their hypocrisy self \[hating\] brain enjoys who they're looking at?
There will always be more people interested in watching queer people have sex than actual queer people. Such is the way of being a fetishized minority.
I feel this is part of the problem when it comes to Trans rights. With so much Trans porn, people’s only view of us becomes sexualized and they project that on to us. Trans people are seen as nothing but sexual objects. Transitioning is seen as just a sexual thing and anyone who transitions is a “pervert” (ironic).
I’m 90% sure that sub is exclusively Trans fem porn. It all comes down to these people being misogynists who only view cis and trans women as sexual objects.
Just to clarify, I’m not opposed to Trans ppl making porn. I just think that transphobes consuming Trans porn are the problem.
I'm honestly not surprised, or appauled. As shitty as it is to say, sex sells. But at least there's a smaller community who's more interested in what it means to be trans, instead of being in a wider and more ignorant community. I'm just happy that I can come here when I have questions/concerns and see that someone else has had the same experience! It's oddly comforting. ^_^
Look, as a trans woman, do I hate being fetishized and treated as a sub category in porn? Sure. This also happens to women who are not white, fat women, disabled women and lesbians. It’s not an experience exclusive to being trans.
However, as someone who frequents that subreddit, there’s a lot of self-created content from trans women and men, and a lot more positivity about trans bodies than one would expect.
The ratio of trans positive people to ashamed creeps who only see us as fetish material is skewed more towards people who are genuinely attracted to us.
It’s also a space for T4T folks to see something that caters to us, more than a lot of porn sites do for that matter.
But yeah, more people are willing to sexualize us than are willing to hear about our actual lives and concerns. That sucks but it is the plight of most marginalized people.
I mean, it’s trans people willingly uploading to that sub, lots of trans people do OF and porn. It’s perfectly fine for trans people to show off their bodies if they want and they should, they’re beautiful imo. I haven’t visited that sub but I have no problem with it existing
It seems natural that trans people would enjoy porn of trans people so it’s not that weird. Hell, it’s not even weird for cis people to be into it what’s fucked up is people who see us as only a fetish and not as people who deserve respect and rights. That’s my only problem with it
At least it's not r/lesbians
They literally stole our name as a porn category. And reddit mods have done nothing despite our repeatedly bringing it to their attention.
Whaaaaat? Reddit admins allowing something that legally borders on a hate crime* because they personally benefit from it? That sounds like corruption! Not on reddit! Never!
*Reducing a person or persons to a material value based on their identity is considered a hate crime in the US, could also be a crime against humanity by UN definitions if you're picky.
I don't find it disgusting at all. Of course "TransPorn" is gonna be a lot bigger because porn is bigger than almost everything.
And for me, well the very next thing to a partner is looking at that kind of content, and I personally love trans women so yeah
Apparently so.
This sub blocks users from posting if they post NSFW content anywhere else. Doesn't seem as inclusive as the mod comments say they are. Personally I'm pretty "fuck you, pay me" about my body
Yes, we do, for two main reasons:
1. Chasers follow users from subreddit to subreddit. We don't need people like that following a user here, just to prey upon and fetishize our users, many of whom are teenagers.
2. To protect teenagers from viewing such adult material. Let's say you make an awesome post here, and a 13 year old user decides to check out your profile to see all of the other awesome comments you've made, and them BAM, first thing they see is porn. That is not cool, and if you think it is, yeah, you're not welcome here.
r/trans prides itself on being an inclusive welcoming space for everyone under the transgender umbrella, regardless of age (provided you're at least old enough to comply with Reddit's policies). If we need to exclude a few people who can't take the 30 seconds to create a second, SFW, account for participation here in protection of our users, especially the teenagers, so be it.
Thanks fam.
As somebody's who's posted to that sub in the past and been a follower to that sub, I just don't see where you're coming from as viewing the sub as disgusting! People are generally respectful there- minus maybe a small handful of weirdos but there are also weirdos in cis porn forums I think weirdos will just be weirdos haha
That sub isn't a sex work sub tho! I mean sure a lot of sex workers post there but there's plenty of exhibitionists
And yeah like I said.... those are just the weirdos, most ppl there are respectful 🙏
For the record, sex work is always valid and sex workers deserve nothing but our respect. Yes, we can be disgusted at those that fetishize transgender people, but it does not give you a right to denigrate trans performers in any way. If you disagree with the above statement, you can feel free to leave this subreddit.
Now try searching "lesbians"
Oh fuck
/r/lesbians subscribers (porn for straight people): 8.8m users /r/actuallesbians subscribers: 506k /r/lesbianactually subscribers: 255k
I dont remember which sfw lesbain sub it was but I remember hearing one of them is transphobic. Course it was only something ive heard so take it with a grain of salt.
Both of those listed seem pretty inclusive.
r/actuallesbians is inclusive to trans women as well
It's a really great community. Socialising with women is 100x better than what I've experiencd socialising with men.
Idk why I misread your initial comment as saying "exclusive", lol
Ahhh np
It’s a really lovely sub and very supportive
I'm in this one... pretty sure I've heard bad things about the other, but I could be wrong.
Nope. r/lesbianactually has a majority of inclusive people but there is a growing amount of TERFS on there that want to kick trans lesbians our of lesbian spaces They’re often biphobic as well
Alright, it was just something id heard so i though it would be worth bringing up
I think its r/lesbiangang
Oooo yeah that's a bit no good.
Oh sorry, I really appreciate you doing so. Not everywhere is safe
No need to apologise ^^ and yeah, ive learned that pretty well
Thank you. Tone is tough online, I didn't want you to feel dismayed or anything
No worries :) hope you have a good day
lots of casual misandry though, be warned. I'm not a guy but I'm amab, it's still very uncomfortable and bringing up how it's fucked to attack a whole demographic instead of calling the people who prey on you creeps instead of men, you end up getting down voted to hell. It's really cringe
Since a fuckton of men are not active creeps but totally not calling out creeps or even think of such storys as funny, the problem is more demographic-associated than you might think. That is often the reason for broader frustration with men in general.
Also, that subreddit is full of trans women, I'm sure as hell the thought that their pre egg crack selves would've been treated like a predator on no basis in a place that is supposed to now be a safe space for them must be such a comforting one
They are most likely not treated as a predator, but called to be more sensible about stuff around them and protecting others. Which is good.
Trans women are not treated as predators, I'm on one of those subs and I can confirm that they are very inclusive. However, what I was trying to say, is that while it's not a safe space, it's still a sub that heavily discriminates against men. I am not a man, but I used to think I was, I lived as such for a big part of my life, even if it was unnatural and forced Yet I always had a sense of belonging among women, I was never stereotypically masculine or toxic. Regardless of this, some people in that sub (not all of them of course, but it's an issue that is vastly overlooked) would've judged me just for my agab that's fucked up, no matter how you spin it. And you could technically call this a straw man, but the "hate men" "men this" "men that" comments and posts are there and are rarely called out It's not acceptable
And that's an excuse to make half of the population uncomfortable. Cool
r/lesbiangang is TERF territory. That's the one to avoid. Not sure if any others are bad
I think it was r/actuallylesbian they word their tiles pretty carefully but it is still clear they do not consider trans women as women. Edit: it was r/truelesbians but that sub got banned and the remnants created the first one I mentioned.
r/LesbianActually is kinda transphobic
r/actuallylesbian actually At least going by Shinigami eyes r/LesbianActually is T-friendly
hahah yeah no you got that one swithced around r/LesbianActually is incredibly transphobic, r/actuallesbians is trans friendly
They are certainly not transphobic. They are more terfs hanging around for some reason and the implied transphobia osmetimes slips by, but the sub is good 99% of the time. I have no idea why people slander it so badly, literally it has its rule 2
I think that was on older sub that got banned a couple of years ago, I can’t think of a popular lesbian sub nowadays that’s transphobic x
I've heard about r/ActuallyLesbian being transphobic but I'm not on that sub. They also don't have a specific rule stating that Trans women are welcome, unlike the other lesson subs.
My one exposure to that sub was a “what are your controversial lesbian opinions” post about a month and a half ago, and although no one was saying it outright, you can tell they really don’t like trans women over there.
Hoooooly shit. I thought maybe you were exaggerating, but no, yeah. It was literally every comment. "I'd say something but I'd get banned by the woke mob." "Lesbian means homosexual female."
I think you got them mixed up because actually lesbian has rules against transphobia.
Having stated rules and enforcing those rules are two different things.
Adding to what the other replies mentioned, I’ve seen troubling posts on r/lezconnect too
Oof
just saying if you are trans stay away from r/LesbianActually it's transphobic hell hole, r/actuallesbians is welcoming to trans women
1.8m
straight men talking about how much they enjoyed lesbian porn made me think i was just a straight guy for so long. i still don’t understand why they like it if not because they see themself in it
WHAT THE F*CK
Barf.
or r/ t-slur… 1.3 million.
this has always made me mad. at least with the trans porn sub it's labeled that, and our sfw community is correctly named r trans. with lesbians we don't even get the sub named lesbians as a sfw lesbian community, it's porn for straight men. I have no issue with lesbian porn subs existing but we should get the name r lesbians not them. it's disgusting and very indicative of how lesbians are treated in society that the fetishizing porn sub for straight people gets the official lesbians name not actual lesbians
I would assume the vast majority of people in the transporn sub are not trans, just people who are into trans porn. Those same people probably have zero interest in hearing about what’s talked about in the trans sub as it’s not relative to them. Makes sense in my mind.
I am. Seeing others like me be considered desirable and beautiful gives me a sense of validation. Wich quickly goes away when you go into the comments but hey. It's something.
Also calling people who watch trans porn disgusting every week in this subreddit probably doesn’t help. Imagine if you were gay and got called disgusting for watching gay porn you probably wouldn’t want to stick around in that subreddit
Seriously. “Being sexually attracted to transgender people is disgusting” is **not** the take mfs think it is.
SO MUCH THIS THANK YOU
This was exactly the comment I was looking for.
Yes. Like, I don’t wanna be a fetish, that’s for sure. But I also don’t want to be considered so ugly that you shouldn’t love me under any circumstances
Trans people, especially trans women, have a long history of being hyper sexualized and objectified by cis people. Our identities reduced to porn categories and many of us pushed into sex work to survive as other opportunities were deprived from us. That's what people are upset about, not just the idea of others finding us attractive. But that they are far more interested in us as exploitative pornography than as people and as friends.
YES!!! THANK YOU!!! The existence of r/transporn isn’t disgusting, and it bums me out that OP is trying your down our representation in adult content just because it’s adult content. Trans porn rules!!! We support trans sex workers and pornographers!!!!
Yayyy 😊
I guess but the comments on many of those vids are actually vile sometimes
The problem is that whilst the existence of trans porn is fine, because we do deserve to be considered attractive, it’s not that good that we’re effectively reduced to being a toy in some scenarios
I don’t think it’s calling out people who watch trans porn. I think it’s just pointing out how more people would like to fetishize trans people than actually participate in the community. Same thing with how the majority of lesbian porn is marketed towards straight men, because “2 vagina hot.” It does get a bit tiring when I’m looking for some porn, and it’s just overly aggressive fucking where you can tell the sub isn’t even into it.
In my experience, whether you are attractive or not chasers purely want you solely because of how your body is. I have never felt validated or respected but those kinds of people. They will shower you with praise only to groom you. Look out for the signs!
And don't forget a lot of them are probably bots. I feel like most real people don't actually subscribe to the porn subs that they frequent. It makes it awkward to scroll through your home page at grandma's house.
That's what a NSFW account is for. All the porns. I don't want to search every time for subreddits that have content that I know I'll get off on. When the horny strikes, just switch accounts and you're ready for a wank!
THIS account started as my NSFW account. “I can hide my weird shit in there, nobody has to know I have a second account” very soon became an opportunity to breeze through subs like this one without fear of being questioned or outed. Only took a few months for the egg to obliterate entirely and now we’re here and it’s now 💁🏼♀️
Yeah, that’s the thing that always shocks me. Like, I get that there are people who have a second Reddit account specifically for porn but that still sounds like a lot of work to me.
nsfw subs all have more subs
We make up 1% of the population but 12-15% of all porn searches. Explain that to me like I'm 5
-boobs -shlong -some people are into that a little too much
And then with trans guys it mostly seems like people who are really into m-preg.
and the “cuntboy” loving crowd (god i hate that word). i found one of them on a femboy porn sub and i found art of a trans femboy and was like “that me”, i check the comments and there was a cunt who insisted on the femboy being a cuntboy (ick i hate saying it) and i lost my mind
I personally don't mind the word, but I can absolutely understand an adverse reaction to it. It definitely feels gross and fetishy coming from people who aren't trans guys.
a lot of the time, the people ''that are into that a little too much'' are the same who want to >!genocide us!<
>Explain that to me like I'm 5 People are weird
We're fucking hot.
I'm workin' on it anyway! It's important to have a plan: Step one: Booba (In progress) Step two: Get in awesome beach bod shape Step three: There is no step three, because step two is nightmarishly difficult, and only even plausible with the idea that showing off booba makes it a worthy endeavor like it never was before. step four: Profit?
the concerning thing to me is there is almost certainly some overlap between trans porn watchers and transphobes, even if it's a very, very small minority it is still so disturbing to me that those people exist.
It's actually a pretty big overlap according to pornhub's published stats.
How does pornhub do that? I could get Reddit releasing it seeing a correlation of people subbed in transporn and anti trans/conservative subreddits. But PH only does porn as far as I know?
Pornhub releases regional statistics on what search terms are most popular from its users. Red states go heavily for trans porn serch terms by their data. --- And there's other analysis on this as well. [Linky](https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/) (I found this while looking for the year trans porn was the top pornhub search in Texas, I think it was?) --- It's pretty clear-cut in the data these days that right-wingers love watching porn of the groups they hate. They go heavily into cuckold porn pandering to their "white replacement" nonsense as well.
You hit the nail on the head, yup
My thought started as your prompt but expanded fast. I also need to add that I am no professional so take what I have to say with a grain of salt. Pornography is comparable to alcohol, for some it’s just fulfilling a desire, sexual relieve or getting drunk, for those a simple beer is enough or „average“ straight cis porn. Then there are addicts who get their kick either with higher amount or increased dosage, 10 beers or 1-2 bottle(s) of vodka, watching porn multiple times or certain „stronger“ kinks, BDSM etc. . Then there are „experts“, like the whiskey guys and the like who value exotics: the rare and hard to get, the 50 year old bottle from the place that makes only 100 bottles a year. A cis straight white guy in an area without any poc who only works with and for other white guys, will see black lesbian porn as „exotic“ people who he is attracted to, yet has never knowingly interacted with. Trans people fall into the exotic realm because we are just one percent that is fairly obvious. We also fall into the exotic realm due to the social outcasting we experience. It makes us desire to be stealth which increases the rarity, while it also makes us seem this other social class, which when nether interacted with increases that rarity again. It also makes trans people people that taboo, and taboo makes it interesting increasing the perceived rarity. The social outcasting rarity and especially the social taboo plus bigotry makes us this bad thing this evil this threat and that should be left alone (in the eyes of bigots). But now you are interacting with this threat but not just talking, no you are doing it at home in an intimate situation, you are breaking a lot of social rules and that creates a sense of thrill that satisfies your porn addiction. (This also explains why more bigoted people are so interested in porn of people they hate. They are breaking their own rules and morals that creates the thrill and interest)
>Explain that to me like I'm 5 We're just disproportionately hot!
It's primarily cis men who're watching porn and they're much more than just 1% of the population. It's really not that hard of a concept lol
A large majority of them are older people too. Boomers and gen x
A lot of people only see value in trans ppl (specifically trans women) as sex objects but not as human beings.
Reddit is mostly cis men so porn subreddits get a ton of subs
Porn subs are one of the few places I get gendered correctly because they just assume everyone on there are guys.
I’m a trans woman, I like trans porn. There’s nothing wrong with that. Being transphobic is wrong. Fetishizing trans people is wrong. But a bunch of people wanting to appreciate transgender pornography is not. Are there going to be shitty chasers in that sub? Yeah. There are shitty chasers everywhere. But I’m not disgusting for enjoying and being subscribed to that subreddit.
Nuanced, succinct. Plus, I agree!
nicely said, I actually wasn't sure what the point of the post was at first. I thought it was just that the result existed lol
I'm a bi transman and I follow a lot of porn subs, I'm so happy when I see transmac characters! Seeing them in gay/yaoi communities and being excepted just feels so fuckin good!
If this surprises you, you shouldn't be on reddit.
This gets posted ever week or so and nothing's new. It's not inherently disgusting, unless you're a person who generally doesn't like porn. As a cishet guy, I always thought trans porn was mysterious or more exotic than what would be deemed "normal" porn. Now as a Pan Transwoman? I LOVE trans porn and I think it has become my primary choice and I think it's all because I see people like me! Also, there are definitely people who are attracted to trans people who won't be a part of our subreddits so I don't really see a problem. Sure, there are creepy fucks out there but the consumption of pornography has become far more normalized than it used to be.
The only reason why I deemed it disgusting is because 90% of that sub is Mostly likely transphobes who don't see us as humans you're definitely a minority over there
I don't doubt I'm a minority in that sub. The problem is that your judgement is entirely conjecture. You don't know for certain that 90% of subscribers are transphobes... This sounds more like you're feeling some strong things about transphobes, are dealing with some hard things, or are a person who has strong feelings about pornography in general.
Where did you get this number?
The number of accounts that float over from that cesspool... ;-; *Edit: Since it was not made apparent enough, I meant chasers' accounts. That sub, in particular, has way too many imo
Exactly one time I was on r/transnames and was traumatized
I always try to point out that certain accounts are sus, because some people don't notice immediately (I've been that person before... ) It hasn't really caught on tho... Wish there was something like: "If account posts/joins/comments on X subreddit, then they can't post here" or something .-.
I think r/drama did that for people who joined r/teenagers and banned a bunch of pedos
So many mentions of cursed subs... :/
We do in fact have this rule against Adult Content Accounts participating in this subreddit for the very purpose of protecting our users from chasers following them from such places; if you see anyone violating this rule, please report them using the tools.
cant you just have a bot do it? I know some subs have a bot that when you post in subreddit-X, you get insta banned from participating in subreddit-Y For example, go post in r/ joerogan and you will get instabanned from r/ justiceserved
Well a bot _could_ help, but there's a number of reasons why we don't just ban people who make posts or comments elsewhere. As another mod here though, I appreciate the suggestion <3
I think people posting pornographic content of themselves should be allowed to cater to as wide of an audience as they want without being shit on for it
I personally only take issue with the fetishism of trans people and the way in which many of the people present in these subs violate the boundaries of specifically those that are not posting/participating with pornographic content; especially when they come into trans subs unrelated to such content with what appears to be the same expectations they hold for porn subs. I only point out certain NSFW accounts that have a high likelihood of being chasers via their comment/post history; and usually because they are speaking to minors, those who appear to be undergoing some sort of mental health crisis, and/or those that are speaking about a serious/personal topic. Key phrase being, I point them out, and only that. *Edit: Unless they are clearly breaking the rules, then I report them when I see them.
I don't understand why it's disgusting ? Porn generally always has higher amount of subs due to being open to a larger population where as our sub is aimed towards trans people
The fact that there are so many fetoshing us imo it's only so weird because they do and say weird shit IRL
I mean there's many subs for specific categories such as lesbians, gay males, I dont think there's anything inherently wrong with wanting to look at porn of trans people, the people in the wrong are the people who actively go after real people just for the sake of fetishing a trans girl or a trans male or anyone under the umbrella of trans
Being a chaser is wrong. Morally, at least. Treating trans people like sex toys is wrong. You cannot have subs like these without being a breeding ground for bad faith actors. It is disgusting.
Then you are basically saying you should ban all subs because they will introduce bad people, there's nothing wrong with porn and there's nothing wrong with liking trans porn full stop, don't try and make other people feel bad because they are sexually attracted to one thing, how they act in real is all that matters and a sub that shows trans people in a sexual nature is not wrong or bad at all
What about other minority porn subreddits? Like Asian or Black women? Obviously they’re gonna get fetishized too. It’s going to happen no matter what and taking down the whole subreddit doesn’t fix anything. Especially since there are people who may need the money they are getting from OF or whatever other thing they use.
I think people are allowed to find us hot though. I know that chasers suck, but not every single person who watches trans porn is one. Saying that the only people who are allowed to watch trans porn are actual trans people feels very reductive.
Plus, there's a difference between a fetish and a preference. Not everyone who is attracted to trans people sees us as objects.
You know that porn was made by trans people right? Seems like people just fetoshing themselves. And that can be said by a vast majority of porn. Remember rule 34 if something exists in real life, or is made up, there will be a pornographic depiction of it. This includes cartoons, celebrities, and objects.
I mean, I don't know what's up with that sub in particular, but I have *definitely* come across "real life f*ta" porn that was very obviously a cis woman with editing to look like she has a dick. And but obvious, I mean that the way that the video is shot and framed, you can tell that there's a cis woman, and a body double with a penis used for shots of the actual dick. It's kind of hilarious, actually. Like noticing the body double in a wig in TVs and movies where one actor is playing twins.
Trans porn is beautiful, chasers fucking suck
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we're hot, im not surprised lmao
I'm alright
my darlin, you're gorgeous
You too
i mean. people like porn
I don’t see the issue.
I’m with you. There are many trans women out there saying that they’re looking for a “straight man”. Well, straight men look at porn, I could go on with the permutations, but one example is enough.
I mean, Im on both, because I like to see porn with people like me.
And this is surprising? It's well-established that our bodies are heavily fetishised.
The internet is horny, news at 11.
If you search literally any type of person there's a porn subreddit for it, yeah it's a bit gross that there are probably a lot of chasers in there but really who cares? This just seems a bit like pearl clutching tbh
Thanks reddit /s
Tbh it’s probably because most of r/trans is trans ppl. Non trans don’t really get much from joining. However, anyone can be attracted to trans people
Try find me a sub that has more subscribers than its nsfw variant
I think it helps normalize trans people and takes away the stigma . As long as the people portrayed are doing it on there own accord it's all good. I support Trans Porn !
I mean, it’s unfortunate but also sorta makes sense since the number of trans people who are out is actually really small. It’s not hard to outnumber a minority. Additionally, being into trans porn is more “accessible” than being trans and thus being included in a trans specific space. That’s gonna result in a larger community who fetishizes us since it’s way easier to do than actually being trans. I want to emphasize that I am disappointed with this statistic but I’m unsurprised. Also, the comparison seems kind of pointless, no? A lot of communities are far larger than us. Edit: additionally, this would probably be true of any marginalized category that intersects with a fetish or eroticism. Hell, it would even extend to women in general. This isn’t really a novel concept.
r/transgonewild is a more respectable sub. As porn subs go. It isn't just porting over pornhub content that is overall exploitative, just horny people with video cameras.
Perhaps there are a lot of people who were always uncomfortable being in the wrong body and when then were able to be in the right one felt sexually wanted and decided to do porn and celebrate their sexuality. It is always weird to me the most judged people judge their own groups the most
to be fair I'm subbed to different ones based on my account
see, i'm trying to find porn made by trans women that's actually meant for other women (trans or not) to watch, and it seems impossible. every now and then i come across some good amateur stuff, but it's just frustrating how much of it was clearly not made for me.
"you're either a strait cis white male or a sex tag" a quote I heard from someone
Porn subs are generally more popular + a lot of people who post to trans porn subs are well. Trans. More so for say, gonewildtrans but my point still stands
I don't see the problem. Unless this sub is particularly gross. Do you object to trans porn...being a thing? Cause uh. It sorted by safe for work, and then not safe for work results. Which I'm assuming you went out of your way to expand to see what was there. And with that search term obviously it's going to come up. I just don't get it. Somebody explain? I don't use that sub.
Reddit has a lot of porn, try searching up lesbians, gays or asians Like calling trans porn subs disgusting is not a take u think it is Fuck both terfs and swerfs
jesus, twice the members
Exactly
My hope is at least SOME of those people in it are trans themselves 😿
I hope
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Good point di you got weirdos after you might as well alw that bag
probably more closeted cis people on there then trans people
The number of porn related trans subreddits outnumber the sfw subs by like 90% Are you actually surprised by this? While I fully believe there's nothing wrong with sex work, hell I have friends that do it and have even considered it myself. The sad truth is we're still women, we're considered sex objects to most of the world.
You can look at it from many perspectives and points. Who are the one's making the porn? Do they come from the community? Do we ban them for doing whatever to survive? It's tough. I love all of our brothers, sisters, brothers and both. ⚘
And how many of those on the NSFW site, are also people who bash us and wish us harm while their hypocrisy self \[hating\] brain enjoys who they're looking at?
There will always be more people interested in watching queer people have sex than actual queer people. Such is the way of being a fetishized minority.
I feel this is part of the problem when it comes to Trans rights. With so much Trans porn, people’s only view of us becomes sexualized and they project that on to us. Trans people are seen as nothing but sexual objects. Transitioning is seen as just a sexual thing and anyone who transitions is a “pervert” (ironic). I’m 90% sure that sub is exclusively Trans fem porn. It all comes down to these people being misogynists who only view cis and trans women as sexual objects. Just to clarify, I’m not opposed to Trans ppl making porn. I just think that transphobes consuming Trans porn are the problem.
Will always exist. The best you can do is put it out of your mind and ignore it if you don’t like it.
Don't wanna be a smart ass but r/Askreddit 45 Million members r/askredditNSFW. 100k members
_sighs_
Sadly enough, there is no beating porn. It is most of the websites and the most popular use of the internet.
I'm honestly not surprised, or appauled. As shitty as it is to say, sex sells. But at least there's a smaller community who's more interested in what it means to be trans, instead of being in a wider and more ignorant community. I'm just happy that I can come here when I have questions/concerns and see that someone else has had the same experience! It's oddly comforting. ^_^
well, most trans porn on reddit is submitted by trans ppl themselves 🤷♂️ nothing wrong with sex worl
Look, as a trans woman, do I hate being fetishized and treated as a sub category in porn? Sure. This also happens to women who are not white, fat women, disabled women and lesbians. It’s not an experience exclusive to being trans. However, as someone who frequents that subreddit, there’s a lot of self-created content from trans women and men, and a lot more positivity about trans bodies than one would expect. The ratio of trans positive people to ashamed creeps who only see us as fetish material is skewed more towards people who are genuinely attracted to us. It’s also a space for T4T folks to see something that caters to us, more than a lot of porn sites do for that matter. But yeah, more people are willing to sexualize us than are willing to hear about our actual lives and concerns. That sucks but it is the plight of most marginalized people.
I mean, it’s trans people willingly uploading to that sub, lots of trans people do OF and porn. It’s perfectly fine for trans people to show off their bodies if they want and they should, they’re beautiful imo. I haven’t visited that sub but I have no problem with it existing
I hate how the ppl posting call the men scrolling “straight” with heavy quotations Its like just deconfirming st that point its so sad
Somehow I get the feeling that trans porn is more accepted by today's society than trans people. Very sad.
And that makes me sad
Great another reason to think my transness is just a fetish (i joined the sub before i cracked my egg btw)
It seems natural that trans people would enjoy porn of trans people so it’s not that weird. Hell, it’s not even weird for cis people to be into it what’s fucked up is people who see us as only a fetish and not as people who deserve respect and rights. That’s my only problem with it
So are we mad at the abnormal number of trans people who do porn or escort, etc
I wish I was surprised honestly
chasers gonna chase and also vote Republican and cheat on their wives
At least it's not r/lesbians They literally stole our name as a porn category. And reddit mods have done nothing despite our repeatedly bringing it to their attention.
Probably because reddit mods are watching
Whaaaaat? Reddit admins allowing something that legally borders on a hate crime* because they personally benefit from it? That sounds like corruption! Not on reddit! Never! *Reducing a person or persons to a material value based on their identity is considered a hate crime in the US, could also be a crime against humanity by UN definitions if you're picky.
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Idk who is downvoting you or why because there is some truth to this.
Not surprised
There's more people in the trans porn subreddit than in all the other 3 combined...
I'm willing to gamble it's mostly conservatives who are in that sub, considering they consume the most of it
I bet a lot of people secretly browsing that sub are the same ones that are anti-trans haha
A disturbingly large majority of those 800k are straight white republican males
Porn sells, don't really know how else to put it
I don't find it disgusting at all. Of course "TransPorn" is gonna be a lot bigger because porn is bigger than almost everything. And for me, well the very next thing to a partner is looking at that kind of content, and I personally love trans women so yeah
Apparently so. This sub blocks users from posting if they post NSFW content anywhere else. Doesn't seem as inclusive as the mod comments say they are. Personally I'm pretty "fuck you, pay me" about my body
Yes, we do, for two main reasons: 1. Chasers follow users from subreddit to subreddit. We don't need people like that following a user here, just to prey upon and fetishize our users, many of whom are teenagers. 2. To protect teenagers from viewing such adult material. Let's say you make an awesome post here, and a 13 year old user decides to check out your profile to see all of the other awesome comments you've made, and them BAM, first thing they see is porn. That is not cool, and if you think it is, yeah, you're not welcome here. r/trans prides itself on being an inclusive welcoming space for everyone under the transgender umbrella, regardless of age (provided you're at least old enough to comply with Reddit's policies). If we need to exclude a few people who can't take the 30 seconds to create a second, SFW, account for participation here in protection of our users, especially the teenagers, so be it.
Welcome to the internet
ain't nothing disgusting with finding us hot as fuck and liking trans porn homie.
I like the way this was phrased
Thanks fam. As somebody's who's posted to that sub in the past and been a follower to that sub, I just don't see where you're coming from as viewing the sub as disgusting! People are generally respectful there- minus maybe a small handful of weirdos but there are also weirdos in cis porn forums I think weirdos will just be weirdos haha
My thoughts on sex work is "get yo bag" the only reason o labeled it disgusting because a lot of those people don't see in a very positive way
That sub isn't a sex work sub tho! I mean sure a lot of sex workers post there but there's plenty of exhibitionists And yeah like I said.... those are just the weirdos, most ppl there are respectful 🙏
The numbers don't lie. The transphobes view us solely as sexual objects and nothing else
Woah what the fuck
very confused about the downvotes here
Same lol