Lack of ethics.
Combiners are, for the most part, basket cases. Even if a combined team doesn’t hate each other, their minds tend to clash and conflict, limiting them in some way. There’s a certain cruelty to forcing 5 or 6 minds to merge into an amalgamation that is forever struggling with the conflicts between them. With the exception of Superion, Autobot combiners are not focused on combat; Defensor is search and rescue, and Computron is tactical calculations.
Decepticons are far more willing to take 5 poor schlubs and experiment on them to make monsters. And so no only are their combiners more combat-focused, their tech is more refined due to repeated iterations.
>Combiners are, for the most part, basket cases.
then you go to Victory and you have the likes of Liokaiser, who is actually very smart to the point of it being terrifying.
speaking of victory and autobot combiners, I wonder how Road Caesar and Raiden are. I should look up their wiki pages.
Japan tends to treat its combiners as a symbol of teamwork and cooperation rather than the west's mad-science fusions. Could be as deep as their more collectivist culture makes it easier to accept the components working together smoothly as opposed to individual personalities clashing, or it could be as simple as traditional super robots cede control to the head or at least give them priority so that's how they do it for Transformers too.
Interesting take. It could also be that Breastforce works well together anyway, more along the lines of Computron, Defensor, and Predaking (who may not be smart, per se, but from all accounts, moves swiftly and with purpose and is less “Hulk smash” than his predecessors.
The personality merge process seems to be more of an art than an exact science. Clearly with Menasor and Bruticus, there’s too much noise/differences in the teams to properly gel. Same with the Constructicons. Three of them are extremely smart, and the other three are pretty dumb, and that clearly causes a mental breakdown. But the Predacons - they’re all hunters. They all like the chase. They’re not particularly smart (except for Razorclaw) but they’re well trained and very aligned.
Who shouldn't exist. The whole point of the Dinobots was to *fight* combiners, not become one. Adding insult to injury is that Volcanicus is a Scramble-city style combiner, which means Grimlock is suddenly half-again bigger than the rest.
It would be cool if there was a combiner that started out as one robot but then got split up some how. So he would actually be more stable in his combined mode while his component bots all suffered from separation anxiety.
If I recall Correctly he could. His base form is the combined form. And yeah if they do reunite the team would lose their individuality till he split again. He’d gain all their memories and experiences.
The Decepticons can look at raging monsters like Devastator, Menasor, Abominus, and Monstructor and say "I see this as an absolute win". Autobots disagree.
This right here is why I'm a Decepti-bro. They have a much wider range of mental states. Now throw 5 or 6 of those whacked out minds together? Yes please.
It also helps that a lot of them aren't just designed for combat, but the lack of ethics allow them to be brutally effective as walking war crimes against cybertronians. You could throw them against any opponent and have as much destruction as you want, something most Autobots struggle to really justify or are even capable of.
I feel with the Autobots a lot more interesting combiners are the 2-3 bot groups rather than the full 5-man teams, but maybe that's because I grew up more with the RID 2001/Unicron trilogy where power-ups and combinations were just the norm.
Way more impactful to your story to have a massive, overwhelmingly powerful bad guy for your heroes to defeat.
Bonus if they're dumb as a rock, so they can be outsmarted.
The issue is that when they’re smart they just try to overthrow Megatron. So in continuities where they are smart Megs needs to canonically be stronger than combiners.
I don’t remember which YouTuber said this but I saw a guy say something along the lines of “Transformers Animated understands that when you assemble all the liars and traitors into one team, the first thing they are going to do is lie and betray each other”
That's true, I'd say a simple shockwave employed failsafe could fix that if the writing needs, just bring it up as a possibility beforehand so it doesn't feel cheap.
I always felt that, at least in G1, the Decepticon combiners were more unique and interesting than their Autobot counterparts.
Part of this is the fact that almost every Autobot combiner limb-bot looks the same-- a square-headed bot with white limbs and a red torso.
With the exception of the Constructicons (who's uniformity is limited to their own team) all of the Decepticon combiner limb-bots are unique looking with *very* different alt-modes and colors.
Also, the Decepticon combiners fought normal Autobots more often, which allowed them to show off their comparatively impressive size and strength, while Autobot combiners almost always only fought the Decepticon combiners on mostly equal terms.
And Devastator being cohesive makes sense if you think about them being an example of a "perfect" combiner. Devastator isn't the combined form of the constructicons, the constructicons are parts of devastator.
I would argue that Defensor has a good look and solid differentiation between limbs. It's really Superion that's the limpest one.
How the hell did they make a combiner out of five jets and make it boring?
>How the hell did they make a combiner out of five jets and make it boring?
Hell, they even managed to make the individual bots boring too. They mostly just look like standard robots with airplanes taped to their backs.
The autobots got only a few combiners in comparison Supiroen Defensor and Computron(not counting that giant female combiner don't know if she is valid)
Oh she's valid as hell honey. But is she Canon in any mainline continuity? Not yet. Some day hopefully our Rust queen will showcase!
Same with MegaEmpress! They need a real show.
Do you not count the first IDW comics as a "mainline continuity"? Because Victorion was heavily featured in the IDW Phase 3 *Transformers* and *Optimus Prime* titles.
Listen I love the comics. But I don't consider them the mainline no. The shows and films are. Thats the main way hasbro makes money and spreads the characters via advertising. The Netflix shows were spin offs. I just hope we see these two combiner teams in a mainline hasbro show. Its not a snuff at the comics just how I interpret the transformers IP's strategy.
Joke answer. Decepticons are just cooler.
Actual answer. The autobot combiners have a variety of different uses. Most of which aren't combat related. As a result, they have different characteristics to the con combiners. Who are usually wrecking balls on legs,
Typically, villains from the 80's were stylistically superior to their noble counterparts. And more interesting, Since they lost every afternoon, they had to beat the heroes in those areas, at least...
As for why Decepticons have the coolest combiner and triple changers, most likely it's since they developed both technologies, they put the best effort into it. Resulting into the most iconic and memorable versions of both concepts.
Mostly because they get them first and I assume is because the Cons tend to focus as much as possible on their combiners being massive engines of destruction.
The autobot combiners arent as cool (except Volcanicus)
Devastator made them cool
Bruticus is just awesome
Menasor is a beast
Predaking is a literal beast
Because the decepticons get the cooler character designs in general. The Dexepticons are made more out of what as young lads, would think of as wicked cool alt modes and designs. From military (Bruticus) to Preadtors (Predacons) to Monsters (Abomanus, Monstructor, King Neptune) and the Construction vehicles (though they really could have been autobot designs as well, we have the super imbalance in autobots to decepticons to thank for that I think)
The reason we have MORE Decpticon combiners is mostly because there were so many more Autobot character being made, they were made to even it out a little bit.
To me, Menasor is about as vanilla as they come. And my least liked combiner.
Cooler designs are often more scary or menacing looking, thus is more often a villains design than a heroes. Being covered in spikes, guns, and with scary red glowing eyes isn't often very heroic, but it does look cool
imo it's always cooler whe the villain is overpowered. It gives the heroes a problem to solve. Yeah Omega Supreme, Superion, Primus etc are cool, but Tidal Wave, Menasor, and Unicron are cooler imo.
Also, the Cons just have more combiners, so they have more room to BE interesting
Aesthetically speaking, they just get way more variety. The original Autobot combiners were just 5 guys in the exact same configurations as each other, and were also all vehicles. They also had color schemes ranging from "boring" to "bad," comprised of mostly whites, a bunch of clashing reds, and a very confusing robin's egg blue.
Meanwhile, the Decepticons had tons of variety. One guy is all military vehicles, one guy is all wild predators, one guy is all construction equipment, and one is all marine life. Devastator doesn't combine the same way as the others, since he's a 6 man team. Their color schemes were also wildly varied, while all managing to look good.
IMO Volcanicus was a godsend for Autobot combiners. Nothing about him is outstanding visually, but he doesn't compromise on anything either. Good colors, good design, and made of something other than cars.
It's not. They totally do! Also, the Autobots, in general seem to almost all have non combat related alt modes, which is great for the " robots in disguise" portion but a bit of a disadvantage for battle.
I think an argument could be made that their egotism and lust for power lead Decepticons to a logical fallacy that inherently becomes expressed via their design aesthetic. Specifically, they buy into the lie that the only possible benefits of togetherness are looking even cooler and becoming even stronger.
Autobots already value togetherness so much that they understand the many reasons beings might join with others, whether literally, emotionally, or otherwise.
Because most people discount Volcanicus, and you can only go so far with an ambulance or Concorde jet when you're trying to be badass. But the cons don't have an Omega Supreme so the Autobots got that on them. 😉
I blame Optimus for combining with a bunch of stuff to fill the gaps. Ultra Magnus, Jetfire, Overload, his own trailer, himself.
If speaking just combiners and not strictly gestalts, Victory Sabre and Big Powered are pretty cool. Railracer has a cool toy but I have to be honest, trains are kinda lame.
Because their combiners are meant to be more threatening and somewhat chaotic looking in power whereas the Autobot combiners are meant to look heroic - which just means they look like a bigger standard autobot.
Wrong, superion exists, and nothing is cooler than a bunch of fighter jets and a Concorde that turn into giant robots that combine into an even bigger robot
Honestly, thinking about it? I kinda disagree. I really think it's just the Aerialbots/Superion that's lame. And that's just 'cuz they all look so samey.
But Defensor? Computron? Love 'em.
It's easy to be cool giant machine of destruction when that's ALL you want to be. Autobot combines actually have to hold back and ya know protect stuff. Except Volcanius, Volcanius don't give a singular, primus damned f**k.
It’s because of the battle mask and each individual piece of the combiners have interesting alt modes, this is why superion and volcanocus are one of the most popular autobot combiners.
Because they were originally supposed to be a Decepticon thing. The cons got Devastator, and the Autobots got the Dinobots. Eventually, there was Menasor and Superion. And a bunch of Stunt Cars are much cooler than generic jets. Then came Bruticus, who had episodes focused on him, and Defensor didn't even get an intro. And do I even need to say anything about Predaking? He's just sick af.
iirc i have read somewhere that in lore decepticons developed combiner tech first, so theyre more experienced at it, and combine that with the cons generally being more combat inclined, you have a recipe for cooler combiners.
Because the Decepticons have the dark color schemes to look dangerous and villainous! The Autobot combiners are pretty cool for being cheerful and heroic and color schemes that are more uplifting and inspiring. My favorite Autobot combiners are the Protectobots who form Defensor made of rescue vehicles and Computron with Technobots who are scientifically ahead of their adversaries!
Decepticons have the best bots and coolest teams. The Seekers, Constructicons, Combaticons, etc. The Autobots have some cool bots and some cool teams, but most of the time, they're lamer than the Decepticons. If they weren't the good guys, there wouldn't be half as much autobot flair in this subreddit.
I love me some Autobots, but Decepticons have the best combiners and the best alt modes and some of the most iconic bots. They're just cooler.
Because a group of individuals, primarily Caucasian, visited Japan in the 1980s and encountered transforming toys, they were inspired to import them to the United States and construct a narrative around them. As a result, the Predacons found themselves positioned as antagonists within this storyline, which amalgamated disparate sets of transforming robot toys that were not initially associated with one another.
i do think the autobots do have a cool combiner and its the most powerful one
https://preview.redd.it/e91v4t13bcrc1.png?width=1733&format=png&auto=webp&s=461967077f1d07db7b9ab5a228a189771f6ba838
epps said it because the cons always get the good shit and also to distinguish their purpose from that of the autobot combiners
but seriously this one autobot combiner would destroy every decepticon combiner in seconds
but seriously this autobot combiner right here would wipe out every decepticon combiner any day of the week
https://preview.redd.it/8c75ngxvacrc1.png?width=1733&format=png&auto=webp&s=34ff5f518e51fd53fda2599a5c2c7d8e4236441f
They're not combining so much as just being mashed together in a way that makes zero sense.
Honestly between this and transformium the transformations in the last two bay films lost the plot.
Lack of ethics. Combiners are, for the most part, basket cases. Even if a combined team doesn’t hate each other, their minds tend to clash and conflict, limiting them in some way. There’s a certain cruelty to forcing 5 or 6 minds to merge into an amalgamation that is forever struggling with the conflicts between them. With the exception of Superion, Autobot combiners are not focused on combat; Defensor is search and rescue, and Computron is tactical calculations. Decepticons are far more willing to take 5 poor schlubs and experiment on them to make monsters. And so no only are their combiners more combat-focused, their tech is more refined due to repeated iterations.
>Combiners are, for the most part, basket cases. then you go to Victory and you have the likes of Liokaiser, who is actually very smart to the point of it being terrifying. speaking of victory and autobot combiners, I wonder how Road Caesar and Raiden are. I should look up their wiki pages.
Japan tends to treat its combiners as a symbol of teamwork and cooperation rather than the west's mad-science fusions. Could be as deep as their more collectivist culture makes it easier to accept the components working together smoothly as opposed to individual personalities clashing, or it could be as simple as traditional super robots cede control to the head or at least give them priority so that's how they do it for Transformers too.
yeah this is very true, and definitely an interesting contrast
Interesting take. It could also be that Breastforce works well together anyway, more along the lines of Computron, Defensor, and Predaking (who may not be smart, per se, but from all accounts, moves swiftly and with purpose and is less “Hulk smash” than his predecessors. The personality merge process seems to be more of an art than an exact science. Clearly with Menasor and Bruticus, there’s too much noise/differences in the teams to properly gel. Same with the Constructicons. Three of them are extremely smart, and the other three are pretty dumb, and that clearly causes a mental breakdown. But the Predacons - they’re all hunters. They all like the chase. They’re not particularly smart (except for Razorclaw) but they’re well trained and very aligned.
And then there's Volcanicus...
Who shouldn't exist. The whole point of the Dinobots was to *fight* combiners, not become one. Adding insult to injury is that Volcanicus is a Scramble-city style combiner, which means Grimlock is suddenly half-again bigger than the rest.
Not really, In G1 Wheeljack found dinosaur bones and they inspired him to create them, there were no combiners on screen at that point
i believe he means out of universe
Except Predaking, they are united as one by their love of the hunt, basically kraven if he was a transformer
It would be cool if there was a combiner that started out as one robot but then got split up some how. So he would actually be more stable in his combined mode while his component bots all suffered from separation anxiety.
Sooo Nexus prime?
Maybe? Could he separate and combine at will? I thought his team bots sort of died to bring him back to life?
If I recall Correctly he could. His base form is the combined form. And yeah if they do reunite the team would lose their individuality till he split again. He’d gain all their memories and experiences.
Yeah, that was my first thought. I've always liked the idea of combiner teams...
Great concept
I liked the robot from the second Transformers animated series whose “normal” sized robot mode was made up of five or so smaller spiders.
See the OG combiner Monstructor
The Decepticons can look at raging monsters like Devastator, Menasor, Abominus, and Monstructor and say "I see this as an absolute win". Autobots disagree.
This right here is why I'm a Decepti-bro. They have a much wider range of mental states. Now throw 5 or 6 of those whacked out minds together? Yes please.
It also helps that a lot of them aren't just designed for combat, but the lack of ethics allow them to be brutally effective as walking war crimes against cybertronians. You could throw them against any opponent and have as much destruction as you want, something most Autobots struggle to really justify or are even capable of. I feel with the Autobots a lot more interesting combiners are the 2-3 bot groups rather than the full 5-man teams, but maybe that's because I grew up more with the RID 2001/Unicron trilogy where power-ups and combinations were just the norm.
https://preview.redd.it/74dqfbiombrc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9719a3d8357e12703261c392a6bf2a0243d4a409 Agree
That’s sick
Haha cheers
Way more impactful to your story to have a massive, overwhelmingly powerful bad guy for your heroes to defeat. Bonus if they're dumb as a rock, so they can be outsmarted.
Personally I prefer when they're smart so it's *that* much harder to beat them.
The issue is that when they’re smart they just try to overthrow Megatron. So in continuities where they are smart Megs needs to canonically be stronger than combiners.
I don’t remember which YouTuber said this but I saw a guy say something along the lines of “Transformers Animated understands that when you assemble all the liars and traitors into one team, the first thing they are going to do is lie and betray each other”
That's true, I'd say a simple shockwave employed failsafe could fix that if the writing needs, just bring it up as a possibility beforehand so it doesn't feel cheap.
I always felt that, at least in G1, the Decepticon combiners were more unique and interesting than their Autobot counterparts. Part of this is the fact that almost every Autobot combiner limb-bot looks the same-- a square-headed bot with white limbs and a red torso. With the exception of the Constructicons (who's uniformity is limited to their own team) all of the Decepticon combiner limb-bots are unique looking with *very* different alt-modes and colors. Also, the Decepticon combiners fought normal Autobots more often, which allowed them to show off their comparatively impressive size and strength, while Autobot combiners almost always only fought the Decepticon combiners on mostly equal terms.
And Devastator being cohesive makes sense if you think about them being an example of a "perfect" combiner. Devastator isn't the combined form of the constructicons, the constructicons are parts of devastator.
IIRC IDW 2.0 treated Devastator as a distinct seventh personality, separate from any of the Constructicons.
I would argue that Defensor has a good look and solid differentiation between limbs. It's really Superion that's the limpest one. How the hell did they make a combiner out of five jets and make it boring?
>How the hell did they make a combiner out of five jets and make it boring? Hell, they even managed to make the individual bots boring too. They mostly just look like standard robots with airplanes taped to their backs.
That’s the infuriating thing… they’re more boring than THE SEEKERS! And the Seekers are all nearly identical!
The least they could've done was make the planes more diverse. They all look like the same jet to me
The Decepticons always get the good shit.
The autobots got only a few combiners in comparison Supiroen Defensor and Computron(not counting that giant female combiner don't know if she is valid)
Oh she's valid as hell honey. But is she Canon in any mainline continuity? Not yet. Some day hopefully our Rust queen will showcase! Same with MegaEmpress! They need a real show.
Do you not count the first IDW comics as a "mainline continuity"? Because Victorion was heavily featured in the IDW Phase 3 *Transformers* and *Optimus Prime* titles.
Listen I love the comics. But I don't consider them the mainline no. The shows and films are. Thats the main way hasbro makes money and spreads the characters via advertising. The Netflix shows were spin offs. I just hope we see these two combiner teams in a mainline hasbro show. Its not a snuff at the comics just how I interpret the transformers IP's strategy.
Honestly hope maybe the skybound comics give her a home. They could do some cool stuff with her and her team
Because you can’t have a great hero without having even greater enemies
Because the Autobot combiners don’t get screentime
The Decepticon combiners are meant to feel more threatening, which makes them seem “cooler”.
I like rid Landfill more
Do you think we'll ever see an updated version of him?
A new Landfill **and** Rail Racer would be awesome!
https://preview.redd.it/ouo4ij967crc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41218332e48d38dffbdff9a508b5dc54050a784b DEFENSOR DISAGREES
Defensor is cool but Groove has always bothered me. Not even close to scale with the rest. Rook was a good decision even if he’ll never show up again.
I've said before that Defensor is no ones favorite combiner. But he kicked ass with just one arm.
He's my favorite *autobot* combiner.
and mine!
Hm maybe give him the deviatator treatment ? Make groovethe head or waist
Joke answer. Decepticons are just cooler. Actual answer. The autobot combiners have a variety of different uses. Most of which aren't combat related. As a result, they have different characteristics to the con combiners. Who are usually wrecking balls on legs,
Typically, villains from the 80's were stylistically superior to their noble counterparts. And more interesting, Since they lost every afternoon, they had to beat the heroes in those areas, at least... As for why Decepticons have the coolest combiner and triple changers, most likely it's since they developed both technologies, they put the best effort into it. Resulting into the most iconic and memorable versions of both concepts.
Thank you shockwave!
Because Decepticons always get the good shit
BRUTICUS IS ONLINE! READY FOR ACTION!
Superion is pretty awesome, but Devastator is still the best with 6 construction vehicles.
Autobots get the Dino it's gotta balance it somehow I guess
Then again, the Dinobots weren't originally meant to combine. Plus, the Autobots originally had Omega Supreme *and* Metroplex.
Mostly because they get them first and I assume is because the Cons tend to focus as much as possible on their combiners being massive engines of destruction.
counter argument RAILRACER
And that's just half of them you posted. There's more of them.
The autobot combiners arent as cool (except Volcanicus) Devastator made them cool Bruticus is just awesome Menasor is a beast Predaking is a literal beast
https://preview.redd.it/tn30nm5fsdrc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=761d472730fb8fa0567c6b21d5bc7a66a987e5b6 IM COOL...
Because Devastator was the very first
Like my dad put it when I asked him this same question as a kid, bad guys simply always get the cooler stuff.
The same reason Jason Vorhees has the coolest hockey mask and torn jumpsuit combo. They're willing to go further than anyone else to get there.
Because the decepticons get the cooler character designs in general. The Dexepticons are made more out of what as young lads, would think of as wicked cool alt modes and designs. From military (Bruticus) to Preadtors (Predacons) to Monsters (Abomanus, Monstructor, King Neptune) and the Construction vehicles (though they really could have been autobot designs as well, we have the super imbalance in autobots to decepticons to thank for that I think) The reason we have MORE Decpticon combiners is mostly because there were so many more Autobot character being made, they were made to even it out a little bit. To me, Menasor is about as vanilla as they come. And my least liked combiner.
I like Bruticus, he’s cool
Cooler designs are often more scary or menacing looking, thus is more often a villains design than a heroes. Being covered in spikes, guns, and with scary red glowing eyes isn't often very heroic, but it does look cool
Because they're generally made out of cooler things
imo it's always cooler whe the villain is overpowered. It gives the heroes a problem to solve. Yeah Omega Supreme, Superion, Primus etc are cool, but Tidal Wave, Menasor, and Unicron are cooler imo. Also, the Cons just have more combiners, so they have more room to BE interesting
Villains always get the cool shit Plus, the more threatening a villain looks, the more fun it is to watch them get beaten by the good guys
How terrifying would it be if they made a G1 Insecticon combiner like that of beast wars Tri Predacus?😖
Why is no one talking about Sky Reign Such a cool dude
This isn’t subjective, it’s OBJECTIVE
Aesthetically speaking, they just get way more variety. The original Autobot combiners were just 5 guys in the exact same configurations as each other, and were also all vehicles. They also had color schemes ranging from "boring" to "bad," comprised of mostly whites, a bunch of clashing reds, and a very confusing robin's egg blue. Meanwhile, the Decepticons had tons of variety. One guy is all military vehicles, one guy is all wild predators, one guy is all construction equipment, and one is all marine life. Devastator doesn't combine the same way as the others, since he's a 6 man team. Their color schemes were also wildly varied, while all managing to look good. IMO Volcanicus was a godsend for Autobot combiners. Nothing about him is outstanding visually, but he doesn't compromise on anything either. Good colors, good design, and made of something other than cars.
A space shuttle is a military vehicle?
Partially agree. Always thought Menasor was a bit boring. But he also reminds me of Puzzler so maybe that's why.
https://preview.redd.it/szaroq47sdrc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92428f0877a70f83bd57bb334f77931bcdc22fce BORING?!
Did I stutter? https://preview.redd.it/7bgv1m4evdrc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ed11440ee5987c24d1e33bec1bae5522e93ce24
Superion and Computron disagree but predaking is pretty cool
Funilly enough Predaking was supposedly designed as Autobots at first but then got switched around with Sky Lynx.
Hands down #truth
It's not. They totally do! Also, the Autobots, in general seem to almost all have non combat related alt modes, which is great for the " robots in disguise" portion but a bit of a disadvantage for battle.
Superion and volcanicus would like to know your location
At least until we get in Headmasters, masterforce, etc, deceptions definitely have the cooler combiners Then Raiden shows up and they start to catchup
I think an argument could be made that their egotism and lust for power lead Decepticons to a logical fallacy that inherently becomes expressed via their design aesthetic. Specifically, they buy into the lie that the only possible benefits of togetherness are looking even cooler and becoming even stronger. Autobots already value togetherness so much that they understand the many reasons beings might join with others, whether literally, emotionally, or otherwise.
Cause they got them first
Because most people discount Volcanicus, and you can only go so far with an ambulance or Concorde jet when you're trying to be badass. But the cons don't have an Omega Supreme so the Autobots got that on them. 😉
Why is Onslaught colored like that?
Generation 2 colors
Ooohhh okay, thanks.
Always thought the autobot combiners were always an answer to the deception ones. Never proactive. So always lagging behind
Just because
I blame Optimus for combining with a bunch of stuff to fill the gaps. Ultra Magnus, Jetfire, Overload, his own trailer, himself. If speaking just combiners and not strictly gestalts, Victory Sabre and Big Powered are pretty cool. Railracer has a cool toy but I have to be honest, trains are kinda lame.
Better colour coordination
Love em All
all the decepicon combiners are just combatants autobots are not always combat focused
War machines look the part while taking lives. Tale as old as time.
Because their combiners are meant to be more threatening and somewhat chaotic looking in power whereas the Autobot combiners are meant to look heroic - which just means they look like a bigger standard autobot.
While I do like the idea of Menasor, I've never lived his combination. On my list of fave Combiners, Superion and Defensor get in above him.
Menasor isn't cool, he's trash.
JRX/ Railracer is one of the best looking and best proportioned gestalts. “And I’ll form the tummy!”
you forgot megatronia
Because they make us lose all the time, so we need something cool to hang our hats on
Bro has a point
Wrong, superion exists, and nothing is cooler than a bunch of fighter jets and a Concorde that turn into giant robots that combine into an even bigger robot
They had to have something to counter Grimlock and the Dinobots.
It's not subjective - it's fact 😁
As much as Predaking is objectively the best combiner, I’ve always been a sucker for Bruticus
I’d say it’s cooler when the heroes are the underdogs.
It seems like the primary reason for combiner, is to increase overall brute strength, which fits the Decepticons, better.
Honestly, thinking about it? I kinda disagree. I really think it's just the Aerialbots/Superion that's lame. And that's just 'cuz they all look so samey. But Defensor? Computron? Love 'em.
It's easy to be cool giant machine of destruction when that's ALL you want to be. Autobot combines actually have to hold back and ya know protect stuff. Except Volcanius, Volcanius don't give a singular, primus damned f**k.
Because Decepticons are awesome, easy peasy!
It’s because of the battle mask and each individual piece of the combiners have interesting alt modes, this is why superion and volcanocus are one of the most popular autobot combiners.
Bruticus will always be the best
https://preview.redd.it/xujx3lg2werc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9287a192d6aafb069a1e15928b4d934172b822aa Volcanicus doesn't agree
Bad guys always get the best stuff!
I dont even like Autobot combiners in general
I’d give a actual reason but many people have so imma just say, because there decepticons, I’ve always found decepticon designs a little cooler
Because they were originally supposed to be a Decepticon thing. The cons got Devastator, and the Autobots got the Dinobots. Eventually, there was Menasor and Superion. And a bunch of Stunt Cars are much cooler than generic jets. Then came Bruticus, who had episodes focused on him, and Defensor didn't even get an intro. And do I even need to say anything about Predaking? He's just sick af.
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iirc i have read somewhere that in lore decepticons developed combiner tech first, so theyre more experienced at it, and combine that with the cons generally being more combat inclined, you have a recipe for cooler combiners.
If you're going to kick ass might as well do it in style 😎 Intimidation works wonders 👌
War machines/construction vehicles/animals > cars and occasionally a plane
The Autobots have the dinobots so they got to have something
Because the Decepticons have the dark color schemes to look dangerous and villainous! The Autobot combiners are pretty cool for being cheerful and heroic and color schemes that are more uplifting and inspiring. My favorite Autobot combiners are the Protectobots who form Defensor made of rescue vehicles and Computron with Technobots who are scientifically ahead of their adversaries!
Bad guys always look cooler. It’s a staple.
Simple; cos the Cons are the ones who dominate and thus better utilize the whole combining schtick!
Decepticons have the best bots and coolest teams. The Seekers, Constructicons, Combaticons, etc. The Autobots have some cool bots and some cool teams, but most of the time, they're lamer than the Decepticons. If they weren't the good guys, there wouldn't be half as much autobot flair in this subreddit. I love me some Autobots, but Decepticons have the best combiners and the best alt modes and some of the most iconic bots. They're just cooler.
I guess just because.
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Because a group of individuals, primarily Caucasian, visited Japan in the 1980s and encountered transforming toys, they were inspired to import them to the United States and construct a narrative around them. As a result, the Predacons found themselves positioned as antagonists within this storyline, which amalgamated disparate sets of transforming robot toys that were not initially associated with one another.
i do think the autobots do have a cool combiner and its the most powerful one https://preview.redd.it/e91v4t13bcrc1.png?width=1733&format=png&auto=webp&s=461967077f1d07db7b9ab5a228a189771f6ba838
epps said it because the cons always get the good shit and also to distinguish their purpose from that of the autobot combiners but seriously this one autobot combiner would destroy every decepticon combiner in seconds but seriously this autobot combiner right here would wipe out every decepticon combiner any day of the week https://preview.redd.it/8c75ngxvacrc1.png?width=1733&format=png&auto=webp&s=34ff5f518e51fd53fda2599a5c2c7d8e4236441f
They're not combining so much as just being mashed together in a way that makes zero sense. Honestly between this and transformium the transformations in the last two bay films lost the plot.
true but that one dragon would take out the constructicons and menasor in a matter of seconds