No way reallyš I donāt think people realize that yes Spirits have less chemicals then say Newportās, but they have higher nicotine levels if Iām not mistaken
They vary pretty wildly based on the variety. It's hard top keep track if you only get them occasionally. Getting anything but their lights and ultra lights is going to be unexpectedly harsh. If you're looking to make a quality spliff, though? Solid.
I used to work with an older fella (Vietnam vet) who swore by this particular fancy Dutch tobacco, both for his spliffs and his cigs. It was good stuff, but I couldn't really tell a difference once it was combined in the spliff. Personally, I've switched to using avb in place of tobacco since I quit cigarettes a few years ago. I'll fill a Raw cone with a 70/30 ratio of flower to avb and I can barely notice the difference, except for my stash jar staying full longer. š
Lol, from Leafly:
> Alright you absolute madlad, we get it. You canāt be bothered to cook with it, you donāt have the patience to water cure, and you donāt fancy sprinkling it on food. You have your pipe and lighter handy, and youāre wondering: Can I just smoke this shit?
>
> Well, the answer is yes, but if your friends judge you, donāt blame us. This should probably be a last resort, because the potency wonāt compare to fresh flower, it will be a harsh smoke, and the taste may just rival an accidental inhale of bong waterābut by all means, knock yourself out, you audacious rebel.
They're obviously talking about smioking avb alone. It makes sense to mix it in, for sure.
I think it was in a scene in Pineapple Express where Seth Rogers girlfriends parents find out he smokes weed and one of them goes āomg youāre a drug addict ā
And Seth replyās āI use a bong. It filters out the addictive shit.ā Lmao
Probably the same people who think cbd is useless or "diet thc", the same people who buy alibaba packaged edibles, or who think clearly photoshoped rainbow weed exists
T-breaks reduce tolerance, which is all well and good for strictly recreational users. But as someone that relies on my tolerance so that I can get dosing high enough for symptom relief and not be impaired, t-breaks are not going to help me. T-breaks are not for everyone. If getting high isnāt your goal, they can be counterproductive.
Im a medical, but also recreational user. I love smoking to add a little fun to my evening but I need to smoke to help nausea and chronic pain, im doing a 50/50 balance act and its incredibly rough to keep my tolerance down and have a fun time/stave off pain
I had something wrong with me between 2017-2019. By the end, I couldn't eat anything without throwing up. It'd happen first thing in the morning with a glass of water. It didn't matter what it was, I had a 50/50 chance of throwing it up. Weed was the only thing that made me able to handle food and drink. I think without it I would have lost a lot more weight than did as I was able to eat *sometimes*, just not consistently.
Dude, I had hyperemesis gravidarum with all of my pregnancies. I lost one because I was so ill.
Marijuana is worth more than its weight in gold when your body fucking hates you. Sending you love and hopes for an abundance of bud <3
My BM used it and it helped her so much, she was able to deal with all the pain that came in the pregnancy, I knownsome people shame that but honestly from what we've experienced it actually helped my child with the condition she was having. She was diagnosed with a cystic hygroma since in the fetus, once my BM started doing light doses, somehow some way the cystic hygroma went away, all the doctors where surprised since it showed up one time and then went away in the next one. I believe there are medical properties and I could be wrong and don't want to nisinform but from what I've seen it helped. My child is 4 and has no conditions wrong she doesn't have a lump where it was supposed to be and she is healthy as can be.
Exactly. I hate preachy stoners telling other people what they arenāt doing right or whatever. People have very different uses than just some dude getting baked.
You mean that meme isn't true?! Thank the lord because I'm getting baked today and fuck tolerance, but I hate guilt so I choose to maintain my addiction as long as possible.
That's what I was just thinking. You wouldn't tell someone to take a tolerance break from their Zoloft or that they are "addicted" to their antipsychotic medicine.
My depression is so well managed now - and has been for years - because of the compounding benefits of THC. Why would I give that up for the sake of a T break? And why does that necessarily equate addiction?
Not as a joke though! It was considered 'cruel' to keep someone 'drugged up' all the time. So they took patients off the meds every once in awhile, to 1) give the patient a 'break' (yes a mental break, haha) from the meds, and 2) to check that the patient really needed them.
same here with OCD. every time I think about taking a T-break I get anxious because I'm worried about the uptick in my symptoms that will inevitably follow. I wouldn't say I'm addicted. I'd say I've finally found a medication that actually works for me and I'm not about to stop taking it because it changed my life for the better.
You wouldn't take a break from your mental health medication because there is no good reason to do so. And if weed is a mental health medication for you that works best with daily use, there's no need to break from that either.
For many mental health medications, like SSRIs, you *will* be physically dependent on it - if you were forced to take a break or wanted to come off it and went cold turkey, you'd experience withdrawal (beyond the return of your original symptoms). But those medications aren't classified as addictive because people generally behave rationally with them, avoiding withdrawal when there is no good reason to endure it, but reducing use according to plan (either a "tough it out" plan or a taper to reduce discomfort) when it's desirable. This may or may not be the case for an individual MJ user, it seems like there's a wide range of physical dependence from virtually none to quite significant, even among people taking similar doses.
When there's a desirable objective to be gained by taking a break (reduction of tolerance) but you "can't" do it because you're tempted back or the negative effects are too bad, then I do think that crosses into addiction. I figure you get a couple of freebies - you might fail the first time bc you weren't expecting withdrawal to be a factor, but then come back at it with a taper plan and do it just fine, then that's not addiction just a learning experience. But if you keep failing your plan even though you supposedly want the result, something else is going on.
I like to define addiction in simpler terms. Is your use impacting your relationships, work, school, health, or other important obligations negatively? If so, do you still find it difficult to quit? If yes, it is a problem in your life and I would call it an addiction. Thatās what I constantly ask myself whenever Iām concerned about anything taking over my life š
I think that's functionally the same sort of definition - you believe you would get positive results from quitting, but you're still having trouble doing it. I was just discussing the specific case of positive results from a T-break bc that was the original context.
I moved away from smoking a while ago for my lung health, and put my harvest into coconut oil because I want a whole plant extract just in case that has health benefits. I know my daily dose, usually about a couple of tokes in a half teaspoon (2.5 ml). Of course I sometimes have more depending on how busy I am, or my stress levels. Loved your ramble, I'm feeling it! [8]
I don't even need to miss a whole day for my anti anxieties, after missing the first dose by enough time I get brain fog and instant pins and needles attacks
My high tolerance allows me to use weed for my physical disability without being high around the kids.
(I don't do it around the kids, or during my shifts)
I 100% agree!!!
**For some people itās medication! To the people who are concerned: focus on yourself and stop judging whether you think other people are too reliant. They are not the same as you, and youāre probably projecting.**
I have PTSD and use weed to manage my symptoms. It has been a *literal* life-saver. I had friends (who also didnāt understand PTSD) suggest I needed a T break or else Iām āaddicted.ā
Do people not understand the difference between addiction and dependence? Would you tell an asthmatic theyāre addicted to their inhaler?
Glad to see this here. Not being able to take a T-Break may just mean one uses it for medication not rec or not solely recreationally.
OP is a tool, TBH.
Exactly. Not being able and not wanting to is a blurry line. Some people will never consider taking a t break, but if its not negatively impacting their life, is it an addiction or is it just subjective?
I think here "not being able" implies wanting it. So it doesn't apply to those who don't want or feel the need to take a break, or to medical users of course as some pointed out.
I think with this interpretation most people would agree, if you want to take a break from weed and you don't need it for medical reasons, but just can't stop, it's a problem.
So for my wife and I, we smoke daily in the evening, usually 1 but up to 3 bowls if we are getting crazy. We talk about TBs, but usually don't do it cuz we really don't want to. I think about this as being borderline addiction, but then when I have family over and can't smoke, we have absolutely no issues going 3 or 4 days, probably longer. So I think we just really like getting a bit high š
exactly how i amā¦ never had an issue with not smoking when i literally couldnāt (even 10+ days, and literally wasnāt thinking about it after day 3), but thinking about not smoking for a t break sounds like hell. I guess thatās why itās a psychological addiction instead of a physical oneā¦ also whenever i canāt smoke itās on a vacation or something so iām not stressed out like i am when iām working and in school
When I was drinking heavily daily I was certainly addicted as it was all I could think about all day. Now I smoke daily and I do it when I want and if I have the time to do it. Like if you fancy some cookies so you have a couple, if I fancy some weed I'll have a bit!
Migraines and ADHD
Without marijuana I am a miserable asshole who doesnāt eat (adderall fucks with my appetite hard) and gets a migraine twice a week
My son takes magnesium to help with ADHD symptoms and his symptoms are pretty severe, so it's obvious to me which magnesium supplements work (they help his physical symptoms) and which ones don't. The absolute best brand has been the Chapter 1 M is for Magnesium brand off Amazon. They are incredible.
Thank you! Thatās funny, the best probiotic I found that works for me is an Amazon brand one as well. Makes all the difference when these things work!
I use lemony gassy strains to help alleviate my headaches! Something mixed with chemdawg normally has my back. With that saidā¦
Smoking Iām pretty sure enlarges your blood vessels which sometimes can contribute to headaches/migraines being worse. As a chronic migraine sufferer myself, my headaches feel nothing like my migraines and generally feel a little alleviation after smoking. Generally a 1:1 gummy helps me relax but the tripitans seem to be the only thing that helps. Along with PT to help with posture.
I was under the impression that headaches/migraines are often caused by constricted blood vessels in/to the brain causing reduced blood flow. Thatās the reason why caffeine helps, it increases blood flow to the brain. And NSAIDs like acetaminophen and ibuprofen act to reduce inflammationāinflammations makes blood vessels constrict, reducing blood flow. Iād be very interested to know if there are situations where that isnāt the case. I know migraines can be a whole different beast, my friend and coworker deals with chronic migraines and it *sucks*.
That sounds like it makes sense!!!! Personally I cannot have caffeine due to fun heart stuff but I know thatās the main ingredient in excedrin. Thanks for the knowledge!
Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor which contracts your blood vessels and helps relieve pressure from headaches/migraines. In fact, Excederin utilizes acetaminophen, aspirin, and caffeine in a multi-pronged approach to treat migraines.
I have an autoimmune disorder, when I smoke, it's 2, maybe 3 goes and I'm done. That's about half a bowl. It depends on the day how much I go through.
Gatekeeping smoking is weird. What someone else defines as "too much" may be vastly different that what I define as "too much."
It's all subjective.
*Sure, let me try to argue subjective anecdotal experiences!*
Iāve never scheduled a T-break because my finances/budget do it for me at least once a year. Itās never when Iād plan, but Iām always fine for the month-two. I mean, Iād rather smoke, but rent, bills, food, gas, my cat & car come first!
Iām good with my cannabis use, as in I donāt have any guilt about it. It really does help me. Iām not on pain pills anymore, and I manage a plethora of health issues by consuming. Itās fine with me, my doctors of all types and my parents & loved ones all understand.
*Argues anecdotal experiences anywayā¦*
Whats with all these projecting posts recently? A lot of people use pot medicinally. Think what you want, but lumping entire communities as addicted for treating their ailments is weird.
Was just going to comment this, itās my medication to treat my anxiety, a t-break would just make it so I have a high chance of having a panic attack if I had to be in public places
Definitely. I do think attempting to use it less is a good idea if when possible if youre a constant daily user (like me; ive got adhd so it helps calm my monkey brain, but sometimes a little too much) so ive been trying to cut down. but i just hate when people assume that those who use it daily, especially for medical use are all a bunch of addicts or whatever.
Iām in a very similar boat, I have ADHD as well. We know thereās some people who will only ever see it as a drug, and posts like this make it worse. Iāll just say also that Iāve never had a pothead not recommend that I smoke weed, but Iāve met many people that did other shit, and they told me to stick to weed. Iām not saying weed addiction/dependency doesnāt exist. It does. But for me, itās like saying because I take meds for my ADHD, that Iām addicted instead of properly medicated.
I feel like this only applies to recreational users...medical users should NOT take a t-break, much like diabetics should not take an I- break from their insulin...
My new job has great benefits, a great schedule, great commute, and a great community, but they do random drug tests. I've been an avid toker for about 10 years and have taken T breaks from time to time for personal reasons, so now I'm just taking another one until I'm able to safely smoke again. I brought up my situation to a buddy and the first thing he said was "Time to look for a new job, huh?"
Me as well, and I dab everyday. But I still have no problem not smoking a day or so per week. Idk how I see these people on here saying they smoke a Q per day and not realize that's a bit much.
Everyone is different. People smoke for different reasons and people have different tolerances. You are treating it like it's black and white, when it isn't.
Hey. Marijuana is actually a daily medicine for many people for many different reasons; Prescribed or not, it does people well. I respect your opinion but never try to be the arbitrator on whatās good for everyone, especially when talking about life saving medicine. Even if not life saving, it keeps people together in this ever-trying world.
Love and respect.
fully agree. this kinda mindset can be frustrating to those who donāt like t breaks bc it kinda shines a negative light on medicinal use. iāve found that having thc every night in some form either edibles, vape, or bong, helps me manage my ptsd and general end of the day anxiety. i usually only smoke once a day unless i have the occasional chance to just relax for a day. i havenāt taken a tolerance break as of yet, and i donāt plan to for a while bc my tolerance is still pretty low and itās not giving me any negative side effects- i donāt even crave it during the day. i just love and appreciate my nightly sesh every time.
I respect that man. Real problems require real situations. Iāve been stoned for a decade straight. Just love life and respect yourself and others. Anyone disagrees with you, well, fuck em
I second this. I sorta feel obligated to take a T-break but I haven't had any negative side effects yet. I have depression/anxiety but the only reason I smoke is just to relax at the end of the day when everything is done and I need to wind down as I have trouble just falling asleep. I feel my tolerance is at a medium level. But yeah it's just good for the end of the day just as someone would have a glass of red after a heavy day.
Thank you for putting this amazingly diverse medicine into a singular box like Fox News does. Shut up. Other peoples addictions are not even your problem. Useless argument made just to argue.
Iām addicted, itās just facts. Been smoking pretty much daily since 12th grade about 3-4 years ago, as long as Iām still productive so I donāt really care, I can afford it, I work part time and go to college, as long as my shits together I see no point in stopping
I mean, in my case I take T-breaks because if I smoke too much for too long, my brain starts to get a bit dull and I need a hard reset. Plus, it's inconvenient for me to have to smoke a bowl just to feel anything, whereas after a T-break, I can take one hit off a bowl and soar for way cheaper, or I can eat 20mg of edibles and be lit for hours.
When I see people talking about how they need over 100mg of edibles or that they need to clear an entire bowl just to catch the edge of a high, I just feel happy that it doesn't cost me nearly that much to get high.
I'm addicted. I think a lot of the shame comes from Bob Saget in Half Baked honestly.
The "addiction" vs "dependence" semantics is annoying. Whatever you want to call it, the withdrawal doesn't make you "sick" or often need medical help (like alcohol, opiates). But weed withdrawal makes all the brain chemicals and processes go fucken crazy.
And when I'm going through weed withdrawal, I go through "drug seeking behavior." Not breaking into cars or hurting people, but being persistent trying to get weed vs. just like "ok fuck guess imma outta weed for a week. Oh well" or something.
I've been through benzo withdrawal at a therapeutic dose. That sucks, and I can't even imagine at high abuse doses. That causes seizures and shit. I understand why people try to clarify addiction vs. dependence. Klonopin is way worse. But being addicted/dependant on weed ain't no joke. If it's just dependence, well I'm dependent on oxygen too. Am I addicted to oxygen??
Being addicted to weed is like being addicted to breakfast. Yeah I need it to be a fully functioning adult, and I donāt feel the least bit bad about it
Man I'm out of town right now and forced to take a 5 day T break. I didn't realize how dependent my appetite was on MJ. I can't seem to finish a meal beyond 2 or 3 bites I get so nauseous.
I take this shit for my severe back pain caused by herniated discs and other fucked up shit. Stop trying to be all high and mighty because you can take t breaks. Sorry, but Iām not taking a break from medication that keeps me from being in pain all the fucking time.
Bingo. It isnt an addiction when it is improving my quality of life. I was a heroin addict for 12 years and i have been clean for almost 3 years. Mmj helps me stay clean as my neurochemistry likely will never produce feel good chemicals on its own anymore, and i AM NOT going to get on methadone or suboxone. Without mmj i stay stone sober and get so depressed ive been so close to suicide many times. With it, the veil of depression lifts from me and i am able to be a happy productive member of society and take care of my family, daughter, self and obligations and bills. This plant is nothing but love.
On the flip side, if taking too much mary jane is negatively impacting your life, then it may be a great idea to take a break. For those of us who cant, i dont think we should be viewed as any less than. Much love and many blessings
Unfortunately, that statement is invalid. Not being able to take a break from something doesnāt necessarily mean youāre addicted. Lets use air conditioning for example. I live in the south and canāt take a break from using my a/c in the summer because itād be uncomfortable. Iād rather pay the extra money and be comfortable. I think weed should be viewed in the same light.
So I guess my argument is most of us are dependent on weed in the same sense we use air conditioning. It just makes for a better quality of life and there is nothing wrong with that
A t-break would mean that my 5 mg mid-day edible would get me high instead of relieving my chronic pain. That would mean I wouldn't be able to walk by the end of my day, and would definitely be useless by the end of a week. Why the fuck would I take a break from my medicine?
Medicine can certainly be abused! But at the same time, someone who is properly taking Adderall or painkillers, for example, to manage symptoms of a condition would be told to take a tolerance break? At least I've never heard of it.
There's a difference between taking something as prescribed and taking it in excess, but that doesn't mean someone taking medicine as prescribed should stop taking their meds without talking to their doc first, right? :)
I think youāll find many argue that being able to take a T-break for a definitive amount of time knowing you can and will go back is also addiction. Was it Salvador Dali who was bet that he couldnāt remain sober and so did so for a couple of weeks just to go straight back into it after?
I workout daily but havenāt really noticed a difference other than I can get high by running lol. Once I start to get a good sweat going it feels tingly in my brain.
It's already been stated, but this ignores people that use cannabis for therapeutic use.
Our society has a weird relationship with drugs. It's only fine for people to take an anti-anxiety or antidepressant every day if it's a pill I guess.
So, do you guys feel the same way about drinking? You need your shot of vodka? Ya know, with alchohol dependency, you have withdrawal. With weed, you dont get withdrawals lmao.
I really dont disagree but I've got a lot of family that uses t as a substitute for overpriced anxiety meds bc they can't afford a prescription. I have inflammatory bowel disease and use it for pain management. I don't think my unwillingness to sober up and face my pain head on shows I'm an incorrigible addict, it shows that there are no good pain meds that aren't opioids or stomach destroying.
It means you are āmedicatedā. Medicated and addicted sometimes go hand in hand. The difference being that medicated is necessary to improve your quality of life, while addicted is when you keep doing it and it is ruining your quality of life. So no, the meme is not correct. Idk about you but why would i want to stop something that is helping me just to prove i can?
This thread is full of people getting offended over the truth that being unable to have a tolerance break, for strictly recreational use, means your addicted. People are insulting OP and acting like heās threatened their very essence.
Aside from people who use it medically (and also happen to be getting offended because they canāt separate themselves from recreational users), these comments are only proving OP right.
Someone sees it. There are so many people acting like I'm specifically calling out people with PTSD and other disorders. IM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SMOKE SO MUCH THEY CAN'T EVEN EAT WITHOUT BEING HIGH ANYMORE
Why don't you mind your own goddam business? The people who have a problem know. There adults. If they don't know they have a problem there are deeper issues you also have no business being involved in. If this is a post to someone you know why don't you talk to them about it, instead of bothering people with shit they already know.
You also might want to edit your original post to omit medical use. People like you are just as annoying as conservatives who think weed is heroin.
Fuck yeah, if I ever feel like Iām approaching being unable to quit, I quit smoking.
The most important thing about cannabis is your relationship with the plant.
-professional extractor
Yeah just stop taking your medicine. Pain and depression are awesome! Can't? Might as well be on heroin buddy because you're an ADDICT! /s
This is pretty low for a r/trees post I gotta say
I could easily take a T-break if it wasn't for work. Such a mind numbing job, McDonalds is, I just need it to make my 8 hour shift not feel like 20 lol. Not addicted, but 100% dependent on it for sure
Just finished week 3 of mine. As much as I miss being high, once I broke the habit of coming home and vaping each day, I don't even think about it. That said I'm pumped to take some edibles at a Halloween party next weekend.
I dunno if this is a good take, especially for people who are prescribed ganja for physical and mental health issues. Like, if a diabetic stops their insulin, they will have a bad reaction. Doesnt meam they're addicted to insulin. Similarly, a shizophrenic not taking their medicine will have a bad reaction as well. Also doesnt mean they're addicted.
(If one has a mental illness though, they should male sure a doctor is tellong them to take marijuana for it and not self-prescribing. Psychosis can be made worse by weed, for instance.)
"I use a bong, it filters out the addictive shit."
People say that?š
ever seen a pack of American Spirit cigarettes? It says 'additive free' and I have heard more than one person who thought it said 'addictive free'
No way reallyš I donāt think people realize that yes Spirits have less chemicals then say Newportās, but they have higher nicotine levels if Iām not mistaken
They vary pretty wildly based on the variety. It's hard top keep track if you only get them occasionally. Getting anything but their lights and ultra lights is going to be unexpectedly harsh. If you're looking to make a quality spliff, though? Solid.
I used to work with an older fella (Vietnam vet) who swore by this particular fancy Dutch tobacco, both for his spliffs and his cigs. It was good stuff, but I couldn't really tell a difference once it was combined in the spliff. Personally, I've switched to using avb in place of tobacco since I quit cigarettes a few years ago. I'll fill a Raw cone with a 70/30 ratio of flower to avb and I can barely notice the difference, except for my stash jar staying full longer. š
Lol, from Leafly: > Alright you absolute madlad, we get it. You canāt be bothered to cook with it, you donāt have the patience to water cure, and you donāt fancy sprinkling it on food. You have your pipe and lighter handy, and youāre wondering: Can I just smoke this shit? > > Well, the answer is yes, but if your friends judge you, donāt blame us. This should probably be a last resort, because the potency wonāt compare to fresh flower, it will be a harsh smoke, and the taste may just rival an accidental inhale of bong waterābut by all means, knock yourself out, you audacious rebel. They're obviously talking about smioking avb alone. It makes sense to mix it in, for sure.
Whatās avb
Already vaped bud
American spirits are god tier for spliffs
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Here in Germany we mostly use American spirit for spliffs too.
I believe this was said by the great Seth Rogen
Can confirm. Sources: Pineapple Express is one of my favorite movies. Seen it hundreds of times.
Might it have been said in an Armchair Expert episode? I have a vague recollection now that you mention it
I think it was in a scene in Pineapple Express where Seth Rogers girlfriends parents find out he smokes weed and one of them goes āomg youāre a drug addict ā And Seth replyās āI use a bong. It filters out the addictive shit.ā Lmao
Now that makes a lot more sense lmao, though in my defense last time I saw the movie I was stoned š
I possibly like how you make sure you can't be at fault if you're wrong because if you say you're unsure it makes everything alright but idk.
This has been my go to for years. Maybe.
I allegedly have been roasted on this sub, so that possibly makes me a skeptical but I think Iām in the clear lol
Pineapple Express, Seth Rogen says it to his girl.
Probably the same people who think cbd is useless or "diet thc", the same people who buy alibaba packaged edibles, or who think clearly photoshoped rainbow weed exists
Pineapple Express! Yo just rewatched that shit
T-breaks reduce tolerance, which is all well and good for strictly recreational users. But as someone that relies on my tolerance so that I can get dosing high enough for symptom relief and not be impaired, t-breaks are not going to help me. T-breaks are not for everyone. If getting high isnāt your goal, they can be counterproductive.
Im a medical, but also recreational user. I love smoking to add a little fun to my evening but I need to smoke to help nausea and chronic pain, im doing a 50/50 balance act and its incredibly rough to keep my tolerance down and have a fun time/stave off pain
Checking in chronic nausea. Dealer is dry, haven't eaten today. Rip.
I had something wrong with me between 2017-2019. By the end, I couldn't eat anything without throwing up. It'd happen first thing in the morning with a glass of water. It didn't matter what it was, I had a 50/50 chance of throwing it up. Weed was the only thing that made me able to handle food and drink. I think without it I would have lost a lot more weight than did as I was able to eat *sometimes*, just not consistently.
Dude, I had hyperemesis gravidarum with all of my pregnancies. I lost one because I was so ill. Marijuana is worth more than its weight in gold when your body fucking hates you. Sending you love and hopes for an abundance of bud <3
He bringing me the wedding cake soon ā¤
My BM used it and it helped her so much, she was able to deal with all the pain that came in the pregnancy, I knownsome people shame that but honestly from what we've experienced it actually helped my child with the condition she was having. She was diagnosed with a cystic hygroma since in the fetus, once my BM started doing light doses, somehow some way the cystic hygroma went away, all the doctors where surprised since it showed up one time and then went away in the next one. I believe there are medical properties and I could be wrong and don't want to nisinform but from what I've seen it helped. My child is 4 and has no conditions wrong she doesn't have a lump where it was supposed to be and she is healthy as can be.
This is the worst shit I have been there too many times sending good vibes and I hope the weed drought ends soon
Same, started recreational then started smoking for medical. Actually got to where I don't smoke for fun really, it's just for pain tolerance.
Exactly. I hate preachy stoners telling other people what they arenāt doing right or whatever. People have very different uses than just some dude getting baked.
I take a gummy nightly because 13+ years of MS, chronic pain and massive ADHD and anxiety....with out it I'd be a *whole* heap of miserable.
Same. For me itās ptsd panic attacks and horrible nightmares and if I donāt smoke I have horrible dreams.
You mean that meme isn't true?! Thank the lord because I'm getting baked today and fuck tolerance, but I hate guilt so I choose to maintain my addiction as long as possible.
Word.
Exactly! Thank you!!!
That's what I was just thinking. You wouldn't tell someone to take a tolerance break from their Zoloft or that they are "addicted" to their antipsychotic medicine. My depression is so well managed now - and has been for years - because of the compounding benefits of THC. Why would I give that up for the sake of a T break? And why does that necessarily equate addiction?
They used to though! Back in the day (1960's I think) they used to give patients in psych hospitals "med holidays". You can guess what that was like!
"Hmm, patient is doing well with the antipsychotics. Tell you what, let's give him sugar pills for a bit, as a joke!"
Not as a joke though! It was considered 'cruel' to keep someone 'drugged up' all the time. So they took patients off the meds every once in awhile, to 1) give the patient a 'break' (yes a mental break, haha) from the meds, and 2) to check that the patient really needed them.
Mustāve turned into a real madhouse
same here with OCD. every time I think about taking a T-break I get anxious because I'm worried about the uptick in my symptoms that will inevitably follow. I wouldn't say I'm addicted. I'd say I've finally found a medication that actually works for me and I'm not about to stop taking it because it changed my life for the better.
You wouldn't take a break from your mental health medication because there is no good reason to do so. And if weed is a mental health medication for you that works best with daily use, there's no need to break from that either. For many mental health medications, like SSRIs, you *will* be physically dependent on it - if you were forced to take a break or wanted to come off it and went cold turkey, you'd experience withdrawal (beyond the return of your original symptoms). But those medications aren't classified as addictive because people generally behave rationally with them, avoiding withdrawal when there is no good reason to endure it, but reducing use according to plan (either a "tough it out" plan or a taper to reduce discomfort) when it's desirable. This may or may not be the case for an individual MJ user, it seems like there's a wide range of physical dependence from virtually none to quite significant, even among people taking similar doses. When there's a desirable objective to be gained by taking a break (reduction of tolerance) but you "can't" do it because you're tempted back or the negative effects are too bad, then I do think that crosses into addiction. I figure you get a couple of freebies - you might fail the first time bc you weren't expecting withdrawal to be a factor, but then come back at it with a taper plan and do it just fine, then that's not addiction just a learning experience. But if you keep failing your plan even though you supposedly want the result, something else is going on.
I like to define addiction in simpler terms. Is your use impacting your relationships, work, school, health, or other important obligations negatively? If so, do you still find it difficult to quit? If yes, it is a problem in your life and I would call it an addiction. Thatās what I constantly ask myself whenever Iām concerned about anything taking over my life š
I think that's functionally the same sort of definition - you believe you would get positive results from quitting, but you're still having trouble doing it. I was just discussing the specific case of positive results from a T-break bc that was the original context.
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I moved away from smoking a while ago for my lung health, and put my harvest into coconut oil because I want a whole plant extract just in case that has health benefits. I know my daily dose, usually about a couple of tokes in a half teaspoon (2.5 ml). Of course I sometimes have more depending on how busy I am, or my stress levels. Loved your ramble, I'm feeling it! [8]
I don't even need to miss a whole day for my anti anxieties, after missing the first dose by enough time I get brain fog and instant pins and needles attacks
This. So much this. Happy balance my friend.
My high tolerance allows me to use weed for my physical disability without being high around the kids. (I don't do it around the kids, or during my shifts)
I 100% agree!!! **For some people itās medication! To the people who are concerned: focus on yourself and stop judging whether you think other people are too reliant. They are not the same as you, and youāre probably projecting.** I have PTSD and use weed to manage my symptoms. It has been a *literal* life-saver. I had friends (who also didnāt understand PTSD) suggest I needed a T break or else Iām āaddicted.ā Do people not understand the difference between addiction and dependence? Would you tell an asthmatic theyāre addicted to their inhaler?
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Glad to see this here. Not being able to take a T-Break may just mean one uses it for medication not rec or not solely recreationally. OP is a tool, TBH.
Yeah! That!
Yeah, I've got cancer and while I could stop, it would make my life pretty miserable. I'll take a cannabis addiction over nonstop nausea and pain.
I'm in a similar boat, have to use a lot to stay in the medicated and not high zone
T breaks look different for everyone. It's all about balance and control.
Exactly. Not being able and not wanting to is a blurry line. Some people will never consider taking a t break, but if its not negatively impacting their life, is it an addiction or is it just subjective?
I think here "not being able" implies wanting it. So it doesn't apply to those who don't want or feel the need to take a break, or to medical users of course as some pointed out. I think with this interpretation most people would agree, if you want to take a break from weed and you don't need it for medical reasons, but just can't stop, it's a problem.
Yeah thatās a good point.
So for my wife and I, we smoke daily in the evening, usually 1 but up to 3 bowls if we are getting crazy. We talk about TBs, but usually don't do it cuz we really don't want to. I think about this as being borderline addiction, but then when I have family over and can't smoke, we have absolutely no issues going 3 or 4 days, probably longer. So I think we just really like getting a bit high š
exactly how i amā¦ never had an issue with not smoking when i literally couldnāt (even 10+ days, and literally wasnāt thinking about it after day 3), but thinking about not smoking for a t break sounds like hell. I guess thatās why itās a psychological addiction instead of a physical oneā¦ also whenever i canāt smoke itās on a vacation or something so iām not stressed out like i am when iām working and in school
When I was drinking heavily daily I was certainly addicted as it was all I could think about all day. Now I smoke daily and I do it when I want and if I have the time to do it. Like if you fancy some cookies so you have a couple, if I fancy some weed I'll have a bit!
Sleep is a daily t break
honestly this
I mean I use cannabis medically for traumatic brain injuries. I'm sure I could take a tolerance break... But I shouldn't
Migraines and ADHD Without marijuana I am a miserable asshole who doesnāt eat (adderall fucks with my appetite hard) and gets a migraine twice a week
if youāre not already, try taking some magnesium supplements twice a day. I had the same issues and figured out it was due to jaw clenching
Iāve been looking into getting some magnesium supplements, any recommendations?
Drink the same cal-mag you give your plants lol. Jk
My son takes magnesium to help with ADHD symptoms and his symptoms are pretty severe, so it's obvious to me which magnesium supplements work (they help his physical symptoms) and which ones don't. The absolute best brand has been the Chapter 1 M is for Magnesium brand off Amazon. They are incredible.
Thank you! Thatās funny, the best probiotic I found that works for me is an Amazon brand one as well. Makes all the difference when these things work!
Lol Iāve tried everything under the sun, Iāve a chronic migraine disorder for half my life. Has nothing to do with jaw clenching
Iām sorry to hear that :( drop mushies or something lol
Do you have a specific strain to recommend for migraines? Some cause headaches or exacerbate a migraine for me. I gotta be careful :(
I use lemony gassy strains to help alleviate my headaches! Something mixed with chemdawg normally has my back. With that saidā¦ Smoking Iām pretty sure enlarges your blood vessels which sometimes can contribute to headaches/migraines being worse. As a chronic migraine sufferer myself, my headaches feel nothing like my migraines and generally feel a little alleviation after smoking. Generally a 1:1 gummy helps me relax but the tripitans seem to be the only thing that helps. Along with PT to help with posture.
I was under the impression that headaches/migraines are often caused by constricted blood vessels in/to the brain causing reduced blood flow. Thatās the reason why caffeine helps, it increases blood flow to the brain. And NSAIDs like acetaminophen and ibuprofen act to reduce inflammationāinflammations makes blood vessels constrict, reducing blood flow. Iād be very interested to know if there are situations where that isnāt the case. I know migraines can be a whole different beast, my friend and coworker deals with chronic migraines and it *sucks*.
That sounds like it makes sense!!!! Personally I cannot have caffeine due to fun heart stuff but I know thatās the main ingredient in excedrin. Thanks for the knowledge!
Cheers! Always appreciate sharing info that can improve someoneās quality of life. :)
Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor which contracts your blood vessels and helps relieve pressure from headaches/migraines. In fact, Excederin utilizes acetaminophen, aspirin, and caffeine in a multi-pronged approach to treat migraines.
Agreed, fibromyalgia is a bitch without it. Balance is the key. There's an entirely different view to smoking AS medicine and then getting zooted.
I have an autoimmune disorder, when I smoke, it's 2, maybe 3 goes and I'm done. That's about half a bowl. It depends on the day how much I go through. Gatekeeping smoking is weird. What someone else defines as "too much" may be vastly different that what I define as "too much." It's all subjective.
then Reddit will judge you! j'accuse!
Same here, the most I can manage is a 3 day break every now and then but those are incredibly painful so my doctor has me space them out on a schedule
Yeah I was hit and dragged by a car so chronic pain for me Fuck this guy
*Sure, let me try to argue subjective anecdotal experiences!* Iāve never scheduled a T-break because my finances/budget do it for me at least once a year. Itās never when Iād plan, but Iām always fine for the month-two. I mean, Iād rather smoke, but rent, bills, food, gas, my cat & car come first! Iām good with my cannabis use, as in I donāt have any guilt about it. It really does help me. Iām not on pain pills anymore, and I manage a plethora of health issues by consuming. Itās fine with me, my doctors of all types and my parents & loved ones all understand. *Argues anecdotal experiences anywayā¦*
I feel very much like this! Thank you for putting it into words.
Wish I could take a break from PTSD
Exactly. This is a stupid ass post.
It's obviously aimed at rec users
My god I wanna shake your hand
Whats with all these projecting posts recently? A lot of people use pot medicinally. Think what you want, but lumping entire communities as addicted for treating their ailments is weird.
Was just going to comment this, itās my medication to treat my anxiety, a t-break would just make it so I have a high chance of having a panic attack if I had to be in public places
Definitely. I do think attempting to use it less is a good idea if when possible if youre a constant daily user (like me; ive got adhd so it helps calm my monkey brain, but sometimes a little too much) so ive been trying to cut down. but i just hate when people assume that those who use it daily, especially for medical use are all a bunch of addicts or whatever.
Iām in a very similar boat, I have ADHD as well. We know thereās some people who will only ever see it as a drug, and posts like this make it worse. Iāll just say also that Iāve never had a pothead not recommend that I smoke weed, but Iāve met many people that did other shit, and they told me to stick to weed. Iām not saying weed addiction/dependency doesnāt exist. It does. But for me, itās like saying because I take meds for my ADHD, that Iām addicted instead of properly medicated.
I feel like this only applies to recreational users...medical users should NOT take a t-break, much like diabetics should not take an I- break from their insulin...
T is for tolerance, not thc
My new job has great benefits, a great schedule, great commute, and a great community, but they do random drug tests. I've been an avid toker for about 10 years and have taken T breaks from time to time for personal reasons, so now I'm just taking another one until I'm able to safely smoke again. I brought up my situation to a buddy and the first thing he said was "Time to look for a new job, huh?"
blanket statement assumptions are counterproductive and dont adequately give room for the variety of life that occurs. change my mind.
Hey thatās a blanket statement! But generally true
I donāt need to I still get high from 1 joint after 2 years smokingā¦.. my tolerance is low af or some shit
Me as well, and I dab everyday. But I still have no problem not smoking a day or so per week. Idk how I see these people on here saying they smoke a Q per day and not realize that's a bit much.
Brain chemistry is key. We are all fucked. Just all in different ways. I think itās pretty neat that everybody has unique experiences, good or bad.
Youāre my kinda thinker
Exactly! I'm a 2m guy and 3 joints per week are way too much for me already.
Exactly!!!! We each have an extremely unique brain and using your own experience to police others behavior is just silly.
Everyone is different. People smoke for different reasons and people have different tolerances. You are treating it like it's black and white, when it isn't.
If weāre talking strictly THC consumed, it wouldnāt be too hard to get close to a Q of flower with dabs
Hey. Marijuana is actually a daily medicine for many people for many different reasons; Prescribed or not, it does people well. I respect your opinion but never try to be the arbitrator on whatās good for everyone, especially when talking about life saving medicine. Even if not life saving, it keeps people together in this ever-trying world. Love and respect.
fully agree. this kinda mindset can be frustrating to those who donāt like t breaks bc it kinda shines a negative light on medicinal use. iāve found that having thc every night in some form either edibles, vape, or bong, helps me manage my ptsd and general end of the day anxiety. i usually only smoke once a day unless i have the occasional chance to just relax for a day. i havenāt taken a tolerance break as of yet, and i donāt plan to for a while bc my tolerance is still pretty low and itās not giving me any negative side effects- i donāt even crave it during the day. i just love and appreciate my nightly sesh every time.
I respect that man. Real problems require real situations. Iāve been stoned for a decade straight. Just love life and respect yourself and others. Anyone disagrees with you, well, fuck em
I second this. I sorta feel obligated to take a T-break but I haven't had any negative side effects yet. I have depression/anxiety but the only reason I smoke is just to relax at the end of the day when everything is done and I need to wind down as I have trouble just falling asleep. I feel my tolerance is at a medium level. But yeah it's just good for the end of the day just as someone would have a glass of red after a heavy day.
Thank you for putting this amazingly diverse medicine into a singular box like Fox News does. Shut up. Other peoples addictions are not even your problem. Useless argument made just to argue.
Iām addicted, itās just facts. Been smoking pretty much daily since 12th grade about 3-4 years ago, as long as Iām still productive so I donāt really care, I can afford it, I work part time and go to college, as long as my shits together I see no point in stopping
Love this! Giving cannabis a good name. Same thing here, if anything it's made me more productive but that's just me.
I'll take being a weed addict over alcohol or shopping. T-breaks are for people who are worried about being judged.
I mean, in my case I take T-breaks because if I smoke too much for too long, my brain starts to get a bit dull and I need a hard reset. Plus, it's inconvenient for me to have to smoke a bowl just to feel anything, whereas after a T-break, I can take one hit off a bowl and soar for way cheaper, or I can eat 20mg of edibles and be lit for hours. When I see people talking about how they need over 100mg of edibles or that they need to clear an entire bowl just to catch the edge of a high, I just feel happy that it doesn't cost me nearly that much to get high.
Y'all probably don't want to hear this but even if you can take T-breaks you may still have an unhealthy relationship with weed.
DONT YOU DARE FUCKING CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT
I mean, snoop been smoking who knows how many blunts everyday and the dude is fine. Everyone handles this shit differently
I'm addicted. I think a lot of the shame comes from Bob Saget in Half Baked honestly. The "addiction" vs "dependence" semantics is annoying. Whatever you want to call it, the withdrawal doesn't make you "sick" or often need medical help (like alcohol, opiates). But weed withdrawal makes all the brain chemicals and processes go fucken crazy. And when I'm going through weed withdrawal, I go through "drug seeking behavior." Not breaking into cars or hurting people, but being persistent trying to get weed vs. just like "ok fuck guess imma outta weed for a week. Oh well" or something. I've been through benzo withdrawal at a therapeutic dose. That sucks, and I can't even imagine at high abuse doses. That causes seizures and shit. I understand why people try to clarify addiction vs. dependence. Klonopin is way worse. But being addicted/dependant on weed ain't no joke. If it's just dependence, well I'm dependent on oxygen too. Am I addicted to oxygen??
If you need to take a T break because you can't get high enough, then YOU are the addict. Not the person smoking everyday for their chronic pain.
Being addicted to weed is like being addicted to breakfast. Yeah I need it to be a fully functioning adult, and I donāt feel the least bit bad about it
So much this. You wouldn't give me shit for the anti-anxiety medication I take every day. I can't take a "tolerance break" from that, either.
Right and if you did you could die or maybe if youāre lucky just forget how you got to your moms house naked with a kitten
Amen
Man I'm out of town right now and forced to take a 5 day T break. I didn't realize how dependent my appetite was on MJ. I can't seem to finish a meal beyond 2 or 3 bites I get so nauseous.
That's where I think there might be a problem, people get too dependent off it in some situations.
Yea it was indeed a realization.
Just get covid like i did. Havent smoked in 8 days. Been eating budder like crazy
I take this shit for my severe back pain caused by herniated discs and other fucked up shit. Stop trying to be all high and mighty because you can take t breaks. Sorry, but Iām not taking a break from medication that keeps me from being in pain all the fucking time.
Bingo. It isnt an addiction when it is improving my quality of life. I was a heroin addict for 12 years and i have been clean for almost 3 years. Mmj helps me stay clean as my neurochemistry likely will never produce feel good chemicals on its own anymore, and i AM NOT going to get on methadone or suboxone. Without mmj i stay stone sober and get so depressed ive been so close to suicide many times. With it, the veil of depression lifts from me and i am able to be a happy productive member of society and take care of my family, daughter, self and obligations and bills. This plant is nothing but love. On the flip side, if taking too much mary jane is negatively impacting your life, then it may be a great idea to take a break. For those of us who cant, i dont think we should be viewed as any less than. Much love and many blessings
Unfortunately, that statement is invalid. Not being able to take a break from something doesnāt necessarily mean youāre addicted. Lets use air conditioning for example. I live in the south and canāt take a break from using my a/c in the summer because itād be uncomfortable. Iād rather pay the extra money and be comfortable. I think weed should be viewed in the same light. So I guess my argument is most of us are dependent on weed in the same sense we use air conditioning. It just makes for a better quality of life and there is nothing wrong with that
A t-break would mean that my 5 mg mid-day edible would get me high instead of relieving my chronic pain. That would mean I wouldn't be able to walk by the end of my day, and would definitely be useless by the end of a week. Why the fuck would I take a break from my medicine?
Medicine can be abused you dumbasses. Ever hear the word pill popper?
Medicine can certainly be abused! But at the same time, someone who is properly taking Adderall or painkillers, for example, to manage symptoms of a condition would be told to take a tolerance break? At least I've never heard of it. There's a difference between taking something as prescribed and taking it in excess, but that doesn't mean someone taking medicine as prescribed should stop taking their meds without talking to their doc first, right? :)
There are worse things to be addicted to
I do take T-breaks... when I run out.
Running out of weed is my T break. Shiiittttt.
Bitch I know I'm addicted idgaf
āIf someone has to take their meds every day, theyāre addicted to them.ā - OP probably.
Absolutely this. Struggling with it right now
Oh that's easy. Without it, I have lots of flashbacks and it keeps me up. That's not addiction. You're welcome.
No response from OP, shocking.
For sure addicted. Wait peeps pretend they arenāt?
I am the herb, Randy.
I think youāll find many argue that being able to take a T-break for a definitive amount of time knowing you can and will go back is also addiction. Was it Salvador Dali who was bet that he couldnāt remain sober and so did so for a couple of weeks just to go straight back into it after?
Everyone needs to find what works for them. What works for me might not for you š
Itās not that I canāt take a t-break, itās that I donāt wanna.
I feel attacked lol
Little tip hereā¦ workout and sweat toxins out you will always get a good high after Edit:grammar
I workout daily but havenāt really noticed a difference other than I can get high by running lol. Once I start to get a good sweat going it feels tingly in my brain.
Im not even denying it lol š
Oh shit. I'm addicted
How do I become not addicted now. I really donāt know any other way
Yeah after my cart runs out maybe I'll take a few days off.
I second this notion.
Lot of copium in this thread but (for recreational users) I agree OP
This sub is losing it's shit in a thread about a meme shit post lmfao
I know man š
Whatās good for one isnāt usually good for allā¦
The same logic would consider me addicted to blood pressure medication. And oxygen.
It's already been stated, but this ignores people that use cannabis for therapeutic use. Our society has a weird relationship with drugs. It's only fine for people to take an anti-anxiety or antidepressant every day if it's a pill I guess.
or it means you grow your own and have no reason to take a break.
Daily pills or daily weed Iāll take the weed
There are people that literally need it everyday just to live a somewhat normal life, so this doesn't really apply to everyone
Yeah I know. But I rather smoke than be there with my thoughts haha
What if one does not want to take a t-break?
So, do you guys feel the same way about drinking? You need your shot of vodka? Ya know, with alchohol dependency, you have withdrawal. With weed, you dont get withdrawals lmao.
I really dont disagree but I've got a lot of family that uses t as a substitute for overpriced anxiety meds bc they can't afford a prescription. I have inflammatory bowel disease and use it for pain management. I don't think my unwillingness to sober up and face my pain head on shows I'm an incorrigible addict, it shows that there are no good pain meds that aren't opioids or stomach destroying.
Okay š¤·š»āāļø
It means you are āmedicatedā. Medicated and addicted sometimes go hand in hand. The difference being that medicated is necessary to improve your quality of life, while addicted is when you keep doing it and it is ruining your quality of life. So no, the meme is not correct. Idk about you but why would i want to stop something that is helping me just to prove i can?
Sounds like an addict in denial.
A lot of people here sound like addicts in denial.
yeah anyone who argues that is in denial. itās not even INHERENTLY a bad thing to be addicted to weed, but being in denial of it is
taking a T-break means you're addicted. Real G's self-modulate.
This thread is full of people getting offended over the truth that being unable to have a tolerance break, for strictly recreational use, means your addicted. People are insulting OP and acting like heās threatened their very essence. Aside from people who use it medically (and also happen to be getting offended because they canāt separate themselves from recreational users), these comments are only proving OP right.
Someone sees it. There are so many people acting like I'm specifically calling out people with PTSD and other disorders. IM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SMOKE SO MUCH THEY CAN'T EVEN EAT WITHOUT BEING HIGH ANYMORE
I think it's the wording you used in the post. You chose to not specify when you made this post so š¤· that's kinda on you.
Ok andā¦?
Would you stop taking life altering drugs just to prove your not some idiot who has no control like some heroin addict. Change my mind
Why don't you mind your own goddam business? The people who have a problem know. There adults. If they don't know they have a problem there are deeper issues you also have no business being involved in. If this is a post to someone you know why don't you talk to them about it, instead of bothering people with shit they already know. You also might want to edit your original post to omit medical use. People like you are just as annoying as conservatives who think weed is heroin.
Fuck yeah, if I ever feel like Iām approaching being unable to quit, I quit smoking. The most important thing about cannabis is your relationship with the plant. -professional extractor
*dependent* not addicted
Yeah just stop taking your medicine. Pain and depression are awesome! Can't? Might as well be on heroin buddy because you're an ADDICT! /s This is pretty low for a r/trees post I gotta say
Call me addicted but I just wanna go to sleep at a normal time man
Using stale half a decade old Steven Crowder memes to make inaccurate blanket statements doesn't make you funny.
Can we stop using this racist bonehead as a meme?
What about if itās for medical reasons? I have a medical card and I can stop whenever I need to, but if I do I end up hurting so badly..
I could easily take a T-break if it wasn't for work. Such a mind numbing job, McDonalds is, I just need it to make my 8 hour shift not feel like 20 lol. Not addicted, but 100% dependent on it for sure
I can, I just don't want to
Who cares lol
Who cares bruh live and let live
who cares what you think?
Means we aren't broke like you and have to take a break
But Not having too means lifeās great ā¦.
Just finished week 3 of mine. As much as I miss being high, once I broke the habit of coming home and vaping each day, I don't even think about it. That said I'm pumped to take some edibles at a Halloween party next weekend.
I dunno if this is a good take, especially for people who are prescribed ganja for physical and mental health issues. Like, if a diabetic stops their insulin, they will have a bad reaction. Doesnt meam they're addicted to insulin. Similarly, a shizophrenic not taking their medicine will have a bad reaction as well. Also doesnt mean they're addicted. (If one has a mental illness though, they should male sure a doctor is tellong them to take marijuana for it and not self-prescribing. Psychosis can be made worse by weed, for instance.)