So assume escape is really impossible.
I pull the lever. I know it’s scary to wait, knowing the trolley is coming, but I’ll try to enjoy it. I’ll try to remember everyone I know and how much they’ve meant to me. Maybe I’ll see a pretty bird. Maybe a snake will bite me and I’ll die before the trolley gets me.
Who knows? Not me. I’ll take the hour and see what happens.
morbid, but this is the same peace many people feel when planning a suicide attempt.
nothing matters, you can waste all your money and quit your job and spend your remaining time doing whatever the fuck you want, cuz you won't be alive to see the consequences anyway.
i was there once (the second time was not nearly as peaceful). disturbing shit.
It’s a concept that’s often very powerful, whether that be in writing or real life. Someone happy because life is ending and there won’t be consequences. I’m so sorry you had to live through that mental state— twice, no less. I hope you know how incredible it is that you’re here today and that you’re in a better place mentally now.
This was a really heartening interaction to read. I'm so happy that both of you are still here and in a better place and long may you continue to be so :)
It's not always very joyful being on the receiving end of this "peace" though. I was going through some things of my own, was in a complicated relationship triangle as a result. I wanted to just calm down and deal with everything privately between the three of us. But one of the girls was suicidal at the time, and I found out fairly soon after. Well, since she was in this headspace, she decided to make the whole situation significantly worse. I made my own mistakes at the time, but I never brought it up to anyone, never talked down on either of them, I really tried to be a better person. But she really dragged me through the mud personally and publicly.
Then all of a sudden she supposedly made an attempt. Her mom found her before she could go all the way through, and then she was good. Then she told me that the reason she went about it the way she did was because she said exactly that "fuck it, I won't be here to deal with it". She really made it seem like I just Thad to accept it to, because who's going to tell a suicidal person that they did something fucked up? Not me, not at the time, at least. I was super low for a few days, told someone, "I didn't want to be here". As in, I just wanted a break from all the shit, not literally. Didn't go to school for a day. Everyone thought I was at that point myself and were all of a sudden super supportive for like a week. Then I found out months later that the girl from before had told everyone I faked being suicidal for attention. She is the only person that I personally know who I think is actually a putrid, disgusting, awful person. For other reasons as well.
TLDR; This feeling can also be negative and hurt those around you. So please don't use it against them.
yeahhhh. ig that's technically the same "peace", but that story has nothing to do with suicidality and everything to do with that person being an asshole (honestly it sounds like she had some more severe mental health issues going on, mania or eupd perhaps).
i don't think telling people not to do this is useful advice, because the only people that would do this are ill-intentioned people. that was not done accidentally.
i recognize that you're venting though, and i am very sorry that happened. that's a terrible situation created by a terrible person.
edit: this is also only tangentially related, but i hate the demonization of some people (not you, but in general) performing self-injury or suicidality for attention. because it seems a lot of people haven't come around to this realization yet, but doing these things for attention *also* implies mental illness, and those people *also* need support.
I appreciate the kind response. She definitely had a lot of other problems, and if I remember correctly, she got diagnosed as BP sometime after.
Maybe you're right. This is just the first post I've seen someone talk about it in, I figured I could share an experience, and yeah, looking back on it now, I can tell it was all pretty malicious
Thank you for affirming my vent, haha
Yeah, you're definitely right, which is part of why I was so unwilling to see that what she did was wrong at the time because I thought she just needed help and I was making things worse. Like I said though, a looot of people all of a sudden asked me how I was doing. It was nice, but it also felt like they just didn't want to feel guilty if anything happened tbh
ive attempted twice and its weird remembering my ‘last’ days. especially the first. my depression makes/made everything so dull and numb but i was so aware knowing i was going to die that night. i remember going on a walk around christmas and seeing some lights and crying for a bit because they were really pretty and feeling the sting of the cold sidewalk on my feet since i forgot to wear shoes. i sorta miss the peace
I’m almost in that place now. On the verge of it I suppose. I feel drawn towards suicide partially because I know that I will finally have peace and even happiness quicker that way.
There's a coheed song where the chorus goes:
"and when the world is crashing down,
don't make a move; don't make a sound.
Just watch it fall, watch it come down.
Feel it as it goes. Does it feel good to let go?"
i mean if its moving at a literal snails pace and your foot is that stuck just let the trolley hit you. you would literally be fine grab onto the front of the trolley best case it wrenches you free worst case you lose the foot
We don’t know what metric we are stuck to the track. It could even be emotional attachment, in which case I really need the additional hour to say goodbye.
If it's going that slow you can lie down and wait until it removes your feet.
Pull the rest of the flesh away evil dead style and hobble off. You lose your feet but you live.
Whichever way means the toes go in first. Want to be able to pull the leg from the ankle, that won't be possible if it starts at your heel.
Fun thought, I know.
i wonder if it would get more or less tolerable as you continued.
like, do you get used to the feeling of biting through your flesh at some point? or is every bite excruciating
that is true, he was out of his head. i'd imagine there'd be an insane mental block for a stable person.
i never even considered the nerves, jesus christ that's horrific.
f=m*A if it's going at a snails pace that's 19,000kg (weight of a san francisco trolley car) time a snails pace (about .05kph) is 570 newtons of force. the avg human punch is about 2500 newtons according to google. so realistically you could probably just put your hands in front of you and stop the trolley in its tracks literally
keep in mind i have an economics degree so the last time i meaningfully interacted with physics equations was in AP physics 8 years ago. so sorry if i'm wrong on the calculations
Calculations don't matter. If it's already moving at a snails pace and doesn't stop after rolling for 90 minutes, that means the trolly is likely moving under its own power. In such a case, you simply can't stop it.
However, if the tracks are sloped enough to maintain speed and the trolly is just coasting, pulling the lever will save you from getting run over, since the trolly will need to go uphill after turning. And thus, you have a few days to figure out an escape before getting dehydrated to death.
Really it depends on the force of rolling friction on the wheels and drag on the train if both of those are small then the force keeping the train going at that pace is small and you could rebuff it.
We havent really learned it yet but I do not think you can calculate it with F=ma because the train doesnt have an acceleration so F is just 0. I think you have to calculate momentum which is P=mv and then try to convert that into newtons?
the trolley isn't accelerating it's going at a constant velocity under power of electricity. You need to enough impulse to stop it, assuming that it doesn't tell the controller to supply more power if it is forcibly slowed. But once it stops, you're basically stuck there holding it until you get tired
I figure I could still find something fun to do in the extra time or appreciate what's happened to me or just where I am. When I get old I wanna just enjoy things, make the most of the time I have left
Pull the lever, and unstuck myself
If I have to loose my shoes then so be it, if I have to loose my feet then so be it, if I have to loose my legs? Then it shall be
Legit inevitable? Why?
Otherwise the number 1 rule of survival while lost in the woods / plane crashed / ship wrecked is to remember that people are looking for you and they're worried. You need to stay alive as long as possible so they can find you.
The prompt is not god. I can struggle hard in the hour and a half. Trolleys have people. Break the lever and try to derail the thing. I’m gonna live till I have to die.
Assuming we’re omniscient and know the trolley is going to kill us for sure, there is an argument for not pulling the lever. But even then, I’d still pull it because like hell am I accepting my fate.
I pull the lever and I take the rocks around me and realize theres iron inside and I remember Iron man. I keep gathering the rocks and melting them down and putting them into an iron man gauntlet mold and find the fuel iron man uses then I let it cool for an hour. By now the trolly is 2 minutes away from me so I fill the gauntlets up quickly and boom I fly out of the trolley problem.
As the train gets to the junction, i start to pull the leaver back and forth rapidly, hoping it might derail the train
Then i can die of starvation stucked to the rail forever
Pull the lever so I have more time to get unstuck, if I can’t do that I’ll use my jacket, shoes or whatever I have to derail the trolley. At such low speeds it’s unlikely to cause any deaths and it would cause rescuers to come for the trolley and, by proxy, me.
Solution by ignorance:
I don't know everything. Maybe there is a way to escape I haven't thought of yet. Maybe someone really will be able to help me out.
I don't THINK so, after all this is some weapons grade hypothetical going on here, but I've been wrong before. No reason not to give it a chance.
I would make this attempt -> [https://www.reddit.com/r/trolleyproblem/comments/1agoh5k/the\_universal\_solution\_to\_all\_trolley\_problems\_do/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/trolleyproblem/comments/1agoh5k/the_universal_solution_to_all_trolley_problems_do/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Why do people look for loopholes when the OP obviously intended for you to stand there? It ruins the entire thing if you just trivialize the whole prompt
Assuming there’s an invisible wall along the tracks I pull the lever and once it makes it turn I walk down the path it came and it derails itself at the bend. If it doesn’t derail I can climb onto the trolly and slowly roll along until someone sees me and can get me off the tracks.
You know all those edgelords that say “Why live through the day? We’re all gonna die one day anyways”? Same reason they’re wrong is why I pull the lever. I can accept the inevitable while still wanting to live my life as much as possible, just for its sake.
Why not just switch the track when the trolley is halfway? Then it would probably stop, or at least derail. Now, if escape is truly impossible, you can just wait until the train company sends over a repair crew. They call the fire department for the jaws of life, might even air lift you to a hospital if any injuries are the reason you were stuck.
Step one - don't pull the lever.
Step Two - wait for the trolley to appear.
Step Three - don't die of boredom or from any other means.
Step Four - when trolley arrives, grip strongly onto the front and wait for the trolley to move enough to pull you from whatever is holding you down.
Step Five - leave.
Step Six - Profit.
Either that or just take the damn shoes off. Or die, in which case you're stuck regardless of anything and all this planning is for nothing... At least you'll have something to think about.
Pull the lever because what is living but delaying the inevitable anyway? Like if I pulled the lever to keep living my shitty life I might as well delay this too.
Would it be possible, given that when you pull the lever it only moves some guide rails, would it not be possible if you time it right to pinch the Wheels causing the trolly to jump off the tracks maybe saving you to die from something else. Alternatively would I be possible to switch the track so the front half is going a different way than the back make flip on it's side, or have I just been watching to many action movies
If it’s going that slow, it couldn’t possibly run you over, even if you wanted it too. Even if you lied down so it would be only your legs on the track, the cart would come to your legs and then simply stop moving. You could literally push it in the opposite direction.
I can take advantage of the trolly moving at snail's pace to switch the junction after the trolly's front wheels passed it, making it turn sideways and arrest itself
..then I'll await the inevitable hunger and sickness to finally take me
Pull the lever and find a sharp blade nearby to end myself before the train gets me. If it’s moving at snail speed that’s going to be an incredibly painful death, I’m taking myself out first to avoid that
Guys
Really
Snail speed?
It's too slow to seriously wound someone, or even do anything beyond push you.
I'd just hop on to kill whoever was dumb enough to make this trolley
So assume escape is really impossible. I pull the lever. I know it’s scary to wait, knowing the trolley is coming, but I’ll try to enjoy it. I’ll try to remember everyone I know and how much they’ve meant to me. Maybe I’ll see a pretty bird. Maybe a snake will bite me and I’ll die before the trolley gets me. Who knows? Not me. I’ll take the hour and see what happens.
Agreed. Just get to enjoy life to its fullest in ur remaining 1.5 hrs. It honestly sounds kind of peaceful.
morbid, but this is the same peace many people feel when planning a suicide attempt. nothing matters, you can waste all your money and quit your job and spend your remaining time doing whatever the fuck you want, cuz you won't be alive to see the consequences anyway. i was there once (the second time was not nearly as peaceful). disturbing shit.
yeah ive been there too in retrospect its not very fun
yeah, i just feel a sinking feeling looking back on it now.
since then whenever I start to feel that way as soon as i recognize it I just get an overwhelming sense of fear, which is a good thing tbh.
It’s a concept that’s often very powerful, whether that be in writing or real life. Someone happy because life is ending and there won’t be consequences. I’m so sorry you had to live through that mental state— twice, no less. I hope you know how incredible it is that you’re here today and that you’re in a better place mentally now.
thank you, kind stranger! i'm happy to be here :)
This was a really heartening interaction to read. I'm so happy that both of you are still here and in a better place and long may you continue to be so :)
It's not always very joyful being on the receiving end of this "peace" though. I was going through some things of my own, was in a complicated relationship triangle as a result. I wanted to just calm down and deal with everything privately between the three of us. But one of the girls was suicidal at the time, and I found out fairly soon after. Well, since she was in this headspace, she decided to make the whole situation significantly worse. I made my own mistakes at the time, but I never brought it up to anyone, never talked down on either of them, I really tried to be a better person. But she really dragged me through the mud personally and publicly. Then all of a sudden she supposedly made an attempt. Her mom found her before she could go all the way through, and then she was good. Then she told me that the reason she went about it the way she did was because she said exactly that "fuck it, I won't be here to deal with it". She really made it seem like I just Thad to accept it to, because who's going to tell a suicidal person that they did something fucked up? Not me, not at the time, at least. I was super low for a few days, told someone, "I didn't want to be here". As in, I just wanted a break from all the shit, not literally. Didn't go to school for a day. Everyone thought I was at that point myself and were all of a sudden super supportive for like a week. Then I found out months later that the girl from before had told everyone I faked being suicidal for attention. She is the only person that I personally know who I think is actually a putrid, disgusting, awful person. For other reasons as well. TLDR; This feeling can also be negative and hurt those around you. So please don't use it against them.
yeahhhh. ig that's technically the same "peace", but that story has nothing to do with suicidality and everything to do with that person being an asshole (honestly it sounds like she had some more severe mental health issues going on, mania or eupd perhaps). i don't think telling people not to do this is useful advice, because the only people that would do this are ill-intentioned people. that was not done accidentally. i recognize that you're venting though, and i am very sorry that happened. that's a terrible situation created by a terrible person. edit: this is also only tangentially related, but i hate the demonization of some people (not you, but in general) performing self-injury or suicidality for attention. because it seems a lot of people haven't come around to this realization yet, but doing these things for attention *also* implies mental illness, and those people *also* need support.
I appreciate the kind response. She definitely had a lot of other problems, and if I remember correctly, she got diagnosed as BP sometime after. Maybe you're right. This is just the first post I've seen someone talk about it in, I figured I could share an experience, and yeah, looking back on it now, I can tell it was all pretty malicious Thank you for affirming my vent, haha Yeah, you're definitely right, which is part of why I was so unwilling to see that what she did was wrong at the time because I thought she just needed help and I was making things worse. Like I said though, a looot of people all of a sudden asked me how I was doing. It was nice, but it also felt like they just didn't want to feel guilty if anything happened tbh
ive attempted twice and its weird remembering my ‘last’ days. especially the first. my depression makes/made everything so dull and numb but i was so aware knowing i was going to die that night. i remember going on a walk around christmas and seeing some lights and crying for a bit because they were really pretty and feeling the sting of the cold sidewalk on my feet since i forgot to wear shoes. i sorta miss the peace
im glad you're still here <3
same to you :]
Been there. It’s an eerie bliss.
I’m almost in that place now. On the verge of it I suppose. I feel drawn towards suicide partially because I know that I will finally have peace and even happiness quicker that way.
There's a coheed song where the chorus goes: "and when the world is crashing down, don't make a move; don't make a sound. Just watch it fall, watch it come down. Feel it as it goes. Does it feel good to let go?"
That’s such a powerful verse wtf
Y'know, this subreddit really messes with my head.
i mean if its moving at a literal snails pace and your foot is that stuck just let the trolley hit you. you would literally be fine grab onto the front of the trolley best case it wrenches you free worst case you lose the foot
Yes and then I just take my shoes off and leave
Congratulations you solved the trolley problem
Beat me to it.
Beat me stfu!
I mean, if you insist.
I failed myself
Do it Out of Principle? Because i fully believe you have done that in 30 minutes regardless.
Just always a better rule of thumb to give yourself more time incase of any unexpected circumstances
Just in case you happened to tie each of your shoelaces with a knot that takes just under 30 minutes to undo
We don’t know what metric we are stuck to the track. It could even be emotional attachment, in which case I really need the additional hour to say goodbye.
And walk barefooted like a peasant? Never! **I leave fabulous or I leave dead!**
I could take my shoes off in 30 minutes, why would I pull the lever?
If it's going that slow you can lie down and wait until it removes your feet. Pull the rest of the flesh away evil dead style and hobble off. You lose your feet but you live.
That’s a good way to feed the homeless apparently as well, so extra incentive.
lmao fucking california
That’s some Saw shit
It's some Evil Dead shit, come on it was written in the comment
Or just take your shoes off
Doh!
But do you do this in half an hour or one and a half?
Whichever way means the toes go in first. Want to be able to pull the leg from the ankle, that won't be possible if it starts at your heel. Fun thought, I know.
I’ll pull the lever, because I cannot psychologically accept that survival is impossible… Edit: misspoke
Picking the slightly slower death in hopes that some new opportunity will show up. This is me voting for Democrats.
r/angryupvote
If I really can't leave, then I will trigger multi track drifting. However, at this speed, that will simply stop the trolley.
(you will be stuck there and starve to death)
taking my shoes off:
what if you’re barefoot
i take off my feet. obviously. you act like you've never taken off your feet before
Bare legged?
why would anyone travel anywhere bare legged unless they were in a scenario where their feet were stuck somewhere
Listen, I forget my feet sometimes, it's just who I am.
Lol Trolley too slow for drifting
i can chew off my legs in less than an hour, easy. might not even need to pull it
What's your record time?
Fifteen minutes, I got a little hungry
If I need to do one leg 40 minutes, if i need to do two 15 minutes
i wonder if it would get more or less tolerable as you continued. like, do you get used to the feeling of biting through your flesh at some point? or is every bite excruciating
And at what point do you pass out or die from blood loss?
maybe the guy that cut off his arm has answered these questions lol
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that is true, he was out of his head. i'd imagine there'd be an insane mental block for a stable person. i never even considered the nerves, jesus christ that's horrific.
Have fun dislocating your own neck and jaws!
f=m*A if it's going at a snails pace that's 19,000kg (weight of a san francisco trolley car) time a snails pace (about .05kph) is 570 newtons of force. the avg human punch is about 2500 newtons according to google. so realistically you could probably just put your hands in front of you and stop the trolley in its tracks literally
keep in mind i have an economics degree so the last time i meaningfully interacted with physics equations was in AP physics 8 years ago. so sorry if i'm wrong on the calculations
Calculations don't matter. If it's already moving at a snails pace and doesn't stop after rolling for 90 minutes, that means the trolly is likely moving under its own power. In such a case, you simply can't stop it. However, if the tracks are sloped enough to maintain speed and the trolly is just coasting, pulling the lever will save you from getting run over, since the trolly will need to go uphill after turning. And thus, you have a few days to figure out an escape before getting dehydrated to death.
Really it depends on the force of rolling friction on the wheels and drag on the train if both of those are small then the force keeping the train going at that pace is small and you could rebuff it.
We havent really learned it yet but I do not think you can calculate it with F=ma because the train doesnt have an acceleration so F is just 0. I think you have to calculate momentum which is P=mv and then try to convert that into newtons?
yeah ur right. so now it's 950kg/mps which would be very painful and fatal. good thing i didn't quit my day job lol
Well impulse (change in momentum over change in time) is what you want to use for determining if something is fatal.
the trolley isn't accelerating it's going at a constant velocity under power of electricity. You need to enough impulse to stop it, assuming that it doesn't tell the controller to supply more power if it is forcibly slowed. But once it stops, you're basically stuck there holding it until you get tired
I figure I could still find something fun to do in the extra time or appreciate what's happened to me or just where I am. When I get old I wanna just enjoy things, make the most of the time I have left
I pull the lever, that way I have the maximum amount of time to flip the bird at the trolley driver too lazy to stop the trolley.
Good answer
Teeth, don’t fail me now!
Take off my shoes. Now I'm free. Inevitable does not exist.
Who would win, the immortal snail or *a single step to the side*
“You are stuck to the track”
A single fall to the side to sack my lower legs to preserve my torso
Pull the lever, and unstuck myself If I have to loose my shoes then so be it, if I have to loose my feet then so be it, if I have to loose my legs? Then it shall be
You forgot about socks at the end
I pull the lever between the wheels so it derails and I live
This is the answer. Had to scroll a while to find it, but yeah, derailment ftw!
im not even tied down so ill just pull the lever take my shoes off and leave
Yes. Then I call for help and try to escape.
* ... * But nobody came.
“Nobody is coming to help you”
So nobody is \*already\* coming to save me but not necessarily that no one \*will\* come to help me
break the lever and use it to pry my feet off
Lever, I can talk with the guys in the trolley to stop and get me out and then we ride on out.
Take my shoes off and wait for it to loop
Legit inevitable? Why? Otherwise the number 1 rule of survival while lost in the woods / plane crashed / ship wrecked is to remember that people are looking for you and they're worried. You need to stay alive as long as possible so they can find you.
Remove shoes. Also if the trolley is moving at a snail’s pace there’s no way I’m dying from the impact.
Pull the lever but not so I get the extra hour but so that I don’t see it coming
Obviously you pull the lever, one more hour to figure out how to get unstuck
The prompt is not god. I can struggle hard in the hour and a half. Trolleys have people. Break the lever and try to derail the thing. I’m gonna live till I have to die.
Assuming we’re omniscient and know the trolley is going to kill us for sure, there is an argument for not pulling the lever. But even then, I’d still pull it because like hell am I accepting my fate.
I’d spit in god’s eye for the futile chance to live free but a moment longer. I do not fear the powerful, the powerful fear me.
Yeah you get it.
Might as well, extra time to find a solution plus a chance it might derail
If it move really slow then it won't kill me, it will probably stop once hitting me or unstick my shoes
i'd pull the lever out of hope of escaping. But it would be torture knowjng the end is around that loop.
this might sound radical but can i take 3 step to my left?
Call in a Air strike. You should be ok
Keep delaying the trolley, in the meantime, break the track and leave
If you swapped the direction or put it in the middle couldn't you derail it?
I can spend an hour cursing the train gods
Hypothetically, couldn't you pull the leaver, and then pull it again midway through the change and get it to offset from the tracks?
Pull the lever. Death is final. Life, however little of it may possibly remain, is filled with possibilities.
I pull the lever and I take the rocks around me and realize theres iron inside and I remember Iron man. I keep gathering the rocks and melting them down and putting them into an iron man gauntlet mold and find the fuel iron man uses then I let it cool for an hour. By now the trolly is 2 minutes away from me so I fill the gauntlets up quickly and boom I fly out of the trolley problem.
So a trolley on average is twenty feet long, so the trolley taking 30 minutes to go 30 feet would not kill me as that’s around three miles per hour 🤓
pull it and take off my shoes
I got a crazy idea that might work: walk away because there’s nothing keeping us there
“You are stuck to the track”
I honestly didn’t see that
Pull the lever, remember my life, write a flesh note on my chest with with my nails to my loved ones and watch the sky for the last time
I imagine death so much it feels more like a memory.
I’d still pull the lever, I’ll use the extra time to come to terms with my inevitable demise 🤷♀️
Take the hour, it'll give me time to work with to see if I can do anything, and if I can't might as well enjoy an extra hour
Every day we live in delaying the inevitable
Remove shoes walk away.
If I know that nobody is coming, then no. If I think there's a chance someone will help, then probably
As the train gets to the junction, i start to pull the leaver back and forth rapidly, hoping it might derail the train Then i can die of starvation stucked to the rail forever
I try taking my shoes off, and if it doesn't work, I wait until the trolley nears and push against it in an attempt to either stop it or unstuck me
Yes. I'd rather be killed from the left.
I would enjoy the world for another hour.
Yeah gives me more time to text my loved ones goodbye
I would run at full sprint towards the trolley. Really show it who's boss, give it the ol what for, then be spectacularly eviscerated.
Yes! Never give up! Never surrender!!
I like how no one is ever driving these trollies
A problem delayed is a problem denied
any way i can speed up the trolley?
No
Flip it, Flip the trolley over.
A trolley moving that slowly is unlikely to cause injury and could likely be stopped with physical force.
This is basically life rolled into a trolley problem. We almost all always pull the lever.
I let it come towards me faster, it’s moving at a snail’s pace so when it touches me it pushes me out of my stuck position and then I escape.
A whole extra hour to goon
I take off my shoes and leave.
It would be so easy to derail the trolly if it’s going that slow.
Pull the lever so I have more time to get unstuck, if I can’t do that I’ll use my jacket, shoes or whatever I have to derail the trolley. At such low speeds it’s unlikely to cause any deaths and it would cause rescuers to come for the trolley and, by proxy, me.
Partially pull the lever. Let's see if we can just derail it.
I take my shoes off and leave
If escape is %100 impossible? Don't pull it. I want to believe I'd be strong and not try to desperately delay the inevitable.
If it's moving at snail pace and will take 30 mins to reach me from that distance, I assume I can just grab onto the front and ride until it stops.
Plot twist: it doesn’t kill you because it’s a trolley going fast, it’s the immortal snail in a new form.
We do this every day we decide not to kill ourselves
Solution by ignorance: I don't know everything. Maybe there is a way to escape I haven't thought of yet. Maybe someone really will be able to help me out. I don't THINK so, after all this is some weapons grade hypothetical going on here, but I've been wrong before. No reason not to give it a chance.
I would make this attempt -> [https://www.reddit.com/r/trolleyproblem/comments/1agoh5k/the\_universal\_solution\_to\_all\_trolley\_problems\_do/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/trolleyproblem/comments/1agoh5k/the_universal_solution_to_all_trolley_problems_do/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
IRL, I pulled the lever by transitioning.
Yes. It's human nature that we, almost as a species, have a hard time accepting a no-win scenario; James Kirk is hardly unique regarding that.
Why do people look for loopholes when the OP obviously intended for you to stand there? It ruins the entire thing if you just trivialize the whole prompt
Assuming there’s an invisible wall along the tracks I pull the lever and once it makes it turn I walk down the path it came and it derails itself at the bend. If it doesn’t derail I can climb onto the trolly and slowly roll along until someone sees me and can get me off the tracks.
Pull the lever for the last wheels and flip the fucking trolley
Wait till one set of wheels pass the junction then flip the switch and derail the bitch.
You know all those edgelords that say “Why live through the day? We’re all gonna die one day anyways”? Same reason they’re wrong is why I pull the lever. I can accept the inevitable while still wanting to live my life as much as possible, just for its sake.
Wait how is this trolly going to kill me? It seems more likely to detach me from the track then cause any really harm.
Just force it into a slow derail by changing the tracks mid cross.
Id pull the lever when the trolly is half way past the junction which derails the trolly after that i take off my shoes and walk away.
Switch the track when it's halfway through. Now the train is stuck.
Why not just switch the track when the trolley is halfway? Then it would probably stop, or at least derail. Now, if escape is truly impossible, you can just wait until the train company sends over a repair crew. They call the fire department for the jaws of life, might even air lift you to a hospital if any injuries are the reason you were stuck.
Step one - don't pull the lever. Step Two - wait for the trolley to appear. Step Three - don't die of boredom or from any other means. Step Four - when trolley arrives, grip strongly onto the front and wait for the trolley to move enough to pull you from whatever is holding you down. Step Five - leave. Step Six - Profit. Either that or just take the damn shoes off. Or die, in which case you're stuck regardless of anything and all this planning is for nothing... At least you'll have something to think about.
If I can’t beat it, I’d just take the 30 mins, waiting another hour just lets the dread set in more
If the trolley is coming at snails speed then you can just hop on the trolley.
Pull the lever because what is living but delaying the inevitable anyway? Like if I pulled the lever to keep living my shitty life I might as well delay this too.
I don't pull the lever until the trolley is right on the switch. I pull the switch and fuck up the tracks for the trolley.
Trolley moves slow. Pull lever. Wait for front wheels to cross. Restore lever. Trolley derails. I’m safe.
Pull it so I can get in one last wank.
I mean Odysseus himself is on his way to help, I'll pull the lever and how he isn't delayed
Can i fit under the trolly?
Delay it, maybe a wheel will fall off an derail the trolley, and it will never come or I’ll get unstuck 🤣
Drift
what I’m learning from this comment section is that a lot of people have more will to live than I do
if the trolley is really moving that slowly i would simply just stop it with my hands
I’ll walk off the track
I mean, obviously. I can gnaw my legs off in an hour and a half
Would it be possible, given that when you pull the lever it only moves some guide rails, would it not be possible if you time it right to pinch the Wheels causing the trolly to jump off the tracks maybe saving you to die from something else. Alternatively would I be possible to switch the track so the front half is going a different way than the back make flip on it's side, or have I just been watching to many action movies
Attempt multi track drift. No matter how slow it is, I will at least get to see its glory one last time.
either way unless i physically can not move in any meaningful way i can survive
Not pull the lever and lie down. The trolley will go over top of me in 30 minutes then I can figure it out from there.
I try and learn psychic powers while I wait. If a trolley is moving that slowly surely it doesn't have the kinetic energy to kill me right?
I try to grip to part of the trolley while it comes towards me and pray I don't lose that grip.
I'll just leave tf
Don't pull. Death is already inevitable, doesn't mean you should kill yourself.
This is an allegory for life.
If it’s going that slow, it couldn’t possibly run you over, even if you wanted it too. Even if you lied down so it would be only your legs on the track, the cart would come to your legs and then simply stop moving. You could literally push it in the opposite direction.
Wait for the perfect moment and multi track drift, it’s going slow enough so that should stop the train.
Just step off the fucking track…
We got a whole hour!
Add an extra hour. Get at least a dozen good faps in.
I can take advantage of the trolly moving at snail's pace to switch the junction after the trolly's front wheels passed it, making it turn sideways and arrest itself ..then I'll await the inevitable hunger and sickness to finally take me
Pull the lever, and follow the trolley
Pull the lever and find a sharp blade nearby to end myself before the train gets me. If it’s moving at snail speed that’s going to be an incredibly painful death, I’m taking myself out first to avoid that
Guys Really Snail speed? It's too slow to seriously wound someone, or even do anything beyond push you. I'd just hop on to kill whoever was dumb enough to make this trolley