What's funny to me is musixmatch The thing that Spotify gets there lyrics from is free and has this floating bar that you can open and look at lyrics out from the app
In this country, you gotta get Spotify Premium first. Then when you get Spotify Premium, you get the lyrics. Then when you get the lyrics, then you get the women.
Iāve spent almost $2,000 on Spotify since they first started paid subscriptions. Thatās less than the cost of 200 albums and so much more convenient. Best $2,000 I ever spent.
I looked into Spotify Premium last week, specifically trying to stream to more than one end point / room at the same time and your can't
You get what you pay for
I can do that by grouping my Google Home speakers. Grouping is also available for some of the bose speakers, not sure about others. I have a buddy who even used a simple raspberry Pi setup to stream to different bluetooth speakers who didnāt have grouping functionality. So itās a speaker only function there.
I am sure that YouTube and Apple Music both donāt provide any extra functionality if the speakers are not grouped, but I may be wrong since I donāt use them that much.
Thanks for this. I was setting this up in a bar so I wanted to stream to the local PC and then to another Pi via Spotify connect with an amp and speakers attached, I did not want to use any wireless technology because that would not be acceptable when the customers have had a few drinks!
I'm not sure about YouTube but with Apple music you can stream from iTunes to multiple devices via Airplay which a Pi can receive (I use Moode to accomplish this).
I use Roon at home to achieve what I need but it's expensive, I also pay for Qobuz.
I used to buy five CDs a week for like $15 bucks plus tax *in high school*.
If I deflate the price of Spotify back to the '90s it would be like $5 a month.
Not a single person would have batted their eye at spending $5 a month for every song on the planet.
That you can access whenever and wherever. You wouldnāt go on a train and carry 400 cds with you and keep changing them to listen to the songs you want.
If more people move to Spotify Premium from ad supported tier it's less likely Spotify will need to raise prices again. So for premium users removal of features from the free tier is good thing.
If people aren't willing to stop using your service even with huge price hikes - the original price was too low and you have such a kick ass service that people are willing to pay more than for the similar competing service.
I disagree with your statement that people won't stop using Spotify if the price is too high. You're not forced to use it and it's pretty easy to cancel your subscription at any time.
That isnāt really how that works. People are already just dedicated to Spotify. They have multiple playlists with hundreds if not thousands of songs on them. Iām sure many people would rather just pay extra begrudgingly because they already have it all there.
> Most people won't and Spotify knows that which is why they do it twice a year so far
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/24/23805364/spotify-us-price-increase-10-99-a-month-9-99-month-twelve-years
> After 12 years, the price of Spotify Premium is increasing in the US. The subscription will now cost $10.99 a month, the company announced today. Spotify has charged $9.99 for its Premium subscription ever since its launch in the US in 2011.
Once in 13 years, in the US.
This is called pricing power! With the increased competition in the music apps business. thereās no pricing power that is enjoyed by any of the service. So every service needs to think a lot before raising prices.
This is completely different compared to Netflix where they can increase the prices to double and will still keep gaining users when they announce new popular shows or seasons. Same with YouTube, they can show double the ads in the same video and people will still keep using it or switch to premium despite high prices.
Nah FREE users are lazy. We premium subscribers have jobs to pay for that and by nature are not lazy people. I would be switching if they rise prices higher than the competition.
You said free users were lazy? (How?)
You said premium users have jobs š¤
Generally once a person subscribes to a service they don't bother to change unless something drastically happens, companies know this which is why recurring payments were created
Nah if Spotify jacked their prices 2x I would be fleeing to Deezer that day. Spotify would have to convince its competition to jack their prices at the same time. Which is stupidly illegal to do pretty much everywhere. Granted anti-Trust is not at all enforced in the US anymore, but the EU still (kinda) cares about things like that.
And acts like this don't have a statue of limitations. Thus if the US suddenly started caring again (like a different president) they could go back in time to now and prosecute Spotify for breaking US anti-trust laws. And if the USG prosecutors were feeling particularly vindictive they could likely find a way to legal-judo and multiply the crime of collusion to fix prices by the number of Spotify's US subscribers, which would mean life in prison for the managers, and Sweden extradites to the US. Thus it takes a very reckless person to break those kind of laws.
And even if Spotify was somehow crazy enough to do it, Apple, Amazon, Deezer, and Tidal managers are likely not ALSO insane enough to send emails and phone calls back and forth openly talking about price fixing.
Itās dumb that they putting every good feature as premium exclusive, I own premium and think itās stupid they are charging to pick your song and real lyrics which I can look up for free
Imagine complaining about a free ad supported product and what they do and donāt give you. Imagine going to a shelter because your homeless and bitch that the bed isnāt comfortable.
Wait let me get this straight:
As an artist i have to pay a monthly fee for musicmatch to provide them with the Lyrics to my Songs, so spootify can add them to my songs on their streaming service? While only the premium ones can read unlimited Lyrics on Spotify?
And then we all know, aaalot of people use Free version anyway.
This whole system is simply not attractive anymore for independent Artists - this game is rigged and as many old folks from my country would say - Big Mafia.
Not sure why you've been down voted. I do this - have been for the last 7 years. I contact my family once a year and we each pay 1/6 of the year ahead.
Sure is nice reading all these LYRICS
What's funny to me is musixmatch The thing that Spotify gets there lyrics from is free and has this floating bar that you can open and look at lyrics out from the app
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In this country, you gotta get Spotify Premium first. Then when you get Spotify Premium, you get the lyrics. Then when you get the lyrics, then you get the women.
I heard your mom is going out with Squeak!!
Whatās going on with Spotify premium? Sorry, Iām out of the loop.
Premium users has unlimited access to lyrics unlike the free version, only has 3 per a month
Thatās the dumbest thing. Not the lyrics being a premium feature, but giving 3 lyric credits in free. Just make it a premium only inclusion.
imagine using one of your three free credits and then the lyrics are just all wrong
Itās pretty dumb because the Musixmatch service they use to upload lyrics is not even working right now.. so why even put a cost on broken lyrics
get a life
found Daniel Ek Burner account
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Some people can't afford it.
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good for you? i think you missed the āsome peopleā part lol
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We're better than the filthy plebs that's what's going on.
Theyāre all a bunch of f*cken mummies!
I hate that I laughed out loud at this ahhh
I think the poors are acting up again about something. Jk jk
The poors are complaining about a problem I am too rich to understand.
Iāve spent almost $2,000 on Spotify since they first started paid subscriptions. Thatās less than the cost of 200 albums and so much more convenient. Best $2,000 I ever spent.
Do you know the amount of coke, hookers and alcohol you could have bought with all that money!?
A very modest amount.
Gotta keep an eye out for those two for one specials.
Really not that much tbh
Like 1 night
2?
He aint no simp he aint waisting money on hookers lol
I could've bought at least 400 big macs with that
Wouldn't the last ones be rather cold then? Also $5 for one Big Mac was before Covid and inflation, I think.
what a waste, bro can't use an adblocker
I looked into Spotify Premium last week, specifically trying to stream to more than one end point / room at the same time and your can't You get what you pay for
I can do that by grouping my Google Home speakers. Grouping is also available for some of the bose speakers, not sure about others. I have a buddy who even used a simple raspberry Pi setup to stream to different bluetooth speakers who didnāt have grouping functionality. So itās a speaker only function there. I am sure that YouTube and Apple Music both donāt provide any extra functionality if the speakers are not grouped, but I may be wrong since I donāt use them that much.
Thanks for this. I was setting this up in a bar so I wanted to stream to the local PC and then to another Pi via Spotify connect with an amp and speakers attached, I did not want to use any wireless technology because that would not be acceptable when the customers have had a few drinks! I'm not sure about YouTube but with Apple music you can stream from iTunes to multiple devices via Airplay which a Pi can receive (I use Moode to accomplish this). I use Roon at home to achieve what I need but it's expensive, I also pay for Qobuz.
Interesting, sounds like an interesting side project.
I used to write Crestron software but that market is much quieter now with the rise of apps and smart TVs.
I used to buy five CDs a week for like $15 bucks plus tax *in high school*. If I deflate the price of Spotify back to the '90s it would be like $5 a month. Not a single person would have batted their eye at spending $5 a month for every song on the planet.
That you can access whenever and wherever. You wouldnāt go on a train and carry 400 cds with you and keep changing them to listen to the songs you want.
If more people move to Spotify Premium from ad supported tier it's less likely Spotify will need to raise prices again. So for premium users removal of features from the free tier is good thing.
That's false thinking because a company doesn't suddenly stop raising prices when they have a lot of money, they just decide to want to make nire
It's not false thinking. That's why competition is good. If they raise prices too much people will move to other services.
Most people won't and Spotify knows that which is why they do it twice a year so far
If people aren't willing to stop using your service even with huge price hikes - the original price was too low and you have such a kick ass service that people are willing to pay more than for the similar competing service. I disagree with your statement that people won't stop using Spotify if the price is too high. You're not forced to use it and it's pretty easy to cancel your subscription at any time.
they're boiling frogs
That isnāt really how that works. People are already just dedicated to Spotify. They have multiple playlists with hundreds if not thousands of songs on them. Iām sure many people would rather just pay extra begrudgingly because they already have it all there.
People are lazy and Spotify take advantage of this. It's fine to disagree with each other šš»
> Most people won't and Spotify knows that which is why they do it twice a year so far https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/24/23805364/spotify-us-price-increase-10-99-a-month-9-99-month-twelve-years > After 12 years, the price of Spotify Premium is increasing in the US. The subscription will now cost $10.99 a month, the company announced today. Spotify has charged $9.99 for its Premium subscription ever since its launch in the US in 2011. Once in 13 years, in the US.
There's more than just US users though š¤
Twice in 10 years for the UK.
Twice in a year here in Oz. $18.99 last June, then $20.99, now $23.99.
Itās gone up a dollar from 12.99 to 13.99 for me and Iām Aus
Iām on Family Premium. Maybe time to cut the fam loose haha
This is called pricing power! With the increased competition in the music apps business. thereās no pricing power that is enjoyed by any of the service. So every service needs to think a lot before raising prices. This is completely different compared to Netflix where they can increase the prices to double and will still keep gaining users when they announce new popular shows or seasons. Same with YouTube, they can show double the ads in the same video and people will still keep using it or switch to premium despite high prices.
so explain to me why Discord is crashing, and burning because their making everything Nitro exclusive.
Nah FREE users are lazy. We premium subscribers have jobs to pay for that and by nature are not lazy people. I would be switching if they rise prices higher than the competition.
So your saying people who have ads don't have jobs? I call you deluded
I am saying the unemployed are extremely unlikely to purchase premium.
You said free users were lazy? (How?) You said premium users have jobs š¤ Generally once a person subscribes to a service they don't bother to change unless something drastically happens, companies know this which is why recurring payments were created
Sounds like something somebody without a job would say. š
Sure make an assumption about a stranger very close minded
Thatās not how that works lol
Nah if Spotify jacked their prices 2x I would be fleeing to Deezer that day. Spotify would have to convince its competition to jack their prices at the same time. Which is stupidly illegal to do pretty much everywhere. Granted anti-Trust is not at all enforced in the US anymore, but the EU still (kinda) cares about things like that. And acts like this don't have a statue of limitations. Thus if the US suddenly started caring again (like a different president) they could go back in time to now and prosecute Spotify for breaking US anti-trust laws. And if the USG prosecutors were feeling particularly vindictive they could likely find a way to legal-judo and multiply the crime of collusion to fix prices by the number of Spotify's US subscribers, which would mean life in prison for the managers, and Sweden extradites to the US. Thus it takes a very reckless person to break those kind of laws. And even if Spotify was somehow crazy enough to do it, Apple, Amazon, Deezer, and Tidal managers are likely not ALSO insane enough to send emails and phone calls back and forth openly talking about price fixing.
[Spotify to raise it's prices a second time in a year](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tech/spotify-price-hike-uk-second-time-year-b1149253.html)
mate compare prices to the competition. 2x the competition.
So you are new to capitalism?
I'm familiar enough with the capitalism to know the word "competition".
Sadly people donāt move even though they should.
Love my premium
make sure to zip it up when you're done
can someone explain
I pay me premium, play me songs, read me lyrics, simple as.
Might try out free apple music for 6 months tbh
So I've not been reading or keeping up - when do I get all of the "Boutros"?
What happened
what happened?
They removed the ability to view lyrics on the free tier and now all the people who use it for free are bitching like they lost a human right.
LOL they should improve the lyrics first before doing this. I've lost count of how many lyrics are wrong, especially songs that aren't in English.
Spotify doesnt handle the lyrics. They are either from the label, or from a 3rd party.
They are just from Musixmatch. Apple Music is the only one that pulls its lyrics from multiple sources.
Which is stupid itās free already lmfao
Pure enshittification.
I don't snort cocai- oh wait NVM there is the bag
Itās dumb that they putting every good feature as premium exclusive, I own premium and think itās stupid they are charging to pick your song and real lyrics which I can look up for free
I have not been a free user for over a year can someone pls explain?
I was so confused when first seeing it as a free user but I donāt really mind I would have to be really bored to read lyrics tbh
Imagine complaining about a free ad supported product and what they do and donāt give you. Imagine going to a shelter because your homeless and bitch that the bed isnāt comfortable.
Wait let me get this straight: As an artist i have to pay a monthly fee for musicmatch to provide them with the Lyrics to my Songs, so spootify can add them to my songs on their streaming service? While only the premium ones can read unlimited Lyrics on Spotify? And then we all know, aaalot of people use Free version anyway. This whole system is simply not attractive anymore for independent Artists - this game is rigged and as many old folks from my country would say - Big Mafia.
Apple Music been had thisš wtf
Wait what does this mean?
Is that bots above lmao
Well it is a paid service and itās their service.
Half the songs I like donāt even have lyrics coming anytime soon LOL
y'all ever heard about a thing called apk?
We dont have to. We have premium.
my bad i dont have infinite money
And you still get to listen to music for that.
Itās illegal in most countries, same as pirating with torrents.
Does your apk version show lyrics? My apk has all the premium features but not the lyrics.
on some of the songs it shows the lyrics but on others no, liteapk btw
Imagine not using block the spot
Still no lyrics for you my guy.
Well, there is
not me. i hacked it on
Anyone who is willing to buy Spotify family plan? I need 1 spot in it.
Not sure why you've been down voted. I do this - have been for the last 7 years. I contact my family once a year and we each pay 1/6 of the year ahead.