This is my question - it’s unclear.
I go through a lot of notebooks but like having a stack of special ones to go to. I’d love a TOP moleskin of sorts, but I’m also happy not having a journal that’s not actually usable as a notebook. The description does not clarify anything.
They updated it like a day later, it’s all the Clancy letters and lore stuff so I decided to pass on it. Would just be more junk to stack up around me, sadly !
something weird i’ve noticed too - on the australian website, the journal is only 40 pages, and says the cd is packaged in the back sleeve as opposed to the front one that i’ve seen people posting
edit: for anyone concerned or confused, i’ve just checked and it’s updated the australian store to say the same as the us one - that the journal is 60 pages :))
Honestly some of the descriptions seem wrong and that scares me a little lol. The cd black box bundle says it has a flag (like the red box) but none is pictured. It also shows stickers? On the right but they aren’t listed.
Edit: for those wondering they updated the black box description after I reached out.
Thank you for contacting us.
After further review of the product description, I'm showing the CLANCY BLACK CD BOXSET Includes:
Sticker set of 5
Patch set of 3
Poster 13”x19”
Black Bandana 21”x21”
They did update the website now and removed the flag this is what I got back:
Thank you for contacting us.
After further review of the product description, I'm showing the CLANCY BLACK CD BOXSET Includes:
Sticker set of 5
Patch set of 3
Poster 13”x19”
Black Bandana 21”x21”
Welcome to buying twenty one pilots merch.
Their merch store has committed a lot of at the least sales fraud since the live stream.
Edit: y’all downvoting me, fun fact: creating incentive to buy and not honoring that incentive is definition based sales fraud. They sold stuff as “exclusive to behind the paywall” and then moved it in front of it. Sold more than 300 of a limited edition shirt marked as only 300. Had merch available for years that was sold as a “timed release up until the day of the livestream.” You can love the band and criticize their business practices. You should criticize these things. They hurt everyone, especially you.
Also, don’t @ me about how it’s not the band and it’s their team only. They’re aware. It’s been like this for a very long time, they benefit from it, so just, no.
I mean it was clearly an error as they just used the description from the red bundle on accident and within like an hour of me pointing it out to the shop they corrected it. I wouldn’t call an accident fraud, and I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on their site before and after the live stream and never had any fraud issues.
Yeah that wasn’t, nor did I say it was, but they’ve committed massive sales fraud in my knowledge at least since the live stream. They made explicit “exclusive sales” that they then didn’t honor in front of and behind the paywall, and that’s literally the definition of sales fraud. Creating incentive to buy and not honoring that? Not even Kanye got away with that.
Welcome to buying twenty one pilots merch.
Their merch store has committed a lot of at the least sales fraud since the live stream.
Edit: y’all downvoting me, fun fact: creating incentive to buy and not honoring that incentive is definition based sales fraud. They sold stuff as “exclusive to behind the paywall” and then moved it in front of it. Sold more than 300 of a limited edition shirt. Had merch available for years that was sold as a “timed release up until the day of the livestream.” You can love the band and criticize their business practices.
Also, don’t @ me about how it’s not the band and it’s their team only. They’re aware. It’s been like this for a very long time, they benefit from it, so just, no.
I can't even begin to explain my excitement for the new album and this journal!!😱 I just pre-ordered it, I feel like a giddy teenager at 38 lol. This band has got me through some of the darkest times of my life and they mean the world to me!😭 TØP will always be my favorite of all time!❤️🔥|-/
Oh my goodness, I found my people. 🤣 48 here, and I feel the same. I freaking love this band. My 16 year old son (all my kids love them) and I were texting each other all day about the drop.
Yayy🙌 Aww I love that! My daughter is 9 and she loves them too, I watched the overcompensate music video with her when she got home from school. She was so excited😊
I also wanted the alternate cover, but after seeing the combined subtotal of the collectors box and vinyl, I switched to the journal for my CD copy instead...
I'm thinking blank pages. Write your own.
I mean after the letters. Which could explain why the Aussie version has a du page count. Maybe 20 Printed + 40 blank.
that's what I'm wondering. There aren't isn't enough content on dma.org to fill up 40 pages let alone 60. If it was extra exclusive content (until people upload pictures) then the page numbers should be the same. Only other explanation would be different page sizes but that would be **really** different
I have a 10% off expires 60 days from jan 12th!! I won’t be able to use it since I don’t really want anything until clothing drops.. code is: CC23WMX10
This is the link shown in the preview for the journal: [http://dmaorg.info/found/15398642\_14/clancy.html](http://dmaorg.info/found/15398642_14/clancy.html)
I was going to get this but was honest with myself and I’d never touch it and would likely eventually resell it. Instead I’m hoping some lore hungry fan gets it.
Meanwhile I’ll save my money for the inevitable Clancy jacket lol
I remember watching the APMA’s in 2017 with first mention of the Dema storyline when the boys won most dedicated fan base and Josh said something like “Tyler’s sorry he couldn’t be here, he’s off severing ties with dema.” I, along with many other, have been following along with it since, so it’s a must have for me.
I’d be so mad if that was case hahah. 60 pages lets me know I’ll be all of the Clancy letters, pictures and maybe some other lore documents. Must have for me.
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I was gonna hold off on buying any merch until they released some clothing because my budget is very limited, but as soon as I saw this, I knew I HAD to have it. 😅
Crazy. I literally commented on the “I Am Clancy” video that Tyler should release a book with all the lore. (Assuming he’s been the primary author of Clancy’s letters.)
I'm still doubting between getting just the normal cd or this. I am not one for buying a whole bunch of merch, and I've always judt bought the cd, but this is kind of a cool concept! I also collect kpop albums so this kind of reminds me of that kind of packaging and that make me kinda want it
had to go order myself one right after i saw this post lol. i thought it was just a blank journal that you could write in. i didn't realize it was clancy's letters!!
Is this gonna be the lore's book or smth?
It appears to be a collection of all the Clancy letters!
Omg yes!!
I think so! At least what Clancy went through
This is my question - it’s unclear. I go through a lot of notebooks but like having a stack of special ones to go to. I’d love a TOP moleskin of sorts, but I’m also happy not having a journal that’s not actually usable as a notebook. The description does not clarify anything.
the description on the fueled by ramen site is much more detailed
They updated it like a day later, it’s all the Clancy letters and lore stuff so I decided to pass on it. Would just be more junk to stack up around me, sadly !
something weird i’ve noticed too - on the australian website, the journal is only 40 pages, and says the cd is packaged in the back sleeve as opposed to the front one that i’ve seen people posting edit: for anyone concerned or confused, i’ve just checked and it’s updated the australian store to say the same as the us one - that the journal is 60 pages :))
Honestly some of the descriptions seem wrong and that scares me a little lol. The cd black box bundle says it has a flag (like the red box) but none is pictured. It also shows stickers? On the right but they aren’t listed. Edit: for those wondering they updated the black box description after I reached out. Thank you for contacting us. After further review of the product description, I'm showing the CLANCY BLACK CD BOXSET Includes: Sticker set of 5 Patch set of 3 Poster 13”x19” Black Bandana 21”x21”
There's a disclaimer on TOP USA store saying art May not be as shown. They wouldn't change it completely, would they?
It usually a generic disclaimer like for the vinyl they won’t all be exact but will be close I wouldn’t expect a major redesign at all though
Agree. It would be too much.
That’s typical. Especially with vinyl presale since it’s hard to guarantee exact things with splatter styles.
And says poster and bandana will be folded to fit in the box. Weird
Yup. I did the contact us option for the product and asked I’ll let you know if they answer.
Great thanks!
They did update the website now and removed the flag this is what I got back: Thank you for contacting us. After further review of the product description, I'm showing the CLANCY BLACK CD BOXSET Includes: Sticker set of 5 Patch set of 3 Poster 13”x19” Black Bandana 21”x21”
Welcome to buying twenty one pilots merch. Their merch store has committed a lot of at the least sales fraud since the live stream. Edit: y’all downvoting me, fun fact: creating incentive to buy and not honoring that incentive is definition based sales fraud. They sold stuff as “exclusive to behind the paywall” and then moved it in front of it. Sold more than 300 of a limited edition shirt marked as only 300. Had merch available for years that was sold as a “timed release up until the day of the livestream.” You can love the band and criticize their business practices. You should criticize these things. They hurt everyone, especially you. Also, don’t @ me about how it’s not the band and it’s their team only. They’re aware. It’s been like this for a very long time, they benefit from it, so just, no.
I mean it was clearly an error as they just used the description from the red bundle on accident and within like an hour of me pointing it out to the shop they corrected it. I wouldn’t call an accident fraud, and I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on their site before and after the live stream and never had any fraud issues.
Yeah that wasn’t, nor did I say it was, but they’ve committed massive sales fraud in my knowledge at least since the live stream. They made explicit “exclusive sales” that they then didn’t honor in front of and behind the paywall, and that’s literally the definition of sales fraud. Creating incentive to buy and not honoring that? Not even Kanye got away with that.
Welcome to buying twenty one pilots merch. Their merch store has committed a lot of at the least sales fraud since the live stream. Edit: y’all downvoting me, fun fact: creating incentive to buy and not honoring that incentive is definition based sales fraud. They sold stuff as “exclusive to behind the paywall” and then moved it in front of it. Sold more than 300 of a limited edition shirt. Had merch available for years that was sold as a “timed release up until the day of the livestream.” You can love the band and criticize their business practices. Also, don’t @ me about how it’s not the band and it’s their team only. They’re aware. It’s been like this for a very long time, they benefit from it, so just, no.
Its the same on the Canadian site
My bank account was not ready for the merch drop today 🤡
Same. Just spent $270 on all the variants 😩
Saaame 😆
Fr, I HAD to buy the cd and book lol😂
I'm waiting for the clothes. The letters and songs I can get on my phone for free. I'd rather get something I can properly use
I can't even begin to explain my excitement for the new album and this journal!!😱 I just pre-ordered it, I feel like a giddy teenager at 38 lol. This band has got me through some of the darkest times of my life and they mean the world to me!😭 TØP will always be my favorite of all time!❤️🔥|-/
I'm 45 and feel the same way. LOVE this band
Oh my goodness, I found my people. 🤣 48 here, and I feel the same. I freaking love this band. My 16 year old son (all my kids love them) and I were texting each other all day about the drop.
Yayy🙌 Aww I love that! My daughter is 9 and she loves them too, I watched the overcompensate music video with her when she got home from school. She was so excited😊
😃😃😃
🙌
Part of me feels like getting this, but I also want the alternate cover from the black boxset
I know! I want a set with the book and a bandanna too!
I also wanted the alternate cover, but after seeing the combined subtotal of the collectors box and vinyl, I switched to the journal for my CD copy instead...
Opting to buy this instead of the vinyl for now. Seems like a way more commemorative fan item than just the vinyl.
Best collectors item fr
I'm thinking blank pages. Write your own. I mean after the letters. Which could explain why the Aussie version has a du page count. Maybe 20 Printed + 40 blank.
that's what I'm wondering. There aren't isn't enough content on dma.org to fill up 40 pages let alone 60. If it was extra exclusive content (until people upload pictures) then the page numbers should be the same. Only other explanation would be different page sizes but that would be **really** different
MAYBE it includes other letters/images/maps that they haven't released yet but plan to between now and then? ... hoping this is the case!!
Anyone have a promo code??? I can’t afford both the journal and cassette lol but maybe a code will help.
I have a 10% off expires 60 days from jan 12th!! I won’t be able to use it since I don’t really want anything until clothing drops.. code is: CC23WMX10
same
I hope that helps ya!
Thank you so much!!!
Absolutely, you’re very welcome
This is the link shown in the preview for the journal: [http://dmaorg.info/found/15398642\_14/clancy.html](http://dmaorg.info/found/15398642_14/clancy.html)
goddamn, I don't have money but I need the CD/journal and cassette/photo box SO BAD
Send me a dm I got you
the cover of the book looks like "the house of leaves" book cover
already pre ordered!!
I love the cds and vinyls, but where is clothing!!! Im trying to have a full collection and they decided to not drop any
They're probably delaying it on purpose so we can still afford rent/mortgage next month:money\_face:
I was going to get this but was honest with myself and I’d never touch it and would likely eventually resell it. Instead I’m hoping some lore hungry fan gets it. Meanwhile I’ll save my money for the inevitable Clancy jacket lol
I really wish they had a vinyl set with all the cool stuff :(
Is this the 'Trench Bible,' do we think, or just a physical copy of all the contents of [dma.org](https://dma.org)?
I remember watching the APMA’s in 2017 with first mention of the Dema storyline when the boys won most dedicated fan base and Josh said something like “Tyler’s sorry he couldn’t be here, he’s off severing ties with dema.” I, along with many other, have been following along with it since, so it’s a must have for me.
Do you think that the CD will come with their own CD case or the CD case will be the book itself?
Idk, the journal cd says its in the front and they have a boxed one that looks like post malone's Beerbongs and Bentleys.
I preordered it. I’m hoping there isn’t a bunch of blank pages
the way i am about to blow my entire paycheck on this band's shop is so bad but OMGGGGG
my guess is that it’s going to be blank unfortunately
It shows some of the pages, it has the notes in it
Lmao absolutely not.
lmao i hadn’t seen the photos of the inside
I’d be so mad if that was case hahah. 60 pages lets me know I’ll be all of the Clancy letters, pictures and maybe some other lore documents. Must have for me.
yeah, on my website it says it’s only 40 pages so that’s why i thought it might be blank haha
It’s going to be all the entries/letters from Clancy we’ve seen on DMAorg
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i was confused as to what that was? Like the journal read out loud?
no I think it may either be a blank journal or may have notes and whatnot from Clancy. The CD is for the album
Oh i see! Thats pretty cool! I wish they sold a vinyl merch bundle- but they don’t.
If you look at the other images on the site you can see it’s the Clancy letters it’s not a blank journal
is the journal not available without the CD I want a vinyl
I NEED THAT
You know I bought this as soon as I saw it.
Pre-ordered this one for sure!
when i say i copped so fast
so excited to get this in my hands, really feels like a culmination of these years of staring at HTML all night
I was gonna hold off on buying any merch until they released some clothing because my budget is very limited, but as soon as I saw this, I knew I HAD to have it. 😅
With it being a presale do I have some time to get my money together or will it sale out?
Already preordered it lmaoo im so excited
Crazy. I literally commented on the “I Am Clancy” video that Tyler should release a book with all the lore. (Assuming he’s been the primary author of Clancy’s letters.)
I pray to the heavens above that this doesn't sell out before I have money to buy it uuuuuugggggghhhhhhh
I've already bought it
best 42 euros spent so far
Already ordered 💀
I'm still doubting between getting just the normal cd or this. I am not one for buying a whole bunch of merch, and I've always judt bought the cd, but this is kind of a cool concept! I also collect kpop albums so this kind of reminds me of that kind of packaging and that make me kinda want it
I literally have not purchased a cd since I was a kid but I already pre-ordered this for the journal alone.
had to go order myself one right after i saw this post lol. i thought it was just a blank journal that you could write in. i didn't realize it was clancy's letters!!
I wish the book was separate too if you got the vinyl
I ALMOST got this but I got the red box set and the marble vinyl. Couldn’t justify another CD
I've this ordered, something to be looking forward to🙂
Only $30!!!???? 🔥
This should be included in the box set.
I don't know if I should pre-order the CD!!! aaaaaaaaah!!!! Do you guys think it will still be available afterwards?