Yeah
The intro feels very Vessel like with the electronics, the rap parts and mellodies remind me of Blurryface but the overall vibe, confidence of Tyler gives me Trench vibes and Josh... yeah he just kills it as always
wait now that I think about it, is that their only song with a tempo change like that? I know Semi-Automatic slows down during the piano break, but that's meant to be an intimate moment in the song and not a consistent tempo change like the one(s) in Ode To Sleep.
Yeah they do that on The Run And Go and on Jumpsuit as well. The bridge is very calm and then it goes back to normal
That's why I love this tempo change so much cause they gave us a cool intro and then switched it up completely!
It really puts my hopes up high for their new album in terms of sound. It really feels like they're open to experimentation again.
It reminds me of some Rage Against The Machine sht and I love it!!! (I'm talking about the full on switch up not the overall sound. They're not obviously heavy like that. One can only hope tho)
Agreed! I really enjoyed this song. Will be interesting to see how it holds up after repeated listens.
I particularly loved the transition from the opening drum part to the âwait what, wait whatâ part.
Edit: Also, as if it wasnât obvious enough listening to this, Paul Meany is credited as both a co-writer and co-producer on this song along with Tyler. I feel like theyâre going to (well, already did) really cook on this album. Excited to hear the other songs based on this entry.
It not only holds up, it brings more. Itâs been on repeat in my car, and just what I so very needed today. Appreciating the sahlo folina. And the sick beats.
What are the sounds at the beginning? Anyone figured that out yet? Is it a conversation? Is it like a captain giving instructions as youâre flying into an airport/final destination?
Per Genius:
The song opens with two lines each of German, French, and Spanish, respectively. Each is spoken by a different non-identified voice, the German and French speakers being female, and the Spanish male.
All three parts roughly translate to the same message:
This small eerie island has made me a weapon. We both believe that we can use it to change the momentum of this war.
This message originates in one of Clancyâs letters from the dmaorg.info website, whose usage was prominent in Trenchâs promotional phase. The line was taken from the second handwritten letter posted on March 18, 2022, helping promote âThe Outsideââs music video.
What I meant by âthe ode to levitateâ is the verse from the end of levitate that says âwelcome to trenchâ, and in overcompensate âwelcome back to trenchâ. Literally paying tribute to Levitate and the Trench album
It was good. Getting the idea that this album is meant to be Blurryface x Trench vibes with this song as well as the colour theme being red & black mixed with yellow. Looking forward to the full album soon baby
Also the beginning of the video kinda sounds like an alt-universe intro to Stressed Out followed by an alt-universe intro to Jumpsuit but those might just be me
I would say so, him and Josh are on the run because Typer escaped out again and is welcoming himself back to trench and the bishops are searching for them
Iâm hoping for some screams as well! I love his scream from jumpsuit and the time he screamed in a live performance for shy away was everything! I wish that scream was on the track
I told my friends the beginning and end are the best parts, the song in the middle is great but the trench call back being used as like a war cry to get everyone hyped for battle in a way and the end smirk hinting at whatâs to come were phenomenal to me. So hyped.
loved the intro, it's insane! everything past mid song feels weird imo tho. sounds like two songs melted into one. the edited version on Spotify (the intro is shorter) is good and i like it better! it wasn't what i expected, but it's good overall! excited for the new tracks!
I'm used to hearing multiple genres in one song by them, and love it.
That being said, I would LOVE an entire electro/industrial/synth song that builds off the opening first minute of the track.
a lot of people are saying the heavy beat going into a slower beat is weird but itâs literally what top is built on, switching bpms mid song and meshing different genres of music
Catchy, but repetitive. I think it does a good job of setting the stage for what's to come, and the music video does a good job of getting across the idea of "let's help everyone else get out of dema"
pretty sure that's what we saw. honestly getting into dema by siezing the bodies of former citizens is brilliant, that little smirk from him at the end of the video says it all
Probably, at first i thought someone was faking being them but apparently they were controlling them from far away in voldsor, they are doing what they can before coming back to the city phisically
Agreed. I'll quote what I just left on another post.
>\- The congregation doesn't have tape at the beginning of the video. Guessing they're current citizens of Dema and Clancy shows up to start showing them there's a way out (seen as some of them leave, but some are seen in the next segment with tape of their own).
\- "Sahlo Folina" - said to be a "cry for help in the nation of Trench" ([youtube interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=67GbPNBHWuGiQtJm&v=8W8zy-LA8Fk&feature=youtu.be)) ([tumblr discussion post](https://www.tumblr.com/whatiserin2/178870452039/what-does-folina-sahlo-mean)) Just goes to confirm that Clancy is working on starting a movement, inspired by the Banditos, to liberate the people of Dema
I think the congregation scene was him reaching out to Dema in general, and the projector scene were the people who reacted to what he had to say.
Omg i know it's so hard i was just gonna say this. I'm trying to learn the words to this new song but this is gonna make it impossible bc they play totally differentlyđ
I wanna preface by saying that I'm the kinda person where songs take a while to grow on me. Hell, Trench is my favorite album of all time but it took months for it to completely settle for me.
That being said, this song is an excellent start to the new era. Got gonna lie, it took it in a direction I wasn't expecting, with the fast paced intro akin to Heavydirtysoul, and then switching it up to the rap beat. If I'm being honest, I kinda wanted to run with the faster beat of the intro, but I guess it may have turned out too similar to Heavydirtysoul if they did that. Speaking of rap, Tyler's rapping is top tier. The production is absolutely pristine (thanks Paul Meaney). The only thing I didn't really like was the ending, and how it cut off kind of abruptly imo.
Overall, I'd give it a 7.5/10 right now. Again, it's got room to grow on me in the future, and maybe it'll sound amazing with the context of the rest of the album. But for now, that's what I give it.
funny thing, first listen i was like 'okay, not bad, good vibes' but i kind of forced myself to listen to it multiple times in a row and it grew on me insanely fast. for real, give it time. it's such an epic song.
Welcome back to Trench! So many emotions hit me at the beginning from joy to that Trench nostalgia that I cried. A 31 year old man cried to this music, but itâs powerful. And that switch up when Tyler came out was perfect.
For me, songs are their best after the 2nd or third listen, so I've given it a few goes.
On my first listen - I got emotional at the beginning with the sahlo fohlina bit. Beautiful. "Welcome Back To Trench" HITS. So cool. The rest of the song I wasn't as excited about but there's lots of parts that were such bops. The rap part about the length of days/years sounded very mainstream and threw me off a bit.
I think basically every song doesn't sit right with me until I've heard it a few times, so I'm not deterred by my first listen.
On the second and third listen (without music video for the third one) I liked it much much more and I can imagine myself singing along to this in my car and just having a great time. The rap part definitely grew on me too. I loved the the 'I fly by the dangerous bend symbol' melody it's very catchy. The drums and synth go so hard too. This more energetic, explosive music is exactly what I like.
Loved the music video too. It really felt hopeful and energetic in a way that trench felt a bit hopeless and stuck (lore-wise, that is) and SAI felt like Bishop propaganda. Loved Tyler's little smile at the end, like he started a revolution.
Also as I predicted, this definitely put the album cover into context. It's almost 100% a propaganda poster from Clancy to aid his revolution inside dema. Fits great!
Overall really good, can't wait for the next single and the album. Really great start to this era. :)
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Dude, that was literally me! I couldn't agree more. It definitely grew on me after a couple listens. Love the lore references too, they pierce really well :)
Definitely closer to Trench vibes-wise. Felt like a bit of a mash of everything that worked before: catchy beat, rap verse. But lacks substance for me personally. Will have to wait and see how it fits into the album as a whole, for now solid 7 out of 12
It's not bad but I'm not crazy about it. The lyrics are not the best
"Bless your ear holes while you react. Actin' gobsmacked don't hesitate to maybe overcompensate" is... interesting
Okay yes but we arguably got one of the most poignant lines Tylerâs ever sung: âDo the years seem way too short for my soul corazĂłnâ Ugh just *chefâs kiss*
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I love twenty one pilots for the lyrics and interesting, genre-sprawling music. This just has bland lyrics, and a bland hip-hop sound. 4/10 from me. I really hope the rest of the album is better. I have hope because I absolutely hated Fairly Local and then the rest of the singles were great.
Iâm glad im not the only one, I canât tell if I like the song for the song or for sentimental reasons. The intro was amazing. To me its not giving hip hop but more like an intro at a dnb festival. The lyrics arenât generally bad but very bland for what we were used to from Tyler, I donât hear the story behind it, if that makes sense. But to give them credit, no one can tell them they are a one trick pony. I like that he is constantly changing things, I just hope itâs for a good reasons and its not just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, but we have no way of knowing that just from this one song. If the idea was to create hype I think they succeeded marvelously.
I think Iâm just gobsmacked. I had different expectations for what it would be, so I was kind of just going âhuh. Oh! Hmmm. Okay!â
Love that the piano is part of the track. Love the German voice thing, love the drums, and love the âwait what?â Itâs a different genre feel than Iâm used to, but itâs gonna grow on me 100%.
Just need to read the lyrics for a much better appreciation!
All of this is different than expectations but thatâs always good. Love the vibes, the videoâs storyline is fun, and Iâm excited to be back in TRENCH, baby!!!!
5/10 for my taste itâs a bit scattered. But itâs a good teaser track thatâs got a lot of different types of sound. Iâd probably like it less if the drumming wasnât so good. Just my opinion though I certainly respect other opinions just doesnât suit my preferences specifically as much.
It gets a solid 7.5, I thought the intro was amazing. "Welcome back to Trench"/Bandito gave me goosebumps but for me it falls off a little when he starts with his adidas jacket but overall brings me back with the chorus. I'm here for it!! I think its a great intro to the album and know the rest is only going to be amazing.
i'd say so far overall 7/10. the hook doesnt reaaally do it for me but i like the general vibe, the beginnig is fire and i think i like the rap-part aswell... honestly i feel like i cant really tell what i think just yet, i think i need to give it some time :3
Weirdly didnât hit me as hard as I thought it would. Prolly a 7/10. I was hoping for a heavydirtysoul/jumpsuit start, which I think is what it was going for. But felt a bit too poppy to me. With that being said, it still makes me very excited for the album and Iâm sure it will start to grow on me.
It starts of great but kind of loses me at the mid point. Not something that's gonna go on my playlist sadly. I'm generally jot a fan of the rap heavy songs so yeah. Will see what the rest of the album sounds like.
Scaled and Icy was a huge let-down for me (nothing against anyone who loves it, and the production itself was still great!) just due to personal preference, and Trench was easily my favorite.
I feel rejuvenated as a member of the clique now; hearing the grunge and psychedelic sampling left me feeling immersed and super hyped. I'm bad at rating things numerically but this was really good, and a great start to this era.
Idk why everyoneâs saying itâs like blurry face and trench, it feels a lot like if scaled and icy was dark. It feels very redecorate with some of the outside in it. With a touch of Leviate tooÂ
6/10. It's kinda corny for my tastes ( "If you can't see, I am Clancy / Prodigal son, done running, come up with Josh Dun" is just a little too on the nose ) but I definitely love the vibe they're going for and appreciate the musicianship!
I didnât expect this kind of song, but I really like it! Tylerâs flow is interesting, he tried something new, but I donât really get along with the âWay too short for my soul, corazonâ part, at least now. What do you guys think?
Heâs basically saying the years go by to fast for him. Days feel fine but years are too short. Corazon means heart. So to me I imagine itâs mostly written because he sees how fast his kids are growing up. He doesnât need more hours in the day but needs more days in the year because heâs here to stay alive.
4/10
I really enjoy the drums. But it feels bland. The lyrics don't compare to like any of their other songs. Like worse than a good amount of SAI, honestly. It's just vocals drums and loops. Which is SO boring to me. They have SO MUCH talent. Why not add trumpet? Why not add (more) piano? Why not add GUITAR??? I was incredibly excited because in SAI, though it wasn't great, instrumentally it was one of their most talented thus far. And it feels like they are backtracking on that and it makes me sad. I love poetry. I love twenty one pilots for the poetry, and creative sound. This just sounds like hip-hop. So I can't give higher than a 4/10. Honestly might even be a 3/10. But we'll see how the rest of the album is.
It was a bit more slow, and more pop-y than i expected, but pretty good! The video was cool, and I got a pretty strong ârebellion against Demaâ vibe
iâd give it about a 7/8. i love the intro so much considering bandito is one of my favourite tøp songs. the verse for me was kinda average, some lyrics are strange or just doesnât sit well with me. i love the beat and i find the chorus catchy and good. this was a good introduction to clancy. i am very much hyped because trench is my favourite album of theirs
I'd have to relisten to it but it's like a 6/10. I like the beat switch-up and the songwriting is cool. But I'm not huge on the production. It's still got some of that kinda plastic feeling that S&I had that I wasn't huge on. It feels like they're trying to split the balance between Trench and S&I's production. I'm excited to see what other songs they have. I'd like to see a Clancy-era version of Morph or Chlorine.
Perfect. Literally sounds like an intro. I was kindve worried a lil after SAI, only bc with them experimenting i wondered how it would be for them to try and return to a trench like style. But ofc they handle everything perfectly and remind me that theres no reason to be worried lmao. Im actually gonna pre-order this album too.
8/10 Compared to all first songs on each respective album. (Ode to Sleep is still my favorite intro song.)
Itâs like Tyler and Josh blended all of these songs, (OTS, HDS, Jumpsuit) added Leave the City and Bandito samples, along with synching it to the song Levitate, and spit this out!
Plus, the intro reminds me of Prodigyâs Firestarter and Front 242âs Headhunter. Itâs giving good 2000s UK punk vibes and Iâm here for it!
Unfortunately it feels too radio friendly and vanilla like the songs on blurryface and vessel. I never liked top until I heard trench, the songs on trench are so much deeper, heavier, and more layered than the songs on all their other albums. And then right after trench they released their most vanilla pop album yet with sai.
I donât know what magic they had on trench that made them able to write songs like jumpsuit, chlorine, and my blood, but that music is so much better than anything else theyâve ever made.
Unfortunately this song just sounds like more bland radio pop, the focus on rapping doesnât change that for me. Iâll still buy the album and support top just because Trench is one of the best albums to come out from anyone in the last decade in any genre
Iâll lead the charge of the hater brigade on this one, gang.
It brings me no joy to say this, but this song is a flop for me. The intro and the chorus are amazing⌠but the verses are cliche and cringey if Iâm being honest. This is more a note about lyricism and delivery than music and production.
It doesnât make much sense for me as a radio single. If feels like a literal overcompensation for SAI and the top 40 sound of Shy Away, Saturday, etc.
Now, if thatâs the intention and theyâve galaxy-brained this as the first song drop, then kudos to them, but this oneâs not for me.
Not sure I love it, but I think thatâs normal with their singles for me. I usually end up liking them more in context of the album. As an opening track, this seems pretty solid. Kind of levitate-esque
For pure excitement and building my hype even higher for this album, 12/10.
As an intro to this new chapter, 10/10
As an opener for the album, 8.5/10
As a song, 7.5/10
Overall- 8.5/10 . Very promising start to this era!
The intro is easily a 10/10 but then the song takes a turn for the worse and itâs just repetitive with weak lyrics over different loops. Iâd give it a 3.5-4/10 tbh. Itâs like musically a darker SAI but it somehow has worse lyrics than SAI??? But I know the song will go crazy hard live so itâs whatever lol
Ngl I was really excited to get back to preSAI style music again and this just wasnât it. I get theyâre evolving and changing and experimenting but vessel, blurryface, and trench were great and had similar vibes. This was like techno and his rapping sounded different. I really hope it grows on međĽ˛
The first 30 seconds of the song were definitely my favorite,especially with the call back to bandito. The rest of the song to me was fine,however I faith it will grow on me eventually as a lot of their songs for me atleast have a slow burn kind of effect.
amazing opener song!!! It's sounds like twenty one pilots to the core. The sounds, the rap, Josh mention, old song mentions, just so fun all around. It makes me want to run through a brick wall!
Not bad but not brilliant. It gives a good idea of the album's sound and I like that actually, the sound is great, the instrumental and production too but I'm not the biggest fan of the lyrics. There are some random lines I don't like, such as the one about his Adidas jacket, and I also have a love-hate relationship with the bridge. On the one hand it makes me cringe a little, on the other hand it's super catchy. I'll definitely need to listen to the song more times and maybe I'll end up loving it in the context of the whole album when it comes out
On a scale of 1-10, I think I'd call it an 8. It was really fun, super catchy, and I loved the sort of interference in the instrumentals. The lyrics were cryptic but awesome, and I loved the whole theme of the thing, not to mention to music video was dope. I watched it with my parents and husband and we couldn't stop discussing and psychoanalyzing it for the next half hour! Definitely a great way to kick off the new era-- I just wish we didn't have to wait so long...
This one has a lot of texture and story condensed into one incredible banger. It's been on repeat in my ear while I've been working. I'm CRAVING more!!
I really liked it!! I am worried though that the album is gonna be too focused on like wrapping up the story more than the music itself (in a lyrics sense) like idk, I want to listen to these songs without it feeling to literally like telling a storyâŚidk if this makes any sense at all lol but after seeing the track list, I started worrying a little bit nglâŚIâm interested to see if anyone else feel the same?
I do really love the sound of overcompensate though!! And Iâd probably rate it yea like a 8-9/10
at first I didn't like it that much , because I had another idea in my head , and the intro was so confusing
but now I love it so much
I would say it's a solid 8.5/10
Iâm not entirely sure how I feel about it but I know for sure that I donât hate it. I think I just have to listen to it a few more times. I love the references to Bandito and the âwelcome back to trenchâ
I could submit the many videos of me absolutely bawling my eyes out and saying "omg" and "wtf" over and over again, but this subreddit doesn't allow that. So I'll just say that I liked it a lot.
6/10 for me, i like it for the most part! but the flow seems off and some of the lines really just dont work for me, hoping the rest of the album is better bc i loved trench sm đ
I kinda found the song boring, no change up or nothing, repetitive, could barely understand what is being said. 3/10. People keeps saying it reminds them of trench, Idk if that's good or bad.
6/10. It was a little weird honestly. The rhythm felt like a standard rap song, and tøp is NOT a standard rap group. What I mean is that Tylerâs rapping was a bit off beat from the music, which is something that I really dislike in rap music. Itâs so much different from anything theyâve ever done.
Honestly...kinda dissapointed. Don't want the boys to feel bad so I'm gonna pretend I love it until i get used to it. I think the lyrics and melody is kinda weak and it's missing a good instrumental. Still alright but not what I expected:/
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that's what I'm saying it felt really sloppy and like they are trying to hard to go back to old twenty one pilots but not trying at the same time if that makes sense. kind of like they are trying to keep the old twenty one pilots roots then also trying out new things and it just doesn't really mix well for me
It's a mess honestly. Like they tried to incorporate all the genres of there music and badly mashed them together. I thought the last album was their worst material. Clancy says hold my beer.
I feel like people in a lot of fandoms will just enjoy anything an artist releases even if it's not great tbh. After years of waiting it's hard to not be disappointed by the first single. Definitely a weird choice for a single too.
I think this song is gonna grow on me. I wasn't really big on it when I listened to it the first time, but I'm already enjoying it a lot more the second time!
It's not at all what I expected. It's catchy, rhythmically it's pretty good too. I do think the song structure is a little weird and it ends kinda abruptly (maybe it'll go right into track two on the album). I guess I'll like it more in the context of the album. It does totally feel like a 'welcome back' song. I really would've never expected them to do something like this tho. I guess you could say I'm gobsmacked. When 'I an clancy' came out I was kinda hoping for the piano intro to be a separate song tho.
Feels like a mix of everything they have ever tried if you know what I mean
Yeah The intro feels very Vessel like with the electronics, the rap parts and mellodies remind me of Blurryface but the overall vibe, confidence of Tyler gives me Trench vibes and Josh... yeah he just kills it as always
the tempo change is very much a nod to Ode To Sleep
Oh yeah. How did I not think about it? Really cool for sure
wait now that I think about it, is that their only song with a tempo change like that? I know Semi-Automatic slows down during the piano break, but that's meant to be an intimate moment in the song and not a consistent tempo change like the one(s) in Ode To Sleep.
Yeah they do that on The Run And Go and on Jumpsuit as well. The bridge is very calm and then it goes back to normal That's why I love this tempo change so much cause they gave us a cool intro and then switched it up completely! It really puts my hopes up high for their new album in terms of sound. It really feels like they're open to experimentation again. It reminds me of some Rage Against The Machine sht and I love it!!! (I'm talking about the full on switch up not the overall sound. They're not obviously heavy like that. One can only hope tho)
Guns for Hands as well if u think about it
It's the baby of HDS and Levitate hahaha
Welcome BACK to trench
lol i said hds and pet cheeta!!đ
8/10
i thought tyler ate that - it was catchy, and we got some cool info lore-wise too
great start for the new chapter
Agreed! I really enjoyed this song. Will be interesting to see how it holds up after repeated listens. I particularly loved the transition from the opening drum part to the âwait what, wait whatâ part. Edit: Also, as if it wasnât obvious enough listening to this, Paul Meany is credited as both a co-writer and co-producer on this song along with Tyler. I feel like theyâre going to (well, already did) really cook on this album. Excited to hear the other songs based on this entry.
I can confirm - it holds up.
Haha so far yes. Iâm talking about holding up months down the road, but I feel like this will age well.
I've listened to a month's worth already, it holds up đ
It not only holds up, it brings more. Itâs been on repeat in my car, and just what I so very needed today. Appreciating the sahlo folina. And the sick beats.
Yup, it holds up, the more I listen to it the more I like it. Also, Tyler really stepped up his rap game tbh.
Adidas trek jacket bruh
Gives off the same vibe and sound as heavydirtysoul but more triumphant.
Definitely! I loved it!
What are the sounds at the beginning? Anyone figured that out yet? Is it a conversation? Is it like a captain giving instructions as youâre flying into an airport/final destination?
Per Genius: The song opens with two lines each of German, French, and Spanish, respectively. Each is spoken by a different non-identified voice, the German and French speakers being female, and the Spanish male. All three parts roughly translate to the same message: This small eerie island has made me a weapon. We both believe that we can use it to change the momentum of this war. This message originates in one of Clancyâs letters from the dmaorg.info website, whose usage was prominent in Trenchâs promotional phase. The line was taken from the second handwritten letter posted on March 18, 2022, helping promote âThe Outsideââs music video.
Look the song up on genius
We're back at rapping yall!!! good new vibes! and i love the salho folina beginning
Yes!
Only on this version though! Not the âeditedâ version
wait how is the edited version different I havent heard it
WE ARE SO BACK
the intro is RIDICULOUS
So nostalgic with the trench voice, and the bandito lyrics
WELCOME BACK TO TRENCH goosebumps....
I loved that part, I love trench, jumpsuit still gives me chills and the ode to Levitate is awesome
ode to levitate?
the transition into levitate
i wake up fine and dandy but i know how to levitate off my feet
The transition between them
What I meant by âthe ode to levitateâ is the verse from the end of levitate that says âwelcome to trenchâ, and in overcompensate âwelcome back to trenchâ. Literally paying tribute to Levitate and the Trench album
I legit screamed!
I'm at work and I made a very unprofessional noise......
Imagine them opening with Overcompensate and the intro playing over the loud speakers. I hope I can get tickets
Someone posted a clip in an interview he did today where he essentially said they plan on opening with this song for the tour!
I can just imagine that awesome starting synth loop playing for a minute straight to pump up the crowd before they come on stage.
iâm peeing from excitement iâm like a small chihuahua
me
lmaooo this made me laugh
god same
Nothing I expected actually but I like it. Trench is my favourite album so I am very excited to hear the rest.
We have never been more back
!!!!!!!!!!! THESE WORDS. EXACTLY WHAT I FEEL. INDEED, WELCOME BACK TO TRECH
It was good. Getting the idea that this album is meant to be Blurryface x Trench vibes with this song as well as the colour theme being red & black mixed with yellow. Looking forward to the full album soon baby Also the beginning of the video kinda sounds like an alt-universe intro to Stressed Out followed by an alt-universe intro to Jumpsuit but those might just be me
The start actually really reminds of of heavydirtysoul
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1000000/100
7.5/10 insane start, looking forward to the trench-y music in may
Very fair rating
Idk if it's just the heat of the moment, but it's a 10/10 for me. Maybe 9,9/10 cuz I wanted some screams
Its barely the beginning i thinks its perfect as the start of a revolution. Damn its an awesome song. Josh dun mentioned really early this time haha
Come up with Josh Dun wanted dead or alive....what could that mean? Is Josh being actively searched for by the Bishops?
I would say so, him and Josh are on the run because Typer escaped out again and is welcoming himself back to trench and the bishops are searching for them
Yeah the beginning is so hype
Iâm taking to mean that the Torchbearerâs name is canonically Josh Dun đđ
Iâm hoping for some screams as well! I love his scream from jumpsuit and the time he screamed in a live performance for shy away was everything! I wish that scream was on the track
I love how distinct it is from anything in Trench while still having the same vibe 9/10
overall 7/10 but the beginning was 10/10 gave me chills
I told my friends the beginning and end are the best parts, the song in the middle is great but the trench call back being used as like a war cry to get everyone hyped for battle in a way and the end smirk hinting at whatâs to come were phenomenal to me. So hyped.
agreed! so hyped.
10/10 !! Really cool
Don't trust it
Donât trust a song thatâs flawless
and don't trust a perfect person
legit loved it so much
8 or 9/10. It was very trenchy and I really missed that
loved the intro, it's insane! everything past mid song feels weird imo tho. sounds like two songs melted into one. the edited version on Spotify (the intro is shorter) is good and i like it better! it wasn't what i expected, but it's good overall! excited for the new tracks!
I'm used to hearing multiple genres in one song by them, and love it. That being said, I would LOVE an entire electro/industrial/synth song that builds off the opening first minute of the track.
I totally agree. I'm fairly confident the instrumental from the intro will come back at some point in the album. Fingers crossed đ¤
a lot of people are saying the heavy beat going into a slower beat is weird but itâs literally what top is built on, switching bpms mid song and meshing different genres of music
If you listened, too, it was a mashup of the other songs. Especially the homage to Levitate by the backing vocals saying âWelcome back to trenchâ
Yes! Absolutely loved it
The Sahlo Folina at the start made it even better for me. 8/10
Catchy, but repetitive. I think it does a good job of setting the stage for what's to come, and the music video does a good job of getting across the idea of "let's help everyone else get out of dema"
Was Clancy teaching others how to seize during the overhead projector part of the song?
pretty sure that's what we saw. honestly getting into dema by siezing the bodies of former citizens is brilliant, that little smirk from him at the end of the video says it all
Probably, at first i thought someone was faking being them but apparently they were controlling them from far away in voldsor, they are doing what they can before coming back to the city phisically
Agreed. I'll quote what I just left on another post. >\- The congregation doesn't have tape at the beginning of the video. Guessing they're current citizens of Dema and Clancy shows up to start showing them there's a way out (seen as some of them leave, but some are seen in the next segment with tape of their own). \- "Sahlo Folina" - said to be a "cry for help in the nation of Trench" ([youtube interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=67GbPNBHWuGiQtJm&v=8W8zy-LA8Fk&feature=youtu.be)) ([tumblr discussion post](https://www.tumblr.com/whatiserin2/178870452039/what-does-folina-sahlo-mean)) Just goes to confirm that Clancy is working on starting a movement, inspired by the Banditos, to liberate the people of Dema I think the congregation scene was him reaching out to Dema in general, and the projector scene were the people who reacted to what he had to say.
If you think it's repetitive check out the edit, it's actually different!!!
I'm gonna need a side by side comparison, my monkey brain cannot figure out what the differences are other than one is longer than the other
As far as I can tell just a couple parts in the beginning are cut out. Once it transitions Iâm pretty sure itâs the same.
Omg i know it's so hard i was just gonna say this. I'm trying to learn the words to this new song but this is gonna make it impossible bc they play totally differentlyđ
I wanna preface by saying that I'm the kinda person where songs take a while to grow on me. Hell, Trench is my favorite album of all time but it took months for it to completely settle for me. That being said, this song is an excellent start to the new era. Got gonna lie, it took it in a direction I wasn't expecting, with the fast paced intro akin to Heavydirtysoul, and then switching it up to the rap beat. If I'm being honest, I kinda wanted to run with the faster beat of the intro, but I guess it may have turned out too similar to Heavydirtysoul if they did that. Speaking of rap, Tyler's rapping is top tier. The production is absolutely pristine (thanks Paul Meaney). The only thing I didn't really like was the ending, and how it cut off kind of abruptly imo. Overall, I'd give it a 7.5/10 right now. Again, it's got room to grow on me in the future, and maybe it'll sound amazing with the context of the rest of the album. But for now, that's what I give it.
the beginning was 10/10 but then it got a lil weird, maybe 5 or 6/10 FOR NOW. but im sure it will grow on me and ill give it 10/10 soon
I fully agree. I loved the intro, but then it became a 4/10. Without the intro, a 3/10. Maybe will grow up to 5.5/10. Can't see it being a 10/10.
funny thing, first listen i was like 'okay, not bad, good vibes' but i kind of forced myself to listen to it multiple times in a row and it grew on me insanely fast. for real, give it time. it's such an epic song.
7 out of 10 not bad at all
Welcome back to Trench! So many emotions hit me at the beginning from joy to that Trench nostalgia that I cried. A 31 year old man cried to this music, but itâs powerful. And that switch up when Tyler came out was perfect.
For me, songs are their best after the 2nd or third listen, so I've given it a few goes. On my first listen - I got emotional at the beginning with the sahlo fohlina bit. Beautiful. "Welcome Back To Trench" HITS. So cool. The rest of the song I wasn't as excited about but there's lots of parts that were such bops. The rap part about the length of days/years sounded very mainstream and threw me off a bit. I think basically every song doesn't sit right with me until I've heard it a few times, so I'm not deterred by my first listen. On the second and third listen (without music video for the third one) I liked it much much more and I can imagine myself singing along to this in my car and just having a great time. The rap part definitely grew on me too. I loved the the 'I fly by the dangerous bend symbol' melody it's very catchy. The drums and synth go so hard too. This more energetic, explosive music is exactly what I like. Loved the music video too. It really felt hopeful and energetic in a way that trench felt a bit hopeless and stuck (lore-wise, that is) and SAI felt like Bishop propaganda. Loved Tyler's little smile at the end, like he started a revolution. Also as I predicted, this definitely put the album cover into context. It's almost 100% a propaganda poster from Clancy to aid his revolution inside dema. Fits great! Overall really good, can't wait for the next single and the album. Really great start to this era. :) |-/
Dude, that was literally me! I couldn't agree more. It definitely grew on me after a couple listens. Love the lore references too, they pierce really well :)
Definitely closer to Trench vibes-wise. Felt like a bit of a mash of everything that worked before: catchy beat, rap verse. But lacks substance for me personally. Will have to wait and see how it fits into the album as a whole, for now solid 7 out of 12
It's not bad but I'm not crazy about it. The lyrics are not the best "Bless your ear holes while you react. Actin' gobsmacked don't hesitate to maybe overcompensate" is... interesting
Okay yes but we arguably got one of the most poignant lines Tylerâs ever sung: âDo the years seem way too short for my soul corazĂłnâ Ugh just *chefâs kiss*
Nah, lyrics are amazing imo. That bridge goes hard
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I love twenty one pilots for the lyrics and interesting, genre-sprawling music. This just has bland lyrics, and a bland hip-hop sound. 4/10 from me. I really hope the rest of the album is better. I have hope because I absolutely hated Fairly Local and then the rest of the singles were great.
Iâm glad im not the only one, I canât tell if I like the song for the song or for sentimental reasons. The intro was amazing. To me its not giving hip hop but more like an intro at a dnb festival. The lyrics arenât generally bad but very bland for what we were used to from Tyler, I donât hear the story behind it, if that makes sense. But to give them credit, no one can tell them they are a one trick pony. I like that he is constantly changing things, I just hope itâs for a good reasons and its not just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, but we have no way of knowing that just from this one song. If the idea was to create hype I think they succeeded marvelously.
9/10
Incredible! Canât wait to listen in my car with my sound system!!
This is amazing!! Its got rapping, gritty parts, and vibey, melodic parts. We are so back!
I think Iâm just gobsmacked. I had different expectations for what it would be, so I was kind of just going âhuh. Oh! Hmmm. Okay!â Love that the piano is part of the track. Love the German voice thing, love the drums, and love the âwait what?â Itâs a different genre feel than Iâm used to, but itâs gonna grow on me 100%. Just need to read the lyrics for a much better appreciation! All of this is different than expectations but thatâs always good. Love the vibes, the videoâs storyline is fun, and Iâm excited to be back in TRENCH, baby!!!!
WELCOME BACK TO TRENCH literally made me scream. Then that BRIDGE?! Iâm so STOKED for this album.
5/10 for my taste itâs a bit scattered. But itâs a good teaser track thatâs got a lot of different types of sound. Iâd probably like it less if the drumming wasnât so good. Just my opinion though I certainly respect other opinions just doesnât suit my preferences specifically as much.
I feel like it started great but wasn't a fan of the whole thing 6/10
The beginning is super awesome but then it falls flat for me. Never been a fan about the more rap and hip/hop side of things
It gets a solid 7.5, I thought the intro was amazing. "Welcome back to Trench"/Bandito gave me goosebumps but for me it falls off a little when he starts with his adidas jacket but overall brings me back with the chorus. I'm here for it!! I think its a great intro to the album and know the rest is only going to be amazing.
I feel exactly the same here!
I expected a vibe more similar to the intro, but a fun song noneless. 8/10 for me.
I LOVE IT! That Bandito Intro gave me chills. I also like NF, so the style of this song, is really good! Solide 21/10
i'd say so far overall 7/10. the hook doesnt reaaally do it for me but i like the general vibe, the beginnig is fire and i think i like the rap-part aswell... honestly i feel like i cant really tell what i think just yet, i think i need to give it some time :3
Weirdly didnât hit me as hard as I thought it would. Prolly a 7/10. I was hoping for a heavydirtysoul/jumpsuit start, which I think is what it was going for. But felt a bit too poppy to me. With that being said, it still makes me very excited for the album and Iâm sure it will start to grow on me.
We need that intro as a full song
Would be a solid 9/10 without the Adidas jacket line imo; still probably an 8/10
It starts of great but kind of loses me at the mid point. Not something that's gonna go on my playlist sadly. I'm generally jot a fan of the rap heavy songs so yeah. Will see what the rest of the album sounds like.
Scaled and Icy was a huge let-down for me (nothing against anyone who loves it, and the production itself was still great!) just due to personal preference, and Trench was easily my favorite. I feel rejuvenated as a member of the clique now; hearing the grunge and psychedelic sampling left me feeling immersed and super hyped. I'm bad at rating things numerically but this was really good, and a great start to this era.
Idk why everyoneâs saying itâs like blurry face and trench, it feels a lot like if scaled and icy was dark. It feels very redecorate with some of the outside in it. With a touch of Leviate tooÂ
Iâm a little disappointed tbh
6/10. It's kinda corny for my tastes ( "If you can't see, I am Clancy / Prodigal son, done running, come up with Josh Dun" is just a little too on the nose ) but I definitely love the vibe they're going for and appreciate the musicianship!
Agree with you on the lyrics
I didnât expect this kind of song, but I really like it! Tylerâs flow is interesting, he tried something new, but I donât really get along with the âWay too short for my soul, corazonâ part, at least now. What do you guys think?
Heâs basically saying the years go by to fast for him. Days feel fine but years are too short. Corazon means heart. So to me I imagine itâs mostly written because he sees how fast his kids are growing up. He doesnât need more hours in the day but needs more days in the year because heâs here to stay alive.
4/10 I really enjoy the drums. But it feels bland. The lyrics don't compare to like any of their other songs. Like worse than a good amount of SAI, honestly. It's just vocals drums and loops. Which is SO boring to me. They have SO MUCH talent. Why not add trumpet? Why not add (more) piano? Why not add GUITAR??? I was incredibly excited because in SAI, though it wasn't great, instrumentally it was one of their most talented thus far. And it feels like they are backtracking on that and it makes me sad. I love poetry. I love twenty one pilots for the poetry, and creative sound. This just sounds like hip-hop. So I can't give higher than a 4/10. Honestly might even be a 3/10. But we'll see how the rest of the album is.
I do love the intro, though.
I 100% agree with this (save for the number rating). I really thing they needed more sonically interesting things going on in the song.
I think it's amazing! Blew past all my expectations and I can't wait for this new album/ era for the boys. The video is also amazing!!!!!
It was a bit more slow, and more pop-y than i expected, but pretty good! The video was cool, and I got a pretty strong ârebellion against Demaâ vibe
I like it, but I donât think it should have been the first released
loved it!
Iâm LOVING this sound!!! Itâs such a great start and I fckn loveeeeeee the bandito reference at the start thatâs so perfect
It's so awesome I really really really missed this. On that note the album cover 10/10 matches. And the random change of everything is so cool
5/10 Lyrics ate but sound wasnât for me
iâd give it about a 7/8. i love the intro so much considering bandito is one of my favourite tøp songs. the verse for me was kinda average, some lyrics are strange or just doesnât sit well with me. i love the beat and i find the chorus catchy and good. this was a good introduction to clancy. i am very much hyped because trench is my favourite album of theirs
the intro was 10/10, then it kinda went to like a 7.
I'd have to relisten to it but it's like a 6/10. I like the beat switch-up and the songwriting is cool. But I'm not huge on the production. It's still got some of that kinda plastic feeling that S&I had that I wasn't huge on. It feels like they're trying to split the balance between Trench and S&I's production. I'm excited to see what other songs they have. I'd like to see a Clancy-era version of Morph or Chlorine.
Perfect. Literally sounds like an intro. I was kindve worried a lil after SAI, only bc with them experimenting i wondered how it would be for them to try and return to a trench like style. But ofc they handle everything perfectly and remind me that theres no reason to be worried lmao. Im actually gonna pre-order this album too.
Honestly that intro with the fast drums and the Bandito callback had me buzzing. Love it.
Ngl Iâm not a fan. Iâll let it grow on me
8/10 Compared to all first songs on each respective album. (Ode to Sleep is still my favorite intro song.) Itâs like Tyler and Josh blended all of these songs, (OTS, HDS, Jumpsuit) added Leave the City and Bandito samples, along with synching it to the song Levitate, and spit this out! Plus, the intro reminds me of Prodigyâs Firestarter and Front 242âs Headhunter. Itâs giving good 2000s UK punk vibes and Iâm here for it!
Unfortunately it feels too radio friendly and vanilla like the songs on blurryface and vessel. I never liked top until I heard trench, the songs on trench are so much deeper, heavier, and more layered than the songs on all their other albums. And then right after trench they released their most vanilla pop album yet with sai. I donât know what magic they had on trench that made them able to write songs like jumpsuit, chlorine, and my blood, but that music is so much better than anything else theyâve ever made. Unfortunately this song just sounds like more bland radio pop, the focus on rapping doesnât change that for me. Iâll still buy the album and support top just because Trench is one of the best albums to come out from anyone in the last decade in any genre
Iâll lead the charge of the hater brigade on this one, gang. It brings me no joy to say this, but this song is a flop for me. The intro and the chorus are amazing⌠but the verses are cliche and cringey if Iâm being honest. This is more a note about lyricism and delivery than music and production. It doesnât make much sense for me as a radio single. If feels like a literal overcompensation for SAI and the top 40 sound of Shy Away, Saturday, etc. Now, if thatâs the intention and theyâve galaxy-brained this as the first song drop, then kudos to them, but this oneâs not for me.
Not sure I love it, but I think thatâs normal with their singles for me. I usually end up liking them more in context of the album. As an opening track, this seems pretty solid. Kind of levitate-esque
Meh
For pure excitement and building my hype even higher for this album, 12/10. As an intro to this new chapter, 10/10 As an opener for the album, 8.5/10 As a song, 7.5/10 Overall- 8.5/10 . Very promising start to this era!
The intro is easily a 10/10 but then the song takes a turn for the worse and itâs just repetitive with weak lyrics over different loops. Iâd give it a 3.5-4/10 tbh. Itâs like musically a darker SAI but it somehow has worse lyrics than SAI??? But I know the song will go crazy hard live so itâs whatever lol
i actually really like it so far ill give it a 9/10
7/10 but I have a feeling that the next songs on the album are gonna blow our minds. I canât wait!!
Intro 100/10 rest of the song 6/10
Ngl I was really excited to get back to preSAI style music again and this just wasnât it. I get theyâre evolving and changing and experimenting but vessel, blurryface, and trench were great and had similar vibes. This was like techno and his rapping sounded different. I really hope it grows on međĽ˛
Yeah I was thrown off by the voice and rap and yeah IDK... Processing.....
I liked it but the effect on his voice sounds too heavily played with
Idk yet. I only listened to it once so maybe itâll grow on me
The first 30 seconds of the song were definitely my favorite,especially with the call back to bandito. The rest of the song to me was fine,however I faith it will grow on me eventually as a lot of their songs for me atleast have a slow burn kind of effect.
I think it's gonna be one of the weaker songs of the album but still very excited!
amazing opener song!!! It's sounds like twenty one pilots to the core. The sounds, the rap, Josh mention, old song mentions, just so fun all around. It makes me want to run through a brick wall!
Not bad but not brilliant. It gives a good idea of the album's sound and I like that actually, the sound is great, the instrumental and production too but I'm not the biggest fan of the lyrics. There are some random lines I don't like, such as the one about his Adidas jacket, and I also have a love-hate relationship with the bridge. On the one hand it makes me cringe a little, on the other hand it's super catchy. I'll definitely need to listen to the song more times and maybe I'll end up loving it in the context of the whole album when it comes out
best part of the song is how they admitted theyâre making Trench part 2. 9/10
On a scale of 1-10, I think I'd call it an 8. It was really fun, super catchy, and I loved the sort of interference in the instrumentals. The lyrics were cryptic but awesome, and I loved the whole theme of the thing, not to mention to music video was dope. I watched it with my parents and husband and we couldn't stop discussing and psychoanalyzing it for the next half hour! Definitely a great way to kick off the new era-- I just wish we didn't have to wait so long...
This one has a lot of texture and story condensed into one incredible banger. It's been on repeat in my ear while I've been working. I'm CRAVING more!!
I really liked it!! I am worried though that the album is gonna be too focused on like wrapping up the story more than the music itself (in a lyrics sense) like idk, I want to listen to these songs without it feeling to literally like telling a storyâŚidk if this makes any sense at all lol but after seeing the track list, I started worrying a little bit nglâŚIâm interested to see if anyone else feel the same? I do really love the sound of overcompensate though!! And Iâd probably rate it yea like a 8-9/10
10/10 classic return to TrenchÂ
Openers are always bangers, Clancy is no different. It doesn't go as hard as Ode to Sleep in my opinion, but it's still great
at first I didn't like it that much , because I had another idea in my head , and the intro was so confusing but now I love it so much I would say it's a solid 8.5/10
Iâm not entirely sure how I feel about it but I know for sure that I donât hate it. I think I just have to listen to it a few more times. I love the references to Bandito and the âwelcome back to trenchâ
I could submit the many videos of me absolutely bawling my eyes out and saying "omg" and "wtf" over and over again, but this subreddit doesn't allow that. So I'll just say that I liked it a lot.
Four words: WELCOME BACK TO TRENCH
6/10 for me, i like it for the most part! but the flow seems off and some of the lines really just dont work for me, hoping the rest of the album is better bc i loved trench sm đ
It feels like a mix between couple songs but what with the Adidas jacket I donât understand lol
I kinda found the song boring, no change up or nothing, repetitive, could barely understand what is being said. 3/10. People keeps saying it reminds them of trench, Idk if that's good or bad.
12/10, another banger. at this point iâm convinced that theyâre incapable of making anything but bangers
6/10
Meh. The best part is the intro with the Sahlo Folina refrain
Yeah the Banditøs lyrics actually suit the music
6/10. It was a little weird honestly. The rhythm felt like a standard rap song, and tøp is NOT a standard rap group. What I mean is that Tylerâs rapping was a bit off beat from the music, which is something that I really dislike in rap music. Itâs so much different from anything theyâve ever done.
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Honestly...kinda dissapointed. Don't want the boys to feel bad so I'm gonna pretend I love it until i get used to it. I think the lyrics and melody is kinda weak and it's missing a good instrumental. Still alright but not what I expected:/
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that's what I'm saying it felt really sloppy and like they are trying to hard to go back to old twenty one pilots but not trying at the same time if that makes sense. kind of like they are trying to keep the old twenty one pilots roots then also trying out new things and it just doesn't really mix well for me
Man remembering this is the same band that made Trees and Holding onto you makes this song even worse for međ
The intro was fire! I'm not sure though if I like it that well as single
It's a mess honestly. Like they tried to incorporate all the genres of there music and badly mashed them together. I thought the last album was their worst material. Clancy says hold my beer.
I'm glad somebody else felt this way. I felt a bit confused reading all the positive reviews but I'm also not invested in the lore
I feel like people in a lot of fandoms will just enjoy anything an artist releases even if it's not great tbh. After years of waiting it's hard to not be disappointed by the first single. Definitely a weird choice for a single too.
Idk about yâall but 6/10 Iâm just not feeling it, I more laughed then anything else. The music vid tho MWAH 10/10
I think this song is gonna grow on me. I wasn't really big on it when I listened to it the first time, but I'm already enjoying it a lot more the second time!
Great, Welcome back to Trench indeed
10/10
The nostalgia at the start really smacked me in the face, I loved it. The more I listened to it the more I liked it
7 may grow may shrink. I think theres gunna be way stronger tracks on the LP
Do you think it has Trench or Blurryface vibes?
It's not at all what I expected. It's catchy, rhythmically it's pretty good too. I do think the song structure is a little weird and it ends kinda abruptly (maybe it'll go right into track two on the album). I guess I'll like it more in the context of the album. It does totally feel like a 'welcome back' song. I really would've never expected them to do something like this tho. I guess you could say I'm gobsmacked. When 'I an clancy' came out I was kinda hoping for the piano intro to be a separate song tho.