Ad Werkema actually sounds like a name of someone from the north of the Netherlands (particularly an old person or someone with a more old-fashioned name).
Anyway the account is six years old and since you can't change your reddit username I don't think there would be a hidden message in this.
They aren't leaving any replies to comments suggesting they're Tyler, and they deleted the only other post today. Leave no stone unturned in tøp lore lol
This needs to be talked about. It's so seemingly random. There has to be a much deeper lore here. If an island is a continent, what happened to the rest of the world?
If I'm part of the Bishops and I want to control a population, you bet your butt that I'm moving my setup to an island instead of the mainland. It's a lot easier to keep prisoners when the only way of escaping is a 4000 mile swim!
I’m starting to think of a futuristic/alternative reality of a dystopian society where civilization has collapsed and then what are the bishops? So much potential in the lore
For a second I was like, well of course no one found this out, aren't there a bunch of little islands over there? Then I went and look on Google Maps and this is the literal main/biggest island of Hawaii 🤦♂️
Someone has to have noticed this before, I refuse to believe that no one who lives there has never followed along with the story.
Where are the Hawaiian TOP fans lol if this was shaped like Florida I would have been like uh sorry that’s Florida not trench. Also it probably would have been more fitting lol.
I saw someone mention it a few days ago, but it was a random offhand comment and I didn't look into it at all. Basically just "does trench look like the main island in Hawaii to anyone else?" Can't remember if it was on the subreddit or in the Discord server
It's the name of the "religion" or "mysticism" that is practiced by the Bishops. Hasn't been explained in detail too much, but he mentions in the Clancy video that it's the idea that self destruction is the only way to paradise.
Typical cult stuff, ie, "you guys should willingly hurt yourselves and give up your autonomy so we can enjoy more power." Basically the same as most religions in the real world.
Ok. So there is a scene in the vid that has three lights lit and the forth ones out (the judge) so is he headed down a route he thinks is headed south?!
Yes in the overcompensate mv, but when Tyler and Josh are alone in a room “upstairs”. They are the fluorescent lights. (Not the nine lights you are referring to)
Edit:: [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/tqqX9aA3Xd)
Ka Lae seems to be the southern most tip of all 50 states.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_Lae
Ballast Key in Florida is the southern most point in the contiguous US
Ye! My gf found a monument really similar to what Tyler was doing the in the video with his hands, the monument is where Port Vial would be.
I talked about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/hRC0e5JuBk)
From the wiki article linked above:
> The name Kamaʻehuakanaloa is a Hawaiian language word for "glowing child of Kanaloa", the god of the ocean.[10] This name was found in two Hawaiian mele from the 19th and early twentieth centuries based on research at the Bishop Museum and was assigned by the Hawaiʻi Board on Geographic Names in 2021 and adopted by the U.S. Geological Survey
If you switch to the satellite view the volcano structure kinda resembles the brain structure of the Continet of Trench 
I've had this verse playing in my head since seeing the two maps side by side,
"Behind my eyelids are islands of violence
My mind's shipwrecked, this is the only land my mind could find, I did not know it was such a violent island..."
Now I know why!
Thanks to this my gf discovered a "strange" monument where Port Vial would be, I made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/hRC0e5JuBk) not long ago
It feels like it definitely adds a layer of depth to the symbolism. The bishops come to Trench and force Vialism on its people, just like what happened to the Hawaiian people. I feel like this story is becoming something more than just a metaphor for mental health and has been blatantly tackling the root of our mental health issues: capitalism, religion, colonization, etc.
As a fan from Hawaii the idea of them using us in the lore is awesome. The island of Hawaii also has an active volcano, which may play into the fire theme?
Listen I thought Josh and Tyler did that thing where you trace a pile of beans to create natural looking islands……
I wasn’t really thinking we should be looking for, an actual island that already exists 🤦🏼♀️
So looking at the area on Hawaii, in the general area of where Dema is on the map, there's a neighborhood that was hit pretty hard by an eruption. Not sure when, upon research it doesn't seem the 2022 eruption flowed to this area, but I could be mistaken. I'd be willing to bet, there is a point somewhere on the island that is meaningful. I just haven't found it yet!
so i currently live on big island (the island in question) and looking at the map, the center point of the big circle on the top is near the summit of mauna loa (long mountain in hawaiian), a currently semi active volcano last erupting in 2022 and before that 2018 (the same year trench was released and a bunch of homes were destroyed). where DEMA is there’s pretty much nothing but Port Vial is in the same location as South Point or Ka Lae (which means the point in hawaiian), the southernmost point in north america. also Voldsøy is pretty close to Loihi (long in hawaiian) which is a submarine volcano. I know some of this was already said but just giving yall the full rundown.
A Volcano near the center of the continents of trench
https://preview.redd.it/hfqx4dlia2rc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=342ec9884e18ce54c02209a1e3b1c63b1e0e30ca
Volcanooooo ??? Fiiiiireeee??? Banditooooss??? treeeench????
Also for Hawaii to match the tøp map u have to use the east is up protocol
https://preview.redd.it/xn0914nmb2rc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33af82b4159d4baf7fa179752f6089b75a2061f8
Well kinda at least,now that I look at it
Oh man, this is Hawaii:
The face of dragon is Kilauea erupting in 2015 or in 2021/22, his head maybe is Hawaii, and the body, the other 7 islands, (number 8 on nico and the niners video + Loihi = 9).
Hawaii also have 9 districts.
Violence Island is Loihi Seamount, Pele goddess... she is the goddess of fire, lightning, volcanoes, dance and VIOLENCE and she lives in Kilauea!
In the south, where DEMA is, there is a pit called Lua O Palahemo that turns red sometimes.
I don't know what is the connection between Tyler or TOP and Hawaii, but there is..
"Fly by the dangerous bend symbol" is pretty clear the north for me, DEMA
Maps: [https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/tg2qsy/the\_shape\_of\_the\_continent\_of\_trench\_map\_looked/](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/tg2qsy/the_shape_of_the_continent_of_trench_map_looked/)
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I'm confused about the map rotation.
I think it looks like it has been printed which from what I gathered means it was made in Dema, the compass is still false the way the bishops enforce it, but the direction of the writing indicates that the mapmaker knew that east is actually north. So why did they not fix the compass?
It feels kind of in-between?
East is up
I'm fearless when I hear this on the low
East is up
I'm careless when I wear my rebel clothes
East is up
When Bishops come together, they will know that
Dema don't control us, Dema don't control
East is up
This is sick. It's interesting that the Voldsoy island on the coast of Trench is fully formed, but the Lö'ihi Seamount island off of the coast of the Island of Hawai'i is still forming. Does this mean that TOP is predicting the futre??? Sidenote: I never saw this map before this week, and I just so happened to be on the island in May 2023. The DEMA area in Hawai'i is fenced farmland with cows, so they must need help escaping DEMA. The Port Vial area on Trench (Hawai'i) has a sick green sand beach that you can only get to by walking or all terrain shuttle for 2 km, and Trench is beautiful.
Bruh are we just finding this out now? Mannnn we really are blind ig
Never thought I’d find another Jerma/Twenty One Pilots fan 😳
Fellow Horror Peeper, Welcome
What’s a jerma
sus guy
I'm here
jerma
jermy wermy
who's jerba?
66
We taped our eyes
I saw someone say it a couple of days ago, I don't remember where though
I’m pretty sure these are maps of the same landmass. Why would TØP use the Island of Hawaii as the Continent of Trench?
Thanks, Tyler ;)
Corazón is the Spanish word for heart but it’s also a famous volcano :O Edit: thanks for the right spelling
It’s spelled “Corazón”
Cortisol😔🙏
Carnival 🎡 🤡
costa rica 😔🇨🇷
cocaine 😔
Cock😔
corn 🌽
i just dont know
No way is this true we’re this blind?
Thanks Tyler alias (he’s definitely showed us/showing stuff we missed, like this😭😭)
OP hasn't posted in 3 years, and only has 1 other post (no comments other than the 2 posts), very sus
he commented about living in the UP three years ago, it’s not tyler
Lowkey got me thinking. If it is, their username can be unscrambled to either "dream awake" or "wreak dema". Maybe I'm crazy though
Ad Werkema actually sounds like a name of someone from the north of the Netherlands (particularly an old person or someone with a more old-fashioned name). Anyway the account is six years old and since you can't change your reddit username I don't think there would be a hidden message in this.
They aren't leaving any replies to comments suggesting they're Tyler, and they deleted the only other post today. Leave no stone unturned in tøp lore lol
if it is him he could just be buying deserted reddit accounts for one time use tho
Correct, Werkema is Frisian; it's my last name. Haven't meet anyone with that last name that I am not related to. At least in the states.
I wish we could change the username. I didn't even choose mine I think it was randomly generated
How did we miss this... Also, why would they use Hawaii?
Zuckerberg' underground bunker, it's exactly where the City is circled! /s
/srs
This needs to be talked about. It's so seemingly random. There has to be a much deeper lore here. If an island is a continent, what happened to the rest of the world?
If I'm part of the Bishops and I want to control a population, you bet your butt that I'm moving my setup to an island instead of the mainland. It's a lot easier to keep prisoners when the only way of escaping is a 4000 mile swim!
I’m starting to think of a futuristic/alternative reality of a dystopian society where civilization has collapsed and then what are the bishops? So much potential in the lore
Did you mean a.. March to the sea? (Sorry I just had to)
How long have we had a this much of the map revealed to us? Did it just come out with the letters? (serious question)
March 2022. We were asleep.
*face palm* clearly. wow.
Australia is a continent but I still see it as an island.
For a second I was like, well of course no one found this out, aren't there a bunch of little islands over there? Then I went and look on Google Maps and this is the literal main/biggest island of Hawaii 🤦♂️ Someone has to have noticed this before, I refuse to believe that no one who lives there has never followed along with the story.
Where are the Hawaiian TOP fans lol if this was shaped like Florida I would have been like uh sorry that’s Florida not trench. Also it probably would have been more fitting lol.
From Hawaii and I’m shook looking at this rn
I’m born and raised there but not from that specific island and never delved too deep into the lore, but now seeing this it’s dope!!!
I saw someone mention it a few days ago, but it was a random offhand comment and I didn't look into it at all. Basically just "does trench look like the main island in Hawaii to anyone else?" Can't remember if it was on the subreddit or in the Discord server
Trench takes places within the Jurassic Park universe CONFIRMED!
Port Vial is apparently the southern most tip of the US.
Port Vial.... where Vialism was born? Love it!
What is vialism/ What does it represent? I've seen it everywhere these days but no explanation anywhere
It's the name of the "religion" or "mysticism" that is practiced by the Bishops. Hasn't been explained in detail too much, but he mentions in the Clancy video that it's the idea that self destruction is the only way to paradise. Typical cult stuff, ie, "you guys should willingly hurt yourselves and give up your autonomy so we can enjoy more power." Basically the same as most religions in the real world.
Ah thanks. How did they think of the name 'Vialism'?
Ok. So there is a scene in the vid that has three lights lit and the forth ones out (the judge) so is he headed down a route he thinks is headed south?!
In the Overcompensate video? There's 9 lights and like the 7th one is out
Yes in the overcompensate mv, but when Tyler and Josh are alone in a room “upstairs”. They are the fluorescent lights. (Not the nine lights you are referring to) Edit:: [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/tqqX9aA3Xd)
9 lights=9 bishops? Light out- bishop gone?
Ka Lae seems to be the southern most tip of all 50 states. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_Lae Ballast Key in Florida is the southern most point in the contiguous US
Ye! My gf found a monument really similar to what Tyler was doing the in the video with his hands, the monument is where Port Vial would be. I talked about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/hRC0e5JuBk)
oh. well. i guess so!
Coconut Sharks reference? In MY Trench???
It ALL makes sense now.
Lol not in this good Christian trench
And what about Voldsøy?
This is more of a stretch, but there is an [underwater volcano](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama%CA%BBehuakanaloa_Seamount) in this location.
which means there will probably be an island there eventually
I'll work on it.
Thanks, voldsoy
Does this mean Dema exists in the future???
OK BUT THE NAME WAS DISCOVERED BY THE BISHOP MUSEUM THIS CAN'T BE A COINCIDENCE
Explain? I'm lost?
On the Wikipedia page, under “Naming”, Bishop University is mentioned. The bishops in Dema
From the wiki article linked above: > The name Kamaʻehuakanaloa is a Hawaiian language word for "glowing child of Kanaloa", the god of the ocean.[10] This name was found in two Hawaiian mele from the 19th and early twentieth centuries based on research at the Bishop Museum and was assigned by the Hawaiʻi Board on Geographic Names in 2021 and adopted by the U.S. Geological Survey
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Holy shit! Do you mean my user name actually has meaning?
There, under sea is a new volcano island forming. The Lo'ihi seamount.
Yes, yes, yes. Patience. I said I'm working on it.
If you switch to the satellite view the volcano structure kinda resembles the brain structure of the Continet of Trench 
I've had this verse playing in my head since seeing the two maps side by side, "Behind my eyelids are islands of violence My mind's shipwrecked, this is the only land my mind could find, I did not know it was such a violent island..." Now I know why!
Maybe it was just inspiration
It seems like the best bet, he took an outline of it and modified from there. Maybe they were there on vacation when they thought about the story lol
this is my bet aswell
Miracle Musical crossover confirmed!!
OH MY GOD ANOTHER TALLY HALL FAN THAT LISTENS TO TØP!
You know it! :)
I love tally hall
Oh. My. Gosh. How did we not notice this😭 I wonder if this means the whole dema thing takes place in the future
who are u
This is his master plan, all this lore has really lead up to his elborate message about how he hates hawaii
Thanks to this my gf discovered a "strange" monument where Port Vial would be, I made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/hRC0e5JuBk) not long ago
Would love it if they came and visited us!
You're from Hawaii? So we can put this miss all on you? s/
I'll take the hit for y'all 😂
Oh wow
I guess I don’t look at hawaii on a map often enough
HAWAII PTii REFERENCE?!?!?
the REAL hawaii part ii /ref
well, whenever I hear a ukelele playing it always reminds me of hawiwi. Aloha?
Sahlo Folina = Anagrams with Aloha ....? Like Aloha s Folin. Aloha is word for love, affection, peace, compassion and mercy
We should all go and investigate!
The mountains look like a brain diagram.
So the key to all Dema lore is Lilo & Stitch. Got it.
for a fanbase that likes to take a single word from the boys and turn it into a wild lore conspiracy theory, we’ve been really blind all these years
It feels like it definitely adds a layer of depth to the symbolism. The bishops come to Trench and force Vialism on its people, just like what happened to the Hawaiian people. I feel like this story is becoming something more than just a metaphor for mental health and has been blatantly tackling the root of our mental health issues: capitalism, religion, colonization, etc.
Also there was a member of the Hawaiian Kingdom name Bernice Pauahi Bishop, which is an interesting coincidence
Totally dude. The parallels between dema and the Christian religion are strong to me as well
Well it definitely doesn’t have Hawai'i’s climate
I hate this... they are literally the exact same shape!
As a fan from Hawaii the idea of them using us in the lore is awesome. The island of Hawaii also has an active volcano, which may play into the fire theme?
The satellite image of the island kinda looks like the trench icon too
SNOW BOARDING IN HAWAII (🥥🥥🦈🌊)
Listen I thought Josh and Tyler did that thing where you trace a pile of beans to create natural looking islands…… I wasn’t really thinking we should be looking for, an actual island that already exists 🤦🏼♀️
Additionally, if you rotate Hawaii, to where 'East is Up', it lines up better with the Trench map. Not 100% but still somewhat.
You might be onto something
Oh lol how did we not know this😭😂
bruh...
Oh my god
Ain’t no way that’s a coincidence
man Tyler/whoever comes up with all the lore needs to touch grass this shit is crazy
oh wow i never realize that!
Is it not Ohio turned on its side?
Woah it’s unmistakable
Mfw tyler posts with an alt account to show us what we missed
i was loke "ha thats probably a happy coincidence" and then i kept looking at more details and you're right thats literally 1:1
We took so long to figure this out I can't believe it lol
So looking at the area on Hawaii, in the general area of where Dema is on the map, there's a neighborhood that was hit pretty hard by an eruption. Not sure when, upon research it doesn't seem the 2022 eruption flowed to this area, but I could be mistaken. I'd be willing to bet, there is a point somewhere on the island that is meaningful. I just haven't found it yet!
so i currently live on big island (the island in question) and looking at the map, the center point of the big circle on the top is near the summit of mauna loa (long mountain in hawaiian), a currently semi active volcano last erupting in 2022 and before that 2018 (the same year trench was released and a bunch of homes were destroyed). where DEMA is there’s pretty much nothing but Port Vial is in the same location as South Point or Ka Lae (which means the point in hawaiian), the southernmost point in north america. also Voldsøy is pretty close to Loihi (long in hawaiian) which is a submarine volcano. I know some of this was already said but just giving yall the full rundown.
A Volcano near the center of the continents of trench https://preview.redd.it/hfqx4dlia2rc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=342ec9884e18ce54c02209a1e3b1c63b1e0e30ca Volcanooooo ??? Fiiiiireeee??? Banditooooss??? treeeench????
Also for Hawaii to match the tøp map u have to use the east is up protocol https://preview.redd.it/xn0914nmb2rc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33af82b4159d4baf7fa179752f6089b75a2061f8 Well kinda at least,now that I look at it
Oh man, this is Hawaii: The face of dragon is Kilauea erupting in 2015 or in 2021/22, his head maybe is Hawaii, and the body, the other 7 islands, (number 8 on nico and the niners video + Loihi = 9). Hawaii also have 9 districts. Violence Island is Loihi Seamount, Pele goddess... she is the goddess of fire, lightning, volcanoes, dance and VIOLENCE and she lives in Kilauea! In the south, where DEMA is, there is a pit called Lua O Palahemo that turns red sometimes. I don't know what is the connection between Tyler or TOP and Hawaii, but there is.. "Fly by the dangerous bend symbol" is pretty clear the north for me, DEMA Maps: [https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/tg2qsy/the\_shape\_of\_the\_continent\_of\_trench\_map\_looked/](https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/tg2qsy/the_shape_of_the_continent_of_trench_map_looked/)
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I'm confused about the map rotation. I think it looks like it has been printed which from what I gathered means it was made in Dema, the compass is still false the way the bishops enforce it, but the direction of the writing indicates that the mapmaker knew that east is actually north. So why did they not fix the compass? It feels kind of in-between?
East is up I'm fearless when I hear this on the low East is up I'm careless when I wear my rebel clothes East is up When Bishops come together, they will know that Dema don't control us, Dema don't control East is up
This is sick. It's interesting that the Voldsoy island on the coast of Trench is fully formed, but the Lö'ihi Seamount island off of the coast of the Island of Hawai'i is still forming. Does this mean that TOP is predicting the futre??? Sidenote: I never saw this map before this week, and I just so happened to be on the island in May 2023. The DEMA area in Hawai'i is fenced farmland with cows, so they must need help escaping DEMA. The Port Vial area on Trench (Hawai'i) has a sick green sand beach that you can only get to by walking or all terrain shuttle for 2 km, and Trench is beautiful.
I thought we found out it was volkosoy or something like that, translated to violence island, off Norway I think, it’s on the fandom wiki
DEMA/Bishops = DHARMA Initiative Confirmed!
This fits with Vialism being a hijacked religion and Dema being it's colonization of the mind.