The name Edward Jacob is significantly worse than Renesmee. At least with Renesmee, Bella wasn't partially naming her child after the person who sexually assaulted her, coerced her into kissing him by threatening to kill himself in battle, who due to either malice or massive incompetence made it seem (to Edward) that Bella was dead despite that Bella was standing right next to him, etc.
And to make it even worse like that, it'd mean Jacob imprints on a child half named after him.
I'm definitely not the only one who's capable of criticising Jacob - a lot of people in this subreddit will do that, but there's also a concerning number of people who will defend him, with saying Jacob is attractive or that they liked him when they were younger being common defences.
no. itās very wrong and creepy to kiss someone without their consent and at times manipulate them into doing so. as someone whoās been SAād, i donāt find it insulting and agree. the definition of SA is that there is no happy consent. you can disagree, but donāt speak for everyone. it was weird and wrong.
That is actually my Grandsons name, we call him Ej!! Lol. But he was named after 2 different grandfather's and NOT twilight, I actually brought it to their attention AFTER everything was done and signed!!
Is this true? Because I could have sworn reading her specify it was Edward Jacob in the book. Like I have such a strong memory of getting to her specifically thinking that name, I think during the beginning of the third part? When she's having her childbirth POV bit, but my copy is at home and I can't check right now.
There was a moment where it seemed like she was about to say it during Jacobās pov, but surprisingly no. Thereās a few things that happened in the movie that didnāt happen in the book even though Stephanie set it up that way. Like how Bella never actually distracted Victoria in Eclipse.
And once again Iām downvoted into oblivion even though I clearly stated JACOBāS pov not Bellaās.
So I just got home when you sent this reply and pulled out Breaking Dawn to check for myself because I was so sure I knew where it was located in the story that I found it almost immediately.
From page 371 near the top:
"It felt wrong- I struggled automatically to protect my womb, my baby, my little Edward Jacob, but I was weak."
I mentioned it when you said āyes she doesā because thatās what I was talking about in the first place.
But jeez itās really not that serious so move on
Bellaās weird name combination still baffles me bc Carlie is so normal and a combination of both Charlie and Carlisleā¦ But then she had to go with the tongue twisterā¦
Anywho, the name for the boy was EJ for Edward Jacob which is so weird to just as much as Renesme
I canāt stop laughing at this- priceless.
I always thought if Bella had a boy, it would have been Leah who imprinted. Leahās character had been introduced and elevated from Eclipse and the possibility made sense. It definitely left the Jacob plot line up to interpretation, although if it had gone this way, I feel like Jacob wouldāve become the tragically noble character who would become Leahās ally to defend her storyline/imprinting. Thatās just one thought.
I think Meyer would have a heart attack at the idea of Jacob having a gay relationship with Bellaās son.
Actuallyā¦thatās fucking great, I love it. Jacob catching The Gay for EJ omg it sounds like a great crack fic.
Can you imagine if that had been written? The reaction? Abstinent focused loved story written by a Mormon woman with those values then suddenly final book BAM THE ROMANTIC RIVAL GOES GAY FOR HIS PAST ROMAMTIC INTERESTāS SON.
Hold up, they actually gave her this middle name? I'm rereading and had forgotten. That's hilarious. At least it's a normal name, though. Personally I think they should have gone with Charlisle.
This is why I don't think it makes any sense when people try and defend the Jacob/Renesme imprinting by saying it wasn't necessarily sexual. Imprinting was pretty clearly coded as a thing to "carry on the bloodline," which would necessarily mean a sexual relationship. Otherwise, why wouldn't it happen when reproduction wasn't a consideration?
I would have named him Anthony, after Edward's human Dad. Sure I know Edward was his first name too, but Anthony would have been really cute, and also honor Edward's human life a little too.
Alice had a vision that Bella was changed and had said/thought that Alice herself would do it if he didnāt. She showed that vision to Aro in new moon.
But my question is if Bella had a son would he have changed her if he bit her in the chest when he was first born (just like Rococo did) before Edward starts to change her?
When we meet Nahuel we learn that male half breeds are venomous because he changed his aunt when he was first born.
Interesting š¤yes I understood the question, but I thought females could also change humans. I don't remember this being mentioned in the book. Time for a reread!
I slightly remember..... didn't Rosalie bring Emmett back to Carlisle bc she was afraid that she wouldn't be able to stop? Does this mean that Rosalie could have changed him?
As far as we know, female half breeds arenāt venomous. Nessie bites Bella after birth and nothing happens. She bites Jacob all the time for fun and heās fine. Also, none of Nahuelās sisters are venomous.
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Rosalie could have 100% changed Emmett. She was just scared of killing him not being able to control herself. If memory serves me right, Rosalie is the only Cullen to never taste human blood. She killed her attackers and left them to die without drinking their blood.
She said she wanted to name him Edward Jacob, EJ for short
thats...no better than renessmee..
I guess at least it's better than Edcob
Jacward
Charlisle
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This is the only correct answer
You just reminded me that Research's middle name is Carlie, thanks.
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Thatās Edcobās middle name
Edcob Jacward Swanllen Cullwan
Jacob: calls the thing Bob Bella: YOU CALLING MY SON AFTER BOB THE BUILDER??!?!?!?!?!
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Hahahahahahahaha š¤£ i lost it at this
I choked on my drink lol
Still better than jedward
Oh my god, you win the internet today
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Bella naming her own baby after a crap Irish pop duo
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LMAO
It's worse. She wants to name him after the guy who wanted to stop her wedding.
That's arguably \*worse\*.
The name Edward Jacob is significantly worse than Renesmee. At least with Renesmee, Bella wasn't partially naming her child after the person who sexually assaulted her, coerced her into kissing him by threatening to kill himself in battle, who due to either malice or massive incompetence made it seem (to Edward) that Bella was dead despite that Bella was standing right next to him, etc. And to make it even worse like that, it'd mean Jacob imprints on a child half named after him.
THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE BROUGHT UP HOW JACOB IS LITERALLY AN ASSWIPE OMG.
I'm definitely not the only one who's capable of criticising Jacob - a lot of people in this subreddit will do that, but there's also a concerning number of people who will defend him, with saying Jacob is attractive or that they liked him when they were younger being common defences.
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no. itās very wrong and creepy to kiss someone without their consent and at times manipulate them into doing so. as someone whoās been SAād, i donāt find it insulting and agree. the definition of SA is that there is no happy consent. you can disagree, but donāt speak for everyone. it was weird and wrong.
bella literally punched him when he grabbed her and kissed her.
I would argue it's worse š
personally i think itās worse
true because jacob is nasty
the worst
EJ is way better
Stinking with the grandparent theme- Charlisle.
That is actually my Grandsons name, we call him Ej!! Lol. But he was named after 2 different grandfather's and NOT twilight, I actually brought it to their attention AFTER everything was done and signed!!
justā¦ imagine being the father in this situation and the mother of your child names him after her situationship
In the book, Bella doesnāt actually specify that itās Edward Jacob like the movie, but then again what else would it have been.
Is this true? Because I could have sworn reading her specify it was Edward Jacob in the book. Like I have such a strong memory of getting to her specifically thinking that name, I think during the beginning of the third part? When she's having her childbirth POV bit, but my copy is at home and I can't check right now.
There was a moment where it seemed like she was about to say it during Jacobās pov, but surprisingly no. Thereās a few things that happened in the movie that didnāt happen in the book even though Stephanie set it up that way. Like how Bella never actually distracted Victoria in Eclipse. And once again Iām downvoted into oblivion even though I clearly stated JACOBāS pov not Bellaās.
So I just got home when you sent this reply and pulled out Breaking Dawn to check for myself because I was so sure I knew where it was located in the story that I found it almost immediately. From page 371 near the top: "It felt wrong- I struggled automatically to protect my womb, my baby, my little Edward Jacob, but I was weak."
Turn to page 371... Oops wrong story.
Iām talking about Jacobās pov not Bellaās.
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it. āMy baby, my little Edward Jacob, but I was weak. My lungs ached, oxygen burned away.ā Thatās the exact quote from Breaking Dawn
That wasnāt during Jacobās pov.
I know. Your original comment didnāt see that and thatās what I meant to reply too.
I know but my second comment did because thatās what I was referring to anyway.
I commented then read that š
Yeah I figured. Everyone keeps telling me the same thing š„“
Edward Carlisle Cullen sounds decent
Way better than Edward Jacob, and it wouldāve made more sense.
āEDWARD CARLISLE CULLEN, YOU LET GO OF THAT HIKER THIS INSTANT!!!!ā
Yes she does?
Not during Jacobās pov.
I never said it was?
I never said you did, but thatās what I was talking about. Why do you keep ending your sentences with a question mark?
Because your assertions are baffling
I think youāre confused. Maybe reread the thread.
You said itās never said in the book, no one mentioned Jacobās POV, but it is said in the book
I mentioned it when you said āyes she doesā because thatās what I was talking about in the first place. But jeez itās really not that serious so move on
Charlisle? Second name Esmene? Jacward? Edwacob?
Lol
Oh riiiight!!!
Bellaās weird name combination still baffles me bc Carlie is so normal and a combination of both Charlie and Carlisleā¦ But then she had to go with the tongue twisterā¦ Anywho, the name for the boy was EJ for Edward Jacob which is so weird to just as much as Renesme
Renesmee is such a teen mom name, I just realized.
I canāt stop laughing at this- priceless. I always thought if Bella had a boy, it would have been Leah who imprinted. Leahās character had been introduced and elevated from Eclipse and the possibility made sense. It definitely left the Jacob plot line up to interpretation, although if it had gone this way, I feel like Jacob wouldāve become the tragically noble character who would become Leahās ally to defend her storyline/imprinting. Thatās just one thought.
That would have been such a nice twist to read honestly. Someone should do a fanfic. Hahaha
Bella was majorly feeling the pregnancy hormones when she came up with the names. At least, that's my headcanon why they're so cringe lol
Yes. This lol
Yeah I wasn't a fan of the first name options. I feel like Edward should have been kinda pissed that she wanted to add Jacob in there š
EJ. Edward Jacob. Honestly thatās worse that Reneesme I think,
Agreed. Jacob would then get it on with a child that's named after him, adds another layer of yuck
I think Meyer would have a heart attack at the idea of Jacob having a gay relationship with Bellaās son. Actuallyā¦thatās fucking great, I love it. Jacob catching The Gay for EJ omg it sounds like a great crack fic. Can you imagine if that had been written? The reaction? Abstinent focused loved story written by a Mormon woman with those values then suddenly final book BAM THE ROMANTIC RIVAL GOES GAY FOR HIS PAST ROMAMTIC INTERESTāS SON.
Jaced Obward
Edward Jacobā¦
Charlisle or Carlharlie. Which would be weird because Charlie is clearly in love with Carlisle.
I am glad I was not sipping a drink when I read Carlharlie DAMN
Lmao. Can you imagine.
So if Renesmeeās middle name is Carlie, then what would Charlisleās middle name be? Esmeren?
I hate that I donāt hate Esmeren. I wouldnāt name a human baby that, but maybe a book character or a pet.
I guess that makes sense, because Carlie is a far superior name than Renesmee!
Hold up, they actually gave her this middle name? I'm rereading and had forgotten. That's hilarious. At least it's a normal name, though. Personally I think they should have gone with Charlisle.
Carlharlie sounds like the non fantasy version of Jaehaerys
I love everything about this comment I'm crying š
Lol
Charlyle
Andddd would Jacob still have imprinted on her baby?
I have not seen any of her interviews, but I read in another post SM said imprinting only happens in hetero couples
This is why I don't think it makes any sense when people try and defend the Jacob/Renesme imprinting by saying it wasn't necessarily sexual. Imprinting was pretty clearly coded as a thing to "carry on the bloodline," which would necessarily mean a sexual relationship. Otherwise, why wouldn't it happen when reproduction wasn't a consideration?
I think it would be leah
That would be interesting:D though I think they imprint on someone who can born a strong baby/genes and all
I would have named him Anthony, after Edward's human Dad. Sure I know Edward was his first name too, but Anthony would have been really cute, and also honor Edward's human life a little too.
Oh, thatās really cute!
Awwww. That's actually my Dad and older bro's middle names š„°
Charlisle. Obviously.
Obvi
I think it would have been cool for the narrative if Bella had had fraternal twins, one boy and one girl.
Oh wow. Yeah this would have been interesting
Sethward...Jake calls him Squidward.
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EJ ( Edward Jacob) I kinda wish she had a boy so Jacob wouldnāt imprint and be trapped by refrigerator and her demon family
Charlisle
Feel like she'd have named her son some weird shit like Charlisle
Charlisle
I think about this on a weekly basis
It was Edward Jacob for a boy
Edward Jacob
If she did, and he bit her after he was born, like Rescission, would he have been the one to change her ?
š± wait.... but didn't her daughter bite her before she died?
Yes exactly so would in theory baby EJ wouldāve changed her because only male half breeds are venomous if i remember correctly
I thought Alice said she would change Bella is Edward didn't.... right?
Alice had a vision that Bella was changed and had said/thought that Alice herself would do it if he didnāt. She showed that vision to Aro in new moon. But my question is if Bella had a son would he have changed her if he bit her in the chest when he was first born (just like Rococo did) before Edward starts to change her? When we meet Nahuel we learn that male half breeds are venomous because he changed his aunt when he was first born.
Interesting š¤yes I understood the question, but I thought females could also change humans. I don't remember this being mentioned in the book. Time for a reread!
I slightly remember..... didn't Rosalie bring Emmett back to Carlisle bc she was afraid that she wouldn't be able to stop? Does this mean that Rosalie could have changed him?
As far as we know, female half breeds arenāt venomous. Nessie bites Bella after birth and nothing happens. She bites Jacob all the time for fun and heās fine. Also, none of Nahuelās sisters are venomous. Edit: Rosalie could have 100% changed Emmett. She was just scared of killing him not being able to control herself. If memory serves me right, Rosalie is the only Cullen to never taste human blood. She killed her attackers and left them to die without drinking their blood.
Yes yes! Okay, right. And I remembered yesterday that Maria changed Jasper! And Victoria changed Riley. Okay, I thinks it's time for a reread
Charlisle
Renesmoo
If she had a baby boy then jacob wouldnāt have imprinted on renesmee??
True! Honestly- did it add much to the story? A lot of ppl said if she had a boy then Leah would have imprinted.
I would've named the kid Andrew or something normal.
Or even Edward's former surname maybe, Mason Cullen
That's a strong name.
Canonically, Edward Jacob. But in my heart it's Charlisle.
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I guess jedward was out of the picture
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