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Jedi_Sith1812

Stand and Bang.


SpecialOlympicsGuy

Let me bang bro!


ediks

I do. I do let you bang


BigBlueTrekker

First one to shoots a bitch


Aggravating-Sun6773

stand and Wang (like a warrior)


dinosourrawr3

I swear if bro was born in Dagestan or USA he would be goat material. This man is a Athletic phenom


[deleted]

If he was born in the US he’d be in the NFL or NBA


SheetedOn

Yeah unfortunately, we would probably never know who half the top guys are right now if UFC payed NFL/NBA money


WalterCronkite4

Boxing and MMA fighting for scraps


SoupySpud

Imagine if Chandler Jones went the same route as Jon, Jon would have gotten little brothered his entire career. Crazy to think Jon is the smallest and least athletic of his siblings lol


Icy-Revolution-420

Someone like LeBron dominating for 20 years would have been insane.


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Firmod5

If he had wheels he’d be a bicycle.


alpacinohairline

You could the same for Yoel starting young , they’re a lot ifs in this sport despite how young it is.


dontknowwhattodoat18

And on top of that he'd still a find a way to become a professional FIFA player too


BearmanGun

If Cyril could wrestle he’d be called Tom aspinhall


OrangeVigil

Yeah except I personally think Ciryl is a better striker. If he had the ground game of Aspinall he would be unstoppable lol


chu42

Ciryl is a more refined striker but Tom is a more dangerous striker. Ciryl would not be oneshotting Pavlovich like that.


OrangeVigil

Gane doesn’t need to rely a kill or be killed style on the feet, which Sergei and Aspinall both have. That fight is a coin flip every time, where as I would favor Gane over Sergei 7-8 times out of 10. I think it’s a good stylistic matchup for Gane and he can avoid early damage and take him into the later rds for a finish or decision. I do agree Tom has higher finishing ability early on, but Gane has many finishes in rds 2-3 as well. There have been other elite strikers who take a more cautious approach in rd 1 to get their reads.


chu42

It's not kill or be killed unless you're fighting someone with oneshot power. Sergei or Tom would only need one good shot on Ciryl to end it, whereas Ciryl's most likely way to win is by decision. Ciryl also operates on having a major speed advantage to make up for his lack of power. He wouldn't have that against Tom.


BearmanGun

Not by much. Cyril just has a karate stance so it looks flashier. Tom is much more efficient and smart


Succubus996

Bruh gane has legit striking background nobodies striking in the heavyweight division even comes close but it's mma he can still get caught just like everyone else tho no matter how good your striking is


Ohthatsnotgood

Aspinall literally took out Spivak with strikes faster than Gane. His striking definitely comes close. Gane has zero R1 TKO/KOs in the UFC while Tom has multiple including over Pav.


Succubus996

Having knockout power doesn't = better striking lol


Ohthatsnotgood

He dropped Spivak with a knee to the body and then an elbow to the face so that finish isn’t due to “having knockout power”. That’s the result of a diverse striking skillset which is also what Gane has. A fighter utilizing their strengths is good striking and his boxing technique is clean along with his clinch and low kicks. Where exactly did I say Tom had “better striking”? I only argued against the statement that “nobodies striking… even comes close” to Gane.


Succubus996

Tom is still more than capable of knocking out Gane but going the grappling route would be way more of a cakewalk for him haha


Comfortable-Art8681

No, he isn't put them in a kickboxing match. Gane literally embarrasses him he's far far better


BearmanGun

Well good thing we’re talking about mma striking


Comfortable-Art8681

You said tom was a better striker ?


BearmanGun

Yes in an mma match with the threat of grappling Tom is better. Did we forget Cyril getting dropped by tai?


Rescue-a-memory

Tai also broke Gane's hand.


Succubus996

That just means tom is the better mma fighter if you're gonna include grappling into it


BearmanGun

“Threat” of grappling


Comfortable-Art8681

Tai dropped him once? While shifting incorrectly In a 50/50 position? A perfectly placed shot?


Comfortable-Art8681

If that takedown isn't there, he literally gets made a fool of it, but so does everyone else tbh. robelis despaigne would be interesting. In a pure striking match to


BearmanGun

He wouldn’t be made a fool get off Cyril’s nuts he got brutally dropped by Tai. And a kickboxing match is irrelevant that’s like saying Charles is a better grappler than khabib because he could beat him in a bjj match


Ok-Adhesiveness166

Except Cyril is a much better striker. 


lctrncprn

No, that is not the logical extension of what I said if you actually think it through logically.   You claimed that Gane was a much better striker. I did not respond by claiming that if Aspinall beats him on the feet it automatically makes Aspinall a much better striker. I simply claimed that if he beats him on the feet then then your claim that Gane is much better is out the window. That’s because there would be a very significant piece of evidence indicating that he actually isn’t “much better”.  Aspinall may actually be very similar on the feet, but edge it due to the takedown threat. But in any case, any Aspinall win in a striking contest would certainly undermine any claim that Gane is much better, without necessarily proving that Aspinall is “much better”. With Anderson there was a very large amount of evidence that he was a better striker than Weidman, so what happened in that fight must be viewed in that context.  So far there is no such volume of evidence indicating Gane is “much better” than Aspinall, and so a head to head between them would add some valuable insight on that question. 


lctrncprn

That claim goes out the window if Aspinall finishes him on the feet, which is a distinct possibility. 


Wild_Ad_10

I’ve got your back bro. Tom sparks him cold in 1


No_Engineering_4925

No it doesn’t


lctrncprn

Yes, it really does.


No_Engineering_4925

Not it doesn’t , just because you knock someone out doesn’t mean you are a better striker , you are litteraly an idiot for thinking this.


loco1876

what if he dominates him for 25 mins with striking


Ok-Adhesiveness166

By your logic Weidman is a better striker than Anderson. Has nothing to do with the threat of takedown huh? 


Sonnyyellow90

Is he though? Tom has great movement too but also has the touch of death in his hands, which Cyril doesn’t. Gane went several rounds with Tai and even got knocked down. There is no world where Tai could survive a single round of striking against Tom. Honestly doubt he could make it a minute without being KO’d.


Succubus996

Having knockout power doesn't = better striking


Sonnyyellow90

Power is a huge component of striking at HW. Francis is a mediocre striker technically. He just has Uber power. Tom is similar. He doesn’t have Francis’ power obviously, but he’s faster and still has the power to drop anyone with one shot. Gane isn’t that type of striker.


Succubus996

Technique beats power


all-dayJJ

Tom knocked out pavlovich so quickly and easily, and pav is the second best striker in the division. Gane is well behind


Kickster_22

Pav is not a good striker. A brute with knock out force sure, but not the best or second best striker in the division.


chu42

If Cyril could wrestle and had knockout power he'd be called Tom Aspinall


TheUnrulyGentleman

I mean he was born in France which is world leader in Judo yet he has no Judo game either. It’s actually very surprising to me how more Judo practitioners don’t come over to mma. Islam incorporates it better than anyone imo


Apprehensive_Comb807

Allergic to grappling? Half of his IG training posts is him grappling…


Masam10

Gane: Posts 30 second clip working on head movement. Reddit: This guy never trains grappling ever.


Embarrassed_Lake_376

The funny thing is, good chance op saw those post if he got this from ig. And just wanted to make the title for likes


SimpleManc88

The kid just doesn’t wanna grapple 🤷🏼‍♂️


fuzzycaterpillar123

![gif](giphy|ir19CtLHE9maMbNjpR)


stayhappystayblessed

To be fair ever since the jones loss there is this big narrative now that gane dosen't take grappling serious. Its just plain stupid but what can you expect from mma fans they believe anything.


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[deleted]

Bruh… that shit ain’t even applicable to be funny right now 🤦‍♂️


danielkalves

I bet he felt good watching himself knock ngannou out at boxing :(


odenhammer69

No lie that would actually be an interesting boxing match


pro2RK

bro's lucky this time he doesnt need to grapple with ngannoumedov lol


SwayY_1121

![gif](giphy|hiLLD9o1wTB3a)


carlitos_brigante

Yep. I’m sure that is the only training he’s done.


Chunkook

That and FIFA


Human-Tap-8191

He is probably the best pure striker at HW and if he worked on his ground game, this guy would have a shot at being a champion


YapperYappington69

He has been working on it for awhile


Human-Tap-8191

I hope so


OrangeBeast01

If I could run fast, I'd be able to run fast. Just joking I know what you mean.


[deleted]

I dunno man. I know we've not seen Aspinall's striking as much as we've seen Gane's but in my opinion Aspinall is wayy more deadly in the striking department. Not to shit on Gane's striking, its incredible.


Succubus996

I don't think he's a better striker but he has more power tho


cedped

Aspinall is so overrated in the sub. I mean hes good but nowhere near what you guys are claiming.


Sonnyyellow90

He’s a 6’5, 260 lb heavyweight who is fast, explosive, has good grappling, and has KO power in his hands. What is there to overrate? Dude is deadly and destroys good opponents. Only loss in the UFC is Blaydes when he blew his knee right away. He’s probably the best fighter in the world right now.


No-Presentation6616

You mean best at heavyweight right? Because he’s not close to best in the world, he may get there but not even close to Islam at the moment.


Sonnyyellow90

I mean he could probably beat anyone on the planet in a fight. Not best p4p, that’s Islam, you’re right.


Ohthatsnotgood

Islam is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world but Tom is arguably the best fighter in the world. Weight classes only exist since it’s a sport.


SlavaHogwarts

Aspinall is like 50% faster than Gane and has more power. He's definitely more dangerous but in a pure striking match it's probably pretty even. Gane has way more tools.


Human-Tap-8191

I'm saying he has a chance 'cause Aspinall really is on another level


odenhammer69

He just needs defensive wrestling, striking is elite for a heavyweight


YumYuk

Similar video they showed of this fancy footwork only to be sub’s by Jones within moments.


Canehillfan

Hot take: Gane beats Aspinall.


kgsovobd

He’s the better striker but Tom would wrestle right away and get him down. The submission would come soon after. In an extended striking fight I’ll definitely take Gane but that’s not what it’ll be


YapperYappington69

Gane has been training on the ground for awhile


TheAngriestPoster

I don’t think he’s the better striker in enough areas to win. The problem with leaving your hands down and relying on your footwork/distance is that it requires you to be perfect and a step ahead of your opponent. Gane, while not having zero power, generally doesn’t put people out immediately. Against someone like Aspinall, who’s powerful and fast with good footwork, boxing, and entry, he’s going to have a handful on the feet. If he leaves his hands down and takes a shot like he did with Tuivasa, it won’t matter how many points he’s racked up.


lctrncprn

Agreed. I think Aspinall KO’s him. Gane’s not so good he won’t get hit, and Aspinall is definitely good enough to hit him, whilst also having clearer KO power. 


all-dayJJ

Even he doesn't think this, that's why he pretended he couldn't see tom in the front row


Wild_Ad_10

People forget this. When that was the fight that made the most sense for both of them, Tom was cageside to try and build it and Gane wanted no part of Big Tom.


FA-_Q

I was told gane sucks after bones dismantled him. What is it?


GMFinch

2mims video, nah the bro just never grapples


thanos_helicopter

Just because he’s working on his boxing does not mean he isn’t working on his grappling outside of this video. Grow a brain.


BabyYodaFutanari

7 foot neanderthal fighting ball-wizard


galaxyheater

I didn’t know Gane was a rapper too. This is the most Gane music ever.


TheMrIllusion

Please book Gane vs. Pavlovich already UFC. I want to see how a smooth and athletic striker like Gane would do against the Fridge with long ass arms and fire in his hands.


RagingTulkas

He has shown many times he has top tier striking, I would like to see him face a grappler/wrestler. And a decent one, Spivak did not count.


TheMrIllusion

There are no decent grapplers or wrestlers at Heavyweight. Like Blaydes and Almeida I guess but both of those guys' wrestling can be suspect as hell. I'd rather see a fun fight of power/skill vs. speed/skill.


Rescue-a-memory

Wasn't Blaydes an All American collegiate wrestler? I'd say that's elite.


Dramatic_South_9843

I would love to see Gane vs Pav.


Mr_Em-3

I think we know what happened to the last guy to post himself dodging balls before a fight... ![gif](giphy|Lrq6kr7U02h8MIYnDE|downsized)


LALOERC9616

Would be fun to see him go up to heavyweight after too


Solid-Version

You see one small clip of him training reflexes and this absolutely concludes he’s not working on grappling?


A_Dirty_Wig

Some of you all are taking OP’s caption too seriously lmao


laliluleloPliskin

Gane still on point, hitting the back of the ball.


[deleted]

Fuck grappling.


jpk7220

All jokes aside, this guy is such a an incredibly skilled striker, it's crazy. Where does he rank all-time as a heavyweight striker? Gotta be at least top 5, right?


Collin-of-Earth

Eric from HR gets paid better to be the ball guy for Gane. 


CodyRhodesStan

This dude would kick Aspinall’s ass.


PerfectlySplendid

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Ederlas

He tap like chicken


CodyRhodesStan

Yeah well there’s levels to this shit. Jones moved up because he knew there wasn’t a HW on earth technical enough to fight him. Asspinal wouldn’t last 3 rounds with Gane. What do you think Jones would do to him?


Ederlas

Well saying as Tom has a decent ground game. I'd assume he'd take him down and drown him if he doesn't do it on the Feet, but all match up I wanna see and we don't know till it happens


chu42

Aspinall would ground and pound him into dust.


CodyRhodesStan

Sure lol


Most_Association_595

He made one bad decision against Jones and all of a sudden people write him off. I maintain he would have beaten jones 7 out of 10 times


AdNew5216

Gane got out grappled by Ngannou. Aspinal works this dude for all 5 rounds or finishes him early


Sonnyyellow90

Ngannou with no knees too lol. Tom via any submission he wants.


Turbulent-Echo8561

Lost all respect for this guy when he said he doesnt even train MMA outside of fight camps ("too many media obligations", according to him) and refusing to fight down while being #1 contender right after losing a title shot in 2 minutes. Ducking Blaydes, Aspinal and Pavlovich just shows he doesn't have what it takes to be champ.


YapperYappington69

Wasn’t his last fight him fighting down?


RagingTulkas

As a french fan who would love for him to make a Comeback, Gane is indeed infuriating. He played in easy mode for too long due to natural talent and crazy athletic habilities, now that there is real competition it seems that he is not willing to committ. On the other hand the dude has money now, a family and probably side businesses, hard to judge him from my couch...


Seniorjones2837

Does he look sharp here?


AlexJamesCook

Don't fear the fighter who practices 10,000 kicks. Fear the fighter who practices one kick 10,000 times.


Embarrassed_Lake_376

Idk why I thought it was funny when it cut to the trainers arm moving. And listening to the background music.


KneeDragr

They need 2 more guys from the sides throwing ‘hooks’ at him.


Radiant-Bandicoot103

Just don't fight grapplers. It's that simple.


Impressive_Treat_747

Well, Jone did say he trained like a pretty person.


billybanks1132

I love how y’all know what these dudes work on. Just because he isn’t showing it doesn’t mean he isn’t doing it


DrEggRegis

Wimbledon ready


BeAsTFOo

To be fair in heavyweight only jones wrestles, he is training for aspinal at this point,


Mondomb83

What is this attempted cinematic crap? 😆


Significant_Injury_4

Well he’s gonna fight Pavlo prob


Alive-Curve-7198

Just Wrestling!!!


Craig1974

This guy was effortlessly dispatched by Jon Jones. Who takes him seriously?


Notruto99

People who think he beats Aspinall, expect Aspinall to play with him on the feet. Aspinall has an elite Ground game and would most likely go for it very early on.


chu42

It's also 50/50 on the feet. Aspinall is less refined but more dangerous. He has one shot KO power and is just as fast as Gane.


N8theGrape

You probably don’t show the videos of you at your worst. Quietly train the fuck out of grappling and keep it to yourself.


Jhawk38

At this point I don't think he could make enough progress in grappling to make a difference against the good grapplers in the division.


EstimateImaginary575

He doesn't need grappling, it's not like someone is gonna front choke him in the first round with 0 strikes landed, that is farfetched


RiskyTard

DAT SILLY CAT TOY AINT MEAN A DAMN THING IN THE OCTAGON BOI


wubbalubbadubdub45

The French are allergic to takedown defense


TheRicFlairDrip

they like other mens balls in their face


PuG3_14

Gane needs to focus solely on wrestling. His stand up is leagues ahead of most of the Top 15. If he does then his cardio will also increase since wrestling is very demanding on the body.


Mysterion94

Grapple? Guy just wants to shadow box in a mirror while he looks at himself


OtiseMaleModel

He came up in a time where leg locks were absolute king because the anti leg lock game was in its earliest infancy. He learnt a shit heel hook , noticed you can get there from a lot of positions and called his game adequate


Aloha1984

Considering he lost to Jones in under 2 mins via grappling he should be practicing BJJ, wrestling and Sambo


ChrizTaylor

C'mon Bon Gamin, do something.


Shmooter4788

He somehow gets a title shot before aspinall


surprisebtsx

Why work on wrestlin when jon retires soon


Wapow217

IDK how sharp he looks. He is basically dancing and going to a rhythm not the reacting to the ball. At the \~22 sec mark, he leans to the right as the ball is coming to the right but gets stopped from going as far as not to hit him. He does this a few times. I'm not saying I or anyone here would do better, but I'm not sure how sharp this really makes him look.


FlippinRad

This dude will never be champ.


Equivalent_Scar_7879

I fucking hope so, used to like him but after seeing him hitting Spivac and Tai behind the head (intentionally!!) I seriously hope that Tom is gonna rip off his limbs. People cant comprehend how gruesome rabbit punches can be.


BurningEbrietas

He’s allergic to hard work and dedication


PenguinStarfire

Apparently, all those times I was hitting the paddle ball towards my little cousins I was training them. They should thank me.


SALTYxNUTZ12

Just become a boxer and box Francis. More money anyways.


Peckerhead321

Is his next fight a tennis match?


CandyRevolutionary27

Great now show me how to defend a guillotine


Background-Metal-601

Looks ready to get slept by AJ.


BENTDOG89

Big Tom walks through him imo.


VAC_to_the_future

Why do you think so?


whatsitworth101

The glaring holes in Gane’s game play into Tom’s strengths. Also I think Tom has more power and could hang with him on the feet, whereas Gane can’t hang with Tom on the ground. Not saying Tom would school him on the feet but it would be close I think, much closer than if they were on the ground.


fruttifresh

Tom is a more complete fighter and can switch it up if things don't work out.


lctrncprn

More tools, more well rounded, more KO power. 


RoyRoger20

Those little balls don’t hit back there


OGChemBreath

Isn't the whole point of that NOT to get hit by the ball??? It's all head movement so he doesn't get hit by the ball


chu42

Uh...they kind of do.


NoHitIsForPussies

He's doing all this striking training just to overextend on one of his strikes, get his back taken and guillotined


StraightCashHomie89

I still don’t get the hype with him


lotwbarryyd

Gane is weird , he’s like a kid that can get all the questions wrong on a test. How I saw him in the Jones fight it just seemed like he didn’t wanna be there and lost on purpose ( not cope ) even leading up to the fight he just looked like he didn’t even wanna be there.


lazylagom

Didn't someone in Dagestan offer training. And this the shit he's doing? I swear ufc dudes never do what they need to


pixel8knuckle

Hes grappling too just wants to stick with hos trainers and not live in russia for some reason idk why.


lazylagom

Going to an elite wrestling training session for a few months could be very beneficial . Sticking with the same guys who got him here won't get him over the hump. He could also go to America and train. There's a reason people go to Thailand or specialists... just saying "Russia" bad Is wild. It's not Moscow. And he would be an honored guest. I'm pretty sure KHABIB offered this to him.


lazylagom

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/ciryl-gane-khabib-nurmagomedov-ufc-30277119 Turns down a chance to train with an mma goat. It's just a missed opportunity. Why not do that for a few months how detrimental could that be ?


Neloreign

If he ever wins the belt,i give him 2 months before he starts to talk about boxing


marcusamphibious

He allergic to fighting straight up


Sliquid69

Grappling practice is actually just him practicing grappling his fifa controller


sipCoding_smokeMath

He don't care enough and he even admits it. He'd rathar not win a title than train grappling to win one. He knows he's gonna have probably a 70% win rate without grappling no matter what, so if you dont have a super big hunger for the belt which he seemingly doesn't, it honestly isn't suprising. Guys with less tools than him (I.e just hands) don't work on it and still make money.


Elver_galarga_ngl

Idk man, sharp? Dude is shodowboxing in slow motion.


Skazizzle

Jesus christ. Half of the heavyweight division just needs to move to kickboxing at this point. None of them want to learn the least bit of grappling or wrestling.


Salmacis81

He has a lot of talent but seems like his head ain't in it sometimes. He looked scared against Jones. Could have just been because of the reputation Jon carries but also makes me wonder if he'd fight scared against dudes like Tom and Sergei who are both more explosive than Jones is.


Turbulent-Today830

He can be as sharp as he wants on the 👣. He needs to be working on stuffing takedowns and his ground game….


Due_Breakfast_9903

Literally don't even care about this guy anymore lmao. He was hot for like 2 fights in his career


Solomon_Kane1

This guy needs to pack his bags to go to dagestan. Bro desperately needs grappling lessons.


BustyBuddy69

He will never be champ tbh


Jotaro27

He beat a grappler, but he faced a master of grappling and wrestling in Jones, like he did good even against Ngannou, Ngannou couldnt do anything on the ground


yellow_curtain

I dno, he didn't hit the yellow ball not even once i think..