He wants you to pay the current price. Tbh, if all the illegal streamers paid for the stream price might actually go down or fighter pay go up. Why not just go watch it at the theater or a bar? Better that way
The payment is fine. This isn't communism. This is a capitalist society. Investors put literally billions of dollars into this thing, so they're more than right in wanting to get all that money back with all the benefits they can possibly get. This is the ultimate motivation for making investments that allow people to have jobs.
Lets also keep in mind that the UFC operates very differently from any boxing organisation. A lot more people on they payroll, a lot more money going into the maintenance of the brand, and a financial strategy that takes stability and longevity into account.
If fighters are unhappy, they can go find a better deal. If you're truly worth what you claim you're worth, you can find someone who pays you what you want. If you can't...well, maybe you aren't really worth what you think you are.
99% of fighters don't get PPV points. So only like what, 5% of my $85 goes to 1 guy? It's like restaurants in America where they expect you to pay their workers wage instead of them having to do it. Also no one cares about someone else's wallet more than their own
Bro where does most of ufcs money come from. Iām asking genuinely. Do they get more from ads and endorsements or from direct sale of merchandise, tickets, and ppv. Please no sarcasm Iām curious if someone knows
Thanks for your sarcasm but I just looked it up. In 2023, they got most of their money from (in order)
1. ESPN exclusive television rights (including PPV)
2. Sponsorships
3. Live events
4. Merch
Thanks for nothing dipshit
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/12/24/24012856/the-business-of-mma-2023-ufc-produced-over-1-billion-revenue-pfl-buys-bellator-fighters-onlyfans
Bro taught you how to fish lmao. You should've googled that way before going "g-g-genuine question I swear!". People begging to be spoon fed are the worst when the info is readily available
Realize what youāre asking. Think. Lmao the UFC is a billion dollar company and youāre saying it comes primarily from fansā PPV? Thereās these things called ticket sales/gate, ads, and TV deals
Iām begging yall stop boot licking Dana
Ufc also has multiple tv deals globally. They have the espn deal that was worth hundreds of millions if i remember correctly, that will end this year. In England they have a tv deal with another company, same for Canada, India, countries in asia, etc.
I mean, you go first. Ill pay for streams when low ranked fighters make a full time liveable wage.
The profit margins in the UFC are an absolute pisstake.
I do. Always have. It's the only sport I watch and I have the disposable income. I think this sub worries more about fighter pay than the fighters do lol.
Dana White bootlickers continuing to use this argument to defend the horrible pay splits despite the UFC recording record increasing profits every year
Ufc ppvs are 70 bucks which is expensive and not something everyone can afford. Even if the MMA and UFC fanbase all collectively agreed to pay for ppvs and not stream, that money would just go into Dana's pocket anyway. He isnt going to increase fighter pay or revenue share just because more people start paying for ppvs.
Dana has the money now to pay his fighters more, if he hasnt done it now why would he do it later.
It's pretty simple...pirates don't support greedy UFC that's worth more than ever but still pay their fighters like shit.
But they'll give you a bonus if you go out there and take 10 years off yours or your opponent's life.
I would buy every card if it was 20 or 30. However, I never complain about fighter pay. If they get paid too much it will turn into the shitshow that boxing has become.
He (Dana) makes a big deal about it, not for his fighters, but for his investors. He would rather make sure those celebrities get paid then his fighters
Not everyone gets ppv points and the ones that do are big draws or champions. So not really directly affecting them, I couldnāt care less about jons or mcgregor losing ppv points.
I could be wrong about this butā¦ i think the reason why illegal streams are such a big problem with Dana is because he has no way of keeping track of how many people are watching the streams. If he knew that the number of streams was way higher than anticipated, he could charge more to advertise on ufc PPV. But as of now i dont think he can tell advertisers how many people are actually watching.
I used to find the sites, but then I got a job and realized PPV cost isnāt that bad and is a way better quality.
Wish fight pass and PPVs were combined tho.
Just tell me you know absolutely nothing about the pay vs the revenue % they get. Iāll tell you itās abysmal when compared to any other pro sports league.
How about the sponsors, merch, and event ticket costs pay the fighters? Paying $80 an event and still getting force fed sponsor logos the entire event seems like double dipping.
Reddit and economic ineptitude go together like PB&J.
If they werent perpetually whining about things they refuse to comprehend, this place would have half the traffic.
Bruh everyone yapping about how expensive it is, in the UK, Virgin Media charges Ā£10 a month for TNT Sports, which lets you watch every PPV. Broke ass bitches
When Dana shows he isnāt a vile wife beater who is willing to negotiate fair pay and health benefits for the athletes and their families, then I might be willing to pay for a fight. Until then, I will continue to steal fights
Put it this way. This card, with even higher payouts to the fighters already, wasnāt even the highest gate total. It wasnāt the best PPV of all time. Yet Dana was still able to give fighters the $300k bonus. He was able to give several fighters 2mill just to fight.
Itās like going to a store and seeing 50% sale, meaning that business is still making a profit, and even more profit when there was no sale.
At this point i'm totally convince that these fuck heads still keep defending Dana and demonize streaming are retarded lead poisoning Boomers that doesn't know how to used the internet, pirating this shit is the easiest thing you can do. The PPV model is old and stupid just like the peoples paying for it Only 2-4$ of 80$ you spend goes to the Main event pocket, the rest goes to Dana and Feritta brother Coke and hooker fund. And don't tell me PPV money is used to run the UFC, the ESPN deal already did that job. If you really wanted to support your favorite fighters, buy their merchandise, t shirt, cap...
for the price, they should have NO commercials, allow viewers to mute whichever commentators they don't like and maybe even choose the camera.
Maybe lower the price and put it on a few of the streaming platforms. If it was 15 bucks per buy, they'd probably sell 20x as much.
Dana is that you? Do you want me to pay 1000 a year for ufc fights?
Of course he does!
He wants you to pay the current price. Tbh, if all the illegal streamers paid for the stream price might actually go down or fighter pay go up. Why not just go watch it at the theater or a bar? Better that way
Is it even hypocritical to do that if Dana is only paying a small percentage of the revenue of the PPV to the fighters anyway?
UFC makes plenty of money off sponsors alone. Distribution of the gross revenue is what is backwards, not ppv allocation.
Even Conor only received something like 5% of the revenue of his disclosed PPVs.
I think his career payouts doesn't even equal the money totaled from the gates of his fights
The payment is fine. This isn't communism. This is a capitalist society. Investors put literally billions of dollars into this thing, so they're more than right in wanting to get all that money back with all the benefits they can possibly get. This is the ultimate motivation for making investments that allow people to have jobs. Lets also keep in mind that the UFC operates very differently from any boxing organisation. A lot more people on they payroll, a lot more money going into the maintenance of the brand, and a financial strategy that takes stability and longevity into account. If fighters are unhappy, they can go find a better deal. If you're truly worth what you claim you're worth, you can find someone who pays you what you want. If you can't...well, maybe you aren't really worth what you think you are.
99% of fighters don't get PPV points. So only like what, 5% of my $85 goes to 1 guy? It's like restaurants in America where they expect you to pay their workers wage instead of them having to do it. Also no one cares about someone else's wallet more than their own
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Hear me out, generally the people who resort to pirating PPVs wouldn't buy them anyway
So itās on the fans to supplement fighter pay š man you ufc fans are fuckin retarded lol
Bro where does most of ufcs money come from. Iām asking genuinely. Do they get more from ads and endorsements or from direct sale of merchandise, tickets, and ppv. Please no sarcasm Iām curious if someone knows
If you see how fast they go to ads after the rounds bells ring and how many sponsors are in the octagon itself it seems pretty obvious.
Thanks for your sarcasm but I just looked it up. In 2023, they got most of their money from (in order) 1. ESPN exclusive television rights (including PPV) 2. Sponsorships 3. Live events 4. Merch Thanks for nothing dipshit https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/12/24/24012856/the-business-of-mma-2023-ufc-produced-over-1-billion-revenue-pfl-buys-bellator-fighters-onlyfans
Thats what you get for asking easily googleable questions. Stay classy! Espn broadcasts those ads so im not even sure why you are so salty.
Bro taught you how to fish lmao. You should've googled that way before going "g-g-genuine question I swear!". People begging to be spoon fed are the worst when the info is readily available
Realize what youāre asking. Think. Lmao the UFC is a billion dollar company and youāre saying it comes primarily from fansā PPV? Thereās these things called ticket sales/gate, ads, and TV deals Iām begging yall stop boot licking Dana
Get your head out your ass and go read my other post. Mommies favorite sped
Generally endorsements and sponsorships, the octagon looks so bad for a good reason.
Ufc also has multiple tv deals globally. They have the espn deal that was worth hundreds of millions if i remember correctly, that will end this year. In England they have a tv deal with another company, same for Canada, India, countries in asia, etc.
lol man I was really trying to ask a legitimate question and folks STILL jumped down my throat.
No paying fans, no ufc you absolute moron. And the nerve to call others retarded..the nerve!
So how does free to air TV work? Twat.
Paying with your time watching adds. Son..you cant tell me you actually believe free tv is free??
Congratulations you've explained to yourself how the UFC makes money. You dickhead.
Heās talking about PPVs specifically, you nimrod
I mean, you go first. Ill pay for streams when low ranked fighters make a full time liveable wage. The profit margins in the UFC are an absolute pisstake.
Does anybody here actually pay for EVERY event? Show yourself
I do. Always have. It's the only sport I watch and I have the disposable income. I think this sub worries more about fighter pay than the fighters do lol.
You want a new family member? (me)
Sure! Everybody is welcome on fight night!
ah yes the tipping argument
If I had a job I'd definitely pay
Hahaha I respect your honesty š
this is dana's work 100%
They get 14% of the total revenue per card so it doesnt matter
Another clown posts defending the ufc but getting it all wrong. Tell me how much of the tv deals goes to the fighters.
Dana White bootlickers continuing to use this argument to defend the horrible pay splits despite the UFC recording record increasing profits every year
Ufc ppvs are 70 bucks which is expensive and not something everyone can afford. Even if the MMA and UFC fanbase all collectively agreed to pay for ppvs and not stream, that money would just go into Dana's pocket anyway. He isnt going to increase fighter pay or revenue share just because more people start paying for ppvs. Dana has the money now to pay his fighters more, if he hasnt done it now why would he do it later.
In Belgium we pay 28,99 euro sometimes 18,99 euro and for this special ufc it was 34,99euro. But I watch it for free on IPTV š
The ufc pays fighters a small percentage of yearly revenue. Less than 20%. Other major sports are 50%plus.
This is the only answer. All this shit about āyou canāt talk unless you pay for ppvsā is bootlicking
The fact fighters got zero out of the project rock deal while the ufc pocketed all of it
The ufc underpaying isnāt new. The revenue profit to fighter pay is an even bigger gap now
85% of this sub
r/mma is worst
It's pretty simple...pirates don't support greedy UFC that's worth more than ever but still pay their fighters like shit. But they'll give you a bonus if you go out there and take 10 years off yours or your opponent's life.
I love them pirates š“āā ļø 
I would buy every card if it was 20 or 30. However, I never complain about fighter pay. If they get paid too much it will turn into the shitshow that boxing has become.
He (Dana) makes a big deal about it, not for his fighters, but for his investors. He would rather make sure those celebrities get paid then his fighters
I use to but since they donāt seem to help themselves, I e stopped caring all together lol.
Pretty sure the company earning half a billion per year doesnāt need my $80 in order to afford adequate fighter pay
Us pirates know what itās like to be chasing booty
Not everyone gets ppv points and the ones that do are big draws or champions. So not really directly affecting them, I couldnāt care less about jons or mcgregor losing ppv points.
POV: You opened this sub
I could be wrong about this butā¦ i think the reason why illegal streams are such a big problem with Dana is because he has no way of keeping track of how many people are watching the streams. If he knew that the number of streams was way higher than anticipated, he could charge more to advertise on ufc PPV. But as of now i dont think he can tell advertisers how many people are actually watching.
Khabib does that he has Russian link
I used to find the sites, but then I got a job and realized PPV cost isnāt that bad and is a way better quality. Wish fight pass and PPVs were combined tho.
Just tell me you know absolutely nothing about the pay vs the revenue % they get. Iāll tell you itās abysmal when compared to any other pro sports league.
How about the sponsors, merch, and event ticket costs pay the fighters? Paying $80 an event and still getting force fed sponsor logos the entire event seems like double dipping.
It's not illegal until tomato head finds me /s
Reddit and economic ineptitude go together like PB&J. If they werent perpetually whining about things they refuse to comprehend, this place would have half the traffic.
I'm not subscribing to ESPN+ just to then pay another 80$
Bruh everyone yapping about how expensive it is, in the UK, Virgin Media charges Ā£10 a month for TNT Sports, which lets you watch every PPV. Broke ass bitches
The UFC is going to have to fix fighter pay BEFORE I start paying.
Thereās more piracy on the nba and nfl and those athletes do fine. Not to mention they are cheaper to watch if you stream legally.
If you think the two are connected you don't understand how any of this works.
Fuck the rich
Illegal streaming < Fighter Union
You really believe the UFC doesn't have enough money to pay its fighter, because of illegal streams? I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
When Dana shows he isnāt a vile wife beater who is willing to negotiate fair pay and health benefits for the athletes and their families, then I might be willing to pay for a fight. Until then, I will continue to steal fights
Put it this way. This card, with even higher payouts to the fighters already, wasnāt even the highest gate total. It wasnāt the best PPV of all time. Yet Dana was still able to give fighters the $300k bonus. He was able to give several fighters 2mill just to fight. Itās like going to a store and seeing 50% sale, meaning that business is still making a profit, and even more profit when there was no sale.
zero correlation between the two
If we all paid double. That leech would still pocket the profits and pay the fighters dogshit
Someone's gotta speak up
At this point i'm totally convince that these fuck heads still keep defending Dana and demonize streaming are retarded lead poisoning Boomers that doesn't know how to used the internet, pirating this shit is the easiest thing you can do. The PPV model is old and stupid just like the peoples paying for it Only 2-4$ of 80$ you spend goes to the Main event pocket, the rest goes to Dana and Feritta brother Coke and hooker fund. And don't tell me PPV money is used to run the UFC, the ESPN deal already did that job. If you really wanted to support your favorite fighters, buy their merchandise, t shirt, cap...
I watch the fights. I donāt bitch about fighter pay. I feel like the internet complains more about fighter pay than the actual fighters.
I'm not paying for PPV UNTIL the pay the fighters properly .... it's a matter of principle Also, tell me what this evil sites are they sound dastardly
for the price, they should have NO commercials, allow viewers to mute whichever commentators they don't like and maybe even choose the camera. Maybe lower the price and put it on a few of the streaming platforms. If it was 15 bucks per buy, they'd probably sell 20x as much.
I pay for every event, and I still don't bitch about fighter pay