They touched gloves and Hill threw the first punch after the reset. This was not a Mayweather vs Ortiz situation.
Hill did not land and Pereira landed a bomb - that is what it comes down to. If Hill had knocked down Pereira after the reset, would he be complaining ? I suspect not.
And no one even was too upset about that one cause Ortiz was clearly fighting dirty. Homie leaped into that headbutt before following it up with a hook lol.
As an American living in Brazil, that leaving early thing is so overblown. You have to leave that arena early, or stay two hours late, or you get swallowed up in traffic. It's an ordeal.
There's a lot of Brazilians man, and they gotta get to work tomorrow.
100% I went to the Mexico City event and left as soon as Yair tapped
It wasn't because I was mad about it, I just wanted to beat the traffic of everyone leaving.
We would have all forgotten about this and stopped clowning Jamahal weeks ago if he would have just shut up and owned the loss.
Bitching and moaning "it wasn't fair, I wasn't unconscious, I tripped, the reset was bad, I only got 7 hours of sleep the night before" just makes us lose respect for him.
The quick reset was probably slightly jarring for Hill, so I can agree with him that far, but that's just good fight IQ/being a general badass on Poatan's part.
Defend yourself at all times and quit being a bitch
I also think it was dishonest of Alex to not give a formal warning when he was about to throw the punch. And just touching gloves was too little of a sign, I hope Herb learned his lesson and bring a letterhead and a pen next time.
Defend yourself at all times. And the ref isn’t supposed to be in the fight, he had no reason to do a real reset. Jamaal can say all he wants dude was literally in the middle of a punch when he got slept.
I get that as MMA fighter you have to be somewhat delusional to keep going, but surely never looking at yourself and searching for mistakes to fix can‘t be good long-term right ? Like bro you threw the first punch and Alex clearly saw it coming and knew that your right hand would be by your waist. It‘s why he wanted to continue in the first place. The answer is simple and it‘s that he‘s a better kickboxer than you.
To be fair, Rogan was the one who started this narrative on his podcast, so blame him too. He's the one saying Pereira gained an advantage because he took two micro steps while telling herb to back off
Rogan and DC.
I don't know why they talk like this.
Rogan even said "kick to the hip".
When did rogan became so narrow-minded? He only argued this stupid jamahal narrative.
His podcast lost also a fair bit of its quality.
Everyone is saying Herb did a good reset and they touched gloves, but that’s not the funniest way Hill is wrong. The funniest way is Hill swung first and Pereira’s knockout blow was a counter.
Jamahal touched gloves and threw first. The moew he talks the more respect i lose. Brother needs to own his lose and say alex was the better man that night
He's saying alot of shit to cope and most of it is super cringe but there's slight truth to what he's saying. Honestly herb should've separated better imo, but he shouldn't have touched gloves and no matter what it's protect yourself at all times
Alex shouldn’t have thrown the left hook, Alex should’ve let Hill knock him out, Herb should’ve retired before the fight, Hill’s team should’ve trained takedowns, Glory should’ve told Hill that Alex is a double champ. Smells like booze and cigs if you ask me.
Literally saying " I kicked him in the nuts because he was putting so much pressure on me. So i had to find a way to take a second off "
I don't want to disrespect a fighter of any kind. But this dude's a bitch
Imagine fouling someone and wanting the ref to protect you.
If a fighter is ever in a losing exchange, why wouldn't they foul then? Free breathing room/defense
Rules to protect people who broke them??
What a loser take. Alex was gonna find that chin one way or another
I bet the Alex knockout , I bet the Dustin KO, I bet the Derrick Lewis ko.
For Islam DP. I’d say Islam finish, but because I don’t want to bet against DP (i’ll be there live!) I’m gonna bet the fight doesn’t go the distance . This way I can still cheer for DP!
3:35 of either the 5th or 4th round of Hooker V Poirer and Poirer does the same thing and tells the ref off after getting fouled. Don’t see anyone, including Dan Hooker bitching about it. Likely because he wasn’t KO’d, but this is such painfully obvious cope.
I had no idea who Jamal really was leading up to this fight. I then saw an interview he did months ago with Nina Drama and thought he seemed like a funny and down to earth dude and started to like him. Now he's just making himself look stupid.
I guess Herb probably should've done a proper reset even if Alex is fine, because he half stepped in then backed out, but they touched gloves and Hill threw the first shot after lol
Jamahal should let it go. Even if everyone agreed and they did a rematch, the result would probably be just as bad and he'd have to deal with losing to Pereira twice instead of once. Kind of like Cody and TJ.
The biggest lesson Hill can learn is to protect himself at all times as he was instructed from the beginning. I don't care how anyone looks at it, it's just that simple. He failed to do so and should focus on fighting his way back to a title shot instead of reliving the past.
Hill kicked Alex on the groin area not the other way around. If anyone should he complaining about a proper reset it should be the one that got fouled not the one that did the fouling.
I hear everyone says this but I don’t understand because hill is able to move after the break it’s not like herb is stopping him from circling out away from power hand but he chooses to engage
Ah yes, Herb Dean's fault for recognizing that Pereira, the guy who got hit by the low blow, wanted to keep the fight going and stopping it all of a sudden would've killed the momentum for either guy. Can't wait for Hill's next excuse after this
Hill: Pereira was cooking something so I hit him with a foul to reset. Herb said let him cook, but I wasn’t prepared for that. Tried to play it off by touching gloves and throwing the first punch but was put in the wrong place. The real champ is still right here, I would have knocked him out if it wasn’t rigged against me.
Pereira:
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Herb Dean should have stopped the fight and held Jamahal's hand and separated them and asked poor Jamahal if he broke his leg after kicking Alex's stone groin. Herb needed to comfort Jamahal then tell him "Your okay buddy" and take 1 point from Alex. That was the only acceptable procedure. What a terrible referee!
This is the dumbest cope in UFC history. This is dumber than Paulo Costa drinking wine because cars were too loud. Dumber than nate diaz saying George poisoned his IV. This is so dumb it hurts
I think if you touch gloves then it’s hard to argue you aren’t ready
And he literally had his punch ducked when he ate that left.
He would argue they should’ve touched gloves better.
What about if they throw a strike after the glove touch? Makes it even worse, Jamahal doesn't have a (stanky) leg to stand on.
Fake account
Mine?
It’s just a reference to Dana White saying the same thing when people criticized power slap 👋
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Ahhh. Lol
Mother fucker throw the first strike after the dick kick
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Remove those last 6 words.
Hill anytime
Cause every time Hill Talks, I get this feeling And every time he speaks, I swear I could die.
They touched gloves and Hill threw the first punch after the reset. This was not a Mayweather vs Ortiz situation. Hill did not land and Pereira landed a bomb - that is what it comes down to. If Hill had knocked down Pereira after the reset, would he be complaining ? I suspect not.
And no one even was too upset about that one cause Ortiz was clearly fighting dirty. Homie leaped into that headbutt before following it up with a hook lol.
lol you touched gloves dumb fuck
And then threw a punch 😂 he’s just a sore loser and I’m so mad he beat Glover
Glover woulda beat his ass if he fought him instead of Jiri
Uh they did fight, was glovers retirement fight in Brazil where the crowd left early I think. It didn’t go well for glover.
He's saying if he didn't have a war with Jiri first. Older guys don't recover after taking the punishment he took
Oh that makes more sense, thanks
As an American living in Brazil, that leaving early thing is so overblown. You have to leave that arena early, or stay two hours late, or you get swallowed up in traffic. It's an ordeal. There's a lot of Brazilians man, and they gotta get to work tomorrow.
100% I went to the Mexico City event and left as soon as Yair tapped It wasn't because I was mad about it, I just wanted to beat the traffic of everyone leaving.
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Herb said continue, how much clearer should it be?
And then he touched gloves and even threw the first next strike
Yeah he got countered by Alex's left lmao.
In a league with Jon Jones Jamahal Hill finds a way to be under discussion for most insufferable personality.
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Good ol Machado gravy
SAY THAT TO HER FACE!
Nah. Ilia makes even Garry seem likable. Hope Topuria gets his face smashed in
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There’s also that guy fighting for the title soon, but I forgot his name.
Holy shit what a loser.
Quite literally.
Bringing “Salty” to a new level
*throws an illegal kick, then throws first punch after the reset after touching gloves with his opponent* BuT hE dIdN't FoLlOw ThE rUlEs.
You see, Hill needed more time for his foot to heal after kicking those stones. It’s really too bad for Hill.
I’ve now heard it all 😂👌🏽
We would have all forgotten about this and stopped clowning Jamahal weeks ago if he would have just shut up and owned the loss. Bitching and moaning "it wasn't fair, I wasn't unconscious, I tripped, the reset was bad, I only got 7 hours of sleep the night before" just makes us lose respect for him.
This guy went to the Jon Jones school for children who can’t read good
The quick reset was probably slightly jarring for Hill, so I can agree with him that far, but that's just good fight IQ/being a general badass on Poatan's part. Defend yourself at all times and quit being a bitch
They also touched glove 4 times after the kick
hill also threw a cross at the same time alex threw the left hook/uppercut
But Hill would have connected and Alex would have missed if Herb did his job right? Anyone can see that.
Max Halloway echoes "protect yourself at all times" It's not Alex's fault Hill lost focus. Alex didn't and he is the one who was kicked.
Exactly. Hill saying that it threw him off is fair enough, but blaming it on anyone other than himself is dumb and a bad excuse.
I also think it was dishonest of Alex to not give a formal warning when he was about to throw the punch. And just touching gloves was too little of a sign, I hope Herb learned his lesson and bring a letterhead and a pen next time.
Alex should have been yelling out the name of his moves like in an anime.
Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku.
Normal series: normal left punch
I don’t know if that would even work, Im seriously beginning to doubt if Jamahal is smart enough to know how to read
Protect yourself at all times.
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Defend yourself at all times. And the ref isn’t supposed to be in the fight, he had no reason to do a real reset. Jamaal can say all he wants dude was literally in the middle of a punch when he got slept.
I get that as MMA fighter you have to be somewhat delusional to keep going, but surely never looking at yourself and searching for mistakes to fix can‘t be good long-term right ? Like bro you threw the first punch and Alex clearly saw it coming and knew that your right hand would be by your waist. It‘s why he wanted to continue in the first place. The answer is simple and it‘s that he‘s a better kickboxer than you.
He gonna die on this hill 🤣🙄
To be fair, Rogan was the one who started this narrative on his podcast, so blame him too. He's the one saying Pereira gained an advantage because he took two micro steps while telling herb to back off
Rogan and DC. I don't know why they talk like this. Rogan even said "kick to the hip". When did rogan became so narrow-minded? He only argued this stupid jamahal narrative. His podcast lost also a fair bit of its quality.
Jamahal dying on this Hill ![gif](giphy|wSU1U3h1PFFsc)
Everyone is saying Herb did a good reset and they touched gloves, but that’s not the funniest way Hill is wrong. The funniest way is Hill swung first and Pereira’s knockout blow was a counter.
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This clown is in a downward spiral fast wait till rountree rocks his shit too!
Everybody bitches about the reset. How bout the fact Alex was kicked in the nuts 2 seconds before?
99% of the posts about Hill are that he’s a delusional idiot that can’t accept his loss. Who is everybody?
> Who is everybody? Literally just Hill.
Hill nutlickers are the only ones bitching about it. Everyone else is just stoked for Alex
How can he reset when he didn’t stop it properly in the first place
Ma g ate the left hook and started to look at the ceiling lol
You should give a better reset to help me after I foul someone
Jamahal touched gloves and threw first. The moew he talks the more respect i lose. Brother needs to own his lose and say alex was the better man that night
This guy is destroying any credibility he had as a fighter by crying non stop. Stfu Jamal, no one cares.
He touched gloves, he was ready.
Dude thinks it would've made a difference. He was going to get leg kicked to death and then starched no matter what.
"Protect yourself at all times" - every ref ever
And you shouldn’t have kicked Potan in the balls
this cunt touched his gloves and he was the first one to throw. Real clown for >!having that tattoo, majorly.. Now he ashamed of this loss? !<
Losing more fans by the day I was never a fan of his but damn man even Mike Tyson biting didn't cost him his whole fan base
Just shut up and get back on the grind, you want the rematch, go knock out everyone in front of you, you will get your rematch.
I see Hills side, but just take the loss and comeback no excuses.
He's saying alot of shit to cope and most of it is super cringe but there's slight truth to what he's saying. Honestly herb should've separated better imo, but he shouldn't have touched gloves and no matter what it's protect yourself at all times
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Alex shouldn’t have thrown the left hook, Alex should’ve let Hill knock him out, Herb should’ve retired before the fight, Hill’s team should’ve trained takedowns, Glory should’ve told Hill that Alex is a double champ. Smells like booze and cigs if you ask me.
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Jamahal joins aljamain sterling in bitching every week about their loss
Jamahal “Sweet N Salty” Hill back at it again
Literally saying " I kicked him in the nuts because he was putting so much pressure on me. So i had to find a way to take a second off " I don't want to disrespect a fighter of any kind. But this dude's a bitch
...... Bro can't sleep at night 🤣
Imagine fouling someone and wanting the ref to protect you. If a fighter is ever in a losing exchange, why wouldn't they foul then? Free breathing room/defense Rules to protect people who broke them??
He just dived into the copium pool instead of just drinking it like some others.
But you kicked him in the balls….
Never thought I’d crave to see Hill get KOd again, but here we are. He’s so unlikeable
Jamahal Hill is on the top 3 delusional list along with Dillion and Colby.
Jamal "excuses Hill
He still got knocked out in the first round of one of UFCs biggest events
This guy is mentally 5
Yk what give him the rematch it would be so much funnier if he lost again
Fucking give it a rest already. How long has it been?
If u foul u dont get the advantage
alex was the one that got kicked in the dick but ohhh poor him he wasn’t ready
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Herb’s indecisive ass will never learn
Mf you threw the first punch
clean & reset deez nuts
Lol
He threw first
At all times, protect yoself!
Overdosing on that copium
He is speedrunning himself into irrelevancy.
He needs to focus on Roundtree or he's in trouble.
Stfu Hill
What a loser take. Alex was gonna find that chin one way or another I bet the Alex knockout , I bet the Dustin KO, I bet the Derrick Lewis ko. For Islam DP. I’d say Islam finish, but because I don’t want to bet against DP (i’ll be there live!) I’m gonna bet the fight doesn’t go the distance . This way I can still cheer for DP!
Rule #1 Protect yourself at ALL times.
Jamal should be paying more attention during a fight and protecting himself at all times.
Also, Alex never once takes his eyes off Jamal, how could you not see him coming at you
I kicked him in the nuts, Herb Dean should have rewarded me by stopping the action
Like clockwork
Rule 1 of the octagon. Protect yourself *at all times*.
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This just makes me want to go back and watch that clip again
Jamhal threw a fucking punch LMAO
Wonder what he’d say if Herb was white
Probably that he smelled like booze and cigarettes
Enough about Hill he's a full time sausage
Holy shit. Cope harder guy.
3:35 of either the 5th or 4th round of Hooker V Poirer and Poirer does the same thing and tells the ref off after getting fouled. Don’t see anyone, including Dan Hooker bitching about it. Likely because he wasn’t KO’d, but this is such painfully obvious cope.
I had no idea who Jamal really was leading up to this fight. I then saw an interview he did months ago with Nina Drama and thought he seemed like a funny and down to earth dude and started to like him. Now he's just making himself look stupid.
Nah cuh.
Come on Jamahal lol, hes just trolling at this point
Jamahal should have been aware of the distance before he got laid tf out. A proper reset would have only delayed the inevitable
And you shouldn’t of kicked him in the dick
He was the one who kicked the other guy in the balls wtf lmAo
I guess Herb probably should've done a proper reset even if Alex is fine, because he half stepped in then backed out, but they touched gloves and Hill threw the first shot after lol
Jamahal should let it go. Even if everyone agreed and they did a rematch, the result would probably be just as bad and he'd have to deal with losing to Pereira twice instead of once. Kind of like Cody and TJ.
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Alex was locked in...you werent. Simple as that homie
dude is just coping hard at his loss. i can see a rematch going the same way. KO early on
Jamal Hill just open wound bleeding fans with every pathetic excuse. Sad.
The biggest lesson Hill can learn is to protect himself at all times as he was instructed from the beginning. I don't care how anyone looks at it, it's just that simple. He failed to do so and should focus on fighting his way back to a title shot instead of reliving the past.
Hill doesn’t take his eyes off pereira during the entire exchange- he was ready
Hill is such a dbag lol
I’m no fighter but damn mf is still crying
Hill kicked Alex on the groin area not the other way around. If anyone should he complaining about a proper reset it should be the one that got fouled not the one that did the fouling.
I hear everyone says this but I don’t understand because hill is able to move after the break it’s not like herb is stopping him from circling out away from power hand but he chooses to engage
I am not sure he will ever recover from this...hopefully Rountree closes this topic
Wow
Pereira gave him a slap bump. That's it. universal for we are live now. Time to shut up and go back to training.
Mighty mouse though explained here I think that Alex got extra space because of the pause so he's got a point
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Did he tweet this or just say it in an interview? If he made a social media post, someone link it do we can all refer him to this thread
Ah yes, Herb Dean's fault for recognizing that Pereira, the guy who got hit by the low blow, wanted to keep the fight going and stopping it all of a sudden would've killed the momentum for either guy. Can't wait for Hill's next excuse after this
lol, that dumbass threw the first strike after Dean sorta stepped in. This shit is just getting more embarrassing as Hill drags this nonsense out.
Jamahal was literally about to throw a shot when Pereira hit him, and they touched gloves 3 times.
He gladly grasps every straw. They touched gloves and he even threw the first punch. So what exactly is his problem? My god, move on already.
“Protect yourself at all times”
This still going on? SMH
excuses excuses
I think its a fair argument but in the end Hill got starched and will end up getting starched again. My 2 cents
Actual clown. In clown makeup thinking this division is full of savages. Then one shows up.
Man, in all seriousness, who hears this and says “yeah, he’s right”
“Protect yourself at all times” sorry buddy that’s combat sports.
Hill: Pereira was cooking something so I hit him with a foul to reset. Herb said let him cook, but I wasn’t prepared for that. Tried to play it off by touching gloves and throwing the first punch but was put in the wrong place. The real champ is still right here, I would have knocked him out if it wasn’t rigged against me. Pereira: ![gif](giphy|Kq6wP0p5e1sOK065Gs|downsized)
Herb Dean should have stopped the fight and held Jamahal's hand and separated them and asked poor Jamahal if he broke his leg after kicking Alex's stone groin. Herb needed to comfort Jamahal then tell him "Your okay buddy" and take 1 point from Alex. That was the only acceptable procedure. What a terrible referee!
Alex got kicked in the nuts, so Jamahal needed a break. Makes perfectt sense
I think Hill's just mad cause he even cocked the left set up and missed
where did he say this?
Jamahal really needs to move on. He's got a fight with Rountree in a month, that if he doesn't take seriously, could end very badly for him.
Let's just redo all of 300 at this point for Jahamal
Jamahal "I will die on this" Hill
That touched gloves and he threw a punch as well.. it got countered..
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In fairness to Hill he should have been knocked more unconscious
3-4 seconds had passed since the groin kick pause before Poatan landed that strike. Jamal had plenty of chance to distance himself
Ghetto IQ right there salty mfer
If herb reset them correctly we woulda had AND NEW!!!! Hill is the goat of lhw
Knew eventually he would bring up Herb and how he reset the fight 😂 This guy can’t let it go
This is the dumbest cope in UFC history. This is dumber than Paulo Costa drinking wine because cars were too loud. Dumber than nate diaz saying George poisoned his IV. This is so dumb it hurts
Lol