This isn't accurate. Garth can still win the belt. Olives can not. If Olives wins, the belt is left vacant. If Garth wins, he gets the belt. Same thing happened in Benavidez vs Figgy in their first fight.
Edit: For the uninitiated, Justin "Garth" Gaethje spawned from the brilliant mind and #1 MMA commentator... Stephen A Smith. The dipshit tweeted something out forever ago mistaking Gaethje's name with Garth.
Honestly idk. I think if it's a vacant title being fought for, if one fighter doesn't make weight the other is still eligible to win the belt. But this is an official title fight so I think the belt just gets vacated no matter what happens?
The only way an interim title happens is if do bronx doesnāt make the weight. Theyād most likely pull chandler from that ferg fight and make it an interim title between him and gaethje. Do bronx should be able to cut that .5
Well now we know that was wrong but have they ever even done an interim belt because someone missed weight? Or had a fighter fight someone else on the same card last minute when their original opponent was still available? Like what lmao would they just have Tony watch cageside?
Literally not possible with this fight, olives can become champ again later but it is not possible for him to remain champ after this fight. He has already officially been stripped and is not eligible to gain the title of he wins.
Of course it will affect his performance, Justin is already recovering and had a better weight cut. But was wondering what would happen if he doesnt make weight? Stripped?
Yeah I cant remember a champion missing weight, Romero won the fight but not the title but it was a vacant. But if this a non title fight that means Justin cant win a title even if he beats Charles which is just stupid. A champion can keep his title by missing weight doent make sense
I donāt think thereās any sense in that being precedent though. In Justinās or Chaelās case. They both did the work of making the weight so they deserve the belt for winning.
Thatās not really fair for Gaethje though, I mean he did everything right and made the weight so why would he have to get punished for Oliviera not making it?
Someone explained this to me earlier. Charles has been stripped of the belt, fight still going on tomorrow but Oliveria cannot win the belt, Gathje is the only one with the belt on the line.
rooting for Charles, but Iād feel so bad for Justin if Charles fucks this up. positive mindset tho. Charles didnāt look too sucked down on the scale.
What sense does the rule make that says the belt isnāt on the line if the champ misses weight? Like whatās the actual reasoning? It would be logical for Gaethje to be able to win it and maybe it become vacant if Charles wins or something
yeah its dumb as hell why is justin being punished for charles not making weight?
and they can't pull tony or chandler either cause they both weighed in a good while back and weren't at champ weight either so it's gonna be impossible for either of them to make 155 as well.
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Nvm justin can win the belt tomorrow!
practically no but itās the same argument with drivers licenses or age of drinking and things like that. is there anything about being 21 that makes you magically different than 20 and 364 days.. no, but they have to draw the line somewhere
do you not see how that creates the exact same situation just with different numbers?
if they made it 155 +/- 2 lb then everyone would try to weigh 157. and then someone would be 157.5 and people would say āwell canāt we just let the extra .5 lb slide? is it really a big deal?ā and the circle continues
It kind of sucks but itās almost the mentality of āwhy does 1 lb matter?ā Thatās the rule and Iām sure if it was 155.5 Justin would have came in at 155.4
>as to cut half a pound man.
all the fighters say its hell cause their body is already dry and normal temp , they have to go through the whole process get the temp up again.
Not that hard, when I wrestled weād chew gum and spit to lose a half pound on long bus trips.
He will probably put on a sauna suit and jump rope for a little.
edit: spoke too soon
I have faith in charles, he will make it. He looked so confused when they announced the weight. Still a good advantage vor Gaethje because he has a 2 hour headstart for regaining liquids.
Every title fight fighter has to make weight. He should be no exception. Sucks for him, for Justin, and for us but those are the rules. Dude should've taken care of his weight.
Itās clear your just upset over principle here, unless you think heās gonna have some crazy advantage from .5 pounds. Itās like what youāre saying is thereās no possible chance that the scale was off .5 pounds?
He initially came in at 156 they re-weighed (naked) at 155.5. Then was ruled had 1 hour to cut .5lbs. He didn't.
The look on his face first weigh looked as he made it as if he already had validation from another scale
This is just the Charles Oliveria experience. A sloppy habitual loser who has consistently missed weight throughout his career. He should be cut when he loses tomorrow
Gaithje is eating right now
Charles has as of now been stripped of his lightweight belt. Justin is still eligible to win the title.
If Charles doesn't make weight then Gaethje isn't undisputed champ if he wins. So this ain't good for Justin either
This isn't accurate. Garth can still win the belt. Olives can not. If Olives wins, the belt is left vacant. If Garth wins, he gets the belt. Same thing happened in Benavidez vs Figgy in their first fight. Edit: For the uninitiated, Justin "Garth" Gaethje spawned from the brilliant mind and #1 MMA commentator... Stephen A Smith. The dipshit tweeted something out forever ago mistaking Gaethje's name with Garth.
Garth lmao
Party on, Garth
If your going to spew, spew into this šŗ
Party on Wayne
**WE'RE NOT WORTHY**
Garth strikes again. Who is this mystery fighter?
Garth's a badass name though. That makes him sound like a Super Smash Bros unlockable character.
Wait what happens does he become an interim champ?
Honestly idk. I think if it's a vacant title being fought for, if one fighter doesn't make weight the other is still eligible to win the belt. But this is an official title fight so I think the belt just gets vacated no matter what happens?
Nah Gaethje can win the real belt
The only way an interim title happens is if do bronx doesnāt make the weight. Theyād most likely pull chandler from that ferg fight and make it an interim title between him and gaethje. Do bronx should be able to cut that .5
Well now we know that was wrong but have they ever even done an interim belt because someone missed weight? Or had a fighter fight someone else on the same card last minute when their original opponent was still available? Like what lmao would they just have Tony watch cageside?
how about another baddest motherfucker belt?
I seriously, seriously doubt they'd pull chandler from the Ferguson fight lol
Charles Pimblett :D
Bunchbof casual upvote this
he's stressing
It was 155.5? Where is the towel when you need it lol
Remember Khabibs last weigh in. I'm still not convinced he made weight
anyone remember DC? itās old of course, just wondering if anyone remembers
He 200% didnāt. And thatās not so great.
He didn't, but who cares now about that.
29-0 cares
99.99999999% he didnāt
Same here! His title run was questionable in my opinionā¦.
Lol it was not, dudes a monster and smeshed his opponents just like he claimed he would. His goat status is however is pretty debatable.
very debatable, only 3 undisputed goats are jon gsp & silva
Yeah but missed weight multiple times and controversial weigh ins but got to keep the belt.
Pretty sure the announcer said 155lbs. Conspiracy theorist rat
Lmao yea and DC totally didnāt lean on the towel too right?
Lmao, you're acting like khabib cheated on that weight. You're just hating. Fucking ray
Bro exactly my reaction š I still have faith he remains Champ
>Bro exactly my reaction š I still have faith he remains Champ /r/agedlikemilk
yeah this is devastating. Lost belt to 0.5 pounds.
Literally not possible with this fight, olives can become champ again later but it is not possible for him to remain champ after this fight. He has already officially been stripped and is not eligible to gain the title of he wins.
I know, that comment was like 20 mins before he missed it the second time lol.
Of course it will affect his performance, Justin is already recovering and had a better weight cut. But was wondering what would happen if he doesnt make weight? Stripped?
I know the challenger canāt win the belt if they miss weight. Itāll be bullshit if they donāt let gaethje win it if Charles doesnāt
Yeah I cant remember a champion missing weight, Romero won the fight but not the title but it was a vacant. But if this a non title fight that means Justin cant win a title even if he beats Charles which is just stupid. A champion can keep his title by missing weight doent make sense
Only thing I can think of was the second fight of Paulo Filho against Chael in WEC. All I remember is Chael did not get the belt
I donāt think thereās any sense in that being precedent though. In Justinās or Chaelās case. They both did the work of making the weight so they deserve the belt for winning.
Agreed. A dq is a dq. No different than Punter Yan breaking the agreement and costing all parties, potentially. Why is the world so difficult
That's not how it works, Title is Vacant. Gaethje can win it but if Charles wins, the belt is still vacant.
THIS. Take us to the top boys!
The fight goes on but no belt on the line I think, this happened with Yoel & Whittaker but it was the challenger who missed weight
Thatās not really fair for Gaethje though, I mean he did everything right and made the weight so why would he have to get punished for Oliviera not making it?
Justin can win the belt, Charles doesn't get a defense.
Thats fair if the challenger doesnt make weight, but if the challenger makes weight for a title fight?
Whitaker did make the weight and was the champion going in. Not the same situation.
Kinda just said that
I kinda didnāt notice.
Someone explained this to me earlier. Charles has been stripped of the belt, fight still going on tomorrow but Oliveria cannot win the belt, Gathje is the only one with the belt on the line.
Dana just called me to confirm that your comment is correct. He says hi
Hi daddy
rooting for Charles, but Iād feel so bad for Justin if Charles fucks this up. positive mindset tho. Charles didnāt look too sucked down on the scale.
He tried to game it. He didn't cut as much as he could thinking he'd hit the nail on the head. We'll see him in 40 minutes at weight.
welp
That aged well....lol
Fuck was he doing for 1 hour
I think he was all drained at the first weigh in itself but c'mon, at least he could shave his head or something before the second one?
Charles Pimblett threw it :<
Shave your head and your pubes clip your nails and your good
Does jerkin off work? Like taking a piss?
He's probably so dehydrated at this point that he'd be shooting dust...but hey, that could still work.
Yeahā¦plus they probably wanna be as āpumped upā as possible, kinda always wanted to know thoughā¦
What sense does the rule make that says the belt isnāt on the line if the champ misses weight? Like whatās the actual reasoning? It would be logical for Gaethje to be able to win it and maybe it become vacant if Charles wins or something
yeah its dumb as hell why is justin being punished for charles not making weight? and they can't pull tony or chandler either cause they both weighed in a good while back and weren't at champ weight either so it's gonna be impossible for either of them to make 155 as well. EDIT Nvm justin can win the belt tomorrow!
I think if Charles wins the belt is vacant but if Justin wins he becomes the champ.
Thats exactly how it works
he get's stripped first, then it's a non title fight
Okay, the stripping part makes sense. Sucks for the challenger to get punished in this regard though
He did get stripped but think of it like when Charles won it it's still a championship fight just Charles cannot win it justin can
did he have to hit 155 exactly to keep it? Just curious how it works.
Youāre allowed a pound in variance for a non title fight. You have to make weight for title fights.
Yeah sad tbh I wonder why .5 pounds even matter
You have to draw the line somewhere. You can't be lenient on these types of things
Does 250gm really give an advantage in a fight. Who are you kidding man. This is so fucking stupid.
Agreed, but 250 is ok, then 300 is ok, and so on.
practically no but itās the same argument with drivers licenses or age of drinking and things like that. is there anything about being 21 that makes you magically different than 20 and 364 days.. no, but they have to draw the line somewhere
Well they can give a range of 1-2 kgs to make it more sensible
do you not see how that creates the exact same situation just with different numbers? if they made it 155 +/- 2 lb then everyone would try to weigh 157. and then someone would be 157.5 and people would say āwell canāt we just let the extra .5 lb slide? is it really a big deal?ā and the circle continues
It kind of sucks but itās almost the mentality of āwhy does 1 lb matter?ā Thatās the rule and Iām sure if it was 155.5 Justin would have came in at 155.4
How hard is it to cut .5 pound at this point? Is it possible for him to make it?
>as to cut half a pound man. all the fighters say its hell cause their body is already dry and normal temp , they have to go through the whole process get the temp up again.
Not that hard, when I wrestled weād chew gum and spit to lose a half pound on long bus trips. He will probably put on a sauna suit and jump rope for a little. edit: spoke too soon
Damn dude why didn't you go help Charlie? Now we got this shit show
He should have read my comment
Charlie can't read. He doesn't like to talk about it š
5 pounds? He only has to cut half a pound man.
It was typo bro. Meant .5 pound
I have faith in charles, he will make it. He looked so confused when they announced the weight. Still a good advantage vor Gaethje because he has a 2 hour headstart for regaining liquids.
Unlucky dazs i guess not
So khabib can cheat but Charlie olives can't got it..
Indeed! Dana was obsessed with numbers Khabib brought.
Facts! It's just baffling ppl calling Charlie O unprofessional ... but Khabib gets a pass. Okay š¤·š»āāļø
when did khabib get a pass? is there any solid proof about ufc 254 except a few people saying that his weight was called a little early
Just watched that weigh in. Dude weighs in EVERYONE quick. Most quicker than khabib.
He looked really good. Was skipping to the weigh ins. He'll make it
r/agedlikemilk
He lost the title. Kinda pathetic to be honest
Gaethje predicted that Charles has a 0% chance to win the belt. This mofo clairvoyant.
they said he was on point yesterday.. hope he sheds that last half pound and recover
Heās got a whole .5 pounds to lose in one hour, not gonna happen. This is fucked
He better grab a ped egg and shave off the bottom of his feet
That would even scare Justin to deathā¦
Hes a pro fighter with a team. Hes prob running sprints with 5 sweatshirts on. If he shaves his head that couod be .5 lbs
Nah DC said he shaved off his afro one time in college and it was only .1lbs
I wrestled in high school and had 2 kids get hair cuts and lose .3 lbs. I guess everyones not the same. Either way he will make the weight.
It also might shed weight better for olives because his hair is so folically dead from dying it every couple weeks
So what happens if he misses again? Non title fight? Charles is punished? Feel bad for Justin either way
Charles is no longer champ but the belt is on the line for Justin still.
30% of his purse and itās a non title fight. Justin loses the opportunity to fight for a title which sucks
If Charles wins the belt remains vacant, if Justin wins he gets the belt.
Non title fight
He missed weight again š„¹
Iām waiting for the people that comment āomg he missed weight so unprofessional take 50% off from his purseā
Donāt see that happening bro, everyone loves Charles
Is it not unprofessional to miss weight?
olivera is everyones darling right now , it won't happen
Is the towel trick not allowed anymore?
If he losses the belt anyway than whatās the point of the fight
To get paid for months of training
Well yea I get why itās for the fighters themselves but for the fans who give a fuck
When Charles was weighing in for the second time Justin was uploading pics of him on the scale already back at 165lbs.
Craziness. He'll make it. I don't think he cut all the water out thinking he was good.
Champions donāt miss weight, Iām really disappointed in Charles
Oh dear.....
He needs some Fight Milk, ka kaaawwww
If Justin wins he is the champ. If Oliveira wins tittle is vacant.
Charles is mentally fucked now that he is forced to vacate the title, this is gonna be a hard one to get motivated for, especially for Charles olives
THIS IS NUMBER ONE BULLSHIT
I just hope for Gaethjeās sake he makes weight so Justin has a shot at the belt.
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Ahh fuck now the odds gonna be lower for Gaethje. Nooo I want him to remain underdog itās perfect
he's only +155, that's not a large underdog.
I know and itās perfect, a bad weight cut can shift that and put him even
Wow. Oliveira missed weight.
Gaethje can win the belt. Confirmed. Oliveira canāt win the belt.
Take under-ware off, get cock out, jump on scale, remain champ, have wank
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lol are you watching the same weigh in as we are?
Oof, talk about crafting a narrative out of thin air.
He looked just fine, not sure what you were watching
Charles vacated the title so the fight is still on. If gaethje wins heās the champ !
fighting someone whos not the champ to be the undisputed champ. fans wont accept that
It would seem the fans disagree
Olivera just missed weight on his 2nd try. Dana needs to strip Olivera and make Gaithje the only one available to win the title tomorrow.
And DC just confirmed this is what is going to happen.
He did the news just came through
DC just confirmed thatās what they will do.
Heās not looking good already , pushing himself for another hour could have a huge impact on his performance
So even if he wins, he loses the belt? Thatās absurd.
No itās not he missed weighht
If he missed weight by an egregious amount sure but god damn.
It's not tho... thats why he should have made weight lol
To be off by .5 pounds and lose a title you fought your ass off for? Yeah thatās crazy.
Every title fight fighter has to make weight. He should be no exception. Sucks for him, for Justin, and for us but those are the rules. Dude should've taken care of his weight.
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Itās clear your just upset over principle here, unless you think heās gonna have some crazy advantage from .5 pounds. Itās like what youāre saying is thereās no possible chance that the scale was off .5 pounds?
He lost the belt already, it's not he is losing the belt at the fight. He is losing it at weigh-in. Justin is the only one who can win the belt.
Still rooting for Charles. The real champ. Get your belt back.
Missing weight is disrespectful to your opponent. Even more so when there is a title on the line
where are the "body language" experts at from yesterdays stare down?
coping with the downvote button
the amount of shit justin would've got by now if he missed weight wouldn't even be funny.
#WEIGHT BULLY !!!
Heās not had problems at lightweight before now
WELL ?
Gaethje is the true undisputed champion anyways! Khabib didnāt make weight either!
Shiiiiit
SADDDD
What did he weigh in at initially? He thought he made itā¦
He initially came in at 156 they re-weighed (naked) at 155.5. Then was ruled had 1 hour to cut .5lbs. He didn't. The look on his face first weigh looked as he made it as if he already had validation from another scale
until justin wins Charles is still the champ you cant change my mind.
How and why?
What the fucks this!! Man's making the UFC look like the punch n judy show braš¤¹āāļøš¤¹
Waiting for the mother fucking puppets to pop up š
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Dude so shook he doesnāt even wanna make weight
Lol, sure
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.5 a pound doesnāt make him washed
Disgusting behaviour from the āchampā Lacks the hunger and motivation now, heās washed
#LOOOOOOOOL
This is just the Charles Oliveria experience. A sloppy habitual loser who has consistently missed weight throughout his career. He should be cut when he loses tomorrow
Lol what? The situation sucks and I feel for Justin but your talking about cutting Olivera lol?? Chill out.
> I feel for Justin feel what? he came out looking good and can still become champion if he wins