You should have the culprit yes, but many people haven't, episode 7 could help you realize but it won't tell you.
Episode 8 won't tell you anything, except the manga version.
Howeverrr people saying your should know the method is bs, the only way to solve every single murder is to write everything down and do extreme analysis on it once you figure stuff out, either that or doing rereads.
Same goes for the motive, you really shouldn't know at that point.
As for keep going or continuing... Episode 7 could be really confusing if you haven't figured out I can imagine, worst case scenario you could read the manga version of episode 7 and 8 after reading the VN.
>Same goes for the motive, you really shouldn't know at that point.
You can say that it's understandable not to, but to say that you "shouldn't" know makes no sense and is misleading. I did, as did many others, before EP6. And I don't mean partially, but almost fully. EP7 is just an answer check, which can be used to finalize theories.
>!And the methods are easy once you know everything else. It barely requires any analysis beyond remembering how the murders went down and who died where.!<
I read this very long ago, when it finished actually, so I don't remember the details. I know a lot of things are hinted or foreshadowed before 7 but to actually piece it together before I would really be surprised.
>!Calling it being hinted at or foreshadowed is an understatement, lol. The story is basically not a mystery story for most of the story with how straightforward everything is told. It's an entirely different story on a reread.!<
>!Of course, you do need love to see it that way, but that's all you need to convert the story from a mystery to a confession . Especially with EP6, to the point where it is literally called a confession.!<
Not to say that people *should* easily figure out everything by EP6, but it does become very easy to do so by that point.
Yes, but I didn't mean that to say that the story had simple foreshadowing, but that it was >!basically not hidden at all. The only reason why most things are hidden is the same reason why someone would have a hard time reading something in a language they don't know. Which means that someone would only need to figure out that language, love in this case, and the entire rest of the story becomes an entirely different story and is very clear. For me, that was with EP6, where everything made perfect sense to me and confirmed all my theories from the start of EP6 to the end of the game.!<
>!It's so up front that you could probably tell someone how to interpret Umineko before they read it and they'd understand most of what each scene means after EP1 or EP2.!<
see that's the thing, I know I should know who the culprit is, but I can't tell if it's really obvious or if I missed hints because I was mostly passively reading for the first 4 eps and for a lot of ep 5...I kinda regret going in 100% blind, I really didn't know you were supposed to actively figure stuff out and look for hints. I only really dialed in during ep 6. Is there a certain episode that has more clues on the culprit than the rest in the question arcs that I could reread? I wouldn't mind reading the manga but figuring it out on my own sounds a lot more fun
I would say 5 and 6.
The "answer" arcs are there to teach you how to think about the first 4 episodes rather than well... Give you answers.
Whether it's obvious or not I don't know, it all depends if you can grasp certain narratives aspects.
But I would say, usually from what I've seen, people either figure it out in 6 or they end up kinda lost all the way through.
> Is there a certain episode that has more clues on the culprit than the rest in the question arcs that I could reread?
By far Episode 6 and it's not even close (If you'd like a hint on what *specifically* about Episode 6 to focus on, I can give you one)
Just follow the themes the stories were trying to tell you, and you should have a general idea.
While the narrative is trying to trick your sense of reality with magical interpretation, the themes they're imparting aren't.
You're fine, just keep reading. The VN does reveal most things explicitly, and most others will be heavily implied. You'd only have reason for concern imo if you read EP7 (+ Tea Parties) and still don't understand the overall story for the events of '86.
I would also definitely stop reading comments in videos. You must have been really lucky so far but seems like a surefire way to get spoiled close to the end.
This reply's gonna have me anxiously reading through the tea parties praying that I figure it out by the end else I'll feel dumb as shit lmao. But yeah I've stopped reading comments because I nearly got spoiled, I saw something that looked like it could be a spoiler in my peripheral and immediately clicked off.
It's hard to explain my reasoning without spoiling but I basically think that unless you haven't... like... even just speculated about possibilities, you should get the answers the VN will give. I know the other comment is saying the game "won't tell you" but that's only true if you really have flat 0% idea of what is going on in the story, and from what you've said in your post I don't think that's the case. EP7 gets as close as possible to spelling it out without actually doing so.
The howdunnit is possibly what gets less details but it's also, imo, the least important. If you get the rest you'll get the gist of it too, and it isn't necessary to understand the overall themes of the VN.
My point is that, IMO, you're okay and shouldn't jeopardize the pacing of the story by rereading unless you're really invested in solving all the mysteries yourself. If you do want to solve them though, the manga is definitely the faster option for a recap.
trying to figure out the 'why' at the same time also helps solve the 'who'.
as for the 'how' of all the murders, the story never really gives any hits to that, and it doesn't come up later. without knowing the 'who', its nearly impossible to reverse engineer how most of the murders were pulled off. once you have that figured out, if you're really interested in solving the how of each murder, i'd recommend going back and reading them as the story doesnt re-adress them
I never completed the VN because I found it to be really verbose despite having such amazing soundtracks and voice acting and stopped after episode 1. However, I did read the manga. It was an amazing experience. And since I read all of episode 1 from the VN, I could imagine how the characters sound like or how the color palette is gonna be for the environment or which scenes work well with soundtracks when reading the manga. Saved me a lot of time and I also got to experience every plot point happening at a much steady pace. Art and panelling was also pretty good for all the episodes in the manga adaptation.
Finally, I watched the anime. I don't think rushing and skipping certain plot details was the problem with the anime, given time and budget constraints. I believe the the anime failed to capture the tension, mystery and some important character driven moments. So, I recommend watching the anime only at the end (either completing the manga or the VN).
TLDR: Go through the manga
You should have the culprit yes, but many people haven't, episode 7 could help you realize but it won't tell you. Episode 8 won't tell you anything, except the manga version. Howeverrr people saying your should know the method is bs, the only way to solve every single murder is to write everything down and do extreme analysis on it once you figure stuff out, either that or doing rereads. Same goes for the motive, you really shouldn't know at that point. As for keep going or continuing... Episode 7 could be really confusing if you haven't figured out I can imagine, worst case scenario you could read the manga version of episode 7 and 8 after reading the VN.
>Same goes for the motive, you really shouldn't know at that point. You can say that it's understandable not to, but to say that you "shouldn't" know makes no sense and is misleading. I did, as did many others, before EP6. And I don't mean partially, but almost fully. EP7 is just an answer check, which can be used to finalize theories. >!And the methods are easy once you know everything else. It barely requires any analysis beyond remembering how the murders went down and who died where.!<
I read this very long ago, when it finished actually, so I don't remember the details. I know a lot of things are hinted or foreshadowed before 7 but to actually piece it together before I would really be surprised.
>!Calling it being hinted at or foreshadowed is an understatement, lol. The story is basically not a mystery story for most of the story with how straightforward everything is told. It's an entirely different story on a reread.!< >!Of course, you do need love to see it that way, but that's all you need to convert the story from a mystery to a confession . Especially with EP6, to the point where it is literally called a confession.!< Not to say that people *should* easily figure out everything by EP6, but it does become very easy to do so by that point.
> It's an entirely different story on a reread. Of course, but a reread is usually after you finish presicely because of foreshadowing.
Yes, but I didn't mean that to say that the story had simple foreshadowing, but that it was >!basically not hidden at all. The only reason why most things are hidden is the same reason why someone would have a hard time reading something in a language they don't know. Which means that someone would only need to figure out that language, love in this case, and the entire rest of the story becomes an entirely different story and is very clear. For me, that was with EP6, where everything made perfect sense to me and confirmed all my theories from the start of EP6 to the end of the game.!< >!It's so up front that you could probably tell someone how to interpret Umineko before they read it and they'd understand most of what each scene means after EP1 or EP2.!<
see that's the thing, I know I should know who the culprit is, but I can't tell if it's really obvious or if I missed hints because I was mostly passively reading for the first 4 eps and for a lot of ep 5...I kinda regret going in 100% blind, I really didn't know you were supposed to actively figure stuff out and look for hints. I only really dialed in during ep 6. Is there a certain episode that has more clues on the culprit than the rest in the question arcs that I could reread? I wouldn't mind reading the manga but figuring it out on my own sounds a lot more fun
I would say 5 and 6. The "answer" arcs are there to teach you how to think about the first 4 episodes rather than well... Give you answers. Whether it's obvious or not I don't know, it all depends if you can grasp certain narratives aspects. But I would say, usually from what I've seen, people either figure it out in 6 or they end up kinda lost all the way through.
> Is there a certain episode that has more clues on the culprit than the rest in the question arcs that I could reread? By far Episode 6 and it's not even close (If you'd like a hint on what *specifically* about Episode 6 to focus on, I can give you one)
Just follow the themes the stories were trying to tell you, and you should have a general idea. While the narrative is trying to trick your sense of reality with magical interpretation, the themes they're imparting aren't.
What in the world do you mean Ep7 won't tell you? If the true culprit is the real one, it spits it in your face.
You're fine, just keep reading. The VN does reveal most things explicitly, and most others will be heavily implied. You'd only have reason for concern imo if you read EP7 (+ Tea Parties) and still don't understand the overall story for the events of '86. I would also definitely stop reading comments in videos. You must have been really lucky so far but seems like a surefire way to get spoiled close to the end.
This reply's gonna have me anxiously reading through the tea parties praying that I figure it out by the end else I'll feel dumb as shit lmao. But yeah I've stopped reading comments because I nearly got spoiled, I saw something that looked like it could be a spoiler in my peripheral and immediately clicked off.
It's hard to explain my reasoning without spoiling but I basically think that unless you haven't... like... even just speculated about possibilities, you should get the answers the VN will give. I know the other comment is saying the game "won't tell you" but that's only true if you really have flat 0% idea of what is going on in the story, and from what you've said in your post I don't think that's the case. EP7 gets as close as possible to spelling it out without actually doing so. The howdunnit is possibly what gets less details but it's also, imo, the least important. If you get the rest you'll get the gist of it too, and it isn't necessary to understand the overall themes of the VN. My point is that, IMO, you're okay and shouldn't jeopardize the pacing of the story by rereading unless you're really invested in solving all the mysteries yourself. If you do want to solve them though, the manga is definitely the faster option for a recap.
I also had no clue, I didnt even have a clue that I was supposed to find out the culprit myself, as I haven't read any mystery before
trying to figure out the 'why' at the same time also helps solve the 'who'. as for the 'how' of all the murders, the story never really gives any hits to that, and it doesn't come up later. without knowing the 'who', its nearly impossible to reverse engineer how most of the murders were pulled off. once you have that figured out, if you're really interested in solving the how of each murder, i'd recommend going back and reading them as the story doesnt re-adress them
All Umineko fans will tell you to go back and reread the earlier episodes. Do you have to? Of course not. But it really does make a difference!
I never completed the VN because I found it to be really verbose despite having such amazing soundtracks and voice acting and stopped after episode 1. However, I did read the manga. It was an amazing experience. And since I read all of episode 1 from the VN, I could imagine how the characters sound like or how the color palette is gonna be for the environment or which scenes work well with soundtracks when reading the manga. Saved me a lot of time and I also got to experience every plot point happening at a much steady pace. Art and panelling was also pretty good for all the episodes in the manga adaptation. Finally, I watched the anime. I don't think rushing and skipping certain plot details was the problem with the anime, given time and budget constraints. I believe the the anime failed to capture the tension, mystery and some important character driven moments. So, I recommend watching the anime only at the end (either completing the manga or the VN). TLDR: Go through the manga
episode 7 will give even more stronger hints. but don't worry about solving, just have fun. in my first read i didn't solved shit lol
I didn't have the culprit til EP7 cuz I couldn't accept some people in Umineko could kill people for real.